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Title: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 08:58:57 AM
I’m going out on a limb here. I going with the Bears to pull the big upset. They’ve played Detroit very well the last 3x and they have always owned Goff going back to his Rams years. Cold and windy. If the Bears can contain their run game they can pull off a shocker. Bears 23-20
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 09:01:28 AM
Wow!

Detroit's depleted defense could make things interesting.

Will Sweat play in 75% of the defensive plays?

Will the Bear get any 1st quarter or 1st half first downs or points?
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 09:11:35 AM
I’m gonna get wild and say they score 13 points in the 1st half. On the back of a pick 6 or fumble return…
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 01:39:32 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2024/12/20/rest-of-nfl-was-right-about-bears-offensive-line-which-is-their-most-glaring-deficiency

The Bears have used one first-round pick on the line and have spent the second-least salary-cap money in the league.


Among the linemen on the top 10 units, 26 were first- or second-round picks by their current team, and six were major trade or free-agent pickups, typically veterans who made at least one Pro Bowl.

The Bears, meanwhile, tried to be clever.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 21, 2024, 02:57:08 PM
Wow!

Detroit's depleted defense could make things interesting.

Will Sweat play in 75% of the defensive plays?

Will the Bear get any 1st quarter or 1st half first downs or points?

No and no
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 03:24:31 PM
The Bears spent a top 10 pick on an OL and they didn’t have any 1st rounders his first year. They drafted the top QB prospect in a decade with another pick and gave him a WR who might have been the first WR off the board in some years. They also had a recent 2nd round pick at OL and one of their bigger FA investments at RG. They drafted 4 OL in their first draft (despite starting the draft with only 5 picks, none 1sts). They got a pretty serviceable LT in his first draft in the 5th round.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 03:25:46 PM
There are other positions to fill other than just OL, especially when you blew up the previous roster because it sucked, was old, and overpaid.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 03:27:04 PM
The best Tackle prospect in the last draft was already gone, and he isn’t even playing LT on his team.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 03:28:28 PM
There are other positions to fill other than just OL, especially when you blew up the previous roster because it sucked, was old, and overpaid.

It appears that the roster still sucks and has overpaid players too.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 04:49:50 PM
It appears that the roster still sucks and has overpaid players too.

Yes, it’ll be the most coveted job because the roster sucks.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 04:54:59 PM
Yes, it’ll be the most coveted job because the roster sucks.
It appears to be attractive solely due to Williams. Both lines need enemas.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 05:11:52 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 05:34:18 PM
Lol

None of the articles on this subject have mentioned the "roster." They all mention "Williams.'
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 05:35:27 PM
He’s definitely the centerpiece. But there’s more to work with than just that.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 05:36:37 PM
He’s definitely the centerpiece. But there’s more to work with than just that.

That no one mentions because it isn't true. Even the secondary has fallen off the cliff since Brisker went down.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 05:39:11 PM
Blah blah blah
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 05:50:37 PM
Blah blah blah

Your standard retort when you lack facts to counter a factual argument, I see.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 05:56:32 PM
Blah blah blah.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 05:58:14 PM
Blah blah blah.

Yep.
Your standard retort when you lack facts to counter a factual argument, I see.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 06:01:51 PM
Blah blah blah. NOTHING I say will change your mind or even get consideration from you, so I might as well say blah blah blah.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 06:09:36 PM
Blah blah blah. NOTHING I say will change your mind or even get consideration from you, so I might as well say blah blah blah.

You could link to something that mentions the roster and not just Williams as being attractive for the head job.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 06:22:08 PM
All-Pro CB. Solid defensive nucleus. Rome Odunze. DJ Moore. City of Chicago. Founding franchise. New stadium on the horizon
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 21, 2024, 06:44:30 PM
Gonna get crazy here and predict a big Bears L
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 06:58:04 PM
New stadium on the horizon

Uh, like General Westmoreland in Vietnam, you can see the “light at the end of the tunnel"? LOL.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 06:58:57 PM
Let me know when DJ Moore agrees to run slant routes
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2024, 09:06:27 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2024, 10:29:46 PM
Lol

Another response indicating you have no substantive response since Lazy Rich DJ Moore refuses to run slant routes.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 08:59:06 AM
Another response indicating you have no substantive response since Lazy Rich DJ Moore refuses to run slant routes.

