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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: Custard on November 29, 2020, 10:14:44 PM
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Looking for AOTC cred:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/29/joe-biden-twists-his-ankle-after-slipping-while-playing-with-dog
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Reporters have reached out to the First Dog Elect for confirmation, but had not received a reply by the time this story went to press.
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Is this really all the Cesspool has left? We haven’t seen a decline like this since the Roman Empire fell.
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No, you are.
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Most boring president ever
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Idk I think he’s fairly entertaining
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Franklin Pierce was a depressive alcoholic. But while Biden had 48 years to overcome his daughter dying in a crash, Pierce had two months. And his daughter had a penis.
Pierce was America's most handsome president.Joe Biden was also handsome, again 48 years ago.
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Thanks that really helped frame things for me
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More like Sean Hannity....
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More like Sean Hannity....
Which one is Hannity?
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Thanks that really helped frame things for me
US Grant's first name was Hiram.
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This guy sucks. He has not locked up the Proud Boys, QAnon, and other insurrectionists and their enablers/supporters yet. Impeach him.
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Calvin Coolidge's first name: John
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Is this really all the Cesspool has left? We haven’t seen a decline like this since the Roman Empire fell.
Or like Biden’s cognitive ability....
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When he reaches your level, we'll know it's time to remove him.
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When he reaches your level, we'll know it's time to remove him.
Zing!
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In Pictures: Troops, riot fencing and razor wire in Washington DC
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/1/19/in-pictures-troops-riot-fencing-and-razor-wire-in-washington-dc
Welcome to Biden's America.
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Is this really all the Cesspool has left? We haven’t seen a decline like this since the Roman Empire fell.
Or as Carnac would say, "What happened when Sophia Loren's bra broke?"
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In Pictures: Troops, riot fencing and razor wire in Washington DC
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/1/19/in-pictures-troops-riot-fencing-and-razor-wire-in-washington-dc
Welcome to Biden's America.
looks like a lot of fun
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What a terrible guitar sound.
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Oh my god. Bon Jovi is hilaribad. I had to turn it off.
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Or as Carnac would say, "What happened when Sophia Loren's bra broke?"
You got a hearty Ed McMahon laugh out of me.
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In Pictures: Troops, riot fencing and razor wire in Washington DC
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/1/19/in-pictures-troops-riot-fencing-and-razor-wire-in-washington-dc
Welcome to Biden's America.
Thanks Trump!
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I cringed as soon as I saw that there was an inauguration party and who was part of it. The media and celebrities are trying really hard to make this an Obama moment and it’s just...not. It is quite fitting that this celebration is as old, lackluster and underwhelming as the Joe Biden presidency itself.
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I cringed as soon as I saw that there was an inauguration party and who was part of it. The media and celebrities are trying really hard to make this an Obama moment and it’s just...not. It is quite fitting that this celebration is as old, lackluster and underwhelming as the Joe Biden presidency itself.
Not even 1 full day and you're already bitching? Hey, at least Americans won't have to deal with the clown show that masqueraded as a "White House press conference" the past 4 years under Trump.
And, damn, you gave Tim Beckman more time at the UofI before deciding, "No mas".
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I cringed as soon as I saw that there was an inauguration party and who was part of it. The media and celebrities are trying really hard to make this an Obama moment and it’s just...not. It is quite fitting that this celebration is as old, lackluster and underwhelming as the Joe Biden presidency itself.
And so begins the BDS.
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Lol I’m not bitching about Biden I’m laughing at this hilarious forced celebration like he’s Obama or something.
The comment about Biden’s presidency isn’t anything I haven’t already said 16 times. Just because he isn’t Donald Trump doesn’t mean he deserves the hero worship he’s receiving. To his credit the moves made today seemed to be intentionally classy and signaled an about face from the time of Trump.
Even a buddy of mine in the UK was like seriously you guys can’t find one person who isn’t Donald Trump or old af? I guess my standards are too high.
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Just because he isn’t Donald Trump doesn’t mean he deserves the hero worship he’s receiving.
Maybe it's a relief to many to have a doddering old man at the helm instead of a narcissistic psychopath who enables extremists?
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I cringed as soon as I saw that there was an inauguration party and who was part of it. The media and celebrities are trying really hard to make this an Obama moment and it’s just...not. It is quite fitting that this celebration is as old, lackluster and underwhelming as the Joe Biden presidency itself.
It's akin to the celebration after the Death Star was destroyed. Not the one with the Ewoks. The earlier one.
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underwhelming as the Joe Biden presidency itself.
Nine hours, dude.
Jeebus.
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Even a buddy of mine in the UK was like seriously you guys can’t find one person who isn’t Donald Trump or old af? I guess my standards are too high.
Next time ask that dude WTF is the deal with Boris Johnson, who the fuck names their kid Boris?, and his hair.
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Nine hours, dude.
Jeebus.
Somewhere I read a line about reading things and matching a narrative...if I can only recall where that was.....
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I mean, even Fox waited almost 12 minutes before they started blaming Obama for TARP.
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Hypothesis confirmed.
Here’s another hot take for ya:
I feel kind of bad for Trevor Noah trying to fill Jon Stewart’s shoes. Did his writers quit when the pandemic started? Jesus what an awkward and uncomfortable show. He has like the 4th or 5th best set of Trump jokes on Comedy Central. No bueno.
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He's not working with the best people.
Case in point: I emailed his publicist in advance of a pre-covid appearance at the State Farm Center. I was offering exposure to downstate's largest morning drive audience.
She had an intern respond, to say "no."
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He's not working with the best people.
Case in point: I emailed his publicist in advance of a pre-covid appearance at the State Farm Center. I was offering exposure to downstate's largest morning drive audience.
She had an intern respond, to say "no."
Penny For Your Thoughts?
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That's not morning drive, is it? I thought it comes on at 9. Intriguingly, there's no schedule posted online.
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Hell idk, PFYT is the only C-U radio show besides Sportline that I know by name. I have caught the gardening program a couple-three times, just delightful.
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That's not morning drive, is it? I thought it comes on at 9. Intriguingly, there's no schedule posted online.
Is Stevie Jay still a thing in C-U?
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https://steviejay.com/
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Lol I’m not bitching about Biden I’m laughing at this hilarious forced celebration like he’s Obama or something.
Okay, my bad for misinterpreting your comment. People might actually be celebrating because Trump didn't go completely bonkers and launch an attack just before departing office. Just in case, someone might want to double check launch codes, lol.
The comment about Biden’s presidency isn’t anything I haven’t already said 16 times. Just because he isn’t Donald Trump doesn’t mean he deserves the hero worship he’s receiving. To his credit the moves made today seemed to be intentionally classy and signaled an about face from the time of Trump.
Some might say it's addition by subtraction more than anything. Very similar to when the UofI fired Beckman.
Apparently Trump wanted a sendoff on his final day in office. Not necessarily related, but did everyone remember to flush 10-15 times yesterday?
Even a buddy of mine in the UK was like seriously you guys can’t find one person who isn’t Donald Trump or old af? I guess my standards are too high.
Isn't Queen Elizabeth II getting up there in age? Age-wise, Biden could be her son. Elizabeth II is still the constitutional monarch and head of state but I'll bet many people would name her as the head of the UK government. Nope, that's Prime Minister Boris Johnson -- but the Queen can fire him. Weird.
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I am insanely curious as to what Trumps letter to Biden says, if he even bothered to write one... lol
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https://steviejay.com/
There is a lot going on on that website.
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I am insanely curious as to what Trumps letter to Biden says, if he even bothered to write one... lol
There's a letter. I don't think Trump wrote it himself.
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I am insanely curious as to what Trumps letter to Biden says, if he even bothered to write one... lol
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why is Biden talking like Trump in this quote lol
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/20/politics/trump-letter-to-biden/index.html
"The President wrote a very generous letter," Biden told reporters. "Because it was private, I will not talk about it until I talk to him, but it was generous."
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https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2021/01/21/tone-down-biden-inauguration-media-adulation-461122?__twitter_impression=true
Custard = Jack Shafer is a match.
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Yeah that sums up perfectly what I was feeling Wednesday.
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Another one from Politico ........
These are some of the people who answered the call to protect the Capitol, the people who passed some type of vetting process, the people who were used to provide for nice photo-ops.
Within 24 hours, relegated to a parking garage with 1 bathroom for 5000 troops.
I member a President who wouldn't allow this to happen.
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Yeah that sums up perfectly what I was feeling Wednesday.
I know what you were saying.
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I am insanely curious as to what Trumps letter to Biden says, if he even bothered to write one... lol
"Pardon me Joe, I left you something generous to sign."
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"Pardon me Joe, I left you something generous to sign."
If so, this is genius.
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Another one from Politico ........
These are some of the people who answered the call to protect the Capitol, the people who passed some type of vetting process, the people who were used to provide for nice photo-ops.
Within 24 hours, relegated to a parking garage with 1 bathroom for 5000 troops.
I member a President who wouldn't allow this to happen.
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This unfortunate situation was caused by the Capitol Police who don't report to the President. Who knew?
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Sounds like the Capitol police are ignorant. No wonder it got overran earlier this month. Sounds like they all need fired because obviously they don’t know how to do their job. Our troops deserve better than this shit.
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= Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage. =
Hope this Guardsman never has to take part in combat or a potential conflict. There's a pretty good chance that standing around and being ignored will be part of the experience.
Here are a few of the headlines I’ve seen regarding the Capitol Police preparations (or lack thereof) for the riot at the Capitol:
• Police Command Structure Crumbled Fast During Capitol Riot
• FBI Warned Capitol Police Before Trump Rally
• Capitol Police Denied Backup Two Days Before Riot
• Pentagon Took Hours to Authorize National Guard
• Did Capitol Rioters Have Hidden Help?
There are disconnects all over the place, and I can only infer there is some industrial-strength deceit taking place. Looks like we have the candidates for blame being extraordinary incompetence or malicious informed neglect.
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= Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage. =
Hope this Guardsman never has to take part in combat or a potential conflict. There's a pretty good chance that standing around and being ignored will be part of the experience.
Here are a few of the headlines I’ve seen regarding the Capitol Police preparations (or lack thereof) for the riot at the Capitol:
• Police Command Structure Crumbled Fast During Capitol Riot
• FBI Warned Capitol Police Before Trump Rally
• Capitol Police Denied Backup Two Days Before Riot
• Pentagon Took Hours to Authorize National Guard
• Did Capitol Rioters Have Hidden Help?
There are disconnects all over the place, and I can only infer there is some industrial-strength deceit taking place. Looks like we have the candidates for blame being extraordinary incompetence or malicious informed neglect.
Better be careful or you’ll be labeled a conspiracy theorist, racist, traitor, and they’ll start telling you that you need “reprogrammed.”
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Better be careful or you’ll be labeled a conspiracy theorist, racist, traitor, and they’ll start telling you that you need “reprogrammed.”
You forgot."moron".
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Another one from Politico ........
These are some of the people who answered the call to protect the Capitol, the people who passed some type of vetting process, the people who were used to provide for nice photo-ops.
Within 24 hours, relegated to a parking garage with 1 bathroom for 5000 troops.
I member a President who wouldn't allow this to happen.
(https://i.ibb.co/s3JchT7/Screenshot-20210122-084314.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XJk69nH)
Under the last guy, they would have only been there due to the perceived threat caused by a gathering of Black people.
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= Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage. =
Hope this Guardsman never has to take part in combat or a potential conflict. There's a pretty good chance that standing around and being ignored will be part of the experience.
Here are a few of the headlines I’ve seen regarding the Capitol Police preparations (or lack thereof) for the riot at the Capitol:
• Police Command Structure Crumbled Fast During Capitol Riot
• FBI Warned Capitol Police Before Trump Rally
• Capitol Police Denied Backup Two Days Before Riot
• Pentagon Took Hours to Authorize National Guard
• Did Capitol Rioters Have Hidden Help?
There are disconnects all over the place, and I can only infer there is some industrial-strength deceit taking place. Looks like we have the candidates for blame being extraordinary incompetence or malicious informed neglect.
They have not gotten around to clearing all the Trumpists out of the Capitol Police yet.
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Don't let the facts get in the way of Mn's opinions derived from Power Line!
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That was such a pathetic effort to protect the Capitol when the whole world knew there would be a potentially dangerous rally of sorts. So pathetic that Occam’s Razor suggests someone wanted these people in the building. And I highly doubt Donald J Trump was the only one that could see some utility in the potential breach. 100% allowed it to happen.
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Under the last guy, they would have only been there due to the perceived threat caused by a gathering of Black people.
You just can’t help making shit up can you. And you’re calling other people “morons” 😂
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That was such a pathetic effort to protect the Capitol when the whole world knew there would be a potentially dangerous rally of sorts. So pathetic that Occam’s Razor suggests someone wanted these people in the building. And I highly doubt Donald J Trump was the only one that could see some utility in the potential breach. 100% allowed it to happen.
You’re talking to a troll. Trolls gonna troll.
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Joe picked Kamala because she smelled the best but as a proud Indian man I can’t see why he picked an Indian(ish) woman. Even I do that sheeet in private and I only date the white women in public. I’ve eaten enough from the curry bowl in my life to know that.
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Joe picked Kamala because she smelled the best but as a proud Indian man I can’t see why he picked an Indian(ish) woman. Even I do that sheeet in private and I only date the white women in public. I’ve eaten enough from the curry bowl in my life to know that.
Yeah whoever’s alt this is is a pathetic racist and not really that funny.
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The curry bowl. 🥴
Is it a CT knockoff or something else?
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Hey, I vote team Kanye, man! Game respect game. But I have lotta haterz and they usually don’t have BIG penis.
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Under the last guy, they would have only been there due to the perceived threat caused by a gathering of Black people.
The last guy is the only reason they are there.
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Is that true? Or do they distinguish gender identity from biological sex?
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That was such a pathetic effort to protect the Capitol when the whole world knew there would be a potentially dangerous rally of sorts. So pathetic that Occam’s Razor suggests someone wanted these people in the building. And I highly doubt Donald J Trump was the only one that could see some utility in the potential breach. 100% allowed it to happen.
Completely agree. It has been established they were warned and did nothing.
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You’re talking to a troll. Trolls gonna troll.
You are a jackass loser. Stop drinking bleach jagoff.
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You just can’t help making shit up can you. And you’re calling other people “morons” 😂
What a complete dumbfuck you are. Feel badly for your daughter who has a complete doofus for a dad.
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Is that true? Or do they distinguish gender identity from biological sex?
He was apparently hit on the head and is on disability. What do you expect?
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You just can’t help making shit up can you. And you’re calling other people “morons” 😂
Because we saw what happened when your loser Soviet stooge hero wanted to hold a Bible upside down in front of a church. Just mainline the bleach from now on, moron. What a fucking idiot you are. There is no way you went to Illinois.
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That escalated quickly
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Is that true? Or do they distinguish gender identity from biological sex?
And again, I'll point out that the anti-science crowd, who tend to vote the same way as the anti-regulation crowd, are the most likely to
1. oppose regulations that stop endocrine disruptors from invading the environment
2. oppose the people whose biology is disrupted by endocrine disruptors
https://www.usgs.gov/centers/cba/science/land-use-influences-estrogenic-endocrine-disruption-fish-within-chesapeake-bay?qt-science_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects
https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2013/01/toxic-contamination-remains-widespread-in-the-chesapeake-bay/
https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-poisoned-waters/
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It is not getting the attention it deserves from a policy standpoint from either side of the aisle. But I understand and appreciate what you’re getting at.
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What a complete dumbfuck you are. Feel badly for your daughter who has a complete doofus for a dad.
Yeah you’re pathetic. All you do is name call and show your ignorance. Sounds like I triggered somebody. Every post on here you feel like you gotta talk about me. Weird.
I’m a great dad. Idgaf what you think.
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If you feel badly, you have callused fingertips.
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If you feel badly, you have callused fingertips.
Who said I feel bad?! 😂
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It’s obvious you just don’t understand what’s going on.
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What a complete dumbfuck you are. Feel badly for your daughter who has a complete doofus for a dad.
And I don’t mind the back and forth on here, but don’t talk about my children. Taking it a little too far and making an internet message board post like this isn’t cool. So stop.
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It is not getting the attention it deserves from a policy standpoint from either side of the aisle. But I understand and appreciate what you’re getting at.
Democrats have been paying attention. John Kerry, Diane Feinstein, Edward Markey and Jim Moran have all introduced comprehensive bills over the past 10-20 years to improve the testing, monitoring and regulation of endocrine disruptors.
Even Susan Collins is “concerned” about the lack of adequate regulations. She’s worked with Feinstein on legislation to reduce the risk of EDCs in personal care products. Unfortunately the rest of the Republicans don’t seem to care. So I’d say one way to address the problem is to elect more Democrats to Congress, especially the crazy ones that want to improve public health and environmental laws.
Biden also has an opportunity to move the ball forward. He can put someone in charge of EPA’s chemical safety program that will enforce the modest rules that are already on the books for screening and testing pesticides and other widespread chemical substances for endocrine-disrupting effects. Someone who will stand up to the chemical industry lawyers and lobbyists.
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Who said I feel bad?! 😂
Don't fash yourself. That joke was for the smart people.
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Don't fash yourself. That joke was for the smart people.
Of course Rob’s got to attempt to be the smartest person in the room.
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It would be a waste of time to make jokes that nobody could understand.
Fortunately, there are a few smart people here*, which makes it a worthwhile venue for discussion.
*and of course, one dumb one.
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It would be a waste of time to make jokes that nobody could understand.
Fortunately, there are a few smart people here*, which makes it a worthwhile venue for discussion.
*and of course, one dumb one.
So do you enjoy being an asshole and shitty person?
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Completely agree. It has been established they were warned and did nothing.
You expected a different result? Doing nothing (excluding voting themselves a pay raise) is the hallmark of government officials the world over.
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And I don’t mind the back and forth on here, but don’t talk about my children. Taking it a little too far and making an internet message board post like this isn’t cool. So stop.
Fuck off, dumbass.
You are probably too dumb to understand this, but no one here, except maybe Custard, knows who you are (or anyone else is, exceptions are Rob and Tempo) or who your daughter is.
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You expected a different result? Doing nothing (excluding voting themselves a pay raise) is the hallmark of government officials the world over.
In this instance the Capitol Police were warned and did not prepare because they knew it was the Judge Judys of the world showing up to riot and not minorities to protest. But I can't disagree with your point generally.
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Fellows, this conspiracy nonsense is getting out of hand. Why would I, the Mr. Rogers of world health, possibly want to mislead and destroy you by creating two sides of an irrelevant argument? I mean it’s not like my fellow billionaire buddies and I sit around in the NWO headquarters under the Denver airport and think of things to distract and divide you so we can take over the world without you noticing. Why doesn’t every one just relax, get drunk alone in your home while binging on Netflix, collect your stimulus check, and get vaccinated with the totally safe but not really fully tested vaccine that is probably unnecessary for young, healthy people?
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I'm thinking maybe it's time I get back in the mult business because those that are here need a lot of work.
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Fuck off, dumbass.
You are probably too dumb to understand this, but no one here, except maybe Custard, knows who you are (or anyone else is, exceptions are Rob and Tempo) or who your daughter is.
So I’ll pose the same question to you...
Do you enjoy being an asshole and shitty person?
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I'm thinking maybe it's time I get back in the mult business because those that are here need a lot of work.
Yes, that sounds like a terrific idea! We need you to be distracted with something so you don’t notice all of the money printing central banks are doing to devalue assets so we can purchase them all right from under your nose and turn you into a slave in the process. But, let’s keep debating Trump vs Biden a bit longer. I feel like that pony still has some steam left in it to keep you all distracted. I mean, it’s not like both of those guys were in our pocket this whole time.
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So I’ll pose the same question to you...
Do you enjoy being an asshole and shitty person?
Ok, here is a guy who gets it! I think more of you should spend even more time in irrelevant squabbles in dated chat rooms on the issues we created to divide and distract you.
Well done! 👏👏👏
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So I’ll pose the same question to you...
Do you enjoy being an asshole and shitty person?
Did you stop beating your daughter? Do you enjoy being an idiot? It appears you do.
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Ok, here is a guy who gets it! I think more of you should spend even more time in irrelevant squabbles in dated chat rooms on the issues we created to divide and distract you.
Well done! 👏👏👏
This mult needs a ton of work.
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Did you stop beating your daughter? Do you enjoy being an idiot? It appears you do.
Huh? Wtf is wrong with you?!
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This mult needs a ton of work.
However, I think we completed our work on you. You have all of the talking points down for one of the two political parties we’ve given you to choose from and you’re willing to fight strangers on the internet to the death over those points we gave you. It’s so beautiful to see our work come to completion like this. 🥲
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Did you stop beating your daughter?
Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.
Sustained.
C'mon - you're better than that.
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Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.
Sustained.
C'mon - you're better than that.
I know I screwed that up..it is supposed to be When did you stop beating your daughter?
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However, I think we completed our work on you. You have all of the talking points down for one of the two political parties we’ve given you to choose from and you’re willing to fight strangers on the internet to the death over those points we gave you. It’s so beautiful to see our work come to completion like this. 🥲
Your Word program sucks.
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Your Word program sucks.
Not as bad as your come backs though.
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Not as bad as your come backs though.
You are getting there.
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You are getting there.
Where? Living rent free in your head?
Just accept that you have invested heavily into one side of a perfectly crafted two sided argument used to distract you. It’s probably too optimistic of me to think you can come to the realization that you’ve been had and admit it to yourself over the course of one day. So, please lash out at me and others in this little anonymous internet bubble we’ve created here so we don’t have to face that stark reality, much less think about how to survive it and use it to your advantage like Jeff, Mark, and myself.
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On a positive note, hopefully Biden is doing something to assist those out in -50c weather protesting Putin's hijinks.
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Where? Living rent free in your head?
Just accept that you have invested heavily into one side of a perfectly crafted two sided argument used to distract you. It’s probably too optimistic of me to think you can come to the realization that you’ve been had and admit it to yourself over the course of one day. So, please lash out at me and others in this little anonymous internet bubble we’ve created here so we don’t have to face that stark reality, much less think about how to survive it and use it to your advantage like Jeff, Mark, and myself.
You need to come up with some better schtick. Make it funnier while biting.
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get vaccinated with the totally safe but not really fully tested vaccine that is probably unnecessary for young, healthy people?
I really, really wish everyone in the world understood how vaccines work. The world would be a much better place.
Anyone who says “I don’t need the vaccine, I’m healthy and young” either doesn’t understand vaccines or is just so insanely selfish that it’s probably a mental disorder.
Be honest though, did you put microchips or nano-bots in the Covid vaccine? I won’t tell anyone.
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I really, really wish everyone in the world understood how vaccines work. The world would be a much better place.
Anyone who says “I don’t need the vaccine, I’m healthy and young” either doesn’t understand vaccines or is just so insanely selfish that it’s probably a mental disorder.
Be honest though, did you put microchips or nano-bots in the Covid vaccine? I won’t tell anyone.
Certainly a bit ironic coming from a Bill Gates mult given Gates' malaria vaccine work.
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lash out at me and others in this little anonymous internet bubble
How are you cooling your balls?
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Truth?
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Not a chance.
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I really, really wish everyone in the world understood how vaccines work. The world would be a much better place.
Anyone who says “I don’t need the vaccine, I’m healthy and young” either doesn’t understand vaccines or is just so insanely selfish that it’s probably a mental disorder.
Be honest though, did you put microchips or nano-bots in the Covid vaccine? I won’t tell anyone.
