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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Custard on December 13, 2024, 10:12:20 PM
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I predict there will be lots of teaching moments, but Brad may burn the game film.
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I predict a national coming out party for the Illini and Morez (provided the shithead coach actually plays him)
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Tennessee has done very well against offensive teams in recent past. However ,Illinois is due for either Ben H or Will Riley to go off. KJ/ Boswell & Lanier/Zeigler will prob cancel each other out. Tomislav should get the better of Okpara. Milicic will probably rape Ben H when he has the ball.
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Tennessee hasn't played a team near as good as Illinois though, and it's on the road.
This should be Tennessee's toughest game so far. We should win
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Big resume stamping W imho
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1 and 1/2 point dogs ?
Why do I think we'll turn the ball over and shoot 28% from 3 ?
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Would obviously love to see a W. Will be satisfied with a close game, win or lose. Can’t shake the feeling that we are going to get manhandled, especially with the way Riley and Humbrickhous have been playing.
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I thought Arkansas would push us around but they couldn't. Hit some 3's and make the FTs and who knows?
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I thought Arkansas would push us around but they couldn't. Hit some 3's and make the FTs and who knows?
Arkansas doesn't have the #4 ranked defense, but we are even with the VOLS with 3 pt defense % in the country, we do have a fighters chance if we can make some., we rebound overall better, take more free throws per game, and we make more 3's per game.
Ironically: Daddy Brad stated he didn't make the right moves in game in recent podcast....he would be wise to implement some zone, pack the box, the Vols could beat us from 3 with 37% per game, but this would alleviate some athletic ability that they have and also allow us to rebound with them or even better than them.
Guards will even each other out in my opinion...if Riley could negate Milicic (sp) then I think we win the game. The Vols have limited bench production top to bottom, if they get in foul trouble, we could have a very very good day!
85-77 ILLINI at home, #1 goes down.
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Gonna have to hit threes to win. Like 65-70% of them.
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This guy should post here.
https://x.com/YuCuanIllini/status/1867951255156568393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Much prosper for glorious Illinois basket ball team . May please beat the Ten Nessie team . Lithium battery man perform splendiferous . Same to Tom Is Slav . Much require for the Humper Couch / More Is Johnson to land shot if receive minute .
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This guy should post here.
https://x.com/YuCuanIllini/status/1867951255156568393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Much prosper for glorious Illinois basket ball team . May please beat the Ten Nessie team . Lithium battery man perform splendiferous . Same to Tom Is Slav . Much require for the Humper Couch / More Is Johnson to land shot if receive minute .
It would get racist real quickly 😂 jasn would also try to commit a hate crime because the guy would be trying to steal his schtick…
They’d probably have a shitting contest to see who gets to stay here… while working their corporate jobs…
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Good start. We’re playing TOUGH!
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Yes good game so far this ones gonna be a grinder
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Looking very much like a Pizza Hut parking lot brawl so far
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Lanier with a moon shot. Starting to get a little bullshitty
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Tennessee getting the ticky tack shit calls
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Inbounding the ball is a mission for us.
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Blocking out looking like the new free shots
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How about boxing some people out?
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Can't miss easy putbacks either against the #1 squad
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ILLINI better hope the rest of the VOLS don't figure out they have a game today...damn Chaz only one scoring and we can't be up by double digits and more.
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Free shot defense has been pretty good so far
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Its like there is a lid on the basket
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ILLINI better hope the rest of the VOLS don't figure out they have a game today...damn Chaz only one scoring and we can't be up by double digits and more.
We aren’t shooting worth a shit either though. So same could be said for us.
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26 fuckin fouls this half my god
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They've outshot us from 3 is the difference. They've made 2. We have 1.
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My eyes are bleeding watching this
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This is some Bruce Weber “offens-ive” shit…
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They've missed more than we have. Both teams have 6 buckets. They've missed 3 more buckets and 3 more free shots.
We're staying with them tho.
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Best bucket of the game was the Altmyer return announcement.
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We aren’t shooting worth a shit either though. So same could be said for us.
I am pretty sure in more cases than not, if the #1 team is playing this bad ANY other team would think they should be up by ALOT, not down by 1. That said, the ILLINI are mishandling the ball, weak with ball control, Vols know the cuts, and our players for the most part are running plays, not improvising when good D is being played.
Riley is the exception so far, and he is nowhere near strong enough with the ball, his cuts, and his shot selection well....not NBA 1st Rd material imo this year. Love what the kid brings to us, he just isn't ready.