Another occasion where you talk out of your ass since your ridiculous take is difficult to prove false.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 09:03:49 AM
I guess he stopped when he got rich? I also think it’s impressive that PAMan knows the plays that Thomas Brown is calling and asking them to run. I was not aware that PAMan was in the WR room during meetings and on the sideline next to the HC.

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Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 09:07:26 AM
According to this, 11% of his routes were slant routes (at this time earlier in the season). A lot of screens and outs, which sounds about right.

(https://i.postimg.cc/FzSMNkPw/IMG-9912.png) (https://postimg.cc/0K8WCj1C)
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: No one in Mn on December 22, 2024, 10:18:30 AM
Another response indicating you have no substantive response since Lazy Rich DJ Moore refuses to run slant routes.
He doesn't call the plays.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 11:10:57 AM
You could link to something that mentions the roster and not just Williams as being attractive for the head job.

https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1870863932241723802?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
Another occasion where you talk out of your ass since your ridiculous take is difficult to prove false.

He refuses to run slants is difficult to prove false?
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 12:14:19 PM
https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1870863932241723802?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Did not mention the roster. Mentioned Williams and  cap space and allegedly breaking ground on a new stadium in a year (LOL).
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Judge Judy on December 22, 2024, 02:33:15 PM
Have 1st and 5 and end up 3rd and 11…
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Judge Judy on December 22, 2024, 02:34:00 PM
Then 4th and 20…
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Judge Judy on December 22, 2024, 02:34:49 PM
And now 4th and 25…
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 02:44:13 PM
Jonathon Vilma thinks the roster is good to go.....
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 02:45:06 PM
1st punt today with 535 to go in 4th.....the defense is close to thinking about thinking about being Elite.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: No one in Mn on December 22, 2024, 02:56:20 PM
How did the cap space do today ?
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 02:57:11 PM
How did the cap space do today ?

Improving as there will be more guys to cut!
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:03:29 PM
He refuses to run slants is difficult to prove false?

Not as difficult as I thought.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:04:51 PM
He refuses to run slants is difficult to prove false?

Yeah, video of him running slants the past few months probably are not all over the internet.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:05:32 PM
How did the cap space do today ?

Is this supposed to be clever?
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:07:53 PM
Did not mention the roster. Mentioned Williams and  cap space and allegedly breaking ground on a new stadium in a year (LOL).

And extra draft capital. You think that’s a win for you? You’re the guy crying no one desirable will be interested in the job.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: No one in Mn on December 22, 2024, 03:12:24 PM
Is this supposed to be clever?
The question was already answered. I'm being told it's improving.
What's your take ?
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:16:17 PM
Yeah, video of him running slants the past few months probably are not all over the internet.

Because he does not run them
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:17:36 PM
And extra draft capital. You think that’s a win for you? You’re the guy crying no one desirable will be interested in the job.

Yes. "Roster" not mentioned. Getting new guys mentioned because the roster sucks.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 22, 2024, 03:27:57 PM
I watched about 15 seconds of the game.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:42:30 PM
Tempo's Yale Lineman Guy a healthy scratch today....

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/12/22/bears-inactives-wk-16-2024/

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The only surprise among the list of Bears inactive players is offensive lineman Kiran Amegadjie. Six days ago, Amegadjie was the team’s starting left tackle who was thrust into the starting lineup in a pinch. But fast forward to game day and the Yale product is a healthy scratch. That feels telling about how the Bears feel about the rookie right now.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 22, 2024, 03:43:49 PM
How many snaps did Cheeto Eating Lazy Sweat play today?
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:44:13 PM
Because he does not run them

You’ve already been proven wrong in this thread.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:45:11 PM
Tempo's Yale Lineman Guy a healthy scratch today....

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/12/22/bears-inactives-wk-16-2024/

As he probably should be. Kid was a project and not supposed to play right away. Didn't put on pads till like a month ago (no preseason, no camp).
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:45:51 PM
You’ve already been proven wrong in this thread.

Where? He doesn't run them and no one has said the roster is the reason the job is attractive
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:46:10 PM
Yes. "Roster" not mentioned. Getting new guys mentioned because the roster sucks.