I’m really really glad so few people in this world understand how healthcare works. 80 years ago, doctors who prescribed pills were referred to as “quacks” and these days everything is treatable by a pill that usually has side effects way worse that the illness being treated. Sure, medical science backs up this type of medicine, but who backs up medical science? Why it’s my buddies over there in big pharma who make a killing in profits by keeping you sick. Have you ever looked into how profitable vaccines are for those companies? Not to mention how fast this was developed yet research has been done for decades on cancer, AIDS, the common cold, and even herpes (looking at you, IhaveBIGpenis) yet there have been next to zero major breakthroughs with all that money and time invested.
So please, take the jab. I’m totally not banned from India for doing some shady vaccine shit, that’s fake news not even worth researching any further. Besides, I wasn’t a ruthless businessman when I ran Microsoft. The Netscape people would vouch for me 100% as being an upstanding guy. So I’m 100% on the up and up with all of this health stuff that I’m suddenly the leading expert on and appointed by no one to lead.
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Truth?
You can, and we have, said a lot of things about Truth, but "boring" is not one of them
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So please, take the jab. I’m totally not banned from India for doing some shady vaccine shit, that’s fake news not even worth researching any further. Besides, I wasn’t a ruthless businessman when I ran Microsoft. The Netscape people would vouch for me 100% as being an upstanding guy. So I’m 100% on the up and up with all of this health stuff that I’m suddenly the leading expert on and appointed by no one to lead.
Gary Kildall and others would probably say Microshaft has *NEVER* come up with anything good on its own. The company just used its OS monopoly status to stymie competition and progress for years. Payback is a b*tch, though. How's the Windows Phone thing going? How about Bing? And where's the closest open Microsoft Store? Are there any left? There are more open Sears locations...
Flight Simulator? Nope. The UofI's own Bruce Artwick.
Windows/GUI? Nope. Xerox PARC (not Apple)
.NET? Nope. Developed by Anders Hejlsberg while he was at Borland
Internet Explorer? Nope. The UofI's NCSA Mosaic.
xBox? Not even remotely close. Atari, Nintendo, PlayStation...
Halo? Nah. Bungie (later acquired by Microshaft)
Bing? Archie was around years before Bing. Even relative late-comer Google was around before Bing.
So after all these years, what is Microshaft best known for?
Bob?
Clippy?
The 640K barrier?
Blue screen of death?
Perhaps all the above.
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Truth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWRzPLzHJl0
Hank?
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Bob?
Clippy?
The 640K barrier?
Blue screen of death?
Just FYI, it's probably not the real Bill Gates.
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Just FYI, it's probably not the real Bill Gates.
You’re probably not the real fucking.
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Oh, but back in the day ...
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Just FYI, it's probably not the real Bill Gates.
Lol, you think?
Even so, I can't pass up a chance to ridicule Microshaft. It's almost a civic duty.
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What OSes do you like?
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I’m really really glad so few people in this world understand how healthcare works. 80 years ago, doctors who prescribed pills were referred to as “quacks” and these days everything is treatable by a pill that usually has side effects way worse that the illness being treated. Sure, medical science backs up this type of medicine, but who backs up medical science? Why it’s my buddies over there in big pharma who make a killing in profits by keeping you sick. Have you ever looked into how profitable vaccines are for those companies? Not to mention how fast this was developed yet research has been done for decades on cancer, AIDS, the common cold, and even herpes (looking at you, IhaveBIGpenis) yet there have been next to zero major breakthroughs with all that money and time invested.
So please, take the jab. I’m totally not banned from India for doing some shady vaccine shit, that’s fake news not even worth researching any further. Besides, I wasn’t a ruthless businessman when I ran Microsoft. The Netscape people would vouch for me 100% as being an upstanding guy. So I’m 100% on the up and up with all of this health stuff that I’m suddenly the leading expert on and appointed by no one to lead.
I mean, if you knew anything about medicine, you would understand why things like cancer, AIDS, and the cold are harder to deal with.
I’m also beginning to think you might not be the real Bill Gates.
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What OSes do you like?
Do you mean like, or LIKE like? Like more than a friend?
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What OSes do you like?
The winner (by default) is Windows 10. My notebook computer and gaming PC both have Windows 10 installed. I'll admit Microsoft did a pretty good job developing this version of the OS. It's solid, reasonably secure with some tweaks, and gaming is pretty good. This is in line with the every-other-major-Microsoft Windows version is decent (10 good, 8.x sucked, 7 good, Vista sucked, XP good, ME was garbage, 98 good, 95 was terrible...). BlueStacks, an Android emulator, runs well (enough) on Windows 10 so I didn't need to buy a Chromebook to play a couple of Android games on a large monitor.
I'm also working on a Kodi (Linux based) side project on a previously retired notebook computer. Not really sure why I'm doing this. Perhaps boredom?
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I liked 95 better than 98. As I type, I realize that my 95 machines were all in the UIUC Law library, or computer lab. So they probably had sufficient power and RAM. I must have used 98 during my bartending days, because I had a Gateway that could just barely get online and open email.
XP was a revelation. I recorded an entire album on a machine that had a single 128mb DIMM. In general, though, I didn't become a regular user until 2006.
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I mean, if you knew anything about medicine, you would understand why things like cancer, AIDS, and the cold are harder to deal with.
I’m also beginning to think you might not be the real Bill Gates.
I mean, if you knew anything about the business of medicine, you would understand how profitable things like cancer, AIDS, and the cold are to deal with. Why ruin an enormous business that does so well in draining people dry by actually curing the disease?
Yeah, I mean just look at that cocky little fuck Martin Shkreli. He had a good thing going until he got too greedy and got caught. If accusations fly around, you should have the power and clout to dissipate them either by the connections you have with your brothers in the NWO who control the media or make them disappear with your connections in big tech (not that I have any). When potential jurors say things like, "I'm aware of the defendant and I hate him", "he kind of looks like a dick", and "he disrespected the Wu Tang Clan" you’re fucked. That is JV level shit. But if you’re a harmless Mr. Rogers looking type, no one would suspect you’re Heisenberg.
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I liked 95 better than 98.
Yeah, on 98 we had a tough time getting it to run correctly once users had watched between 30 and 40 hours of clown porn, which was not a problem on 95. By the time XP rolled out, we had it fixed.
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Hmm.
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I liked 95 better than 98. As I type, I realize that my 95 machines were all in the UIUC Law library, or computer lab. So they probably had sufficient power and RAM. I must have used 98 during my bartending days, because I had a Gateway that could just barely get online and open email.
XP was a revelation. I recorded an entire album on a machine that had a single 128mb DIMM. In general, though, I didn't become a regular user until 2006.
A PC with the minimum required HW specs for running Windows can be a disappointment to the user, especially when running 3rd party programs (which many users tend to do). Since you mentioned XP and 128MB RAM, I thought I'd look up the system requirements. The minimum HW officially needed to run Windows XP (released 9/2001):
233 MHz processor
64 MB RAM
1.5 GB hard drive
800 x 600 resolution screen
128 MB RAM was recommended for XP. That was some fancy hardware you had back then, lol.
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A cold is a viral infection of the upper respiratory tract. There are more than 200 types of viruses than can cause colds; including coronaviruses. The most common are rhinoviruses; of which there are about 150 strains. Developing a vaccine that would protect against that many different pathogens is beyond the current state of science, but will likely happen in the not too distant future. A first step might be something that recognizes and disables rhinoviruses; which account for 50 - 75% of common colds. Meanwhile, a cold vaccine is not a high priority because the mortality rate is low.
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because the mortality rate is low.
Like, say, 2%?
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Like, say, 2%?
Not even close. The mortality rate for the seasonal flu in 2019 was .1%. It would be much lower for the common cold.
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Various reports: Over 5000 members of the national guard were kicked of the US Capitol and housed in an underground garage, after some were caught violating Joe Biden's mask order.
It turns out they are actually housed in hotel rooms. They had been taking breaks in the Capitol and adjacent buildings, but were told to use garages instead. No one is sure who initiated the order or why. It did not come from Congress. It was not about masks. The chief of capitol police says it was not them. The guard says it came from uniformed officers. Basically, a snafu.
Meanwhile, Trump's lack of a national Covid plan, economic mess, neo-mercantile America first foreign policy is fubar.
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Meanwhile, Trump's lack of a national Covid plan, economic mess, neo-mercantile America first foreign policy is fubar.
Moved to “Who are you blaming everything on today” thread
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Well boys, Melinda just called and she scored some adrenochrome for our pagon orgy later. I think we’re going use the beds made out of pallets of cash we had printed at the Federal Reserve last week. That’s always a fun treat.
Anyway, it’s been fun, but I have to get back to creating ridiculous things for you guys to debate so you don’t even notice the important things going on right under your nose that are greatly diminishing your quality of life. It’s going to be really hard to top a manufactured virus, race war, and a rigged election with two candidates that were already in our pocket. I mean, I’m feeling good about the start we have with all of those crisis actors we had riot the capital. I’m pretty impressed with all of the useful idiots that followed.
Anyway, I hate to say it, but I’m a bit busy for the #5 most popular Illini sports online forum. So I look forward to you becoming my debt slaves. Remember, we’re all in this together and it takes everyone.
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I had to Google Adrenachrome. Or maybe I should have used Bing?
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I’m a bit busy for the #5 most popular Illini sports online forum.
That settles it. The real Bill Gates would know this board is not top five.
Maybe he's the William Gates from Hoop Dreams.
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(c) Executive Order 13920 of May 1, 2020 (Securing the United States Bulk-Power System), is hereby suspended for 90 days. The Secretary of Energy and the Director of OMB shall jointly consider whether to recommend that a replacement order be issued.
very cool Joe, now our utility companies can buy grid power supply equipment made in China, that really showed orange man!
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I had to Google Adrenachrome. Or maybe I should have used Bing?
You’ve never seen Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas then, I assume?
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Like, say, 2%?
I know 2% sounds like a low mortality rate to people who don’t math good, but if the common cold actually had a 2% mortality rate, there’s a decent chance modern civilization as we know it probably wouldn’t exist.
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I’ve been wanting to read it for some time. I have a browser tab open on my phone where I’ve been doing some intermittent reading about Thompson.
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very cool Joe, now our utility companies can buy grid power supply equipment made in China, that really showed orange man!
Chill out…Biden’s action suspends the Trump executive order for 90 days. There were some general concerns and questions at the time the orange man signed the executive order last May, such as legal authority and scope, the proper role of the federal agencies involved and lack of clarity in drafting.
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/trumps-grid-security-order-sows-confusion-in-power-sector-but-dont-expe/579490/
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/president-s-executive-order-grid-security-creates-peril-and-uncertainty-us-power
The sky isn’t falling yet. Let’s see what the Sleepy Joe administration proposes as a replacement or modification for protecting grid security and other critical infrastructure against cyberattacks in the U.S.
https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/how-will-biden-administration-tackle-cybersecurity-a-15669
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Chill out…Biden’s action suspends the Trump executive order for 90 days. There were some general concerns and questions at the time the orange man signed the executive order last May, such as legal authority and scope, the proper role of the federal agencies involved and lack of clarity in drafting.
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/trumps-grid-security-order-sows-confusion-in-power-sector-but-dont-expe/579490/
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/president-s-executive-order-grid-security-creates-peril-and-uncertainty-us-power
The sky isn’t falling yet. Let’s see what the Sleepy Joe administration proposes as a replacement or modification for protecting grid security and other critical infrastructure against cyberattacks in the U.S.
https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/how-will-biden-administration-tackle-cybersecurity-a-15669
well that is certainly a bit more reassuring, but I'm not really optimistic, hopefully someone at the DOE knows wtf they are doing
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I’ve been wanting to read it for some time. I have a browser tab open on my phone where I’ve been doing some intermittent reading about Thompson.
IMHO the Rum Diary is a better read than Fear and Loathing.
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I’ve been wanting to read it for some time. I have a browser tab open on my phone where I’ve been doing some intermittent reading about Thompson.
Unsurprisingly, the book is better than the movie. But the movie is pretty good. It was a lot more enjoyable before Johnny Depp decided to appropriate 80% of the same character for Captain Jack Sparrow though. It’s a bit tired at this point after 53 Pirates movies (*estimated).
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Luckily for me I’ve seen zero of the Johnny Depp pirate films
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Luckily for me I’ve seen zero of the Johnny Depp pirate films
Really? Wonder what Bill Gates has to say about this.
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Key words: "Next several months."
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"Then came the discovery that adrenochrome, which is a product of the decomposition of adrenalin, can produce many of the symptoms observed in mescalin intoxication. But adrenochrome probably occurs spontaneously in the human body. In other words, each one of us may be capable of manufacturing a chemical, minute doses of which are known to cause profound changes in consciousness." -- Aldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception & Heaven and Hell 1953/56
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I was thinking of watching Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas tonight but it was getting kinda late so I decided to troll live TV in case something else was on. Coicidentally I came across a documentary on him called Gonzo and watched that instead. Interesting and kinda sad.
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I see no one is upset with the slew of executive orders Biden is signing...a few months ago this was authoritarian behavior !
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I see no one is upset with the slew of executive orders Biden is signing...a few months ago this was authoritarian behavior !
This is the wrong forum to talk like this. These liberal bitches will come after you with pitchforks and witchcraft.
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This is the wrong forum to talk like this. These liberal bitches will come after you with pitchforks and witchcraft.
The bleeding hearts here are the most vindictive and spiteful people I encounter in my entire life
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I see no one is upset with the slew of executive orders Biden is signing...a few months ago this was authoritarian behavior !
Aren’t a lot of those executive orders just undoing Trump’s executive orders?
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Aren’t a lot of those executive orders just undoing Trump’s executive orders?
Exactly.
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The bleeding hearts here are the most vindictive and spiteful people I encounter in my entire life
How those salty tears tasting?
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This is the wrong forum to talk like this. These liberal bitches will come after you with pitchforks and witchcraft.
I'm sure the witchcraft part is unintentional comedy, but I laughed.
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I'm sure the witchcraft part is unintentional comedy, but I laughed.
Good response.
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This is the wrong forum to talk like this. These liberal bitches will come after you with pitchforks and witchcraft.
What a silly thing to say. Nobody, and I mean nobody, has ever ridiculed you for your ideas.
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What a silly thing to say. Nobody, and I mean nobody, has ever ridiculed you for your ideas.
I laughed. This thread has been gold today!
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1-1=0
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Aren’t a lot of those executive orders just undoing Trump’s executive orders?
Some yes, others.....not so much lol. One thing I do know, he doesnt even know what he is signing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fP5c82dnCQ&feature=emb_logo
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"There is no evidence that Biden said, "I don't know what I'm signing here," and experts who have reviewed the audio say it's unclear.
Rob Maher, a professor at Montana State University's department of electrical and computer engineering and an audio forensic analysis expert, analyzed the audio in the video by reducing background noise to make the words more intelligible.
"At 24 seconds he (Biden) peruses the document and utters a phrase that sounds to me like 'a look what I’m signing here.' The vice president is simultaneously sliding the first folder over to the edge of the desk. I don’t detect any utterance by the vice president at that point," Maher told USA TODAY in a statement
https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-biden-said-signed-230925113.html
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https://youtu.be/q9x221CiVOE
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Trump took almost 70 lame duck executive actions.
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I can’t hear shit
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Is it really shocking that the usual morons fall.for the same.fake ass Facebook stupidity?
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Holy fuck, this might be one of the greatest Venn diagrams I’ve ever seen.
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Seriously can’t believe this old senile guy is the elected president of any developed nation let alone the US of A
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Seriously can’t believe this old senile guy is the elected president of any developed nation let alone the US of A
America, love it or leave it.
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Seriously can’t believe this old senile guy is the elected president of any developed nation let alone the US of A
He’s not my first choice either, but it’s better than a compulsive lying racist narcissist with ridiculous hair and an orange spray painted face. At least we are no longer the laughingstock of the world.
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He’s not my first choice either, but it’s better than a compulsive lying racist narcissist with ridiculous hair and an orange spray painted face. At least we are no longer the laughingstock of the world.
I hope Gelato lives a long life so he can enjoy the Biden, Harris, and Chelsea Clinton administrations.
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I hope Gelato lives a long life so he can enjoy the Biden, Harris, and Chelsea Clinton administrations.
I think Sandy, not Chelsea, will follow Harris. She’s amassing a huge war chest to steal elections and rig votes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/aoc-raises-2m-texas-relief-heads-houston-after-blasting-cruz-n1258389
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Woodrow Wilson's first name: Thomas
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Woodrow Wilson's first name: Thomas
This is actually almost creepy. I was talking about Woodrow Wilson a little after 1am last night, probably within 5 minutes of when you posted this.
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What is the fascination here with senile old or dead people ?
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What is the fascination here with senile old or dead people ?
Ironic.
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Ironic.
I’ll take sleepy Joe in a cognitive test any time anywhere
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I'd wager a fair amount that he'd take you in a physical contest, also.
He's got that Buzz Aldrin wirey old man thing going on.
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I'd wager a fair amount that he'd take you in a physical contest, also.
He's got that Buzz Aldrin wirey old man thing going on.
no he doesn't, he looks like shit, maybe he needs to take the stupid double mask off and get some oxygen to his muscles and brain
I mean he looks alright for 78, but plastic surgery will do that for ya
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My grandmother is knocking on the door to 90 and I think she’s sharper and more with it than Biden is. Although I don’t worry much about presidents, they have plenty of people to do stuff for them.
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maybe he needs to take the stupid double mask off and get some oxygen to his muscles and brain
Reminding Murph why he should be happy you are on the other side of the border.
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Reminding Murph why he should be happy you are on the other side of the border.
ok double masker
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I think a lot of people severely over-estimate how good they would look making speeches and answering detailed policy questions on national TV. Every one of you (and your grandmas) would look like goddamn blithering idiots in that scenario.
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ok double masker
I'll listen to Fauci over QAnon97.
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The Fauci-Biden conspiracy designed magic masks. They block Oxygen from entering and hold in Carbon Dioxide, but the much larger Coronaviruses pass through freely.
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I think a lot of people severely over-estimate how good they would look making speeches and answering detailed policy questions on national TV. Every one of you (and your grandmas) would look like goddamn blithering idiots in that scenario.
Idk man I’ve done a lot of public speaking. My grandma, on the other hand, has never even pumped her own gas.
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Idk man I’ve done a lot of public speaking. My grandma, on the other hand, has never even pumped her own gas.
Making a prepared speech is not the same as answering questions and other non-scripted stuff. You might be able to do fine, but in my experience, most people don’t sound nearly as coherent as they think they do/would in those situations.
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The Fauci-Biden conspiracy designed magic masks. They block Oxygen from entering and hold in Carbon Dioxide, but the much larger Coronaviruses pass through freely.
You’re blind if you can’t see how these magic masks are part of the globalist conspiracy.
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Making a prepared speech is not the same as answering questions and other non-scripted stuff. You might be able to do fine, but in my experience, most people don’t sound nearly as coherent as they think they do/would in those situations.
I get your point, but answering questions and non-scripted stuff is exactly the kind of public speaking I have typically done. Of course, that isn’t the same as being the President of the United States.
I happen to think Biden does a reasonable job of communicating for a man his age, but don’t quite get the defensiveness when people point out he’s showing some signs of cognitive decline. At his age it’s far more likely than not. And it’s not (always) an assault on his character.
Saturday Night Live has been making fun of old, seemingly out-of-touch presidents for decades and Biden is the oldest non-incumbent we’ve ever elected by nearly a decade. He’s eight years older than Trump, nine years older than Reagan and fourteen years older than George HW Bush were when they assumed office. Doesn’t mean he won’t have a great term, but it certainly raises the question, “How old is too old?”
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I was all over this Biden dementia thing a year ago too.
That was from his performances in the debates. He was unimpressive in the town hall the other day. Prepared speeches or lower pressure situations he's fine.
This gets back to his stutter, which is probably getting worse, and as he's aging he's having more trouble getting the right word when he needs it. It's hard enough for me to do that, and I need to just find the right word from my vocabulary, Biden needs to find the right word that works in the context of the words preceeding and following it to not trigger the stutter. The prepared speeches are designed to flow with his various difficulties.
But when you consider his strategy and decision making, it's been very artful so far.
Joe Manchin just announced he will vote to confirm Deb Haaland. She's a good pick for a lot of reasons, but her background would put a dimmer on fracking and coal, which Manchin supports, being a blue dog from a state basically propped up by coal and nat gas.
So why does he vote yes? He loses power if he always votes no, and he voted down Neera Tanden. Tanden was an odd pick, people were bagging on Biden for the choice given a lot of things in her background that didn't really require the CIA to do opposition research. Then Schumer schedules the two votes in succession, Manchin opposes Tanden, and then oh shit he can't vote against Haaland, so he votes yes then Biden rolls out his real pick for OMB.
This isn't just Biden, he has a savvy staff, but he knows how things work, and that edge is still there.
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Minor Nit - Tanden vote hasn't happened, was delayed, Manchin had just *signalled* he would vote her down.
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I get your point, but answering questions and non-scripted stuff is exactly the kind of public speaking I have typically done. Of course, that isn’t the same as being the President of the United States.
I happen to think Biden does a reasonable job of communicating for a man his age, but don’t quite get the defensiveness when people point out he’s showing some signs of cognitive decline. At his age it’s far more likely than not. And it’s not (always) an assault on his character.
Saturday Night Live has been making fun of old, seemingly out-of-touch presidents for decades and Biden is the oldest non-incumbent we’ve ever elected by nearly a decade. He’s eight years older than Trump, nine years older than Reagan and fourteen years older than George HW Bush were when they assumed office. Doesn’t mean he won’t have a great term, but it certainly raises the question, “How old is too old?”
Biden certainly isn’t at the top of his game any more. Pointing out that he might be declining is one thing. People who think “I could do as good as he did” are usually wrong though, which is the point of what I’m saying.
Speaking for myself, I might be a little sensitive to people saying he is cognitively declining because most of those accusations are coming from Trump fans, and Trump certainly was showing just as much (if not more) cognitive decline than Biden.
EDIT: also, along the lines of what Murph said, there’s not being able to speak as well, and there’s not being able to process information and make decisions. Biden might have speaking trouble, but I don’t have reason to doubt his decision making.
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I’m comfortable saying Trump and Biden are both over the hill for my taste. I guess I just prefer younger more charismatic and generally relatable candidates. Hard for me to relate to people twice my age that were career politicians or silver spoon playboy reality TV celebrities. I can kind of dig the razor sharp elder statesmanorwoman type of candidate as well but seems that’s also too much to ask.
Agree with murph that Biden seems to have a savvy staff. Not sure how much actual decision making he is doing but he has certainly restored some basic dignity to the position.
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I'm ready to anoint Kavita Patel or Nahid Bhadelia.
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If only CT was here to see this.
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If only CT was here to see this.
Too busy watching pixelated Asian porn.
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wow, imagine my shock, another "conspiracy theory" coming true
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/politics/us-iraq-iran/index.html
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What conspiracy
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What conspiracy
Exactly. The friggin' Iraqis approved the strike and helped pick where to strike after the Iramian supported groups were bombing bases. Thanks Trump!
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What “conspiracy theory” would this be?
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That press conference the other day was bizarre. Acted like the entire country was still locked down and no one was willing to leave their home unless they were vaccinated. Didn’t field any questions and just slowly turned around and doddered off. 🤷🏻♂️
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If he was off golfing, holding fundraisers, swilling diet coke, or obsessively watching cable news, I'd be concerned.
I like presidents who prefer to do work more than talking.
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Ok Baghdad Bob
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It's corroborated daily in the Star Tribune.
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"There is danger that, if the court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact."
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https://twitter.com/dustinevans1/status/1376914521508438023?s=21
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https://twitter.com/dustinevans1/status/1376914521508438023?s=21
That's really funny
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That's really funny
Careful.