Ivisic has to come on strong, foul out Lanier/Zeigler...just run plays at them the 2nd half. Make them take more 3's, they prefer cuts/and 2's.
C'mon BU, gameplan, and get White against Lanier matchups would be nice on offense. Defer KJ some and get some easy 2's in play with chance at some and 1's.
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No one our side with more than one made FG.
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Best bucket of the game was the Altmyer return announcement.
Yeah, good news…
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Need somebody to step up here in the second half…
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Both teams are playing hard. That was a good half for us to have.
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Both teams are playing hard. That was a good half for us to have.
Agreed. Looking at the box score is making my eyes bleed though…
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I am pretty sure in more cases than not, if the #1 team is playing this bad ANY other team would think they should be up by ALOT, not down by 1. That said, the ILLINI are mishandling the ball, weak with ball control, Vols know the cuts, and our players for the most part are running plays, not improvising when good D is being played.
Riley is the exception so far, and he is nowhere near strong enough with the ball, his cuts, and his shot selection well....not NBA 1st Rd material imo this year. Love what the kid brings to us, he just isn't ready.
Ivisic has to come on strong, foul out Lanier/Zeigler...just run plays at them the 2nd half. Make them take more 3's, they prefer cuts/and 2's.
C'mon BU, gameplan, and get White against Lanier matchups would be nice on offense. Defer KJ some and get some easy 2's in play with chance at some and 1's.
Counting on Underachiever to out x and o anyone, even Rick Barnes, is asking a lot.
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4th on Ziegler. Huge!
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KJ 3 and 1!
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KJ 3 and 1!
And another one
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KJ on fire!!!!!!!!! 🔥
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We're in the bonus. Let's stop chucking threes.
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We're in the bonus. Let's stop chucking threes.
Except for KJ
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We're in the bonus. Let's stop chucking threes.
+1
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Ziegler and Lanier both with 4. Drive every time down the court…
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Humrichous just can't be out there
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Humrichous just can't be out there
Humchurros with the slam!
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GRAB A REBOUND
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Close this out.
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Humchurros with the slam!
Hope he keeps shutting me up!
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Lanier: he gawn!
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Gotta shut down Gainey…
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Gotta shut down Gainey…
Told ya…
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WTF
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KJ, bruh...
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Great inbounds plays, Underachiever!
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Just dumb fucking plays in a critical time…
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Pull this out please!!!
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Free shots an issue!
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Underachiever sucks ass
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Fucking brutal
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Nut punch. Bummer.
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That's why you guard the inbounder
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So lucky to have Underachiever! Great inbounds plays!
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The fuck was that
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Told ya…
Again… AOTC.
I’m fucking pissed 😡
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Their best players in foul trouble and still fuck it up
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Rough finish but a good learning tool, unfortunately
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Typical LOLlinois…
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The fuck was that
Another Underachiever Special is what it was
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I predict there will be lots of teaching moments, but Brad may burn the game film.
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Rough finish but a good learning tool, unfortunately
We learned that Underachiever still cannot design inbounds plays?
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GARBAGE IN GAME COACHING...GARBAGE IN BOUNDS PLAYS...GARBAGE, GARBAGE, GARBAGE against the WEAKEST #1 that we ever had a chance to beat at home....
My god, 7 guys on the Vols team playing, and a bench player leads them with 23 pts....well done staff, well done, F*^c(ng Garbage of a gameplan and play top to bottom from our ILLINI at home...squandered another chance and although it was physical no one can scream about the fouls this time...
We were just GARBAGE!!!
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Gosh darn it. Just let him go coast to coast.
Can beat anyone can lose to anyone.
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4-23 from 3. 4.
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Rough finish but a good learning tool, unfortunately
#1 in the house is NOT a time for learning tools....we played like tools, I guess we learned that, what a opportunity pissed away.
Barnes should be thanking Underwood, what a shame
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The inbounds play was fine. The pass was shit and even worse Ivisic didn’t come to the ball or even try to grab it.
We led #1 that’s been absolutely dominating people for most of the game. Doesn’t mean the loss is any less heartbreaking. Fuuuuuuck!!!!
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4-23 from 3. 4.
We made 30/36 free shots. The fuck else do you want?
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The inbounds play was fine. The pass was shit and even worse Ivisic didn’t come to the ball or even try to grab it.
We led #1 that’s been absolutely dominating people for most of the game. Doesn’t mean the loss is any less heartbreaking. Fuuuuuuck!!!!
