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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: bringbackself on February 13, 2025, 07:00:15 AM
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Marquette and Indiana to play at United Center next year
WE HAVE GOT TO GET BACK TO OUR ANNUAL UC game. we cant let outsiders get on our turf!
This would be like us playing in Indy where the pacers play or wisconsin where the bucks play
CAN NOT HAPPEN
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I don’t think that’s how recruiting works any longer, jasn…
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I don’t think that’s how recruiting works any longer, jasn…
don't matter
That;s OUR HOME TURF
you defend it
if judge joe brown came on your turf would you shrug or defend
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jasn, shut the fuck up
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if judge joe brown came on your turf would you shrug or defend
He has a point...
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Keep posting, Jasn!
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Yeah jeez were only playing Duke at Madison Square Garden this year, what a joke of a program!
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Yeah jeez were only playing Duke at Madison Square Garden this year, what a joke of a program!
So next year we do play Bama at UC
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So next year we do play Bama at UC
You got that done fast !!!!
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You got that done fast !!!!
True! Way to go Jasn! Way to reclaim our turf!
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Everybody, shut the fuck up.
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Everybody, shut the fuck up.
Jasn bringing strong Illini takes between watching Missouri Valley Conference games
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Jasn bringing strong Illini takes between watching Missouri Valley Conference games
Time in the minor leagues really gives people some perspective
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Actually MVC games are very entertaining.
Give it a shot
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Actually MVC games are very entertaining.
Give it a shot
Bradley @ Drake Sunday. Bradley really needs this one.
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He has a point...
How many Division I schools are closer to the United Center than Champaign? Including Marquette...
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How many Division I schools are closer to the United Center than Champaign? Including Marquette...
That's irrelevant. We are talking Monroe Doctrine level stuff. Chicago was our sphere of influence unless you were really really good.....
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Bradley @ Drake Sunday. Bradley really needs this one.
Ill be watching it!!
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That's irrelevant. We are talking Monroe Doctrine level stuff. Chicago was our sphere of influence unless you were really really good.....
We had the UC rocking most years but lack of success and that awful UIC contract hurt us. Plus byu and new mexico st?
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Ill be watching it!!
Hey jasn, guess what? My son lives in Des Moines. He's going to the game!!!
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Hey jasn, guess what? My son lives in Des Moines. He's going to the game!!!
I bet tickets are reasonable too UNLIKE the 100+ mich st/Illini tickets
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I bet tickets are reasonable too UNLIKE the 100+ mich st/Illini tickets
Oh, probably. I'm guessing you can get one of those for like 15 bucks or something.
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Oh, probably. I'm guessing you can get one of those for like 15 bucks or something.
i went to a ISU game last year and then they offered free tickets for the next game
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People stopped going to UC to watch Illinois. Place was dead the last few times.
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People stopped going to UC to watch Illinois. Place was dead the last few times.
Well, we sucked and quit playing teams like Kansas and Duke and Arizona and started losing to UIC.
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I guess we're a women's basketball and football school now
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I guess we're a women's basketball and football school now
It is THE Golden Era.
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I think the Euro Portal may have an official end after this year if BU stays on board.
Man this team cannot seem to grasp the easiest of lessons, you have the advantage in rebounding, can score at will around the basket, are athletic and talented enough to get by players at will, and yet the Coach, doesn't seem to understand why the players do what they do once they have a B1G lead.
Whitman has gotten some good coaches across the board, but the allegiance can only go so far, there is NO reason this team is sitting where they are right now, and IF BU doesn't or cannot change the mindset for the rest of this year, WHITMAN must intervene.
We are at a critical point right now with dare I say Rodgers going, DGL, White will probably leave, we will lose our entire starting 5 sans Boswell for next year. We have 2 okay guards committed, we don't have anything after that, the NIL evens us out with a lot of other teams, so thats not looking good, and we cannot even hang a banner correctly for a kid that played all out each night for us.
Where did it all go wrong Whitman/Underwood??
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THIS RINGS TRUE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5h8j_eobQ
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THIS RINGS TRUE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_5h8j_eobQ
Disagree. Underwood's teams play as their defense goes and when the defense goes away, the offense goes away with it.
These guys are talking as if we need to fix the offense. Play better defense, because shooting comes and goes for most teams but defense shouldn't.
They mention Boswell with only 2 shots. We were in the bonus with how many minutes left ? Yet Boswell had no free shots in the game. None. Nada. Zero. He didn't drive and didn't get fouled to get to the line. He's 2nd on the team in free shot attempts and is at 80%.