Those were all MSNBC employees in the crowd. Project Veritas leaked the start of day team huddle session.
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Careful.
Those were all MSNBC employees in the crowd. Project Veritas leaked the start of day team huddle session.
That's funny too.
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ORANGE MAN BAD!
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Hahahaha
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Back on July 26, John Ellis astutely analyzed how it was acceptable to acknowledge Biden’s age and mental condition if you used certain euphemisms:
Somewhere along the way of the last few years, Biden transitioned from “young old” to “old.” Veteran reporters describe the transition in code. “He’s lost a step or two.” Or: “he’s lost something off his fastball.”
You’re not supposed to talk about it. If you do, and you’re a Democrat, you’re scolded for aiding and abetting the enemy. If you do, and you’re a Republican or (God forbid) a MAGA voter, you’re a horrible hate-mongerer, trying to overturn the results of a free and fair election (and you probably watch Fox News to boot).
The problem is that it’s there for all to see. Pretending not to see it is untenable.
Something is wrong with President Biden, and we are all being asked to pretend we don’t notice.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/something-is-wrong-with-the-president/
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Something was also wrong with Donald Trump and we were asked not to notice.
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Anyone who listens to Donald Trump speak and thinks to themselves, “man this guy is really with it” needs to be mentally evaluated themselves.
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This is the WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today thread
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I was AOTC bigly as usual
https://nypost.com/2021/08/20/did-abc-cut-unflattering-portions-of-joe-bidens-interview/
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Let's give him some credit, here. Now the Tallyban and ISIS will be busy going after each other. Genius!
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Let's give him some credit, here. Now the Tallyban and ISIS will be busy going after each other. Genius!
We don't know if the Taliban forked over any of their new found $88 billion in military equipment to the Kpals tho.
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We don't know if the Taliban forked over any of their new found $88 billion in military equipment to the Kpals tho.
The reports say they don't like each other. That was probably what Trump was talking about (they will fight terrorists) when he made the initial deal with the Tallyban.
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The reports say they don't like each other. That was probably what Trump was talking about (they will fight terrorists) when he made the initial deal with the Tallyban.
Both don't like us tho.
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We don't know if the Taliban forked over any of their new found $88 billion in military equipment to the Kpals tho.
$88 billion to train, equip and fund Afghan troops and police, and yet the Taliban are now in power.
Not an easy thing to manufacture political leadership, social cohesion and the will to fight in a land of many tribes, ethnicities and religious groups.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/how-afghanistan-fell-to-the-taliban-so-quickly.html
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We don't know if the Taliban forked over any of their new found $88 billion in military equipment to the Kpals tho.
"One expert says aircraft and other military equipment are likely worth less than $10 billion."
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/20/viral-image/no-proof-biden-left-taliban-80b-weapons-or-he-want/
"As the Taliban took over Afghanistan, it recovered military equipment the U.S. provided to the Afghan National Security Forces. The Islamic fundamentalist group now possesses guns, ammunition, Humvees and helicopters left behind by fleeing Afghan forces"
"The U.S. spent more than $83 billion equipping and training the Afghan military, but not all of that money went toward weapons"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/25/fact-check-biden-didnt-gift-taliban-weapons/8197978002/
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$88 billion to train, equip and fund Afghan troops and police, and yet the Taliban are now in power.
Not an easy thing to manufacture political leadership, social cohesion and the will to fight in a land of many tribes, ethnicities and religious groups.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/how-afghanistan-fell-to-the-taliban-so-quickly.html
Good to see the return of reasoned responses
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Who knew the Afghan army would collapse faster than the Cubs after the trading deadline?
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We left Bagram AFB in the middle of the night on July 6. We took air support and maintenance crews with.
" Afghan soldiers who wandered Monday throughout the base that had once seen as many as 100,000 U.S. troops were deeply critical of how the U.S. left Bagram, leaving in the night without telling the Afghan soldiers tasked with patrolling the perimeter.
“In one night, they lost all the goodwill of 20 years by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area,” said Afghan soldier Naematullah, who asked that only his one name be used."
https://apnews.com/article/bagram-afghanistan-airfield-us-troops-f3614828364f567593251aaaa167e623
From the same writer (on 8-10) of the CNBC article .....
As the U.S. withdrawals from Afghanistan, the Taliban has made stunning battlefield advances despite being vastly outnumbered by the Afghan military. Over the weekend, the Taliban swiftly seized five provincial Afghan capitals, taking three in one day alone.
“They have an Air Force, the Taliban doesn’t. They have modern weaponry and organizational skills, the Taliban doesn’t. They have superior numbers to the Taliban,” Kirby said. “They have the advantages, and it’s really now their time to use those advantages.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/10/biden-says-afghans-must-fight-for-themselves-as-taliban-advances.html
And on 8-16 ....
"But few expected a takeover this swift, with so little resistance from the Afghan government and Afghan National Army, the latter of which was funded and trained with $89 billion from the U.S. taxpayer."
"But among the main causes, analysts say, are intelligence failures, a more powerful Taliban, corruption, money, cultural differences, and simple willpower."
“When the U.S. announced a total withdrawal, that sent a signal to Afghan soldiers and police that the end was near, and converted chronically poor motivation into acute collapse as nobody wanted to be the last man standing after the others gave up,” he explained.
“Once the signal was sent, contagion dynamics thus took over and the collapse snowballed with increasing speed and virtually no actual fighting,” Biddle added."
No mention in either article of leaving Bagram on July 6.
We left with our intent of keeping troop numbers small enough to protect our embassy and a 1 runway international airport in the middle of an urban area. We couldn't protect Bagram and the embassy with those numbers.
We then sent 5,000 troops in.
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Maybe the Afghan army should have sucked it up and not have collapsed as fast as the Cubs after the trading deadline.
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Good effing grief. Trump told them we were pulling everyone out by May 1. How would pulling out of Bagram 2 months later come as a surprise? Makes no sense.
"Kirby insisted the U.S. withdrawal from Bagram had been communicated to high-level Afghan officials, saying the "final conversations" — including a joint walk-through of the facilities — occurred roughly 48 hours ahead of the departure."
"... though he added the exact time of departure was not shared in advance with Afghan officials due to security concerns."
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/06/1013319188/the-u-s-left-an-afghan-airfield-at-night-without-telling-the-new-commander
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Good effing grief. Trump told them we were pulling everyone out by May 1. How would pulling out of Bagram 2 months later come as a surprise? Makes no sense.
"Kirby insisted the U.S. withdrawal from Bagram had been communicated to high-level Afghan officials, saying the "final conversations" — including a joint walk-through of the facilities — occurred roughly 48 hours ahead of the departure."
"... though he added the exact time of departure was not shared in advance with Afghan officials due to security concerns."
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/06/1013319188/the-u-s-left-an-afghan-airfield-at-night-without-telling-the-new-commander
Because nobody in their right minds think we would abandon our air force base 2 months before getting US citizens out ?
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Because nobody in their right minds think we would abandon our air force base 2 months before getting US citizens out ?
I would guess, in theory, we didn't think the Afghan army was filled with guys who would just run away when the Tallyban said "Boo!"
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I would guess, in theory, we didn't think the Afghan army was filled with guys who would just run away when the Tallyban said "Boo!"
2 days later....
"THE PRESIDENT: It’s a — it’s a silly question. Do I trust the Taliban? No. But I trust the capacity of the Afghan military, who is better trained, better equipped, and more re- — more competent in terms of conducting war."
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2 days later....
"THE PRESIDENT: It’s a — it’s a silly question. Do I trust the Taliban? No. But I trust the capacity of the Afghan military, who is better trained, better equipped, and more re- — more competent in terms of conducting war."
Obviously he, and Trump, and everyone else who wanted us to leave Afghanistan, was wrong on the "competent" part. He was right on the rest.
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Because nobody in their right minds think we would abandon our air force base 2 months before getting US citizens out ?
Of course, US citizens only had since February of 2020 to leave.
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What US citizens are even left in Afghanistan besides military, contractors, or State Department, etc.? Guess there could be some NGO types.
Mr. and Mrs. Mn are not vacationing in Afghanistan.
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What US citizens are even left in Afghanistan besides military, contractors, or State Department, etc.? Guess there could be some NGO types.
Mr. and Mrs. Mn are not vacationing in Afghanistan.
Dual citizens who are vacillating on whether to stay or go.
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Dual citizens who are vacillating on whether to stay or go.
Well, they're dummies for vacillating.
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Love all the mental gymnastics you lefties do to protect this bozo ! You’d have more credibility if you actually held him to same standards as Trump !
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https://youtu.be/seQx_5MckGI?t=610
falling asleep during boring ass meetings... LOL
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Lol this is the one that came on after the one you just posted. https://youtu.be/7UacN76pLYc
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oy! those Aussies are spicy
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Well, they're dummies for vacillating.
Also green card holders.
It's good to see Trumpets standing up for immigrants.
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Lol this is the one that came on after the one you just posted. https://youtu.be/7UacN76pLYc
No, Trump was not impeached for being Trump. He violated the law.
Talk of impeaching Biden for allegedly being incompetent is misguided. That is a different process. See section 4 of the 25th Amendment.
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oy! those Aussies are spicy
Starting with their Dear Leader, Mr. Murdoch.
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https://youtu.be/seQx_5MckGI?t=610
falling asleep during boring ass meetings... LOL
Fact checkers debunk MK’s claim that Biden fell asleep in Bennett meet
https://www.timesofisrael.com/fact-checkers-debunk-mks-claim-that-biden-fell-asleep-in-bennett-meet/
No, Biden Didn’t Fall Asleep Listening to Israel’s Prime Minister.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-no-biden-didn-t-fall-asleep-with-israel-s-prime-minister-you-fell-for-fake-news-1.10165005
Both the North Korean and Iranian state media are also circulating the manipulated video. I’m reminded of the old adage: “you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep.”
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Lol this is the one that came on after the one you just posted. https://youtu.be/7UacN76pLYc
When you can't dazzle with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
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Glad to see the doctored video of Biden 'falling asleep' made its way to our astute conservative observers. Great work, guys.
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"Nearly everything Republicans are decrying happened under Trump."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/republicans-phony-complaints-afghanistan-exit-trump.amp
Pompeo Is Lying About Afghanistan
He laid the groundwork for the Taliban takeover. Now he’s blaming Biden.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/pompeo-lies-afghanistan-taliban-biden.amp
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Glad to see the doctored video of Biden 'falling asleep' made its way to our astute conservative observers. Great work, guys.
I literally posted the cspan video
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Fact checkers debunk MK’s claim that Biden fell asleep in Bennett meet
https://www.timesofisrael.com/fact-checkers-debunk-mks-claim-that-biden-fell-asleep-in-bennett-meet/
No, Biden Didn’t Fall Asleep Listening to Israel’s Prime Minister.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-no-biden-didn-t-fall-asleep-with-israel-s-prime-minister-you-fell-for-fake-news-1.10165005
Both the North Korean and Iranian state media are also circulating the manipulated video. I’m reminded of the old adage: “you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep.”
I literally posted the cspan footage, go watch it with your own lying eyes
Or just ignore it and post a bunch of jewish media links lol
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What a fucking turd.
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What a fucking turd.
I just noticed your sig. VERY NICE.
Bring back Trump, now THERE was a patriotic American President!
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Possible Joe was looking at his son Beau’s rosary?
https://youtu.be/72oO7R0CxSo
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I just noticed your sig. VERY NICE.
haha
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Joe Biden is an old man and may fall asleep occasionally: story at 11.
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Bring back Trump, now THERE was a patriotic American President!
Just curious, can Biden be assessed based on his own merits/actions? Or does every/any criticism have to be compared to the prior prez?
I didn't say shit about Trump.
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I literally posted the cspan footage, go watch it with your own lying eyes
Or just ignore it and post a bunch of jewish media links lol
Ah yes, open anti Semitism. A good way to bring others to your view.
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What a fucking turd.
Why in the world would “glanced at his watch” be a valid criticism? That’s ridiculous. Especially in contrast to the non-existent standards so many had for the last guy. I would never criticize Trump for glancing at his watch, that’s an absurd thing to fake outrage about.
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Why in the world would “glanced at his watch” be a valid criticism? That’s ridiculous. Especially in contrast to the non-existent standards so many had for the last guy.
In the context of that particular situation, that moment, it's a terrible optic. Read any of the comments from the fallen soldier's families?
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Just curious, can Biden be assessed based on his own merits/actions? Or does every/any criticism have to be compared to the prior prez?
I didn't say shit about Trump.
Not when the previous president was immune from similar criticism. So, the answer is no.
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Ah yes, open anti Semitism. A good way to bring others to your view.
pointing out that the two links he posted are literally jewish media (timesofisrael.com and haaretz.com) is not anti semetic
unless you're a complete fucktard, which I think is the case here
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I would never criticize Trump for glancing at his watch, that’s an absurd thing to fake outrage about.
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During a solar eclipse, because during a solar eclipse you should look at the sun
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Q thinks there's some kind of equivalency or comparative value between the aberration of the previous administration, an ongoing criminal conspiracy, and the current (or any previous) presidential administration.
Because he's crazy.
And, as he confirmed last week, because he doesn't actually follow the news.
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Word on the street is that the watch is one of those heart rate monitors, and Joe was checking to see if he was still alive.
On par with wearing a tan suit and liking dijon mustard.
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pointing out that the two links he posted are literally jewish media (timesofisrael.com and haaretz.com) is not anti semetic
unless you're a complete fucktard, which I think is the case here
I think the point is they are Israeli media....but isn't every media "Jewish" media anyway? And the banks.
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Biden has always been a gaffe machine. He was never the brightest bulb in the box. He is / was a good politician and ego stroker who won friends and got things done.
Trump, otoh, is more of a classic bully who screws people over, takes credit when things work, and shifts blame for failures.
wtf is wrong is wrong with America that we elect strokers and bullies?
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IF he looked at his watch like that, it is inappropriate. I have no clue if he did or didn't. And, as we have seen, the Soviet sympathisizers here have no problem circulating fake photos.
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Q thinks there's some kind of equivalency or comparative value between the aberration of the previous administration, an ongoing criminal conspiracy, and the current (or any previous) presidential administration.
Because he's crazy.
And, as he confirmed last week, because he doesn't actually follow the news.
Ironically he seems to be one of about three or four of us here who actually measure Biden against our expectations of a President rather than the actions/rhetoric of the former President.
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Q thinks there's some kind of equivalency or comparative value between the aberration of the previous administration, an ongoing criminal conspiracy, and the current (or any previous) presidential administration.
Because he's crazy.
And, as he confirmed last week, because he doesn't actually follow the news.
well we're about 8 months in and Joe is doing a far worse job for most Americans than the big fat orange man who shall not be named
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Ironically he seems to be one of about three or four of us here who actually measure Biden against our expectations of a President rather than the actions/rhetoric of the former President.
Gosh, that's imputing a whole lot of intellectual analysis into one Brady Bunch gif.
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well we're about 8 months in and Joe is doing a far worse job for most Americans than the big fat orange man who shall not be named
You don't follow the news, remember?
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Ironically he seems to be one of about three or four of us here who actually measure Biden against our expectations of a President rather than the actions/rhetoric of the former President.
Funny how Golf only applies those presidency “expectations” to Democrats. The guy’s clearly suffering from Trump Deprivation Syndrome.
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Ironically he seems to be one of about three or four of us here who actually measure Biden against our expectations of a President rather than the actions/rhetoric of the former President.
I just watched a decent segment with Ari Melber and Michael Moore. Which is a pretty high bar for those two to clear, Melber is a constant interrupter and Moore is a bit of a loose cannon.
But when you get down to it, Moore was 100% right on this one the whole time. We invaded the Middle East and not only did we get nothing for it, the region is arguably worse off than before. What's the positive? Bin Laden is dead? If we threw 20 billion into special forces, we could have got that guy anyway, hell just bribe a bunch of Al Qaeda people, eventually one would do the deed.
Moore was slobbering all sorts of praise onto Biden, noting he campaigned against Biden in the primaries. Pulling out of Afghanistan was a tough call, and as Moore points out, there was gonna be an attack or two and some soldiers and civilians would die. And the optics of that are terrible.
We lost 13 in that suicide bombing at the airport. But... when you are the GM at the top, it comes down to wins against replacement. Had we not pulled out, we would have already lost a couple soldiers, and if we stay there another year, we lose a lot more than 13. The tough spot for the guy at the top is that this is no solace to the families of the 13 who died, nor will you get any credit from the families of the soldiers who turn out to not die in the first place. Pulling out was sick and messy but in the years to come we'll be better off.
They also go into the cost, and what we'd do with all that money, which is a bit of sleight of hand, because the shareholders and CEO's of the defense companies don't keep every dollar, the money does funnel down into jobs/etc.... but we probably get more long term value from paying soldiers to do hand work on wildfires here or do relief efforts in New Orleans.
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You don't follow the news, remember?
I can look at a gas pump
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I can look at a gas pump
All day, I'd bet.
You know why gas prices went up, right?
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I'm just kidding. You don't know shit.
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settle down sally you're getting too worked up
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I enjoy ridiculing you for being a brainless dipshit. It doesn't cause any problems with blood pressure, and requires little energy.
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well we're about 8 months in and Joe is doing a far worse job for most Americans than the big fat orange man who shall not be named
Not sure about that, but ok.
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I just watched a decent segment with Ari Melber and Michael Moore. Which is a pretty high bar for those two to clear, Melber is a constant interrupter and Moore is a bit of a loose cannon.
But when you get down to it, Moore was 100% right on this one the whole time. We invaded the Middle East and not only did we get nothing for it, the region is arguably worse off than before. What's the positive? Bin Laden is dead? If we threw 20 billion into special forces, we could have got that guy anyway, hell just bribe a bunch of Al Qaeda people, eventually one would do the deed.
Moore was slobbering all sorts of praise onto Biden, noting he campaigned against Biden in the primaries. Pulling out of Afghanistan was a tough call, and as Moore points out, there was gonna be an attack or two and some soldiers and civilians would die. And the optics of that are terrible.
We lost 13 in that suicide bombing at the airport. But... when you are the GM at the top, it comes down to wins against replacement. Had we not pulled out, we would have already lost a couple soldiers, and if we stay there another year, we lose a lot more than 13. The tough spot for the guy at the top is that this is no solace to the families of the 13 who died, nor will you get any credit from the families of the soldiers who turn out to not die in the first place. Pulling out was sick and messy but in the years to come we'll be better off.
They also go into the cost, and what we'd do with all that money, which is a bit of sleight of hand, because the shareholders and CEO's of the defense companies don't keep every dollar, the money does funnel down into jobs/etc.... but we probably get more long term value from paying soldiers to do hand work on wildfires here or do relief efforts in New Orleans.
I love analysis like this. Know what we got out of it? One dead bin Laden and those Muslims who are wack job religious lunatics fighting each other so much that even some of them are now making nice with Israel because they hate the "other wack jobs" more than they even hate the Israelis.
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I enjoy ridiculing you for being a brainless dipshit. It doesn't cause any problems with blood pressure, and requires little energy.
you're just jealous of my success, quit being a hater, life is too short
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I don't know of any success. I know you're a brainwashed loser, that's about it.
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I don't know of any success. I know you're a brainwashed loser, that's about it.
😂 the irony
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So, what are your successes? What have you accomplished?
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So, what are your successes? What have you accomplished?
He's accomplished getting your attention?
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So, what are your successes? What have you accomplished?
Definitely got your panties in a twist 😂
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So, nothing?
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Mn, news related to Hunter's lap top!
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/judge-dismisses-hunter-biden-laptop-guys-defamation-lawsuit-with-prejudice-forces-him-to-pay-twitters-attorneys-fees-under-anti-slapp-law/
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Mn, news related to Hunter's lap top!
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/judge-dismisses-hunter-biden-laptop-guys-defamation-lawsuit-with-prejudice-forces-him-to-pay-twitters-attorneys-fees-under-anti-slapp-law/
We will not 'say his name' nor will we allow this hacker's unverified Russian disinformation, that is not hacked material nor Russian disinformation, on our website.
It's a shame that the hacker received death threats, closed his shop and left town over attempting to release Russian disinformation. We have destroyed his name, that we didnt say, and he should pay our court costs.
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That's only true if you live in Texas.
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https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/10/05/video-loud-fk-joe-biden-chant-yet-breaks-out-at-titans-jets-game/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3FUHAwwENtojhQMpvsHa4l23PHHaiU_f3aP7pOyLTPdBBu4fWLpgmARQg
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https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/10/05/video-loud-fk-joe-biden-chant-yet-breaks-out-at-titans-jets-game/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3FUHAwwENtojhQMpvsHa4l23PHHaiU_f3aP7pOyLTPdBBu4fWLpgmARQg
They are Jets fans afterall.
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https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/10/05/video-loud-fk-joe-biden-chant-yet-breaks-out-at-titans-jets-game/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3FUHAwwENtojhQMpvsHa4l23PHHaiU_f3aP7pOyLTPdBBu4fWLpgmARQg
Fake news.
They're yellng 'let's go Brandon'
https://twitter.com/i/status/1444460915802484737
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Fake news.
They're yellng 'let's go Brandon'
https://twitter.com/i/status/1444460915802484737
Yeah, that interviewer gal - fucking clueless.
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Fake news.
They're yellng 'let's go Brandon'
https://twitter.com/i/status/1444460915802484737
They must really like Brandon. Who is he?
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They must really like Brandon. Who is he?
He's the new idol.
Where you been ?
Let's go Brandon cheers started a while ago. Before his 1st win.
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He's the new idol.
Where you been ?
Let's go Brandon cheers started a while ago. Before his 1st win.
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I don't watch those singing shows.
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I don't watch those singing shows.
Do you go to school board meetings ?
Let's go Brandon cheers may start showing up there.
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Do you go to school board meetings ?
Let's go Brandon cheers may start showing up there.
The odds of anything positive, smart or educational happening at a school board meeting is nil.
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The odds of anything positive, smart or educational happening at a school board meeting is nil.
There's apparently enough going on for Merrick Garland to be concerned about all of the domestic terrorists, read moms, showing up at meetings
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There's apparently enough going on for Merrick Garland to be concerned about all of the domestic terrorists, read moms, showing up at meetings
School board group asks US for help policing threats
“A group representing school board members around the country asked President Joe Biden on Thursday for federal assistance to investigate and stop threats made over policies including mask mandates, likening the vitriol to a form of domestic terrorism.”
“The letter documents more than 20 instances of threats, harassment, disruption, and acts of intimidation in California, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Ohio and other states. It cites the September arrest of an Illinois man for aggravated battery and disorderly conduct for allegedly striking a school official at a meeting. In Michigan, a meeting was disrupted when a man performed a Nazi salute to protest masking.”
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-health-education-school-boards-940da42fac771366929fc2150c8acf4d
Lock em up!
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There's apparently enough going on for Merrick Garland to be concerned about all of the domestic terrorists, read moms, showing up at meetings
I think you just proved my point
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School board group asks US for help policing threats
“A group representing school board members around the country asked President Joe Biden on Thursday for federal assistance to investigate and stop threats made over policies including mask mandates, likening the vitriol to a form of domestic terrorism.”
“The letter documents more than 20 instances of threats, harassment, disruption, and acts of intimidation in California, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Ohio and other states. It cites the September arrest of an Illinois man for aggravated battery and disorderly conduct for allegedly striking a school official at a meeting. In Michigan, a meeting was disrupted when a man performed a Nazi salute to protest masking.”
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-health-education-school-boards-940da42fac771366929fc2150c8acf4d
Lock em up!