When is the last time the refs basically took out the Illini's opponents' best players in a game?
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We learned that Underachiever still cannot design inbounds plays?
Was KJ the inbounds guy ? If it was, you gotta take the bad with the good.
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The inbounds play was fine. The pass was shit and even worse Ivisic didn’t come to the ball or even try to grab it.
We led #1 that’s been absolutely dominating people for most of the game. Doesn’t mean the loss is any less heartbreaking. Fuuuuuuck!!!!
All that may be true, the last part is at least, the problem is they were NOT even close to dominant and we should have throttled them, this game was pathetic, almost as much as that inbounds play and the ability of the players to pull it off.
I love the team of players, but man it sure seems like some HERO ball creeping back in, BU simply didn't do SH' today and the players fought hard, just not consistent in any manner.
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We made 30/36 free shots. The fuck else do you want?
Apparently MN wants better than 17% 3- point shooting
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It would be nice if the strategy of chucking 3s had some adjustment against teams who rebound well and are quicker than our guys on the perimeter.
KJ also has a small hero-ball problem but he's clearly our best gamer so not sure I'd want to discourage it.
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The inbounds play was fine. The pass was shit and even worse Ivisic didn’t come to the ball or even try to grab it.
Need better coaching so they don't screw it up with the game on the line?
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9 minutes without scoring a FG in the game...nearly 4:00 towards the end of the first half and nearly 5 in the 2nd. 30-36 FT is great but what the fugg with the shooting? I know it was physical but against #1 and them on the ropes, you can't do that.
BU better take all the blame for this one...my goodness.
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We couldn't find anyone open to inbound the ball to. Like, how?
KJ for all his skills has his moments where he's very casual with the basketball. That casualness cost us at the worst possible time. Gotta be stronger with the ball, kid.
You can't let Gainey, their best ball handler, go coast to coast and win it on a layup with so little time left. Make him give it up for a deep three or something and if they hit that, tip your cap.
Simply made too many mistakes down the stretch against #1. Our effort was outstanding, our execution was not.
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9 minutes without scoring a FG in the game...nearly 4:00 towards the end of the first half and nearly 5 in the 2nd. 30-36 FT is great but what the fugg with the shooting? I know it was physical but against #1 and them on the ropes, you can't do that.
BU better take all the blame for this one...my goodness.
Well, apparently he said he should have called TO after the Free Shot.....why is this guy always regretting his ingame decisions? Hmmmm
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https://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/plays/sideline-out-of-bounds-stack.html
https://hoopstudent.com/sideline-out-of-bounds-plays/
https://tgkathletics.com/plays/blobs/
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We made 30/36 free shots. The fuck else do you want?
5-23.
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We couldn't find anyone open to inbound the ball to. Like, how?
KJ for all his skills has his moments where he's very casual with the basketball. That casualness cost us at the worst possible time. Gotta be stronger with the ball, kid.
You can't let Gainey, their best ball handler, go coast to coast and win it on a layup with so little time left. Make him give it up for a deep three or something and if they hit that, tip your cap.
Simply made too many mistakes down the stretch against #1. Our effort was outstanding, our execution was not.
Reminded me of DePaul St. Joe's 1981.
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We couldn't find anyone open to inbound the ball to. Like, how?
KJ for all his skills has his moments where he's very casual with the basketball. That casualness cost us at the worst possible time. Gotta be stronger with the ball, kid.
You can't let Gainey, their best ball handler, go coast to coast and win it on a layup with so little time left. Make him give it up for a deep three or something and if they hit that, tip your cap.
Simply made too many mistakes down the stretch against #1. Our effort was outstanding, our execution was not.
Gainey was the best actually in the game, even discounting the last play, his 23 points off the bench is ridiculous.
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Well, apparently he said he should have called TO after the Free Shot.....why is this guy always regretting his ingame decisions? Hmmmm
Well he found a way to narrow down an entire game of ineptitude to one more bad coaching call/non call???
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All that may be true, the last part is at least, the problem is they were NOT even close to dominant and we should have throttled them, this game was pathetic, almost as much as that inbounds play and the ability of the players to pull it off.
I love the team of players, but man it sure seems like some HERO ball creeping back in, BU simply didn't do SH' today and the players fought hard, just not consistent in any manner.
So dramatic. They weren’t dominant because we played hard nosed defense. So did they. Their whole calling card is playing tough D and and rebounding and limiting the three point shot. They’re old and experienced and physical. Our young team that returned almost nothing from a a year ago matched their intensity.