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I think the Euro Portal may have an official end after this year if BU stays on board.
Man this team cannot seem to grasp the easiest of lessons, you have the advantage in rebounding, can score at will around the basket, are athletic and talented enough to get by players at will, and yet the Coach, doesn't seem to understand why the players do what they do once they have a B1G lead.
Whitman has gotten some good coaches across the board, but the allegiance can only go so far, there is NO reason this team is sitting where they are right now, and IF BU doesn't or cannot change the mindset for the rest of this year, WHITMAN must intervene.
We are at a critical point right now with dare I say Rodgers going, DGL, White will probably leave, we will lose our entire starting 5 sans Boswell for next year. We have 2 okay guards committed, we don't have anything after that, the NIL evens us out with a lot of other teams, so thats not looking good, and we cannot even hang a banner correctly for a kid that played all out each night for us.
Where did it all go wrong Whitman/Underwood??
Loyola game
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Loyola game
Don't get me started
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I think the Euro Portal may have an official end after this year if BU stays on board.
Why? You think Antigua is leaving?
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The sky is falling
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Why? You think Antigua is leaving?
Maybe Brad is leaving?
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Why? You think Antigua is leaving?
No, I just can't imagine any high profile athlete with NBA dreams coming to a school who can't seem to get most things right, hell the latest one saw a loyal athlete jersey go up in the rafters upside down...makes you want to have faith in the school and all personnel.
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supposedly the 04-05 team will be celebrated during the football season............................................
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supposedly the 04-05 team will be celebrated during the football season............................................
I will accept credit for this since I raised it with my ticket/I Fund fella.
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https://x.com/Sn1per_T/status/1891960199298126242?t=Y3cQPEC8tycF4mlotky8Hg&s=19
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Loyalty or not, Whitman has got to look at this season when it is over with a raised eyebrow?
Problem is the buyout will keep him here whether we like it of not. $25 million of so fired without cause?
Not sure what better options we may have, but seems EVERY team that plays us has a player getting a career high, we are floundering even though we have the talent to do better, we are embarrassing as a program (uni-retire) and as a team (MSG blowout), we seem to have no direction, and I would be shocked if the entire off season is not spent watching players jump ship.
DGL will he stay the course, 2 more years of solid play somewhere?
Rodgers has had a long year to listen/watch the warm up for next years possibilities?
KJ gone
Ivisic, probably gone NBA/another school/pair up with his brother somewhere?
White, who knows, doubtful he would start over again?
Boswell stays
Rez stays more than likely.
So next year we have "maybe' Boswell, DGL, Rez, Rodgers as our core, with who else...a couple of undersized freshman guards?
C'mon have to at least have that conversation Whitman right.....
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no
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Pretty crazy that 6 weeks ago Underwood was looking like a legit top 8 HC and now it’s not crazy to entertain the idea of replacing him. How quickly the worm turns. You only replace him if you’re willing to go all in on someone, but it’s gonna be back to square one next year. These kids aren’t coming back (the really good ones anyway).
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3 Scenario's I think Whitman may find himself in right now with Underwood:
A) Underwood is given a sit down and understands the next season is critical to long term success here (his).
B) Underwood is given ultimatum to staff change, starting with his own son (balks and looks for another place?)
C) Whitman is shopping for a replacement, buyout is extensive (upwards to 25 million?)
Solution if another pay raise comes into play? Underwood is given right to look elsewhere.
Will Wade buyout is $1 million in 2025. Wade would be a stud at ILLINOIS, he has recruited (Top 100 players-Top 5 National class at LSU) and well (yes there were investigations-but that $hi^ is legal now. LOL, he can coach, he is young 42, and he could make the ILLINI into a long term gig on a National Stage. He is also known for being a players coach, a fans coach, and a highly successful x-o guy.
Best thing about hiring Will Wade other than what is above....his full name is Frank Williams Wade. Let BU go, pay the buyout, annual complete roster turnover WILL never be a good thing, and quite frankly if anyone can do it, it is Underwood. For a program the level of ILLINOIS, this should not be the norm, even in todays age of $$$$. It is not sustainable, it is not wise, and it will never be productive to the level this fanbase wants.
HIRE WILL WADE Whitman. I firmly believe he has the record/age/recruiting chops and has WON at every stop he has been at. Chattanooga/VCU/LSU/McNeese State.
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Kind of wish spark was here just to rebuff the insanity of making a coaching change after winning BTT, 29 games, and an EE appearance last year all while our AA was facing bogus rape charges the last 2/3 of the season.