Moms and Dads show up with concerns about the school curriculums, Covid policies and the Board's performance and how they impact the kids; and the DOJ should investigate the parents.
Cool.
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Moms and Dads show up with concerns about the school curriculums, Covid policies and the Board's performance and how they impact the kids; and the DOJ should investigate the parents.
Cool.
I heard there are good people on both sides of the "is it ok to assault teachers, administrators, and school board members?" debate.
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Too bad the DOJ can't go after these parents!
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/parents-principal-iron-maiden/
Parents Trying to Remove School Principal for Iron Maiden Signage
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Too bad the DOJ can't go after these parents!
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/parents-principal-iron-maiden/
Parents Trying to Remove School Principal for Iron Maiden Signage
I think the students can probably handle it, without intervention from a foreign country.
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Moms and Dads show up with concerns about the school curriculums, Covid policies and the Board's performance and how they impact the kids; and the DOJ should investigate the parents.
Cool.
Nice attempt trying to normalize death threats, violence and intimidation against school board members, educators and public health officials. Why am I not surprised?
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-10-05/covid-vaccine-mask-fury-shakes-up-california-schools
https://www.njspotlight.com/video/threats-to-nj-school-board-members-over-masks-covid-19-rules/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-increasingly-wild-world-of-school-board-meetings
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/10/extreme-opposition-to-school-mask-mandates-target-michigan-health-officials-with-threats-of-violence.html
Mommies and daddies behaving badly. Lock them up!
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Mostly peaceful protests. They're just using the wrong tactics.
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Mostly peaceful protests. They're just using the wrong tactics.
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You won't find me normalizing arson, defacement and property damage.
Lock them up!
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I think the students can probably handle it, without intervention from a foreign country.
Iron Maiden is a foreign country?
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Iron Maiden is a foreign country?
It's foreign to me. Is it heavy metal ?
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Border Crisi: "Shortly after President Biden took office in 2021, he rolled back strict immigration policies instituted by his predecessor ... "... Biden's Border Crisis ... https://nypost.com/2021/09/04/inside-bidens-border-crisis-in-new-mexico/
Labor shortage crisis: "This jobs report shows what employers all over the country have been saying for months: the labor shortage is getting worse," Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/republicans-biden-jobs-report-marty-walsh
How are these 2 two linked? The labor shortage is largely concentrated in arts, entertainment and recreation; leisure and hospitality; and accommodation and food services.
The far right radicals are blaming expanded unemployment benefits that allow lazy bums to sit home on their butts.
Progressives blame low wages and a lack of child care.
Biden can't say it, or even imply it, but much if not most of this service sector labor scarcity is related to "Trump administration decisions to close legal immigration avenues in the pandemic's early months, while also tightening rules and enforcement of undocumented immigration."
https://www.axios.com/immigration-labor-shortage-fc4134fb-2d44-4c8d-afa7-eff46bf1741d.html
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Border Crisi: "Shortly after President Biden took office in 2021, he rolled back strict immigration policies instituted by his predecessor ... "... Biden's Border Crisis ... https://nypost.com/2021/09/04/inside-bidens-border-crisis-in-new-mexico/
Labor shortage crisis: "This jobs report shows what employers all over the country have been saying for months: the labor shortage is getting worse," Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/republicans-biden-jobs-report-marty-walsh
How are these 2 two linked? The labor shortage is largely concentrated in arts, entertainment and recreation; leisure and hospitality; and accommodation and food services.
The far right radicals are blaming expanded unemployment benefits that allow lazy bums to sit home on their butts.
Progressives blame low wages and a lack of child care.
Biden can't say it, or even imply it, but much if not most of this service sector labor scarcity is related to "Trump administration decisions to close legal immigration avenues in the pandemic's early months, while also tightening rules and enforcement of undocumented immigration."
https://www.axios.com/immigration-labor-shortage-fc4134fb-2d44-4c8d-afa7-eff46bf1741d.html
Allowing unfettered access on the borders is not going to solve this issue.
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Border Crisi: "Shortly after President Biden took office in 2021, he rolled back strict immigration policies instituted by his predecessor ... "... Biden's Border Crisis ... https://nypost.com/2021/09/04/inside-bidens-border-crisis-in-new-mexico/
Labor shortage crisis: "This jobs report shows what employers all over the country have been saying for months: the labor shortage is getting worse," Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/republicans-biden-jobs-report-marty-walsh
How are these 2 two linked? The labor shortage is largely concentrated in arts, entertainment and recreation; leisure and hospitality; and accommodation and food services.
The far right radicals are blaming expanded unemployment benefits that allow lazy bums to sit home on their butts.
Progressives blame low wages and a lack of child care.
Biden can't say it, or even imply it, but much if not most of this service sector labor scarcity is related to "Trump administration decisions to close legal immigration avenues in the pandemic's early months, while also tightening rules and enforcement of undocumented immigration."
https://www.axios.com/immigration-labor-shortage-fc4134fb-2d44-4c8d-afa7-eff46bf1741d.html
pretty sure people would rather sit at home and collect unemployment than work some shitty service job and dealing with all the retarded covid rules too for no extra pay
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It’s not hard to figure this out.
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Border Crisi: "Shortly after President Biden took office in 2021, he rolled back strict immigration policies instituted by his predecessor ... "... Biden's Border Crisis ... https://nypost.com/2021/09/04/inside-bidens-border-crisis-in-new-mexico/
Labor shortage crisis: "This jobs report shows what employers all over the country have been saying for months: the labor shortage is getting worse," Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/republicans-biden-jobs-report-marty-walsh
How are these 2 two linked? The labor shortage is largely concentrated in arts, entertainment and recreation; leisure and hospitality; and accommodation and food services.
The far right radicals are blaming expanded unemployment benefits that allow lazy bums to sit home on their butts.
Progressives blame low wages and a lack of child care.
Biden can't say it, or even imply it, but much if not most of this service sector labor scarcity is related to "Trump administration decisions to close legal immigration avenues in the pandemic's early months, while also tightening rules and enforcement of undocumented immigration."
https://www.axios.com/immigration-labor-shortage-fc4134fb-2d44-4c8d-afa7-eff46bf1741d.html
I think the labor market shortage is a little more complicated.
To paraphrase from financial columnist Barry Ritholtz:
• Household balance sheets are as cash rich and debt managed as ever;
• 18 months of remote work have changed peoples’ perception of their jobs;
• The jobs that are available and the ones workers want to do are a mismatch;
• Early retirement is pulling workers away from the labor market;
• A lot of us are at home dealing with aging parents;
• Affordable childcare remains a challenge in most of the country;
• Covid-19 is still viewed as a threat to frontline workers.
I noticed in some states where UI benefits were cut, there was no race back to the job market.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/22/cuts-to-unemployment-benefits-didnt-get-people-back-to-work-study-finds.html
Here’s my guess for “what the hell is happening” in the labor market: People (especially boomers) retired or quit and said “F it”, I don’t want to work with asshole customers anymore.
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pretty sure people would rather sit at home and collect unemployment than work some shitty service job and dealing with all the retarded covid rules too for no extra pay
Prematurely ending federal programs had little effect on employment but sharply cut spending, potentially hurting state economies, researchers say.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/business/economy/unemployment-benefits-economy-states.html
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pretty sure people would rather sit at home and collect unemployment than work some shitty service job and dealing with all the retarded covid rules too for no extra pay
Job data is already coming out, the states the pulled the unemployment payments aren't seeing an influx of workers because they aren't getting "easy money" anymore. And those are the same states that are forbidding "retarded covid rules"
The pandemic has really shown a lot of people that most of these jobs just aren't worth it, period. Large chunks of the low wage workforce is discretionary, maybe parents are figuring out that their kids really aren't "learning the value of hard work" getting $7 an hour at McDonalds, they are more likely to learn that "I had to work an hour of my life and didn't even end up with enough money to buy a Big Mac Combo. Screw it"
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I thought things were hunky dory.
POTUS : "Jobs up, wages up, unemployment down — that’s progress."
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Job data is already coming out, the states the pulled the unemployment payments aren't seeing an influx of workers because they aren't getting "easy money" anymore. And those are the same states that are forbidding "retarded covid rules"
The pandemic has really shown a lot of people that most of these jobs just aren't worth it, period. Large chunks of the low wage workforce is discretionary, maybe parents are figuring out that their kids really aren't "learning the value of hard work" getting $7 an hour at McDonalds, they are more likely to learn that "I had to work an hour of my life and didn't even end up with enough money to buy a Big Mac Combo. Screw it"
they are still paying unemployment just not the "enhanced" bullshit or whatever it was they were doing where they were making more than they ever did before with all the additional stimulus
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I thought things were hunky dory.
POTUS : "Jobs up, wages up, unemployment down — that’s progress."
It is strange when 4.8% unemplyment is considered dismal news. I still think I nailed it. There is a shortage of immigrants from shithole countries, both documented and undocumented, happy to work as dishwashers, buspersons, and so on. This is due to Trump's policies. The impact was not felt right right away because of the covid lockdowns.
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I love when Murph explains how poor people think
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There is a shortage of immigrants from shithole countries, both documented and undocumented, happy to work as dishwashers, buspersons, and so on.
what happened to all of the ones that were working before? Did they just fucking vanish, or are they all now bank managers?
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what happened to all of the ones that were working before? Did they just fucking vanish, or are they all now bank managers?
😂 poetry, fuckers!
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what happened to all of the ones that were working before? Did they just fucking vanish, or are they all now bank managers?
Some learned how to code.
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what happened to all of the ones that were working before? Did they just fucking vanish, or are they all now bank managers?
Poetry !
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I love when Murph explains how poor people think
By Murph do you mean the persons who wrote the two articles posted just before my post?
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what happened to all of the ones that were working before? Did they just fucking vanish, or are they all now bank managers?
Employment shortages work on the margins. If 5% either die or leave, and aren't replaced, it's just 5% but that's enough to completely screw up the labor force
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what happened to all of the ones that were working before? Did they just fucking vanish, or are they all now bank managers?
Deported
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they are still paying unemployment just not the "enhanced" bullshit or whatever it was they were doing where they were making more than they ever did before with all the additional stimulus
I am.sure you are aware the enhancements amounted to more than just an extra 300 a week.
They also extended benefits beyond 26 weeks etc. Also covered workers normally not eligible such as part timers, self employed, independent contractors, ...
A lot of people were cut off last month, or in June in half the states.
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I am.sure you are aware the enhancements amounted to more than just an extra 300 a week.
They also extended benefits beyond 26 weeks etc. Also covered workers normally not eligible such as part timers, self employed, independent contractors, ...
A lot of people were cut off last month, or in June in half the states.
yeah no shit thats why I said additional stimulus
might want to read your bolded part again
we shall see how long these extra savings lasts people, my guess is that people really start getting back to work due to desperation in 2Q 2022
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yeah no shit thats why I said additional stimulus
might want to read your bolded part again
we shall see how long these extra savings lasts people, my guess is that people really start getting back to work due to desperation in 2Q 2022
If it costs them more to get child care and transportation than a job makes, nobody is going to go into the hole to flip burgers
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Florida is short more than 5,000 teachers, education group says
Was it DeSantis’ vaccine mandate or his overly generous unemployment?
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Florida is short more than 5,000 teachers, education group says
Was it DeSantis’ vaccine mandate or his overly generous unemployment?
I have a blood relative who abandoned a Florida teaching job because of the anti-mandate mandate.
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I have a blood relative who abandoned a Florida teaching job because of the anti-mandate mandate.
Good
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Trump deported all the teachers.
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Nice attempt trying to normalize death threats, violence and intimidation against school board members, educators and public health officials. Why am I not surprised?
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-10-05/covid-vaccine-mask-fury-shakes-up-california-schools
https://www.njspotlight.com/video/threats-to-nj-school-board-members-over-masks-covid-19-rules/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-increasingly-wild-world-of-school-board-meetings
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/10/extreme-opposition-to-school-mask-mandates-target-michigan-health-officials-with-threats-of-violence.html
Mommies and daddies behaving badly. Lock them up!
A little more on your mommies and daddies acting badly and footnote 13 re Loudon county, assuming the Loudon County superintendent is a daddy ........
From Luke Rosiak
To pass the school board's proposed trans-gender equity policy which included using the bathroom the students identify with, " On June 22, Superintendent Scott Ziegler told the public, “To my knowledge, we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms.”
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The superintendent said the sheriff's office had the alleged offender transferred to another school in the district as a result of the incident. The sheriff's office denies that.
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And from Newsweek 10-13,
During the June 22 meeting in which Smith was arrested after being dragged out, superintendent Scott Ziegler dismissed any concerns about assaults on school grounds allegedly committed by transgender students.
"I think it's important to keep our perspective on this, we've heard it several times tonight from our public speakers, but the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist."
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Joe might have some problems with the Democratic Caucus this morning, but he can head off to Glasgow with Let's Go Brandon as the #1 song on ITunes. And the #2 song, and the #4 song, and the #7 song.
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Joe might have some problems with the Democratic Caucus this morning, but he can head off to Glasgow with Let's Go Brandon as the #1 song on ITunes. And the #2 song, and the #4 song, and the #7 song.
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We need someone to make an HQ2 "Let's Go [Jobu/Tempo]" Illini t shirt. Where is Smitty to do the design?
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It's foreign to me. Is it heavy metal ?
Dude hasn’t heard of Iron Maiden? You’re either 19 or 90.
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Harris to be first woman to take U.S. presidential reins as Biden undergoes colonoscopy
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-transfer-power-harris-during-colonoscopy-friday-white-house-2021-11-19/
Let the executive orders begin!
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Harris to be first woman to take U.S. presidential reins as Biden undergoes colonoscopy
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-transfer-power-harris-during-colonoscopy-friday-white-house-2021-11-19/
Let the executive orders begin!
Let’s have a Black Panther Party!
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I thought they extended the student loan relief.
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I thought they extended the student loan relief.
Just announced after lots of anger
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I thought they extended the student loan relief.
They did.
I'm guessing someone complained.
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Well, considering he hasn’t held up on his student loan relief promises (shocker), it’s the least they could do.
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There was a time when you could pay your way through college by working part-time and living hand-to-mouth, but that is a distant memory.
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While we are at it, how many of The COVID dead on Biden's watch, since the vax, were unvaxxed?
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There was a time when you could pay your way through college by working part-time and living hand-to-mouth, but that is a distant memory.
People probably still can if they choose colleges that haven’t morphed into extravagant 4 year summer camps.
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While we're at it ....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1438833361506775042
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While we're at it ....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1438833361506775042
😂🤣 oops 🙊
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While we're at it ....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1438833361506775042
And the reaction was completely valid based on what we have learned, even this week, about what Trump was doing behind the scenes.
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And the reaction was completely valid based on what we have learned, even this week, about what Trump was doing behind the scenes.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on the first part. And what have we learned, even this week ?
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We'll just have to agree to disagree on the first part. And what have we learned, even this week ?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/house-investigation-uncovers-trump-era-covid-chaos
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/house-investigation-uncovers-trump-era-covid-chaos
Discusses some of the same memos tossed around here last week.
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/house-investigation-uncovers-trump-era-covid-chaos
Did the author see my posts about this last week, and decide to write a story ? Lol.
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Discusses some of the same memos tossed around here last week.
From the declaration ....
" this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine"
They were willing to accept the value of natural immunity, as opposed to those rejecting the value of an infection.
Maybe the two sides could have sat down, but 'noooooooo, I can't meet with those people'.
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From the declaration ....
" this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine"
They were willing to accept the value of natural immunity, as opposed to those rejecting the value of an infection.
Maybe the two sides could have sat down, but 'noooooooo, I can't meet with those people'.
All moot now. The anti-vaxxers are winning the war despite being in the minority. Kind of like the Bolsheviks in the Russian Revolution.
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Discusses some of the same memos tossed around here last week.
It hilarious how the author introduces Birx as Dr. Birx but uses plain names for the doctor authors of the GBD. It’s almost as funny as how people pretend only right wing news outlets willfully distort the news.
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It hilarious how the author introduces Birx as Dr. Birx but uses plain names for the doctor authors of the GBD. It’s almost as funny as how people pretend only right wing news outlets willfully distort the news.
Agree with you. Unless you have a honorary doctorate.
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While we're at it ....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1438833361506775042
These get twisted a lot but there was poor leadership from the Democrats, period. They tried some sort of "I trust Fauci, not Trump" spin here, but the vaccine wasn't being approved by Trump, it was the FDA and the CDC, and they had shown a willingness not to let Trump push them around.
There was no electoral calculus of merit here. Saying "I'm very excited that we've developed a vaccine and that the Trump administration gave Moderna, J&J, and Pfizer added resources to make it happen and supported the FDA/CDC in testing and approval" would not have lost an election. There were zero undecideds.
Then again there are a trivial amount of undecideds on taking a vaccine, so the whole drama is meaningless
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Let's not pretend that the odds are pretty good that the "vaccination shoes" would be reversed in quite a few instances if Trump had won the election.
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Let's not pretend that the odds are pretty good that the "vaccination shoes" would be reversed in quite a few instances if Trump had won the election.
that's like a double positive and a double negative all wrapped in one
unroll it please
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that's like a double positive and a double negative all wrapped in one
unroll it please
Here you go, if Trump won the election,
1. IlliniGolf would be touting the vax and boosters;
2. Tempo would be skeptical and refuse to get the vax and boosters; and
3. Custard would get the vax and boosters, and then bitch about Big Pharma and Trump ordering everyone to get the vax and boosters.
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Here you go, if Trump won the election,
1. IlliniGolf would be touting the vax and boosters;
2. Tempo would be skeptical and refuse to get the vax and boosters; and
3. Custard would get the vax and boosters, and then bitch about Big Pharma and Trump ordering everyone to get the vax and boosters.
Those three are about as poor a sample set for the US population as any.
Trump was president when masking was a thing, yet the liberals wore masks and the Trumpists protested the masks
State rules very closely followed the party holding the Governor's mansion, and compliance mirrored at a county level with those voting for Biden more closely following protocols
As crazy as Trump seems, his base is crazier and he follows the base, not the other way around
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Here you go, if Trump won the election,
1. IlliniGolf would be touting the vax and boosters;
2. Tempo would be skeptical and refuse to get the vax and boosters; and
3. Custard would get the vax and boosters, and then bitch about Big Pharma and Trump ordering everyone to get the vax and boosters.
#eyeroll
I’d be heeding the advice of medical experts. Not knee jerk reacting to Donald Trump’s views on vaccines.
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Those three are about as poor a sample set for the US population as any.
Trump was president when masking was a thing, yet the liberals wore masks and the Trumpists protested the masks
State rules very closely followed the party holding the Governor's mansion, and compliance mirrored at a county level with those voting for Biden more closely following protocols
As crazy as Trump seems, his base is crazier and he follows the base, not the other way around
As for the masks, Trump was anti-mask. Of course the anti-Trumpers would wear masks
If he were President, he would be touting "his" vaccine daily.
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#eyeroll
I’d be heeding the advice of medical experts. Not knee jerk reacting to Donald Trump’s views on vaccines.
You would accuse him and Surgeon General Dr. Oz of rigging everything.
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PAMan is on a roll here.
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People here are amused by the stupidest things.
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People here are amused by the stupidest things.
You can’t laugh at yourself, which makes you the butt of such jokes at a higher frequency than anyone else on this board.
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PAMan is on a roll here.
Grazie, grazie.
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You can’t laugh at yourself, which makes you the butt of such jokes at a higher frequency than anyone else on this board.
I laugh at myself all the time. I’ve even made threads memeing myself. You guys just think the stupidest shit is actually funny.
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Occasionally the Reggie Theus jokes are funny. Has a high miss rate, but there’s even been a few good “3 to 5 minutes” jokes over the years.
“Tempo knee jerk reacting to Trump and Dr. Oz,” not particularly funny.
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“Tempo knee jerk reacting to Trump and Dr. Oz,” not particularly funny.
But probably true! But maybe not.
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But probably true! But maybe not.
Not really an absolutist. Never have been.
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But probably true! But maybe not.
Also, not particularly funny.
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I’ve even made threads memeing myself.
How should we differentiate between Tempo being Tempo and Tempo pretending to be Tempo?
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I laugh at myself all the time. I’ve even made threads memeing myself. You guys just think the stupidest shit is actually funny.
Say something funny, so that we can all understand what the universal meaning of funny is. Please.
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How should we differentiate between Tempo being Tempo and Tempo pretending to be Tempo?
Common sense should be applied
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How should we differentiate between Tempo being Tempo and Tempo pretending to be Tempo?
How should we differentiate between the Goodyear Blimp, and you pretending to be the Goodyear Blimp?
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Common sense should be applied
Do you associate with/subscribe to a religion?
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Do you associate with/subscribe to a religion?
I’d be surprised if ‘97 is religious. He’s wackadoodle, but not that kind of wackadoodle.
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He has, to put it charitably, the most uncommon sense on the board.
But sincerely religious people tend to believe that their particular variety of mental illness is "common sense." So I wondered.
My thesis here relies on my contention that most people who involve themselves in organized religion are apatheists. They don't care whether the tenets are true. If they attend church it's for social, cultural, family and/or (most importantly) business purposes.
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Do you associate with/subscribe to a religion?
I was the one that introduced you to the FSM, bless his noodly appendage
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I was the one that introduced you to the FSM
I was touched by his noodly appendage.
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I was touched by his noodly appendage.
rAmen!
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Lol
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I was the one that introduced you to the FSM, bless his noodly appendage
Nonsense. I read about Bobby Henderson's letter to the school board before I ever joined an Illini basketball forum.
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Nonsense. I read about Bobby Henderson's letter to the school board before I ever joined an Illini basketball forum.
I think the letter was 2005. You weren’t on a forum before then?
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Correct.
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Nonsense. I read about Bobby Henderson's letter to the school board before I ever joined an Illini basketball forum.
Huh the Mandela effect is strange isn't it
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Republicand keep spreading the lie that government spending causes inflation. The bulk of current inflation is global and has to do covid related factors.
Part of it is unique to the US and is due to labor shortages driving up.wages. There is apparently no wage factor in global inflation because the rest of the developed world already pays an acceptable wage?
Demand for oil cratered in 2020, causing lower prices. So producers cut back supply. Then demand increased last year, driving up prices. Now they are cautiously increasing production.
Republicans are blaming Biden for cancelling keystone xl and new drilling on public land. They are predicting and hoping prices stay high and even increase through November.
Supply chain bottlenecks are a big part of inflation too. Republicans have to hope they don't resolve before the fall elections.
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In addition to other sources, pretty sure massive government programs pumping money into economy does have an impact.
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In addition to other sources, pretty sure massive government programs pumping money into economy does have an impact.
It does. It creates demand for goods and services. Under normal circumstances, this creates jobs to provide those goods and services. Expansion of low income refundable tax credits drove economic growth during the Reagan and Clinton years.
Inflation starting falling during Reagan's first term and kept falling until the covid recovery bottlenecks. It fell despite massive government spending and QE after the Great Recession of 2007 and 2008.
Republicans are ecstatic that inflation finally coincided with deficit spending.
Still, coincidence does not prove causation.
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Mn, is the Biden presser still going on?
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Mn, is the Biden presser still going on?
I was sleeping when you asked, but today's fishwrap labeled it an "expansive news conference" and a "two-hour defense", not a presser.
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Had a hilarious dream last night. Dreamt I was inside the White House and finagled my way into an area I wasn’t supposed to be in and stumbled upon Joe Biden”/ orphaned 2 year old grandson (he doesn’t have one obviously) and he was sitting inside what was basically a large cubby hole by a window. He seemed he wasn’t being well attended to and he told me he was thirsty and I’m traipsing around the commissary and back halls of the White House with no authorization to be there trying to find him a juice box lol
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I think it’s rooted in a time I was in the US Capitol building and roaming around in lonely back halls not sure if I was somewhere I wasn’t supposed to be.