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So dramatic. They weren’t dominant because we played hard nosed defense. So did they. Their whole calling card is playing tough D and and rebounding and limiting the three point shot. They’re old and experienced and physical. Our young team that returned almost nothing from a a year ago matched their intensity.
If only we had the guys on the team last year who transferred?
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Gosh darn it. Just let him go coast to coast.
Can beat anyone can lose to anyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS8QCoYfzW8
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Illinois tradition of blaming the best player continues. KJ wasn’t as efficient as usual but UT had a lot to do with that. But look at Hum, Ivisic, Riley. We needed games from those guys and got dog shit for the most part. Riley 1/9 from the floor. Hum had 5/1/1 in 30 mins. 4 points from Ivisic in 28 mins. Did grab 12 boards I guess. KJ was the only reason we are in the damn ballgame.
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If only we had the guys on the team last year who transferred?
I’d rather have Hansberry than Booth or Hum. The rest? Meh. Coleman wasn’t worth what it would have cost to keep him.
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It would be nice if the strategy of chucking 3s had some adjustment against teams who rebound well and are quicker than our guys on the perimeter.
KJ also has a small hero-ball problem but he's clearly our best gamer so not sure I'd want to discourage it.
Our interior efforts weren’t much better.
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Illinois tradition of blaming the best player continues. KJ wasn’t as efficient as usual but UT had a lot to do with that. But look at Hum, Ivisic, Riley. We needed games from those guys and got dog shit for the most part. Riley 1/9 from the floor. Hum had 5/1/1 in 30 mins. 4 points from Ivisic in 28 mins. Did grab 12 boards I guess. KJ was the only reason we are in the damn ballgame.
It's like the McCamey era with a much better supporting cast. Of the six guys we have who shoot the basketball, five had bad shooting games.
But also, we should have more than 6 guys who shoot the basketball.
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Our interior efforts weren’t much better.
No, they weren't, which is a credit to TN's defense to a point. Milicic is a good ballplayer. Probably a game where a mid-range offense would benefit but we don't really do that w/ the current set-up.
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damaga has been done with morez
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Morez is a freshman big who fouls a shit ton.
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I hated this game so much reminded me of watching us play purdue, ugly ugly hackeyball
but at least I won 100 bucks playing video poker during the game so that's something, I guess...
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I watched with a mix of big ten and sec fans, most were rooting for us. There was only one other Illini fan in the room, a 17 year old whose uncle played football for Illinois in the 90s. I seriously wanted to break some shit. That last minute and half were horrendous.
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damaga has been done with morez
To early for damage control, he will be playing way more come March imo. He has been committed for 3 years now. I don't think Rez thought it would be easy nor expect it to be. I would fully expect him, and Riley for that matter to be back.
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So dramatic. They weren’t dominant because we played hard nosed defense. So did they. Their whole calling card is playing tough D and and rebounding and limiting the three point shot. They’re old and experienced and physical. Our young team that returned almost nothing from a a year ago matched their intensity.
Whether true or not, the facts are the facts. Yes the ILLINI were the Vols toughest test to date, yes the ILLINI played hard, but if we are what some say/think we are, then you do not NOT take advantage of playing with intensity and finding a way to win. The Vols were at a supreme disadvantage (7 players) and we put them in a much bigger disadvantage by taking 2 of their top players away.
Reality 14:32-9:35 first half no field goals. 9:35 was a layup, next FG in 1st half was 5:29 layup, other than free throws, that was the scoring the last 9:35 of the first half, intensity isn't making up for that.
Reality 18:13-16:22 2 layups, 14:22-12:16 layup and 1 3 pt shot.
I could go on, the reality is we did not do what we should have been able to do with the cards dealt. We just didn't do it, the players didn't (yea they had intensity-hell almost every college game has that), we are simply not as good as we all had hoped this year would be. Will it be in March, I hope so, but this game was a dramatic one and we failed miserably in many areas. Intensity wasn't one of them.
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The season is far from over with, this is a super young team, we'll be pretty good but not great
the type of team that can win a B1G tournament and get bounced in the second round kind of team
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Oops.
https://www.on3.com/teams/tennessee-volunteers/news/tennessee-vols-basketball-illinois-jordan-gainey-shot-brad-underwood-not-ball-handler/
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Just watched the presser for Barnes, he is a very likable coach I will say. Very humble, the game was what it was...move on and learn I hope. We let one get away that is an understatement. BU will lament this one for awhile imo.