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The only way we should make a coaching change is if we can get Lorenzo Romar.
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What your missing here is also in connection with the BTT, 29 games, most wins in B1G in last 5 years (helped you there) and Elite Eight Appearance with a NBA draft pick.
THIS year we have potentially 3 NBA draft picks....we have a coach's son for all intent and purposes is an underqualified/overvalued assistant right now, a program that Underwood brought back to life for sure.
This program is one that is turning over at warp speed every year. It cannot be sustained and the only end result is going backwards, we will not exceed the Elite Eight with this kind of outlook/process/ability every year.
The 3 potential NBA picks ( I believe Riley is the least ready to be honest) are all Euro/foreign players, how many years we gonna pull that off?
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The only way we should make a coaching change is if we can get Lorenzo Romar.
Probably the smartest thing you have said today.
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Kind of wish spark was here just to rebuff the insanity of making a coaching change after winning BTT, 29 games, and an EE appearance last year all while our AA was facing bogus rape charges the last 2/3 of the season.
nah fuck that guy
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What your missing here is also in connection with the BTT, 29 games, most wins in B1G in last 5 years (helped you there) and Elite Eight Appearance with a NBA draft pick.
THIS year we have potentially 3 NBA draft picks....we have a coach's son for all intent and purposes is an underqualified/overvalued assistant right now, a program that Underwood brought back to life for sure.
This program is one that is turning over at warp speed every year. It cannot be sustained and the only end result is going backwards, we will not exceed the Elite Eight with this kind of outlook/process/ability every year.
The 3 potential NBA picks ( I believe Riley is the least ready to be honest) are all Euro/foreign players, how many years we gonna pull that off?
Blah blah blah shut up dude. jesus christ
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nah fuck that guy
Yep. It's this.
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Blah blah blah shut up dude. jesus christ
blah blah blah, showing that intellect again I see.
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Kind of wish spark was here.....
No, you do not.
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What your missing here is also in connection with the BTT, 29 games, most wins in B1G in last 5 years (helped you there) and Elite Eight Appearance with a NBA draft pick.
THIS year we have potentially 3 NBA draft picks....we have a coach's son for all intent and purposes is an underqualified/overvalued assistant right now, a program that Underwood brought back to life for sure.
This program is one that is turning over at warp speed every year. It cannot be sustained and the only end result is going backwards, we will not exceed the Elite Eight with this kind of outlook/process/ability every year.
The 3 potential NBA picks ( I believe Riley is the least ready to be honest) are all Euro/foreign players, how many years we gonna pull that off?
Instead of picking up 18-21 year old "freshmen," maybe they skew "older" in the portal next year?
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Instead of picking up 18-21 year old "freshmen," maybe they skew "older" in the portal next year?
I like that for sure, I have wanted the ILLINI to go the Zags route for years, when Lloyd was their lead recruited for them. Now AZ looks like the UN with their players and the Zags just dropped from the top 25. I just don't think it is sustainable for the ILLINI, I hope I am wrong.
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Instead of picking up 18-21 year old "freshmen," maybe they skew "older" in the portal next year?
This NIL/portal stuff has a bit of hit or miss to it. Try to keep a recruit and they might portal out due to NIL or playing time. Go with portal and you're looking at constant turnover and younger players not sticking around.
It's a work in progress for us.
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This NIL/portal stuff has a bit of hit or miss to it. Try to keep a recruit and they might portal out due to NIL or playing time. Go with portal and you're looking at constant turnover and younger players not sticking around.
It's a work in progress for us.
We need a good General Manager!
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We need a good General Manager!
Hey PAman, hear me out. How about Danny Hurley?!
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What your missing here is also in connection with the BTT, 29 games, most wins in B1G in last 5 years (helped you there) and Elite Eight Appearance with a NBA draft pick.
THIS year we have potentially 3 NBA draft picks....we have a coach's son for all intent and purposes is an underqualified/overvalued assistant right now, a program that Underwood brought back to life for sure.
This program is one that is turning over at warp speed every year. It cannot be sustained and the only end result is going backwards, we will not exceed the Elite Eight with this kind of outlook/process/ability every year.
The 3 potential NBA picks ( I believe Riley is the least ready to be honest) are all Euro/foreign players, how many years we gonna pull that off?
We got old and didn’t stay old.
Didn’t we redesign the offense last year around a Valley player and were #1 in offense rankings at tourney time?
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Hey PAman, hear me out. How about Danny Hurley?!