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I think it’s rooted in a time I was in the US Capitol building and roaming around in lonely back halls not sure if I was somewhere I wasn’t supposed to be.
Morning insurrerection
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Morning insurrerection
More like a morning erection over an insurrection.
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I had a Senate press pass in 1993.
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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1483912462118359044
BIDEN: "The bottom line: If price increases are what you’re worried about, the best answer is my 'Build Back Better' plan."
I don't think this guy knows how economics works
or that his "plan" was shot down weeks ago lol
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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1483912462118359044
I don't think this guy knows how economics works
or that his "plan" was shot down weeks ago lol
Right. Helping the wealthy by privatizing profits and socializing losses is good for the economy. But helping ordinary folks causes inflation. The far right has pushed this bullshit theory for decades, despite a total lack of supporting empirical evidence, and plenty to the contrary.
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Right. Helping the wealthy by privatizing profits and socializing losses is good for the economy. But helping ordinary folks causes inflation. The far right has pushed this bullshit theory for decades, despite a total lack of supporting empirical evidence, and plenty to the contrary.
Ding!
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Right. Helping the wealthy by privatizing profits and socializing losses is good for the economy. But helping ordinary folks causes inflation. The far right has pushed this bullshit theory for decades, despite a total lack of supporting empirical evidence, and plenty to the contrary.
how exactly is a massive pork bill going to do jack shit for "ordinary folks"
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Someone want to explain “The New Deal” to ‘97?
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Someone want to explain “The New Deal” to ‘97?
pearls ... swine?
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Had a hilarious dream last night. Dreamt I was inside the White House and finagled my way into an area I wasn’t supposed to be in and stumbled upon Joe Biden”/ orphaned 2 year old grandson (he doesn’t have one obviously) and he was sitting inside what was basically a large cubby hole by a window. He seemed he wasn’t being well attended to and he told me he was thirsty and I’m traipsing around the commissary and back halls of the White House with no authorization to be there trying to find him a juice box lol
Don't go into comedy, son.
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More like a morning erection over an insurrection.
Good one! Now this is comedy.
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Don't go into comedy, son.
More hilariously random than hilariously haha….
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More hilariously random than hilariously haha….
Stick with the video games, kid.
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Stick with the video games, kid.
Ok, sock.
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Ok, sock.
"Sock?" I'll give you a sock, cracker. A sock in the face.
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At the end of a Biden photo op, when reporters shouted Q's hoping he'd respond, Fox's Peter Doocy asked, "Do you think inflation is a political liability in the midterms?" Biden deadpanned: "It's a great asset—more inflation. What a stupid son of a bitch."
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1485741499283296265?s=20
lol good ol' Twilight Joe
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When you're President, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the Doocy.
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*like*
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Look on the bright side. If Trump was still president the US would be mounting a joint invasion of Ukraine with Putin.
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Look on the bright side. If Trump was still president the US would be mounting a joint invasion of Ukraine with Putin.
Keep talking about Trump to distract from the current shit show kikebot 9000
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Meyers Leonard?
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Meyers Leonard?
Guessing the beer was flowing at the Reno bowling alley.
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Kamala Harris?
oh wait she doesn't check any of those boxes except for one
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Kamala Harris?
oh wait she doesn't check any of those boxes except for one
Candace Owens…
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Candace Owens…
Total idiot.
.https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1093923658446323712?t=jxxBsMQbORdVCuxNbDo_Mw&s=19
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Correct
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Total idiot.
.https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1093923658446323712?t=jxxBsMQbORdVCuxNbDo_Mw&s=19
Is she making the argument she's supposed to move to Namibia?
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https://m.facebook.com/1537954859/posts/10226645817761782/?d=n
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Ok that’s funny even though this thread is supposed to be what’s wrong with him today, pretty sure that’s old
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Ok that’s funny even though this thread is supposed to be what’s wrong with him today, pretty sure that’s old
You forget that Golf is even more doddering than Sleepy Joe.
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https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1498803452553482243?s=20&t=lpTqds0pQ2H8BYxLi4S7dA
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https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1498803452553482243?s=20&t=lpTqds0pQ2H8BYxLi4S7dA
Now that's funny
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a friend sent me this... wtf is pelosi doing at around 35 seconds hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy_MgY31owc
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a friend sent me this... wtf is pelosi doing at around 35 seconds hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy_MgY31owc
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'This president, I mean that President'
https://twitter.com/i/status/1499041200829087753
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a friend sent me this... wtf is pelosi doing at around 35 seconds hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy_MgY31owc
golds! golds! golds!
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Careful, you’re gonna hurt a bunch of feelings.
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She was probably thinking about how much money her old man made off that military contractor's stock due to her insider info.
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I wish that POS Pelosi would get lost. Total idiot. I don't understand how that idiot keeps getting re-elected. MANY idiots in her district,
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I wish that POS Pelosi would get lost. Total idiot. I don't understand how that idiot keeps getting re-elected. MANY idiots in her district,
The same is easily said about Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, and Kevin McCarthy
But the voters in their districts are being *smart* - you get a hell of a lot more support in $$$ for your district if your Rep is Speaker of the House than if it's Loeren Boebert. The landslide on I-70, in her district, was basically fixed because Governor Polis dealt with it because she was off preening around in tight jeans with a gun instead of going to congress to ask for disaster aid
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I would totally buttfuck Lauren Borebert !
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I would totally buttfuck Lauren Borebert !
She does not poop. She has no asshole!
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-the-news-thats-finally-fit-to-print-hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-new-york-times-joe-biden-11647637814
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-the-news-thats-finally-fit-to-print-hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-new-york-times-joe-biden-11647637814
Did these right wing nitwits even read the NYT article? Is all they got from it is that some of the emails have been authenticated? Do they give a snit about the content?
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I gave a snit about the content on the laptop.
I gave a snit about the suppression of reporting on the laptop.
And I still give a snit about both.
I just heard that the NYT authenticated Ashley Biden's diary also.
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lol
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I gave a snit about the content on the laptop.
I gave a snit about the suppression of reporting on the laptop.
And I still give a snit about both.
I just heard that the NYT authenticated Ashley Biden's diary also.
You had plenty of unsuppressed reporting on the laptop from Fox and NY Post.
I read the NYT article. If the wingnut take away is they are finally admitting some of the emails on the laptop are authentic; they need to get their heads out of the sand. Of course, this is the party that makes fun of being woke.
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You had plenty of unsuppressed reporting on the laptop from Fox and NY Post.
I read the NYT article. If the take away is they are finally admitting some of the emails on the laptop are authentic; they need to get their heads out of the sand.
Of course, this is the party that makes fun of being woke.
NYT and the left want to talk about disinformation and it influencing elections. Yet they purposely suppressed this information along with other news sources/media for that exact purpose.
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I gave a snit about the content on the laptop.
I gave a snit about the suppression of reporting on the laptop.
And I still give a snit about both.
I just heard that the NYT authenticated Ashley Biden's diary also.
Mn is our daily window into the "micro-furies" fueling the right-wing fever swamps.
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NYT and the left want to talk about disinformation and it influencing elections. Yet they purposely suppressed this information along with other news sources/media for that exact purpose.
How did the information published by the New York Post purportedly get from Hunter Biden to the paper?
Was that information legitimate?
Was the media’s skepticism about the chain of custody and the information warranted?
Was the social media blackout of the Post’s story warranted?
In this article, we’ll only look at the overlap of the first and third questions: Was the sourcing for information sufficiently dubious to justify caution by mainstream outlets? The answer, it seems clear, is yes.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
... the corporate media dismissed the Hunter Biden laptop story out of hand, refused to pursue it and even ran interference for then-candidate Biden when directly questioned on it by then-President Trump in debate.
https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-laptop-scandal-ultimate-american-information-operation-opinion-1690293
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Yet they’ll run and did run with any ole information (true or not, verified or not) regarding Trump before and after he was elected. See the double standard there?!
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From the Newsweek link ....
"Trump-Russia collusion was an American information operation.
Hunter Biden's laptop being "Russian disinformation" was an American information operation.
Phony stories, particularly those leaked out by our national security apparatus—like those of "Russian bounties in Afghanistan," or "Trump called dead American soldiers 'losers'"—are American information operations."
I think I said something like this here, a few days ago. 🤔
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Well…the US could drop "Fat Man" on Moscow.
No, not that Fat Man, I mean Donald Trump.
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The right wing media does the same thing on 'roids, except you won't find much dissent unless it is to say Fox and NY Post are too liberal. The MSM is biased, but not whack.
Read WAPO, NYT, the Hill, Politico. Forbes, National Review and a few more and you get a balanced take.
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From the Newsweek link ....
"Trump-Russia collusion was an American information operation.
Hunter Biden's laptop being "Russian disinformation" was an American information operation.
Phony stories, particularly those leaked out by our national security apparatus—like those of "Russian bounties in Afghanistan," or "Trump called dead American soldiers 'losers'"—are American information operations."
I think I said something like this here, a few days ago. 🤔
Hunter Biden's laptop was created in a lab in Wuhan, it didn't come from a pangolin like the CIA wants you to believe
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Hunter Biden's laptop was created in a lab in Wuhan, it didn't come from a pangolin like the CIA wants you to believe
Hunter had a lot of other things created in China. Million$ of them.
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Read WAPO, NYT, the Hill, Politico. Forbes, National Review and a few more and you get a balanced take.
How do you know?
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Hunter Biden's laptop was created in a lab in Wuhan, it didn't come from a pangolin like the CIA wants you to believe
Hunter’s laptop is the perfect wingnut placebo. It's whatever they want to think it is, like Benghazi, like Hillary's emails, like stolen elections, it's a “fantasy world, wrapped in horseshit, inside a mental illness, covering up a learning disability.”
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Hunter’s laptop is the perfect wingnut placebo. It's whatever they want to think it is, like Benghazi, like Hillary's emails, like stolen elections, it's a “fantasy world, wrapped in horseshit, inside a mental illness, covering up a learning disability.”
So you’ve seen it?
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How do you know?
Because I read them and they present a cross section of views. Someone who only listens to right wing talk radio, reads NY Post, and watches Fox News Channel are going to get a heavy dose of spin, posturing, and outright falsehoods.
Someone who only gets their news from left of center mainstream sources is not getting a complete picture either. Not so much blatant lies, but still a lot of spin and posturing.
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So you’ve seen it?
Have you ever been to Bombay?
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Hunter’s laptop is the perfect wingnut placebo. It's whatever they want to think it is, like Benghazi, like Hillary's emails, like stolen elections, it's a “fantasy world, wrapped in horseshit, inside a mental illness, covering up a learning disability.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin
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So you’ve seen it?
Sadly, I must answer "yes."
The laptop contains a video of Hillary discharging three bullets into the back of Vince Foster’s head, while eating pizza and forcing a naked child to eat a puppy. Obama could be seen in the background snorting cocaine off the torso of his radical Islamic imam boyfriend.
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Sadly, I must answer "yes."
The laptop contains a video of Hillary discharging three bullets into the back of Vince Foster’s head, while eating pizza and forcing a naked child to eat a puppy. Obama could be seen in the background snorting cocaine off the torso of his radical Islamic imam boyfriend.
Wow. And I thought "2 Girls, 1 Cup" was bad.
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33 billion to prolong the war in Ukraine? really?
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33 billion to prolong the war in Ukraine? really?
Fuck yeah, you little Putin suckup. Should be more. About time those Soviets are taught a lesson. Maybe the scumbag Chinese Commies will learn a lesson from this too. Probably not though.
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Fuck yeah, you little Putin suckup. Should be more. About time those Soviets are taught a lesson. Maybe the scumbag Chinese Commies will learn a lesson from this too. Probably not though.
I just think giving 33 billion to Nazis to fight in Ukraine is a poor use of funds that could be used for Americans instead
guess that makes me a Putin suckup
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I just think giving 33 billion to Nazis to fight in Ukraine is a poor use of funds that could be used for Americans instead
guess that makes me a Putin suckup
That is cute you think that money is going to "Americans." It is going to those who build the weapons. Plus you apparently want to make inflation worse? Nazis. Hilarious. Yeah the Z man over there is a Nazi. Comedian, sure. Stop watching Tucker Carlson or whomever is peddling this crap. You won't look as stupid.
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That is cute you think that money is going to "Americans." It is going to those who build the weapons. Plus you apparently want to make inflation worse? Nazis. Hilarious. Yeah the Z man over there is a Nazi. Comedian, sure. Stop watching Tucker Carlson or whomever is peddling this crap. You won't look as stupid.
Indeed. The Ukrainians aren't getting 33 billion dollars. They are getting a bunch of weapons. US Defense contractors got 33 billion dollars
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Some money is going to Ukraine, some for military, some for humanitarian reasons. Money is also going to NATO allies.
We'll also send weaponry, but no nuclear. Keep your fingers crossed.
"Another portion of the $33 billion is a sum of $8.5 billion to help support the Ukrainian economy.
That total will help fund Ukraine’s government, support food, energy and health care services for the Ukrainian people, and counter Russian disinformation and propaganda narratives, Biden said."
I wonder if they're sending our new Minister of Truth to address the disinfo and propaganda.
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Some money is going to Ukraine, some for military, some for humanitarian reasons. Money is also going to NATO allies.
We'll also send weaponry, but no nuclear. Keep your fingers crossed.
"Another portion of the $33 billion is a sum of $8.5 billion to help support the Ukrainian economy.
That total will help fund Ukraine’s government, support food, energy and health care services for the Ukrainian people, and counter Russian disinformation and propaganda narratives, Biden said."
I wonder if they're sending our new Minister of Truth to address the disinfo and propaganda.
who do you think they are buying the food from?
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I'll take it over the tweets of the last guy.
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Man it’s funny watching people prop up Biden like Weekend at Bernie’s, fall all over themselves to apologize for him, and normalize this situation just because he’s not Trump. And Biden’s backup is somehow even worse.
We are fighting a proxy war in Europe against the largest nuclear power in the world, have massive inflation, tons of cleanup to do from the aftermath of Covid and the lockdown nonsense, runaway government spending, and our elected leader is objectively senile.
But…
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Man it’s funny watching people prop up Biden like Weekend at Bernie’s, fall all over themselves to apologize for him, and normalize this situation just because he’s not Trump. And Biden’s backup is somehow even worse.
We are fighting a proxy war in Europe against the largest nuclear power in the world, have massive inflation, tons of cleanup to do from the aftermath of Covid and the lockdown nonsense, runaway government spending, and our elected leader is objectively senile.
But…
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Afuckingmen. It baffles me. At least we don’t have mean tweets 🥴
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I'll take it over the tweets of the last guy.
Thats strange, but ok
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Man it’s funny watching people prop up Biden like Weekend at Bernie’s, fall all over themselves to apologize for him, and normalize this situation just because he’s not Trump. And Biden’s backup is somehow even worse.
We are fighting a proxy war in Europe against the largest nuclear power in the world, have massive inflation, tons of cleanup to do from the aftermath of Covid and the lockdown nonsense, runaway government spending, and our elected leader is objectively senile.
But…
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wJPou1dis1l2OENxGZ/200.gif)
It's easy to toss spitballs from the cheap seats.
In case you haven't noticed, we've been fighting a proxy war, with a temporary pause in the early 90s, against Russia for the last 70 years. One could argue the seeds of the war were planted in 1917. The good news is that Europe, U.S. and others recognize that Putin's maniac territorial ambitions must be contained.
As to COVID, bad outcomes happen when you have a pandemic that has killed millions of people. All countries are struggling to put things back together. It's going to take time, certainly more than one news cycle.
"Massive inflation." Not as bad as I experienced in the 70s/80s, but still serious. Biden's not going to solve the problem by himself. It needs a fiscal policy fix, but Congress is too broken to achieve that. So we'll have to depend on monetary policy. That's a two-edged sword though. Higher fed rates come at a serious cost both in terms of deficits, e.g., US debt gets more expensive, and consumer borrowing costs skyrocket.
What needs to change is consumer preferences. We're living in an age of limitless consumption but finite supplies. The entire world is still largely living in a colonial-era expansionist mentality.
If you want prices to come down, buy less. Don't buy more than you need. Stop buying unnecessary crap you can do without, and stop taking unnecessary trips.
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It would be funny if not sad to see the right wing media cite the Fed on inflation while omitting details. Yes, they are now saying part of inflation is due to Covid relief spending. Not Biden's policies per se, but the Cares Act of 2020 and the American Rescue Act of 2021.
The massive influx of money into the economy may have contributed to an increase in core inflation from 2% to 5%. The remaining increase in the CPI is attributable to supply issues.
The other thing is, those relief acts prevented deflation; which would have been far worse.
Don't expect either party to try to explain any of that. The lying Republicans will blame Joe Biden's policies. The lying Democrats will blame Putin's war.
https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2022/march/why-is-us-inflation-higher-than-in-other-countries/
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What needs to change is consumer preferences. We're living in an age of limitless consumption but finite supplies. The entire world is still largely living in a colonial-era expansionist mentality.
If you want prices to come down, buy less. Don't buy more than you need. Stop buying unnecessary crap you can do without, and stop taking unnecessary trips.
I can hear the fox news reaction: "He's blaming working Americans!"
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I can hear the fox news reaction: "He's blaming working Americans!"
Well they wouldn’t be wrong. That’s exactly what that above is saying. Hard-working Americans should be able to buy whatever the fuck they want with their hard-earned money. Maybe the government should stop giving away fucking handouts to people not working and then making those other hard-working Americans pay for it.
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Well they wouldn’t be wrong. That’s exactly what that above is saying. Hard-working Americans should be able to buy whatever the fuck they want with their hard-earned money. Maybe the government should stop giving away fucking handouts to people not working and then making those other hard-working Americans pay for it.
Then there is reality. Hard earned money?
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It's not necessarily related to core inflation, but I think price gouging has something to do with it. Oil companies could bring down the price but increasing production, but they are enjoying record profits.
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Then there is reality. Hard earned money?
Well apparently you don’t know what that is. Fitting you have the viewpoint you have. Explains a lot.
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Well apparently you don’t know what that is. Fitting you have the viewpoint you have. Explains a lot.
I know some people who work hard for relatively little money, and some wealthy people who play for a living. Just because people have money does not necessarily mean it was hard earned.
It's interesting that wealthy Republicans like Steve Forbes want to exempt passive income; such as interest, dividends, capital gains, rents, royalties, from taxation. Is that hard unearned income?
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It's easy to toss spitballs from the cheap seats.
In case you haven't noticed, we've been fighting a proxy war, with a temporary pause in the early 90s, against Russia for the last 70 years. One could argue the seeds of the war were planted in 1917. The good news is that Europe, U.S. and others recognize that Putin's maniac territorial ambitions must be contained.
As to COVID, bad outcomes happen when you have a pandemic that has killed millions of people. All countries are struggling to put things back together. It's going to take time, certainly more than one news cycle.
"Massive inflation." Not as bad as I experienced in the 70s/80s, but still serious. Biden's not going to solve the problem by himself. It needs a fiscal policy fix, but Congress is too broken to achieve that. So we'll have to depend on monetary policy. That's a two-edged sword though. Higher fed rates come at a serious cost both in terms of deficits, e.g., US debt gets more expensive, and consumer borrowing costs skyrocket.
What needs to change is consumer preferences. We're living in an age of limitless consumption but finite supplies. The entire world is still largely living in a colonial-era expansionist mentality.
If you want prices to come down, buy less. Don't buy more than you need. Stop buying unnecessary crap you can do without, and stop taking unnecessary trips.
I’m aware of all this. How do you feel about Joe Biden being senile and his VP being an idiot?
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It would be funny if not sad to see the right wing media cite the Fed on inflation while omitting details. Yes, they are now saying part of inflation is due to Covid relief spending. Not Biden's policies per se, but the Cares Act of 2020 and the American Rescue Act of 2021.
The massive influx of money into the economy may have contributed to an increase in core inflation from 2% to 5%. The remaining increase in the CPI is attributable to supply issues.
The other thing is, those relief acts prevented deflation; which would have been far worse.
Don't expect either party to try to explain any of that. The lying Republicans will blame Joe Biden's policies. The lying Democrats will blame Putin's war.
https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2022/march/why-is-us-inflation-higher-than-in-other-countries/
Didn’t you argue against me for the better part of two years that all the spending wouldn’t or didn’t cause any inflation? I had finance-savvy buddies warning in early 2020 that all the spending coupled with supply chain issues was the perfect recipe for inflation issues down the road.
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Man it’s funny watching people prop up Biden like Weekend at Bernie’s, fall all over themselves to apologize for him, and normalize this situation just because he’s not Trump. And Biden’s backup is somehow even worse.
We are fighting a proxy war in Europe against the largest nuclear power in the world, have massive inflation, tons of cleanup to do from the aftermath of Covid and the lockdown nonsense, runaway government spending, and our elected leader is objectively senile.
But…
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Well, he doesn't have any suspect issues with foreign governments like the guy before him had.
:D
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I’m aware of all this. How do you feel about Joe Biden being senile and his VP being an idiot?
I wonder if a certain group can be declared senile.
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Thats strange, but ok
The last guy was a supreme jackass and moron who helped get us in this mess. I'll take the doddering old man at this point. Inflation is just going to have to work its way through the supply chain bottlenecks and Chinese zero tolerance policy; this is impacting everyone worldwide. We have the Soviets tied up in their dumbass war in Ukraine (where we are helping the good guys, as opposed to the guy who has Putin's dick in his mouth). The deficit is down. Unemployment remains low. Does anyone actually believe things would be better off with Trump stirring the pot and grifting daily? What exactly would he be doing?
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And we don't have to deal with insanity like this:
President Donald Trump demanded that the military recall two retired four-star officers who criticized him so they could be court-martialed, a new book says.
And it is not whataboutism when this was the other option.
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Didn’t you argue against me for the better part of two years that all the spending wouldn’t or didn’t cause any inflation? I had finance-savvy buddies warning in early 2020 that all the spending coupled with supply chain issues was the perfect recipe for inflation issues down the road.
I also said that even if it did contribute to core inflation; the alternative would have been worse. Obviously, if a lot of people ran out of UE benefits and had no income; that would have softened demand. Prices might even have dropped, in other words, deflation, leading to more job losses.
Meanwhile, others have said higher wages in the transportation, hospitality, services, and related sectors contributed to core inflation.
My main beef is with those who say that government spending is inherently inflationary, or that the current inflation was caused solely by Biden's policies and was therefore avoidable.
I do agree with those who say some of the stimulus funds could have been distributed more effectively.
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It’s just bothers me that people settle so easily. Well he isn’t Trump! Come on PAMan apply the same standards to our president that you do to Illini athletics.
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I also said that even if it did contribute to core inflation; the alternative would have been worse. Obviously, if a lot of people ran out of UE benefits and had no income; that would have softened demand. Prices might even have dropped, in other words, deflation, leading to more job losses.
Meanwhile, others have said higher wages in the transportation, hospitality, services, and related sectors contributed to core inflation.
My main beef is with those who say that government spending is inherently inflationary, or that the current inflation was caused solely by Biden's policies and was therefore avoidable.
I do agree with those who say some of the stimulus funds could have been distributed more effectively.
It seems most have trouble decoupling their feelings about this from who is or was president when certain things happened. I’m looking at the big picture and really don’t care who was the figurehead when it happened. You inject trillions into the economy (increasing demand) while suppressing worldwide supply through a variety of measures and this happens. It’s just not that complicated.