No one is gonna want this job, wahhhh!!!
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:46:36 PM
Where? He doesn't run them and no one has said the roster is the reason the job is attractive

Ummm, go back and look.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:46:43 PM
How many snaps did Cheeto Eating Lazy Sweat play today?

Good question. 
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:47:16 PM
Good question.

Who cares. It’s lose out time.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:49:31 PM
According to this, 11% of his routes were slant routes (at this time earlier in the season). A lot of screens and outs, which sounds about right.

(https://i.postimg.cc/FzSMNkPw/IMG-9912.png) (https://postimg.cc/0K8WCj1C)

 
LOL. Love to know what they consider a slant since he has not run one since he's been here. They never ran them because Fields could not throw them and William's has not thrown one either
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:50:28 PM
Who cares. It’s lose out time.

Because it impacts cap space because Poles is a shithead.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:51:45 PM

LOL. Love to know what they consider a slant since he has not run one since he's been here. They never ran them because Fields could not throw them and William's has not thrown one either

“Even though you have provided proof, I refuse to accept it; because it does not fit my narrative.” - ThePAMan
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:52:29 PM
No one is gonna want this job, wahhhh!!!

You are the one claiming people are saying the roster is attractive.   That isn't true.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:53:17 PM
“Even though you have provided proof, I refuse to accept it; because it does not fit my narrative.” - ThePAMan

Fields never threw one. Even you were wondering why they weren't. Williams hasn't either.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:54:20 PM
“Even though you have provided proof, I refuse to accept it; because it does not fit my narrative.” - ThePAMan

I am questioning the veracity of that given we have not seen one thrown for years at this point.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:54:45 PM
You are the one claiming people are saying the roster is attractive.   That isn't true.

Go find something else to do. Not going to argue this nonsense with you. Lots of people have said the roster has a good nucleus of players. Don’t bother responding because you’re not getting another response on your drivel.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 03:55:40 PM
I am questioning the veracity of that given we have not seen one thrown for years at this point.

“Your data does not fit my narrative, therefore it’s irrelevant.” - ThePAMan

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Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 03:57:17 PM
Go find something else to do. Not going to argue this nonsense with you. Lots of people have said the roster has a good nucleus of players. Don’t bother responding because you’re not getting another response on your drivel.

The roster fucking sucks. Like Your Guys Fields, Poles, and Eberlose!
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 04:02:10 PM
I am questioning the veracity of that given we have not seen one thrown for years at this point.

Forgive me if I don’t ride with the observational powers and recall of the guy who said the Bears haven’t won more than 4 games in the Poles era.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 04:13:56 PM
Forgive me if I don’t ride with the observational powers and recall of the guy who said the Bears haven’t won more than 4 games in the Poles era.

Fair enough.

Though the failure to call slants when Fields was QB was a topic of discussion amongst us.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2024, 04:26:52 PM
They didn’t throw many, true. And it was a source of aggravation for me.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: No one in Mn on December 22, 2024, 04:35:37 PM

LOL. Love to know what they consider a slant since he has not run one since he's been here. They never ran them because Fields could not throw them and William's has not thrown one either
One of the best passes I saw Fields throw was a slant to Moore
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2024, 04:44:31 PM
One of the best passes I saw Fields throw was a slant to Moore

Because it was intercepted by the Viking?

It must have been the only one in 3 years.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: No one in Mn on December 22, 2024, 04:54:54 PM
Because it was intercepted by the Viking?

It must have been the only one in 3 years.
😂 It was a complete pass.
A quick decision and threw a bullet.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2024, 07:31:12 AM
How many snaps did Cheeto Eating Lazy Sweat play today?

41 of 65. 63%. What a bust. Of course Tempo loves him!
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2024, 07:39:56 AM
Tempo, question for you: How many games do you think that Bear offense has gotten through the "scripted" plays in the 1st quarter? I'm guessing not many. May be part of the issue with the offense?
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2024, 08:32:38 AM
No clue
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2024, 09:20:07 AM
No clue

Wondering if poor scripted plays are a problem.
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2024, 09:29:01 AM
Wondering if poor scripted plays are a problem.

To.quote another legendary Bears coach, John Fox, "it's all a problem."
Title: Re: The Bears vs the Kitty Cats from Detroit.
Post by: Custard on December 23, 2024, 06:15:10 PM
To.quote another legendary Bears coach, John Fox, "it's all a problem."

Accurate