He can be coach/GM if UCONN fires him if they don't make The Tourney this year.
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He can be coach/GM if UCONN fires him if they don't make The Tourney this year.
That's what I'm sayin!!!
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That's what I'm sayin!!!
Are you related to that Ol' Dirty Bastard rapper fella by chance?
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We got old and didn’t stay old.
Didn’t we redesign the offense last year around a Valley player and were #1 in offense rankings at tourney time?
We did, but I am sure that wasn't the thought process prior to the first practice.
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We need a good General Manager!
Lol. I asked for defensive and offensive coordinators a few years back. We never got those.
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Are you related to that Ol' Dirty Bastard rapper fella by chance?
Yes
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The only way we should make a coaching change is if we can get Lorenzo Romar.
And if he was like our 5th option.
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And if he was like our 5th option.
After Reggie Theus?
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After Reggie Theus?
If they are going the unconventional route, maybe.
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They could send them a text. I'm sure they would actually be more than flattered.
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Yes
I think he meant Chance the Rapper who is a Dirty Ole Bastard. and YES would still be your answer.
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I think he meant Chance the Rapper who is a Dirty Ole Bastard. and YES would still be your answer.
Ok
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After Reggie Theus?
Mike Woodson is available. He did get a win over PU and he's not an angry white man.
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Mike Woodson is available. He did get a win over PU and he's not an angry white man.
Hmm. He's no Lorenzo Romar...
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Hmm. He's no Lorenzo Romar...
Yeah, he was like my 5th choice when we couldn’t get our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choices. He was at least producing NBA players (and recruiting 5 stars). I never strongly advocated for the guy. He was basically “break glass in case of emergency” guy. But I know everyone “remembers” it differently.
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Weber and Groce were not producing NBA players, but we stuck with them for 14 years.
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Yeah, he was like my 5th choice when we couldn’t get our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choices. He was at least producing NBA players. I never strongly advocated for the guy. He was basically “break glass in case of emergency” guy. But I know everyone “remembers” it differently.
He was way higher than your 5th choice lol. But whatever.
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Weber and Groce were not producing NBA players, but we stuck with them for 14 years.
Producing them? I mean, NBA players, for the most part are what they are before they get to college. Weber and Groce weren't recruiting them. I mean, Groce identified some, but then failed to get them, and even they were fringe. Remember the Illijah bullshit? Lol, that was hilarious.
These fucking guys don't make these guys into NBA players.
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He was way higher than your 5th choice lol. But whatever.
No he was not. I even specifically referred to him as no higher than a 4th or 5th option. And at that time we couldn’t attract quality candidates.
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No he was not. I even specifically referred to him as no higher than a 4th or 5th option. And at that time we couldn’t attract quality candidates.
Nah. You wanted the dude, lol.
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Producing them? I mean, NBA players, for the most part are what they are before they get to college. Weber and Groce weren't recruiting them. I mean, Groce identified some, but then failed to get them, and even they were fringe. Remember the Illijah bullshit? Lol, that was hilarious.
These fucking guys don't make these guys into NBA players.
At that time Romar was still a high end recruiter. I think he even had the #1 overall pick on his roster or just drafted. We couldn’t get any respectable candidates at that time. I felt worst case scenario we could at least see some NBA players come through Champaign. And they were mostly 1st rounders IIRC.
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Nah. You wanted the dude, lol.
Okerrrr.
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Tempo is making a case for Lorenzo Romar. He can't stop.
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God damn, man
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I remember my posts on Romar well. I specifically said he would be my 4th or 5th option if we struck out elsewhere. He was still a very good recruiter and we’d have at least a chance to stumble into a good team or two. No one besides the Webers and the Groce’s of the world wanted this job then.
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That was back when there was talk of us hiring Simeon’s coach…
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God damn, man
We hired John Groce, and he gave us the worst 5 year period most of us have seen in our lifetimes. Romar would not have been worse.
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At the time, Romar had a 5 Star recruit about every year (something we couldn’t land in Champaign) and he was in the tourney most years. We could have done worse. And did.
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Producing them? I mean, NBA players, for the most part are what they are before they get to college. Weber and Groce weren't recruiting them. I mean, Groce identified some, but then failed to get them, and even they were fringe. Remember the Illijah bullshit? Lol, that was hilarious.
These fucking guys don't make these guys into NBA players.
My point was Romar was recruiting at a good level and was regularly producing real NBA players. Not just 10 day contract guys from time to time. I thought if he can get 5 stars to Washington he should be able to do it in Champaign.