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And we don't have to deal with insanity like this:
President Donald Trump demanded that the military recall two retired four-star officers who criticized him so they could be court-martialed, a new book says.
And it is not whataboutism when this was the other option.
The book will be out soon, if you want to pre-order.
“The president told Milley and me that he ‘want[ed] to call them [McChrystal and McRaven] back to active duty and court-martial them’ for what they said,” the book reads.
Esper wrote that he and Milley tried to dissuade Trump from going through with the plan, telling him that the plan would backfire.
But, per Esper, Trump only relented after Milley “promis[ed] that he would personally call the officers and ask them to dial it back.”
McChrystal, reached by email, told TPM that “there was no call I remember — and I would have remembered that.”
He also wrote that it was the first he had heard of the matter, and declined to comment further. McRaven could not be reached for comment."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/esper-trump-wanted-to-activate-retired-four-stars-to-court-martial-them-for-disloyalty/ar-AAWZZ7N
Sounds riveting.
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It seems most have trouble decoupling their feelings about this from who is or was president when certain things happened. I’m looking at the big picture and really don’t care who was the figurehead when it happened. You inject trillions into the economy (increasing demand) while suppressing worldwide supply through a variety of measures and this happens. It’s just not that complicated.
And then you have to consider what happens if you don't extend those UE benefits / infuse that cash. That part might be a bit more complicated?
Europe did not have those stimuli, but I think they already had safety nets in place? Plus they did not have the wage disparity. Iirc, Their inflation was running 3 points behind ours, but is now only 1 point behind.
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"It seems most have trouble decoupling their feelings about this from who is or was president when certain things happened."
Democrats will be blamed because it happened on their watch.
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It’s just bothers me that people settle so easily. Well he isn’t Trump! Come on PAMan apply the same standards to our president that you do to Illini athletics.
Our choice was Trump versus Biden. I may not be happy with Biden, but things would be worse with Trump being a jackass daily and we would be dealing with the same issues we have now (plus Trumpers grifting). One difference: if Trump were in charge, Putin would be standing in Kiev on 5/9 giving a speech, which QAnon97 would applaud. Neither one of them can or could do much about the price of eggs and wings due to the bird flu. Maybe Trump would blame the Chinese for it.
Me saying I would take the "doddering old man" over Trump is hardly a hearty endorsement.
Donovan McNabb's nephew plays for Edmonton Oilers. Did not know that.
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The book will be out soon, if you want to pre-order.
“The president told Milley and me that he ‘want[ed] to call them [McChrystal and McRaven] back to active duty and court-martial them’ for what they said,” the book reads.
Esper wrote that he and Milley tried to dissuade Trump from going through with the plan, telling him that the plan would backfire.
But, per Esper, Trump only relented after Milley “promis[ed] that he would personally call the officers and ask them to dial it back.”
McChrystal, reached by email, told TPM that “there was no call I remember — and I would have remembered that.”
He also wrote that it was the first he had heard of the matter, and declined to comment further. McRaven could not be reached for comment."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/esper-trump-wanted-to-activate-retired-four-stars-to-court-martial-them-for-disloyalty/ar-AAWZZ7N
Sounds riveting.
Seems odd that Esper would make this up. Maybe he did. McChrystal may not remember because he sounds like a puss in the end?
Isn't the problem that the whole scenario is remotely believable in the first place? It does sound like something Trump.would want to do since he is so thin skinned.
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Seems odd that Esper would make this up. Maybe he did.
Isn't the problem that the whole scenario is remotely believable in the first place?
Seems odd that Hillary would make up Russiagate. Maybe she did.
Seems odd that they would make up the Russian bounty story. Maybe they did.
Seems odd that they would make up the suckers and losers story. Maybe they did.
Isn't the problem that the scenarios are a little hard to believe in the first place ?
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Seems odd that Hillary would make up Russiagate. Maybe she did.
Seems odd that they would make up the Russian bounty story. Maybe they did.
Seems odd that they would make up the suckers and losers story. Maybe they did.
Isn't the problem that the scenarios are a little hard to believe in the first place ?
She didn't make up Russiagate though. The DePaul dumbass bragging in the bar, who ended up getting convicted of a crime, is what started the investigation.
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She didn't make up Russiagate though. The DePaul dumbass bragging in the bar, who ended up getting convicted of a crime, is what started the investigation.
Other than John Brennan, in late July 2016, telling Obama etc that the Russkis were aware of Hillary's plan to vilify Trump to distract from the email issue ....
Mifsud's FBI 302 and a follow-up email might leave a few questions that could have been possibly answered if the FBI and the Mueller team wanted to use a goggle machine.
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Other than John Brennan, in late July 2016, telling Obama etc that the Russkis were aware of Hillary's plan to vilify Trump to distract from the email issue ....
Mifsud's FBI 302 and a follow-up email might leave a few questions that could have been possibly answered if the FBI and the Mueller team wanted to use a goggle machine.
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And we also know the campaign, run by a de facto Soviet agent, did meet with a Soviet agent to discuss "adoptions."
We all know there is more out there, but Mueller was a too much of a puss and respectful of the "norms" that were and continue to be ignored.
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And we also know the campaign, run by a de facto Soviet agent, did meet with a Soviet agent to discuss "adoptions."
We all know there is more out there, but Mueller was a too much of a puss and respectful of the "norms" that were and continue to be ignored.
I don't think the pee tape actually exists, unlike Hunter's hard drives.
:D :D
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I don't think the pee tape actually exists, unlike Hunter's hard drives.
:D :D
Putin may take the pee tape to his grave when he dies from cancer and Parkinson's!
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And we don't have to deal with insanity like this:
President Donald Trump demanded that the military recall two retired four-star officers who criticized him so they could be court-martialed, a new book says.
And it is not whataboutism when this was the other option.
CNBC had the story in 2019.
I suppose we could just let record amounts of lethal drugs from China come in thru Mexico tho.
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CNBC had the story in 2019.
I suppose we could just let record amounts of lethal drugs from China come in thru Mexico tho.
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Is this the story where he wanted to shoot missiles into Mexico?
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Is this the story where he wanted to shoot missiles into Mexico?
Drones
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Where are you, Mn? Reports re what Hunter Biden's laptop password circulating.
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Where are you, Mn? Reports re what Hunter Biden's laptop password circulating.
You think the guy had a couple of issues ? Lol.
I'm busy reading about all of the right wing domestic extremists and their violet protests in front of the Supreme Court justices homes.
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Where are you, Mn? Reports re what Hunter Biden's laptop password circulating.
November 1, 2020: "It didn’t take much for investigators to crack Hunter Biden’s infamous abandoned laptop, according to a report, because the password was 'Hunter02.”'
https://nypost.com/2020/11/01/hunter-biden-was-bad-at-setting-password-on-infamous-laptop-report/
May 6 2020: "Computer repairman John Paul Mac Isaac claims Hunter Biden shared a profanity-filled password to get into his now-infamous laptop.
...the password was “‘analf–k69’ or something to that extent,” with Mac Isaac noting that Biden’s “inebriated condition” made it hard to understand him."
https://nypost.com/2022/05/06/hunter-biden-reportedly-used-profane-password-for-laptop/
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I'm sure Mn has an explanation for that, Nichi.
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Is this the story where he wanted to shoot missiles into Mexico?
once again another stupid fake twisted lie designed to distract you from how things are "currently going"
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once again another stupid fake twisted lie designed to distract you from how things are "currently going"
Yes, Esper wrote his book now just to obscure how things are going. How much lead is there in the water out there? Because that is just idiotic.
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Yes, Esper wrote his book now just to obscure how things are going. How much lead is there in the water out there? Because that is just idiotic.
Um, no. It's the 'did you see what Esper wrote in his book about Trump ? Omigosh. 😱
Speaking of our good buddies on the other side of what used to be called a border, how's that Title 42 thing going ?
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Um, no. It's the 'did you see what Esper wrote in his book about Trump ? Omigosh. 😱
Speaking of our good buddies on the other side of what used to be called a border, how's that Title 42 thing going ?
What do you expect when this stuff is in the book? Seems only natural given how sensationalistic it is. Not every day you hear about shooting missiles into Mexico.
Last I heard Biden was getting blowback from Dems for seeking to end Title 42. The Chamber of Commerce is probably looking forward to its demise. Want cheap labor.
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I thought the title 42 was up to the CDC.
Besides, the pandemic is over, and was always a hoax to defeat Trump and advance a socialist agenda.
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What do you expect when this stuff is in the book? Seems only natural given how sensationalistic it is. Not every day you hear about shooting missiles into Mexico.
Last I heard Biden was getting blowback from Dems for seeking to end Title 42. The Chamber of Commerce is probably looking forward to its demise. Want cheap labor.
Not every day you hear about a proxy war with Russia.
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...Last I heard Biden was getting blowback from Dems for seeking to end Title 42...
Major unforced error; WH and congressional allies seem not to have discussed this.
It's time for Ron Klain to be handed his walking papers. He has no clue how to deal with the different factions of the party.
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Not every day you hear about a proxy war with Russia.
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Not every day you hear about a proxy war with Russia.
I think that is being reported on daily. In fact, it would be nice if certain individuals in the administration were not so braggadocious to reporters.
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Man it’s funny watching people prop up Biden like Weekend at Bernie’s, fall all over themselves to apologize for him, and normalize this situation just because he’s not Trump. And Biden’s backup is somehow even worse.
We are fighting a proxy war in Europe against the largest nuclear power in the world, have massive inflation, tons of cleanup to do from the aftermath of Covid and the lockdown nonsense, runaway government spending, and our elected leader is objectively senile.
But…
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He was my last choice in the primary, and Harris just notched him out (before excluding no hopers and dopers like Hickenlooper and Ryan)
But I still trust that a Biden administration will be staffed with human beings, not vampires like Bannon and Miller, so Biden over Trump was a no brainer.
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CNBC had the story in 2019.
I suppose we could just let record amounts of lethal drugs from China come in thru Mexico tho.
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The drugs come from Mexico because it's harder to arrest a Mexican Cartel than it is to arrest Walter White. If the cartels vanished immediately, it would become so lucrative to be Walter White that every iota of meth/fentanyl production would move into the US, and the heroin supply chains would move. If there is demand, there will be supply. Create a desperate population, they will do desperate things - and it's very clear to see which states - and their correlated governments - have the biggest epidemics.
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It's not necessarily related to core inflation, but I think price gouging has something to do with it. Oil companies could bring down the price but increasing production, but they are enjoying record profits.
I have a way esoteric take on inflation. Housing supply - especially in high income areas like New York and California. The Bay Area has been especially awful with respect to not building up enough housing in places where people make a lot of money.
So the price of housing - purchase and rent - goes up. In order to keep workers down the scale from leaving, companies have to charge more money. I had a momentary lapse of judgement today and got a #2 breakfast meal at McDonalds. It was like $8.67. I just assumed these meals were in the $5 range. Well, when the cashier is making $18/hour, you have to charge more.
OK, but this isn't an issue in say, Champaign, right? Except CA has two major exports.
1) People with not much money for California, but a lot of money for other places
2) Money
Someone moves to Boulder, buys a house with their filthy CA lucre, raises housing prices in Boulder, Boulder McDonalds has to raise their prices. Or someone from Palo Alto decides to diversify their real estate portfolio and buys a house in say, Lake Tahoe, taking a house off the market, same effect.
Even outside housing specifically, it's really hard for the Federal Government to do any sort of working policy when we practically have multiple currencies because the cost of living in various parts of the US have gotten so extremely disparate. Bernie says we need a $15 minimum wage which would give almost nobody in the Bay Area a raise, but would double wages for large parts of the US. A dollar is still a dollar, but an hour of labor is worth 2x in CA than in MS, and that money can be spent anywhere equally. And a large part of why CA has gotten so wacky is a dearth of new housing.
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I have said all along that higher wages for shit jobs is one of the reasons for an increase in what they call core inflation.
Does this support that?
"inflation-adjusted pay in the leisure and hospitality industry was 4.91% higher than in February 2020, just before the pandemic hit."
https://www.thebalance.com/some-low-wage-workers-are-staying-ahead-of-inflation-5270199
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I have said all along that higher wages for shit jobs is one of the reasons for an increase in what they call core inflation.
Does this support that?
"inflation-adjusted pay in the leisure and hospitality industry was 4.91% higher than in February 2020, just before the pandemic hit."
https://www.thebalance.com/some-low-wage-workers-are-staying-ahead-of-inflation-5270199
Then do we not have a catch 22? If we pay low wage workers less, then there will be less inflation but they don't have any money to buy non-inflated goods? Maybe paying them 10% more and having 5% inflation, increasing their buying power and lowering the buying power of people up the food chain is not a bad thing? Depends, I suppose. Maybe your moral compass says "if they wanted more, get a better job". Or maybe you're a pragmatist and say "The people up the food chain are pretty fat and happy except when some crackhead low wage worker breaks into their house, maybe if we gave that guy a few more crumbs he wouldn't be incentivized to steal shit"
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He was my last choice in the primary, and Harris just notched him out (before excluding no hopers and dopers like Hickenlooper and Ryan)
But I still trust that a Biden administration will be staffed with human beings, not vampires like Bannon and Miller, so Biden over Trump was a no brainer.
I had Biden higher precisely because he would be a boring institutionalist and defer to staff, which we desperately needed in 2020. I'm still ticked he named Harris as the VP, though, because that's just Gore/Hilary 3.0 waiting to happen.
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I have said all along that higher wages for shit jobs is one of the reasons for an increase in what they call core inflation.
Does this support that?
"inflation-adjusted pay in the leisure and hospitality industry was 4.91% higher than in February 2020, just before the pandemic hit."
https://www.thebalance.com/some-low-wage-workers-are-staying-ahead-of-inflation-5270199
4.9% over 2 years isn't that egregious of wage inflation, particularly in an industry that went decades without meaningful wage increases for entry level.
By way of contrast, I'm easily up 5-10% since then, as is 90% percent of professionals who moved jobs since then. C-suite salaries are probably up 30%.
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https://www.marketplace.org/2022/05/04/is-a-wage-price-spiral-driving-inflation/
One way, obviously, to drive down wages, at least on lower skilled jobs, is to increase immigration. The same people here who complain about not enough staff at their local McDonald's or the local Reno casino buffet also complain about not enough being done at the border. Quite the Catch-22 for some.
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https://www.marketplace.org/2022/05/04/is-a-wage-price-spiral-driving-inflation/
One way, obviously, to drive down wages, at least on lower skilled jobs, is to increase immigration. The same people here who complain about not enough staff at their local McDonald's or the local Reno casino buffet also complain about not enough being done at the border. Quite the Catch-22 for some.
do people in this country want lower wages?
Who other than large corporations would want that?
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do people in this country want lower wages?
Who other than large corporations would want that?
Are you arguing that inflation is being caused by wage increases?
Small corporations probably do.
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And still waiting for what anyone is supposed to do about the supply chain issues in order to tame inflation.
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do people in this country want lower wages?
Who other than large corporations would want that?
people who want a lower labor cost reflected reflected in prices. Service industries operate on a tight margin and reducing labor costs is one major way they increase profits.
I am not saying higher wages in service industries is a bad thing. But they are going to either cut hours or raise prices.
Core inflation is 5% and a big boost in service sector wages might be part of that. The CPI is 8 1/2%. So it appears a good part of it is still due to supply issues.
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I had Biden higher precisely because he would be a boring institutionalist and defer to staff, which we desperately needed in 2020. I'm still ticked he named Harris as the VP, though, because that's just Gore/Hilary 3.0 waiting to happen.
Bernie gave Hillary a good run for her money despite the establishment very much
1) Not wanting Bernie
2) Wanting Hillary
Kamala won't have #2 and I predict there will be more palatable options than Sanders (I like Sanders, the establishment does not)
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do people in this country want lower wages?
Who other than large corporations would want that?
Customers
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Customers
bigly
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Everybody is a customer.
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QAnon97, what's the deal? I thought the talk was the dollar had lost it luster, and the Chinese Commies and Soviets were ditching it. Yet, the dollar is apparently doing very well (too well?) despite the stock sell off. Thoughts?
I guess Murph can chime in as well since he always taunts you on financial issues.
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QAnon97, what's the deal? I thought the talk was the dollar had lost it luster, and the Chinese Commies and Soviets were ditching it. Yet, the dollar is apparently doing very well (too well?) despite the stock sell off. Thoughts?
I guess Murph can chime in as well since he always taunts you on financial issues.
He went all in on Netflix at 600
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He went all in on Netflix at 600
Ew gross
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That $33 billion got bumped up to $40 billion in no time.
No peace talks. Just war talk from day one after inviting a "minor incursion."
"We assess President Putin is preparing for a prolonged conflict in Ukraine during which he still intends to achieve goals beyond the Donbas," Haines told lawmakers on the Senate Armed Services Committee during an annual hearing on worldwide threats. She noted that entrenched military engagement means there's no "viable negotiating path forward" for Ukraine and Russia in the immediate term.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-conflict-putin-prolonged/#app
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That $33 billion got bumped up to $40 billion in no time.
No peace talks. Just war talk from day one after inviting a "minor incursion."
"We assess President Putin is preparing for a prolonged conflict in Ukraine during which he still intends to achieve goals beyond the Donbas," Haines told lawmakers on the Senate Armed Services Committee during an annual hearing on worldwide threats. She noted that entrenched military engagement means there's no "viable negotiating path forward" for Ukraine and Russia in the immediate term.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-conflict-putin-prolonged/#app
Takes 2 to tango. But that they are not even offering Putin an off ramp makes me wonder if they think/believe that he has no intention of trying to end this short of whatever his new goals are.
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That $33 billion got bumped up to $40 billion in no time.
No peace talks. Just war talk from day one after inviting a "minor incursion."
"We assess President Putin is preparing for a prolonged conflict in Ukraine during which he still intends to achieve goals beyond the Donbas," Haines told lawmakers on the Senate Armed Services Committee during an annual hearing on worldwide threats. She noted that entrenched military engagement means there's no "viable negotiating path forward" for Ukraine and Russia in the immediate term.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-conflict-putin-prolonged/#app
Putin may be prepared but his generals apparently are not, either are his troops.
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Takes 2 to tango. But that they are not even offering Putin an off ramp makes me wonder if they think/believe that he has no intention of trying to end this short of whatever his new goals are.
He's trying to completely bork up the Ukrainian Wheat Harvest because he and Trump went long wheat futures.
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Biden: "We control all three branches of the government."
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Biden: "We control all three branches of the government."
Looks like he was wrong. Manchin controls the government.
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Looks like he was wrong. Manchin controls the government.
Under the illusion that Manchin is part of "We". But it's not really beneficial for Democrats to bitch about Manchin, the alternative is not a better democrat in West Virginia, the alternative is House Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. He's by far the most anomalous Senator in the Senate, Susan Collins isn't even close.
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Biden: "We control all three branches of the government."
And now for the rest of the story…
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/we-dont-really-control-congress-biden-says
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Ew gross
Not gross enough. You're probably into bitcoin
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Under the illusion that Manchin is part of "We". But it's not really beneficial for Democrats to bitch about Manchin, the alternative is not a better democrat in West Virginia, the alternative is House Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. He's by far the most anomalous Senator in the Senate, Susan Collins isn't even close.
Not going to disagree.
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Not gross enough. You're probably into bitcoin
you're probably retarded if you think that
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And now for the rest of the story…
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/we-dont-really-control-congress-biden-says
And to finish the story.
From the link that you posted ...
Well, we don't but we do......
"Democrats only control the Senate due to Vice President Kamala Harris's tiebreaking vote."
So he is saying the Democrats control the Executive, Legislative and Judiciary ?
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And to finish the story.
From the link that you posted ...
Well, we don't but we do......
"Democrats only control the Senate due to Vice President Kamala Harris's tiebreaking vote."
So he is saying the Democrats control the Executive, Legislative and Judiciary ?
Your cherry-picking skills are excellent.
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Your cherry-picking skills are excellent.
Saying that the Democrats control the Judiciary is the issue.
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Saying that the Democrats control the Judiciary is the issue.
He meant the House, Senate, and White House. Technically incorrect.
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Saying that the Democrats control the Judiciary is the issue.
If you asked the founders, the Judiciary is non-partisan
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The guy's been in the Senate and the White House for 50 years and thinks the Senate and House are separate branches ? And the Judiciary isn't a branch ?
Uh, Ok.
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The guy's been in the Senate and the White House for 50 years and thinks the Senate and House are separate branches ? And the Judiciary isn't a branch ?
Uh, Ok.
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Quit playing games. The guy's senile. Deal with it.
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* 6.3% unemployment
* -3.7% gdp
* murder rates soaring in all regions; in cities, small towns, and rural areas.
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* 6.3% unemployment
* -3.7% gdp
* murder rates soaring in all regions; in cities, small towns, and rural areas.
Give the people what they want.
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Give the people what they want.
Ultra maga America first right living in a fantasy realm. A friend reminded me that Trump had double digit gdp growth, record low unemployment, and reduced the national debt after inheriting a total mess from Obama.
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Ultra maga America first right living in a fantasy realm. A friend reminded me that Trump had double digit gdp growth, record low unemployment, and reduced the national debt after inheriting a total mess from Obama.
you have very stupid friends
what does that say about you?
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you have very stupid friends
what does that say about you?
I have friends that watch Fox, listen to AM radio, and support Trump.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-the-news-thats-finally-fit-to-print-hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-new-york-times-joe-biden-11647637814
Hahahahahahahahaha
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Trump did not reduce the national debt. Far from it.
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Trump did not reduce the national debt. Far from it.
Is Tariq Cohen done?
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Trump did not reduce the national debt. Far from it.
He did not have double digit growth either. Unemployment was low, but was not a record low. Corporations used their tax cut to.buy back their own stock, pushing up the price.
There were signs we were headed for a recession before Covid.
It was not the best economy ever. Far from it.
Bill Clinton had much stronger growth and a balanced budget. Unemployment was almost as low; without benefit of boomers retiring.
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He did not have double digit growth either. Unemployment was low, but was not a record low. Corporations used their tax cut to.buy back their own stock, pushing up the price.
There were signs we were headed for a recession before Covid.
It was not the best economy ever. Far from it.
Bill Clinton had much stronger growth and a balanced budget. Unemployment was almost as low; without benefit of boomers retiring.
Too bad he couldn't keep it in his pants.
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Too bad he couldn't keep it in his pants.
I heard he turned down more than most men get. /s
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That $33 billion got bumped up to $40 billion in no time.
No peace talks. Just war talk from day one after inviting a "minor incursion."
"We assess President Putin is preparing for a prolonged conflict in Ukraine during which he still intends to achieve goals beyond the Donbas," Haines told lawmakers on the Senate Armed Services Committee during an annual hearing on worldwide threats. She noted that entrenched military engagement means there's no "viable negotiating path forward" for Ukraine and Russia in the immediate term.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-conflict-putin-prolonged/#app
Today .....
"REHOBOTH BEACH, Del. — President Joe Biden on Friday said he thinks a "negotiated settlement" will be necessary to end Russia's war in Ukraine.
Asked whether Ukraine should give up some of its territory to Russia in order to end the war and bring peace to the region, Biden said his policy continues to be that the United States will not make any decisions about Ukraine without Ukraine.
He said "it's their territory" and "I'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do."
But the U.S. leader also said "it appears to me that at some point along the line there's going to have to be a negotiated settlement here." He said he does not know what such an agreement would look like but that the U.S. will continue to help Ukrainians defend themselves.
Biden commented from Delaware on Friday, the 100th day of Russia's invasion."
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Today .....
"REHOBOTH BEACH, Del. — President Joe Biden on Friday said he thinks a "negotiated settlement" will be necessary to end Russia's war in Ukraine.
Asked whether Ukraine should give up some of its territory to Russia in order to end the war and bring peace to the region, Biden said his policy continues to be that the United States will not make any decisions about Ukraine without Ukraine.
He said "it's their territory" and "I'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do."
But the U.S. leader also said "it appears to me that at some point along the line there's going to have to be a negotiated settlement here." He said he does not know what such an agreement would look like but that the U.S. will continue to help Ukrainians defend themselves.
Biden commented from Delaware on Friday, the 100th day of Russia's invasion."
I suppose a negotiated settlement could involve "get out", but giving anything to the Russians is really rewarding terrorism
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I suppose a negotiated settlement could involve "get out", but giving anything to the Russians is really rewarding terrorism
Agreed.
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I suppose a negotiated settlement could involve "get out", but giving anything to the Russians is really rewarding terrorism
I would agree too.
We obviously don't know what's being discussed behind the scenes. CNN is reporting that Italy has proposed a four-point ceasefire framework that would involve Ukraine committing to neutrality with regard to NATO in exchange for some security guarantees, and negotiations between Ukraine and Russia on the future of Crimea and the Donbas region.
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-03-22/index.html
Here's Biden's response to the question:
Q Mr. President, does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve some peace?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, you’ve been always fair with me. The — from the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone has agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine. It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do.
But it appears to me that, at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here. And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time.
But in the meantime, we’re going to continue to put the — the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.
Thank you all so very much.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/06/03/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-may-jobs-report-2/
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"there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here. And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time."
That's something you should have been working on tens of billions of dollars and thousands of Ukrainian citizens and soldiers lives ago.
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"there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here. And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time."
That's something you should have been working on tens of billions of dollars and thousands of Ukrainian citizens and soldiers lives ago.
Agreed.
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"there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here. And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time."
That's something you should have been working on tens of billions of dollars and thousands of Ukrainian citizens and soldiers lives ago.
We ALL oppose the war.
You don’t think that Biden, Zelenskyy and our NATO allies weren’t working behind the scenes 24/7 to reach a negotiated settlement during Russia’s military buildup around Ukraine? Ceasefire negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow were initiated in the early weeks of the invasion. Israel and Turkey have tried to mediate. No compromise seems to be on the horizon.
The problem is straightforward. Putin is an evil, murderous thug. The only way to stop him is to make the cost too high for Russia to continue, not for Russia to forcefully assimilate all Ukrainians and menace other countries in the region.
Why do you think Finland and Sweden now want to join NATO? They recognize Putin’s delirious territorial aspirations. He’s a wannabe tsar.
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We ALL oppose the war.
You don’t think that Biden ... and our NATO allies weren’t working behind the scenes 24/7 to reach a negotiated settlement ....... ?
One year after his inauguration ....
" It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."
It would probably be rather alarming if they hadnt been negotiating.
How we doing so far ?
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One year after his inauguration ....
" It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."
It would probably be rather alarming if they hadnt been negotiating.
How we doing so far ?
I guess technically better than if they took Kiev, as everyone expected they would. So, we have that going for us.
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"there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here. And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time."
That's something you should have been working on tens of billions of dollars and thousands of Ukrainian citizens and soldiers lives ago.
And 2-3 years ago.
Maybe Biden has a better idea what the hell Putin will agree to here, but I sure don't see it.
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"there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here. And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time."
That's something you should have been working on tens of billions of dollars and thousands of Ukrainian citizens and soldiers lives ago.
Suddenly the Trumpublicans are The Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys
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Maybe we shouldn’t have overthrown their democratically elected leader in 2014 and maybe if Ukraine had just given Russia the parts of Ukraine that want to be part of Russia (and probably will be regardless) then none of this would have happened.
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Maybe their democratically elected leader Віктор Янукович should not have committed treason and fled the country.
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Maybe Russia should not have initiated an vicious, unprovoked, genocidal invasion of a smaller, sovereign nation.
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Unprovoked LOL
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Maybe we shouldn’t have overthrown their democratically elected leader in 2014 and maybe if Ukraine had just given Russia the parts of Ukraine that want to be part of Russia (and probably will be regardless) then none of this would have happened.
Easy for you to say, in addition to being naive given the failed effort to take Kiev. But hey, let Putin put the USSR back together again. Things would be great then!
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Unprovoked LOL
Hope your penis is ok.
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Maybe we shouldn’t have overthrown their democratically elected leader in 2014 and maybe if Ukraine had just given Russia the parts of Ukraine that want to be part of Russia (and probably will be regardless) then none of this would have happened.
Maybe Abe Lincoln should have just given the Confederacy the parts of the US that wanted to be parts of the Confederacy
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Maybe Abe Lincoln should have just given the Confederacy the parts of the US that wanted to be parts of the Confederacy
Or when the Mexicans want to take part of Texas back, just give it to them. That is what Tucker tells us is happening, right?
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Give them Delaware instead. Offer them all of it. See how things go then.
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Maybe Abe Lincoln should have just given the Confederacy the parts of the US that wanted to be parts of the Confederacy
You guys constantly bitch about the South, so…
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You guys constantly bitch about the South, so…
s/South/Southerners/;
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Give them Delaware instead. Offer them all of it. See how things go then.
Too many corporations call it home to let it go.
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This is great !
https://youtu.be/FLBYSnMKRVo
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Let's not forget that the price of oil crashed during the pandemic? Probably a good idea, but our collective attention span is too short and economic IQ is too low. The idiots at Fox are actually crediting Trump for the low prices that threatened the oil industry. At one point, domestic oil was selling at a net loss.
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Let's not forget that the price of oil crashed during the pandemic? Probably a good idea, but our collective attention span is too short and economic IQ is too low. The idiots at Fox are actually crediting Trump for the low prices that threatened the oil industry. At one point, domestic oil was selling at a net loss.
Golf is obviously a troll account, but I was discussing with an actual human, the cost of gas (and everything else).
The price of gas is the price of gas. How you'd judge the people executing policy is based on their policy. The price will move as a function of factors related to policies and external factors.
It could however be argued that Trump would have assisted Putin in just rolling over Ukraine and we'd have no global impact on oil prices from this war.
it really just seems that the people in Congress/Executive branch, and whomever sets agendas at most media outlets are either very stupid or quite duplicitous. There's no in depth discussion of any issue.
It's just "Gas prices up, must be Keystone XL!!!" - because either they believe it, or they figure stupid voters will.
"Inflation up, ZOMG Biden money printing machine!" Then again, the stock market has erased a lot more money than has been printed over the last several months, so why aren't prices actually going *down*?
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Don’t Look to Oil Companies to Lower High Retail Gasoline Prices
https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2022/0510
Analysis: Oil's journey from worthless in the pandemic to $100 a barrel
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oils-journey-worthless-pandemic-100-barrel-2022-02-24/
How would Trump have handled his deal to leave Afghanistan?
Would Trump have signed a second stimulus?
Would Trump have continued the policy of deporting otherwise legal undocumented workers?
Border Issues. Wall.
Abraham fund scam.
Russia / Nord stream
I am thinking Trump would have tried to cut a deal, let Russia have something? No idea how that might have worked.
Gas prices at $2.00 a gallon were not sustainable. $6.00 is not either.
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Gas prices at $2.00 a gallon were not sustainable. $6.00 is not either.
When I was at UIUC, I had a job at Subway that paid $3.35 an hour. Gas was $1.25 a gallon.
McDonalds down the street from me here is paying $18/hour. Gas is $6 a gallon.
In terms of hours, gas is cheaper now than when I was in college.
It's just money - it's made up. Pieces of paper with pictures on it so we don't have to kill each other just to get something to eat.
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Oil is traditionally boom or boost. Fwig, there have been 2 x factors; Covid and Ukraine.
Normally, with prices and demand this high, production would be booming. Producers who lost money due to the pandemic are now using record profits to reward investors. They have been reluctant to increase production. Even if they increased production to max capacity; they can't make up for Russia.
Republicans will blame cancellation of Keystone XL and the "regulatory environment."
Eventually a combination of events will lower oil prices, but not this year.
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When I was at UIUC, I had a job at Subway that paid $3.35 an hour. Gas was $1.25 a gallon.
McDonalds down the street from me here is paying $18/hour. Gas is $6 a gallon.
In terms of hours, gas is cheaper now than when I was in college.
It's just money - it's made up. Pieces of paper with pictures on it so we don't have to kill each other just to get something to eat.
So the people on fixed incomes can't afford to drive to McDonald's or eat there.
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Oil is traditionally boom or boost. Fwig, there have been 2 x factors; Covid and Ukraine.
Normally, with prices and demand this high, production would be booming. Producers who lost money due to the pandemic are now using record profits to reward investors. They have reluctant to increase production. Even if they increased production to max capacity; they can't make up for Russia.
Republicans will blame cancellation of Keystone XL and the "regulatory environment."
Eventually a combination of events will lower oil prices, but not this year.
Unfortunately, we’re still living in a prison of dependency on fossil fuels.
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Unfortunately, we’re still living in a prison of dependency on fossil fuels.
yes a prison that created our modern society and the greatest quality of life ever for humans on this planet
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yes a prison that created our modern society and the greatest quality of life ever for humans on this planet
True but, if we want it to endure, adaption is necessary. Ask the Romans.
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True but, if we want it to endure, adaption is necessary. Ask the Romans.
Yeah, no shit. Unless you want Cornelius overthrowing the humans. Damn you all to Hell!
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Our way of life depends on a stable climate. We are warming at a pace never experienced during modern civilization.
Change or perish.
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Our way of life depends on a stable climate. We are warming at a pace never experienced during modern civilization.
Change or perish.
earth's climate has always changed even well before humans existed here you stupid bastard, humans have adapted accordingly and we will again
the ice age ended a mere 11,500 years ago and we're one big volcano erupting or asteroid impact away from freezing and starving to death again
but yeah lets give our crony capitalist government more money because they totally don't fuck up every single thing they try to do with unintended consequences
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yes a prison that created our modern society and the greatest quality of life ever for humans on this planet
Do I have to remind you that you live in Reno?
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earth's climate has always changed even well before humans existed here you stupid bastard, humans have adapted accordingly and we will again
the ice age ended a mere 11,500 years ago and we're one big volcano erupting or asteroid impact away from freezing and starving to death again
but yeah lets give our crony capitalist government more money because they totally don't fuck up every single thing they try to do with unintended consequences
Hide one’s head firmly in the sand.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
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Do I have to remind you that you live in Reno?
And doesn't he work in the financial services insider trading industry? The biggest fraud and pyramid scheme known to mankind?
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And doesn't he work in the financial services insider trading industry? The biggest fraud and pyramid scheme known to mankind?
The ranks are
#3 - financial services insider trading industry
#2 - Bitcoin
#1 - Trump Save America PAC
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And doesn't he work in the financial services insider trading industry? The biggest fraud and pyramid scheme known to mankind?
wish I had insider info, i'd be as rich as Nancy Pelosi!!!
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wish I had insider info, i'd be as rich as Nancy Pelosi!!!
Her pantsuits are probably nicer than yours.
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Al time record spring rain fall again. Supercell thunderstorm with 11.3 mile high tops over Chicago. Tornado sirens in the city. Almost 100 in mid June in rural NE Illinois. Overnight lows near 80. Do they track record high over night low temps? Ghost forests on the eastern seaboard that were plush green areas just 20 years ago.
Climate change is clearly a hoax.
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The swift march of climate change in North Carolina’s ‘ghost forests’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/05/12/ghost-forests-carolina-climate-change/
What is a ghost forest?
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ghost-forest.html
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The swift march of climate change in North Carolina’s ‘ghost forests’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/05/12/ghost-forests-carolina-climate-change/
What is a ghost forest?
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ghost-forest.html
sea levels are not rising any faster than they have in the past
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8656483
look up land subsidence
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-01096-7
As much of North America experiences post-glacial rebound following the Pleistocene Epoch, large sections of the east coast of the United States continue to settle. This phenomenon occurs over the mid-latitudes, including coastal New Jersey through South Carolina, as sections of land that were forced upward (forebulge) by glacial loading to the north experience settlement following the loss of ice mass1,2. Groundwater extraction has also led to increased subsidence rates along the East Coast from New York to Florida2,3,4. Post glacial settling coupled with continued ground water extraction has resulted in comparatively rapid vertical land movement (VLM) at more than twice the long-term historical rate along large portions of the U.S. Atlantic coastline, exceeding 3 mm/year2. While eustatic sea-level rise (SLR) is considered a primary driver of worsening coastal flooding, the specific influences due to changes in land surface elevations, both anthropogenic and due to natural settlement, tend to be overlooked.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/09/12/study-finds-the-east-coast-of-america-is-sinking-into-the-atlantic-ocean/?sh=1ac2eb3a33fb
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sea levels are not rising any faster than they have in the past
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8656483
And now for the rest of the story…
“Although sea level rise occurs on a global scale, the effects and rates are regional and local in nature. ‘Relative’ rates of sea level rise can differ from the global rate due to local factors. These include upstream flood control, erosion and regional ocean currents — and even land movement, in continuation of a centuries-long response to the weight of Ice Age glaciers.”
“In Beaufort, North Carolina, the current relative sea level rise is 3.1 millimeters annually, based on data from 1953 to 2018 at a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration tide gauge. This yearly increase is a little more than the thickness of two pennies. In Wilmington, the sea level rises 2.39 mm per year, according to data from 1935 to 2018 at a NOAA tide gauge. On the Outer Banks, over 40 years of data from the Oregon Inlet NOAA tide gauge shows an annual increase of 4.69 mm.”
“But why worry about sea level rise that’s only two or three pennies thick?”
“The global rate of sea level rise is accelerating, and those pennies will add up even more quickly. In fact, the NOAA ‘low’ global sea level rise scenario for Beaufort, for instance, predicts seas a full foot higher in the next 40 years. However, if rates continue to accelerate, NOAA forecasts say Beaufort could experience sea level rise of 2 to 4 feet over the same time.”
https://ncseagrant.ncsu.edu/coastwatch/current-issue/summer-2019/land-versus-sea/#:~:text=In%20Beaufort%2C%20North%20Carolina%2C%20the,the%20thickness%20of%20two%20pennies
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Sea level is not rising faster. Records beginning in 1953 prove that. Well it is, but not really. The land is sinking. That is not due to human generated climate change. Well, part of it is. Sort of. And the sea level is rising too. Due to human generated climate change.
But one volcano eruption emits more greenhouse gas in an hour than humans produce in one day.
And it takes more energy to make a windmill than it will ever produce.
I remember when climatologists were predicting another ice age.
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All the libtards here:
“Oil companies won’t increase production !”
Reality:
https://twitter.com/Chevron/status/1531997466895196160?s=20&t=UDQnppCjVucAia2IQ45cvA
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Domestic production is still shy of of pre pandemic levels. Fox News falsely blames non-existent regulations and the non-existent keystone pipeline closure. The planned increases are too little too late. Even if they reach max capacity, it won't make up for Russia.
The strangest thing is giving Trump "credit" for pandemic induced low prices in 2020. Trump actually bullied the Saudis into cutting production to drive up prices to protect domestic producers.
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Trump actually bullied the Saudis into cutting production to drive up prices to protect domestic producers.
Link? Credible source?
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Link? Credible source?
You want me to do your homework?
Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/business/energy-environment/opec-russia-saudi-arabia-oil-coronavirus.html
Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil-trump-saudi-specialreport-idUSKBN22C1V4
Trump calls on Russia and Saudi Arabia to cut oil production
Data released by the federal Energy Information Administration this week showed gasoline demand in the U.S. plummeting and oil inventories surging.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/02/trump-calls-on-russia-and-saudi-arabia-to-cut-oil-production-161368
Trump plays key role in brokering historic oil deal
The production cut gives so much needed relief to a U.S. shale patch that has been devastated ...
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/trump-saudi-arabia-russia-opec-oil-deal-role
OPEC, oil nations agree to nearly 10M barrel cut amid virus. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-saudi-arabia-e9b73ec833e9a5ad304a69e3b9b86914
Trump reportedly warned Saudis to cut oil supply or lose US military support
https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/trump-warned-saudis-to-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support-report/
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From the AP story ..
"This is at least a temporary relief for the energy industry and for the global economy. This industry is too big to be let to fail and the alliance showed responsibility with this agreement,” said Per Magnus Nysveen, the head of analysis at Rystad Energy. “Even though the production cuts are smaller than what the market needed and only postpone the stock building constraints problem, the worst is for now avoided.”
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“The global rate of sea level rise is accelerating,
except its not, if you go and look at the data it is rising or even lowering in some spots at the same rate it has for the over 160 years we have been recording levels
saying "its going to accelerate" is bullshit and you know it kikebot
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From the AP story ..
"This is at least a temporary relief for the energy industry and for the global economy. This industry is too big to be let to fail and the alliance showed responsibility with this agreement,” said Per Magnus Nysveen, the head of analysis at Rystad Energy. “Even though the production cuts are smaller than what the market needed and only postpone the stock building constraints problem, the worst is for now avoided.”
I guess you must have a point?
My point is Fox is giving Trump for low prices that were due to high production and low demand. Two years ago Fox was giving Trump credit for a deal to cut production in the hopes of raising prices.
Fox is now mocking Biden for urging the Saudis to increase production. Two years ago, Fox was praising Trump for urging the Saudis to cut protection.
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except its not, if you go and look at the data it is rising or even lowering in some spots at the same rate it has for the over 160 years we have been recording levels
saying "its going to accelerate" is bullshit and you know it kikebot
Global versus some spots?
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Link? Credible source?
Living through it should have been enough (if you were remotely paying attention...like when they were literally paying people to take oil during the pandemic when demand cratered...https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/business/dealbook/oil-price-negative.html)
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except its not, if you go and look at the data it is rising or even lowering in some spots at the same rate it has for the over 160 years we have been recording levels
saying "its going to accelerate" is bullshit and you know it kikebot
I've seen the time lapse estimates for Martha's Vineyard. It will be nice to have beachfront property at least for awhile.
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I guess you must have a point?
My point is Fox is giving Trump for low prices that were due to high production and low demand. Two years ago Fox was giving Trump credit for a deal to cut production in the hopes of raising prices.
Fox is now mocking Biden for urging the Saudis to increase production. Two years ago, Fox was praising Trump for urging the Saudis to cut protection.
Your "point" appeared to be that Trump "bullied".
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Your "point" appeared to be that Trump "bullied".
That was a side point. According to NY Post and Reuter's he threatened the Saudis.
The main point was Fox is in the present day giving him credit those low price prices back then. The irony is obvious even to me.
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I've seen the time lapse estimates for Martha's Vineyard. It will be nice to have beachfront property at least for awhile.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8447930
should be ok for another 500-1000 years
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"It's risen over 11 inches since 1950 in North Carolina," explained Duke Professor of Biology Justin Wright. "it's really sad to see all these dead trees, but they're also really the canary in the coal mine."
Wright says with sea levels rising, seawater seeps into aquifers and freshwater wetlands, killing vegetation including trees. Irrigation dredging meant to drain water out of mass areas of land is now allowing the intrusion of saltwater, especially with rising storm surges, leading to the death of many trees far inland from the coast.
"They can persist 10-15 miles from the coast," Wright said about how far his research found Ghost Forests inland.
https://abc11.com/ghost-forest-alligator-river-national-wildlife-research-global-warming/11780550/
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Your "point" appeared to be that Trump "bullied".
Hence the reference to a credible link. I guess “facts” aren’t necessarily facts. 🤡 🌎
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https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8447930
should be ok for another 500-1000 years
I'm indestructible.
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Whether threatening to pull military support is or isn't "bullying" is semantics. The fact is Trump intervened to raise gas prices when demand cratered. Which, if you had firing synapsis at the time it occured, you would know, because the fact oil was being given away was all over the damned news. But our Trumpists shall fight and die on Trump Hill just like Plaza will fight and die in any number of other threads.
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That was a side point. According to NY Post and Reuter's he threatened the Saudis.
The main point was Fox is in the present day giving him credit those low price prices back then. The irony is obvious even to me.
The NY Post article was a take-off of the Reuters article which relied on "sources familiar with the matter" and "a U.S. source who was briefed".
Lol.
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The NY Post article was a take-off of the Reuters article which relied on "sources familiar with the matter" and "a U.S. source who was briefed".
Lol.
The point was Trump was trying to get the Saudis to cut production to drive up the cost of oil and by extension, gasoline. That clearly relates to Fox now giving Trump credit for low prices. How fucking hard is that to follow? We can nit pick over whether he begged, bullied, urged, persuaded, cajoled, bribed, threatened, or finessed them. Lol that. Criminy and gadzooks.
Asked by Reuters on Wednesday if he told MBS that the US might pull forces out of Saudi Arabia, Trump responded: “I didn’t have to tell him.”
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If Mn starts calling Nichi "kikebot" or a similar name, you know Nichi has broken Mn. Stay strong Mn.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAaBejJuno
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4zfmNE2Wc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4zfmNE2Wc
I dont have the balance that I had a few years ago, you young whippersnapper. And Joe is older than me.
;D
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Figured PAMan would be all over the cycling incident.
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From the angle I saw, it looks like Biden got caught in the toe cage on the right pedal as he came to a stop to speak to well-wishers. Falling off your bike when slowing or stopping is a rite of passage for many bicyclists.
The consensus on the bicycling forums is that Biden should swap out the toe cages for a set of clipless pedals. The cages can be notoriously challenging. I stopped using them in the 90s.
Now for some heavy-duty bike crashes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vy2f4ZhZg&t=2s
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From the angle I saw, it looks like Biden got caught in the toe cage on the right pedal as he came to a stop to speak to well-wishers. Falling off your bike when slowing or stopping is a rite of passage for many bicyclists.
The consensus on the bicycling forums is that Biden should swap out the toe cages for a set of clipless pedals. The cages can be notoriously challenging. I stopped using them in the 90s.
Now for some heavy-duty bike crashes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vy2f4ZhZg&t=2s
Need to take it the next level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZWU9I30Gxg&t=845s
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Figured PAMan would be all over the cycling incident.
The damned guy ran as a moderate, not as a bike-riding hippie who gets his foot caught in bike "toe clips."
Which reminds me: was getting a ride into the office today when some homeless looking fella on a Divvy-looking bike was yelling at an SUV in the right lane to get out of his way as he was riding the wrong way through the underpass for the LaSalle Street Station/Chicago Stock Exchange on Congress/Ida B. Wells Drive. Felt bad for the lady driving the SUV as there was nowhere for her to go...
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From the angle I saw, it looks like Biden got caught in the toe cage on the right pedal as he came to a stop to speak to well-wishers. Falling off your bike when slowing or stopping is a rite of passage for many bicyclists.
The consensus on the bicycling forums is that Biden should swap out the toe cages for a set of clipless pedals. The cages can be notoriously challenging. I stopped using them in the 90s.
Now for some heavy-duty bike crashes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vy2f4ZhZg&t=2s
Was he wearing "bike cleats" too?
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Was he wearing "bike cleats" too?
Didn't look like it.
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That's funny.
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:D
And he's strapped in good.
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1539043169295163392?s=21&t=2jKGlrB5M4HZdufE7qQ3Kw
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1539043169295163392?s=21&t=2jKGlrB5M4HZdufE7qQ3Kw
2024 election is already over.
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1539043169295163392?s=21&t=2jKGlrB5M4HZdufE7qQ3Kw
hahahaha
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1539043169295163392?s=21&t=2jKGlrB5M4HZdufE7qQ3Kw
This makes sense. The last thing he “rode” cost 130k upon dismount.
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This makes sense. The last thing he “rode” cost 130k upon dismount.
Now, that's funny too.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-cheat-sheet-shows-instruction-074352962.html
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-cheat-sheet-shows-instruction-074352962.html
The question is did he follow it perfectly or not?
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Here you go, Custard...
https://apnews.com/article/inflation-russia-ukraine-covid-health-government-and-politics-999a756b89b09b65d335856cf570737e
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Sounds about right but doesn’t mean we shouldn’t pay attention to all the fuckery that’s going on and hold assholes accountable
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https://www.slowboring.com/p/america-needs-supply-side-reform?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share
More for Custard...
The part about the airlines now suffering for offering pilot buyouts when travel was down during the pandemic is certainly interesting.
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good job Joe
Although I guess he wouldn't want to be labeled a racist if he actually tried to help "America First"
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-us-reserves-head-overseas-gasoline-prices-stay-high-2022-07-05/
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good job Joe
Although I guess he wouldn't want to be labeled a racist if he actually tried to help "America First"
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-us-reserves-head-overseas-gasoline-prices-stay-high-2022-07-05/
I dont like these "source said" statements, but .....
"A third cargo headed to China, another source said."
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I dont like these "source said" statements, but .....
"A third cargo headed to China, another source said."
So now reuters is fake news? Thanks, good to know ;D
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1539682754031648769
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So now reuters is fake news? Thanks, good to know ;D
Lamestream media telling lies!
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good job Joe
Although I guess he wouldn't want to be labeled a racist if he actually tried to help "America First"
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-us-reserves-head-overseas-gasoline-prices-stay-high-2022-07-05/
Copied the 1st paragraph about shipping 5 million barrels to foreign countries and sent to the White House via email.
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Oil is traded and priced globally. I can look it up, but some of our domestic oil gets shipped to Asia and we import oil from the Middle East.
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In 2021, the United States imported about 8.47 million barrels per day (b/d) of petroleum from 73 countries.
Top five countries
Canada 4.34 (51%) 0.84 3.50
Mexico 0.71 (8%) 1.16 -0.45
Russia 0.67 (8%) 0.00 0.67
Saudi Arabia 0.43 (5%) 0.01 0.42
Colombia 0.20 (2%) 0.12 0.0
In 2021, the United States exported about 8.63 million b/d of petroleum to 176 countries and 4 U.S. territories
The top five destination countries of U.S. total petroleum exports by export volume and percentage share of U.S. total petroleum exports in 2021 were:
Mexico—1.16 million b/d—13%
Canada—0.84 million b/d—10%
India—0.62 million b/d—7%
China—0.59 million b/d—7%
South Korea—0.56 million b/d—6%
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6
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Oil is traded and priced globally. I can look it up, but some of our domestic oil gets shipped to Asia and we import oil from the Middle East.
oil from the strategic petroleum reserve doesn't (well, shouldn't) though
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oil from the strategic petroleum reserve doesn't (well, shouldn't) though
When it is released into the open market to help stabilize supply it becomes part of the global supply.
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U.S. oil refining capacity down in 2021 for second year -EIA
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-oil-refining-capacity-drops-2021-2d-straight-year-eia-2022-06-21/
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When it is released into the open market to help stabilize supply it becomes part of the global supply.
Oil prices down 9% today
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earth's climate has always changed even well before humans existed here you stupid bastard, humans have adapted accordingly and we will again
the ice age ended a mere 11,500 years ago and we're one big volcano erupting or asteroid impact away from freezing and starving to death again
but yeah lets give our crony capitalist government more money because they totally don't fuck up every single thing they try to do with unintended consequences
Oh cool, ‘97 is a climate scientist. I did not know this!
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earth's climate has always changed even well before humans existed here you stupid bastard, humans have adapted accordingly and we will again
the ice age ended a mere 11,500 years ago and we're one big volcano erupting or asteroid impact away from freezing and starving to death again
but yeah lets give our crony capitalist government more money because they totally don't fuck up every single thing they try to do with unintended consequences
This is probably a slam dunk for top 10 dumbest posts ever on this forum.
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This is probably a slam dunk for top 10 dumbest posts ever on this forum.
not even close, pal
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This is probably a slam dunk for top 10 dumbest posts ever on this forum.
Yes, there was a lot of stupidity in that one, but I have seen worse. He could do worse if he tried harder.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/snoop-dogg-mocks-biden-with-sleepy-joe-og-weed-strain/ar-AAZsnoi
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/snoop-dogg-mocks-biden-with-sleepy-joe-og-weed-strain/ar-AAZsnoi
"Newsweek reached out to the Biden administration and a representative for Snoop Dogg for comment."
Let me guess. No reply.
;D
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Even the woke media turning on sleepy joe !
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so does Joe have cancer, or covid or both?
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so does Joe have cancer, or covid or both?
Both. Tough week for him. All hail President Harris!
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Q97 looked at it
Here she comes, just a walking down the street, singing "Goes with Rum, cry, hoodlum, criminal brandon welfare queen goes with rum"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgoMkBC89-s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgoMkBC89-s
Glad he can actually get stuff done as opposed to the last guy. Maybe Mexico will actually pay for it, too!
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There will not be another foot of wall built under my administration - Joe Biden
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"When my predecessor got COVID, he had to get helicoptered to Walter Reed Medical Center. He was severely ill. Thankfully, he recovered," said Biden who rarely discusses Trump directly. "When I got COVID, I worked from upstairs."
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Delta vs Omicron with Paxlovid isn't even a discussion.
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Delta vs Omicron with Paxlovid isn't even a discussion.
Or, Trump is a pussy.
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Delta vs Omicron with Paxlovid isn't even a discussion.
I think you meant Obese vs Vaccinated and Paxlovid isn't even a discussion.
Right? That's what you meant, right?
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Or, Trump is a pussy.
Given "Delta vs Omicron" vs "Trump is a pussy", by process of elimination "Trump is a pussy" wins.
Facts.
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Given "Delta vs Omicron" vs "Trump is a pussy", by process of elimination "Trump is a pussy" wins.
Facts.
Too obvious. +1.
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Looks like a Paxlovid rebound infection for Biden.
https://twitter.com/connorobrienNH/status/1553451029085229058?s=20&t=VHOxKDdWQHzjcQkqW8tpfA
Have a friend experiencing the same thing except she has symptoms.
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Looks like a Paxlovid rebound infection for Biden.
https://twitter.com/connorobrienNH/status/1553451029085229058?s=20&t=VHOxKDdWQHzjcQkqW8tpfA
Have a friend experiencing the same thing except she has symptoms.
He should not have adopted a raccoon dog from the Wuhan Market.
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Looks like a Paxlovid rebound infection for Biden.
https://twitter.com/connorobrienNH/status/1553451029085229058?s=20&t=VHOxKDdWQHzjcQkqW8tpfA
Have a friend experiencing the same thing except she has symptoms.
wow good thing he was quadruple vaxxed
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wow good thing he was quadruple vaxxed
If not more.
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wow good thing he was quadruple vaxxed
Good call. Could have needed to be hospitalized or even dead if not. Sure you would be excited about President Harris.
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Good call. Could have needed to be hospitalized or even dead if not. Sure you would be excited about President Harris.
yeah key word being "could"
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yeah key word being "could"
Yes, because we know unlike numerous other olds, and others, who died or were/are hospitalized, that Biden has not been hospitalized and that he was fully vaxxed. We also know that vaxxed olds have lower hospitalization rates than non-vaxxed olds. Google it, QAnon97! Pick your poison: knowledge or continued ignorance?
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Any evidence that Covid infected 10% for the Big Guy asked Xi about the deleted covid data during their 2 hour phone call ?
Covid has killed a million Americans.
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Any evidence that Covid infected 10% for the Big Guy asked Xi about the deleted covid data during their 2 hour phone call ?
Covid has killed a million Americans.
He probably preferred talking about their plans to blast Nancy out of the skies.
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He probably preferred talking about their plans to blast Nancy out of the skies.
The French lady says that's a hypothetical.
Besides, it's just a 'minor incursion'.
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The French lady says that's a hypothetical.
Besides, it's just a 'minor incursion'.
She's there. San Fran Nan has bigger balls than any Republican at this point. Sad!
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She's there. San Fran Nan has bigger balls than any Republican at this point. Sad!
You didn't think Xi would shoot down an asset, did you ?
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You didn't think Xi would shoot down an asset, did you ?
Putin is the reason Xi hearts Trump!
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She's there. San Fran Nan has bigger balls than any Republican at this point. Sad!
"This morning, a congressional delegation (CODEL) led by U.S. Senator and India Caucus Co-Chair John Cornyn (R-TX) touched down back in the U.S after visiting key allies and partners in southeast Asia. The delegation, which included Senators Mike Crapo (R-ID), Mike Lee (R-UT), and Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) and Representatives Tony Gonzales (TX-23) and Jake Ellzey (TX-6), supported Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM)’s mission to continue to build security cooperation in the region and strengthen bilateral ties with key allies following COVID-19.
To learn how the U.S. can best support Taiwan’s development of domestic asymmetric defense capabilities and discuss trade relations, the delegation met with President Tsai Ing-wen, along with defense and foreign affairs leadership in Taipei."
https://www.cornyn.senate.gov/content/news/cornyn-leads-delegation-southeast-asia-support-us-military%E2%80%99s-largest-combatant-command
11-15-2021
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"This morning, a congressional delegation (CODEL) led by U.S. Senator and India Caucus Co-Chair John Cornyn (R-TX) touched down back in the U.S after visiting key allies and partners in southeast Asia. The delegation, which included Senators Mike Crapo (R-ID), Mike Lee (R-UT), and Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) and Representatives Tony Gonzales (TX-23) and Jake Ellzey (TX-6), supported Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM)’s mission to continue to build security cooperation in the region and strengthen bilateral ties with key allies following COVID-19.
To learn how the U.S. can best support Taiwan’s development of domestic asymmetric defense capabilities and discuss trade relations, the delegation met with President Tsai Ing-wen, along with defense and foreign affairs leadership in Taipei."
https://www.cornyn.senate.gov/content/news/cornyn-leads-delegation-southeast-asia-support-us-military%E2%80%99s-largest-combatant-command
11-15-2021
The Commie Chinese weren't threatening to blow them out of the sky though.
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Murph is the guy in the upper left who avoided the crash?
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Filled up for $3.89/gal today. Thanks, Joe!
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Filled up for $3.89/gal today. Thanks, Joe!
Gas prices are Putin's responsibility.
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Thanks Vlad!
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Thanks Vlad!
Vlad didn't write a letter to the oil companies though....
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Yeah he doesn’t have to
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Yeah he doesn’t have to
Hahaha
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Filled up for $3.89/gal today. Thanks, Joe!
Must be nice. I filled up yesterday for $5.07/gallon.
Thanks Putin! Mofo.
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Must be nice. I filled up yesterday for $5.07/gallon.
Thanks Putin! Mofo.
You must live in a blue state or drive a diesel
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You must live in a blue state or drive a diesel
So Cali. The price has dropped about 85 cents/gallon in the past 6 weeks. 87 octane for my Ford Ranger.
I let Bumbling Joe know via email to the White House that we're tired of getting raped at the pump, Putin is not the reason for the outrageous gas prices. HE is the reason with his stupid agendas.
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You must live in a blue state or drive a diesel
I do (both) and go across to Iowa to buy fuel. Been doing that for quite awhile now. Fuck you, fatty Pritzker. It was about 80 cents/gallon cheaper for diesel over there, which is nutty. At the height of this craziness it wasn't uncommon for me to put $130 into the tank. Thankfully, I don't drive much.
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I was in parts of 5 states this week. Iowa, MO, IL, KY, IN. KY the cheapest and IL by far most expensive. That’s not Putin.
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While local taxes are always an issue, especially here in IL, I love it when we act like inflation is not a worldwide problem.
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Nobody likes the higher gas taxes in Illinois. However, there is a silver lining. Roads, bridges, rail and other related infrastructure are getting repaired/upgraded (especially downstate) after years of deferred maintenance.
https://idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/rebuild-illinois.html
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For all you nabobs of negativism, Sleepy Joe's latest jobs report looks robust (even with the inevitable forthcoming adjustment).
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Nobody likes the higher gas taxes in Illinois. However, there is a silver lining. Roads, bridges, rail and other related infrastructure are getting repaired/upgraded (especially downstate) after years of deferred maintenance.
https://idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/rebuild-illinois.html
lol sure they are...
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Nobody likes the higher gas taxes in Illinois. However, there is a silver lining. Roads, bridges, rail and other related infrastructure are getting repaired/upgraded (especially downstate) after years of deferred maintenance.
https://idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/rebuild-illinois.html
Amen to that. The roads where I live are a huge improvement. It started right after Pritzker was elected.
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Hmmmm, who do I believe, the guy that lives in Nevada with no water or the guy in Illinois.... Hmmmmm
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The roads in the red states with much lower gas prices were just fine 🤷🏻♂️
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The roads in the red states with much lower gas prices were just fine 🤷🏻♂️
The roads and railroad crossings in rural NE Illinois were horrendous. Beyond Bad. Scheduled overpass repair projects took years to complete. There was a 180 when Pritzker replaced Rauner. Nobody around here appreciates it though. They are still upset about mask mandates. Also angry that the election was stolen from Trump.
Gas prices here are right around $3.98.
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roads here get fixed quickly and efficiently... (except for the federally funded interstate) I wonder why that is
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Who pays for repairs to the overpasses? Those are state, county, city roads that pass over interstates.
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roads here get fixed quickly and efficiently... (except for the federally funded interstate) I wonder why that is
Republicans cutting wasteful programs.
I would think you don't have a lot of problems from salt, freezing, thawing ...
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Republicans cutting wasteful programs.
I would think you don't have a lot of problems from salt, freezing, thawing ...
I suggest you check out how much the temperature fluctuates here in reno, especially in winter
much less precipitation of course but our wet season is the fall-spring
they don't use road salt (thank god), but they brine the roads and use sand
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Gee who could have guessed mr moderate would turn out to be a reckless tax (and ruthlessly enforce) and spend democrat
The inflation reduction act will increase inflation
So will loan “forgiveness” errrrr transfer
I went to the military so I wouldn’t be in debt after college, my kids did the same, now I have to pay for the debt others racked up getting a worthless degree they can’t monetize !?!?
The whole reason college is so expensive is because the government got involved in the first place
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Gee who could have guessed mr moderate would turn out to be a reckless tax (and ruthlessly enforce) and spend democrat
The inflation reduction act will increase inflation
So will loan “forgiveness” errrrr transfer
I went to the military so I wouldn’t be in debt after college, my kids did the same, now I have to pay for the debt others racked up getting a worthless degree they can’t monetize !?!?
The whole reason college is so expensive is because the government got involved in the first place
Well, you might be crazy, but you’re not wrong on these points.
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Gee who could have guessed mr moderate would turn out to be a reckless tax (and ruthlessly enforce) and spend democrat
The inflation reduction act will increase inflation
So will loan “forgiveness” errrrr transfer
I went to the military so I wouldn’t be in debt after college, my kids did the same, now I have to pay for the debt others racked up getting a worthless degree they can’t monetize !?!?
The whole reason college is so expensive is because the government got involved in the first place
Your kids went to the military and were paid enough to not have debt for a four year degree?
Why are we paying that much to kids who are just going to leave the military after we train them?
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Student loan situation looks like Crony Capitalism to me.
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Your kids went to the military and were paid enough to not have debt for a four year degree?
Why are we paying that much to kids who are just going to leave the military after we train them?
Probably due to the GI Bill and similar state programs.
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Probably due to the GI Bill and similar state programs.
Irony is not your strong suit
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Irony is not your strong suit
It was not ironic.
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One thing that people have a hard time understanding is cause and effect. State governments used to subsidize higher education because an educated populous is a good thing. That stopped happening to a large degree in the 1980s (privatizing a public good was a popular notion at the time, and still is) and the tuition rates soared.
The money to pay for running universities and colleges (yeah, I agree it could be done more efficiently) has to come from somewhere, so now students are burdened with debt to pay for it. The way I look at it, Biden's plan is just a return to government playing a bigger role in subsidizing higher education again.
Is Biden’s approach good?. I’d give him an incomplete (I) grade, but it will have to do until we have a broader policy discussion about the purpose of higher education, as well as the role that the states and federal government should play in supporting it.
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One thing that people have a hard time understanding is cause and effect. State governments used to subsidize higher education because an educated populous is a good thing. That stopped happening to a large degree in the 1980s (privatizing a public good was a popular notion at the time, and still is) and the tuition rates soared.
The money to pay for running universities and colleges (yeah, I agree it could be done more efficiently) has to come from somewhere, so now students are burdened with debt to pay for it. The way I look at it, Biden's plan is just a return to government playing a bigger role in subsidizing higher education again.
Is Biden’s approach good?. I’d give him an incomplete (I) grade, but it will have to do until we have a broader policy discussion about the purpose of higher education, as well as the role that the states and federal government should play in supporting it.
I only recently began thinking about this the other day, but he should have added a volunteering aspect to this. If you want the reduction, then you need to do some work for some non-profit. Yeah. I know documentation and fraud issues abound, but why not have people do something other than "apply"?
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Maybe after school choice gets going, we could get a parent loan program started for primary and secondary education. Offer to pay for high school if the children agree to serve in the military upon graduation.
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I only recently began thinking about this the other day, but he should have added a volunteering aspect to this. If you want the reduction, then you need to do some work for some non-profit. Yeah. I know documentation and fraud issues abound, but why not have people do something other than "apply"?
That’s an interesting idea. I could see debt relief applicants volunteering in areas like tutoring, public health or the environment, or national defense and security via military, police, or civil institutions. You could tie the level of relief to the number of months of service provided, up to a certain threshold. Many organizations and institutions have internship and volunteering opportunities, so I don't think you'd have to start from scratch to cobble a service program together. Could look to other countries that have voluntary national service programs in place.
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From Mike Rowe:
I work hard on this page, (not as hard as I could, perhaps, but pretty hard), to avoid the politics of the moment, and comment only on topics that impact the foundation I’m proud to run – a foundation that awards work-ethic scholarships to individuals who choose to forego an expensive, four-year education in favor of a skilled trade. When I do weigh in, I try to acknowledge both sides of the argument, and make my points with as much respect as I can muster. Today, however, I can see only one side. Today, I can find nothing to respect in the President’s decision to transfer billions of dollars in outstanding student loans onto the backs of those people my foundation tries to assist - the same people I’ve spent the last twenty years profiling on Dirty Jobs.
With that in mind, I’m not going to write the piece I just sat down to write. Instead, I’m going to share the attached article from Charlie Cooke, who writes better than I do, and shares my disdain for what just happened. If you share our disdain, then please, share this post as well. This decision is without question, the biggest pre-Labor Day slap in the face to working people I've ever seen.
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BIDEN'S STUDENT-DEBT BONFIRE IS A CLASSIST MESSAGE TO THE UNCREDENTIALED: SCREW 'EM
By Charlie Cooke
A few moments before I sat down to write this piece, I opened the door to six guys in blue shirts who had come to my house to replace our air-conditioning units. The Florida weather being what it is, I’ve seen some of these guys work on our air conditioners before, and they’re as skilled and knowledgeable and conscientious and hard-working as you might expect. The company they work for, which is local to North Florida, was started by a guy who chose to forgo college in favor of taking out a small-business loan to strike out on his own. Most of the technicians who work for him didn’t go to college, either. They took a different path. And, well . . . what absolute chumps the president has just made of them for that!
Squirm if you like, but that’s the truth of the matter: As of today, the six air-conditioning technicians in my house are on the hook for college loans that were signed for, spent, and enjoyed by other people. Confirming the measure today, President Biden announced that any American who has both college debt they vowed to repay and an individual yearly income under $125,000 (or a family yearly income under $250,000) will be given up to $20,000 by the Treasury — which means by you, and by me, and by everyone else who pays taxes in America.
Why? Well, that’s the question.
The answer can’t be, “because that’s what the relevant law anticipates or requires.” As of yet, Congress has provided no authorization for the executive branch to arbitrarily write off some of the money that borrowers owe to taxpayers. As of yet, Congress has passed no rules that allow down-on-their-luck presidents to throw money at people for political gain. As of yet, Congress has given no instruction that if the president’s friends might like a little more cash, he can raid the Treasury to give it to them. Certainly, Congress has set up a loan program. But the deal there is rather simple, all told: First you borrow, and then you pay back what you borrowed. There is no mention of “forgiveness” days or of “help” or of rolling Chekhovian jubilees, and by pretending otherwise, President Biden is making a mockery of his oath to uphold the Constitution.
Another answer that won’t fly is, “To lower the cost of education.” As President Biden made clear today, this is a one-time deal, a lottery, a lightning strike. People who paid off their loans last week aren’t covered. People who will take out new loans after the policy has run its course aren’t covered. The problems in the system aren’t addressed. The colleges, and their endowments, are left unmolested. American culture’s increasingly credentialist presumptions aren’t altered. Within four years, overall debt will return to its present level. With the stroke of a pen, the already-fake deficit savings within the Inflation Reduction Act will be wiped out. This isn’t a reform. It’s not even pretending to be reform. It’s a contemptuous, abusive, unbelievably expensive shot in the dark — the net effect of which will be that fewer people correctly calibrate whether college is worth it, fewer colleges change their offerings to meet market demand, and, because this sort of executive giveaway will now loom large as a possibility, fewer people feel the need to save for college.
It seems so arbitrary. Why does Biden not want to do the same thing for loans on trucks owned by plumbers? Why not for mortgages — which, given how heavily it subsidizes them, the federal government clearly thinks are worthwhile? Why not for credit cards or auto payments or mom-and-pop credit lines? The answer, I’m afraid to say, is disgustingly classist: Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are better than everyone else. Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are of a finer cut. Because Joe Biden and his party prefer college students to you, and they think that those students ought to be rewarded for that by being handed enormous gobs of your money.
Electricians, store managers, deli workers, landscapers, waitresses, mechanics, entrepreneurs? Screw ’em. Sure, college graduates make more money than non-graduates, and their unemployment rate is lower, too. But non-graduates don’t have access to the president, so they don’t matter. They’re tradesmen, the riff-raff, the great unwashed. They’re background noise, dirty-handed types, second-classers. They don’t deserve $10,000 in debt reduction. What would they even do with it? Go hunting? Give it to their church? Their role is to subsidize the superior people, and the superior people go to college.
Why did Joe Biden do all this? That’s why. Why was this what Joe Biden chose to break his oath to achieve? That’s why. When it came down to it, good ol’ Scranton Joe sent cash from the sort of people he cynically pretends to care about to the sort of people he actually cares about: the privileged, accredited, self-dealing clerisy that his ever-dwindling political party now calls its base.
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I don't know. I can kinda see both sides here. When I went to school at U of I, I took out loans, and they were low interest, easily managed, and easy to pay back. Of course, the tuition was much lower back then, so that also contributed to it being more manageable. Basically, it was another bill that I had for a while that I paid on until it was gone.
It sounds like now, some of these loans, coupled with the massive increase in tuition, are pretty damn predatory. The kind where you pay on it, and somehow, all of your payments are going to interest, and not principal, and it's never getting paid down. Ya know, kinda like loan sharking.
I also recall in my day a cap on interest rates. Apparently that was shitcanned, so of course the crooks will do whatever they can to make the most money and satisfy their shareholders in the process.
I get that they took out loans, and when you do that, you should pay it back. And I paid mine back with little difficulty. But it sounds like now, it's a real bitch.
When you put this next to governments bailing out banks, and all of the other bullshit they pull with tax breaks for billionaires, this really doesn't move the needle with me. If someone is making less that 125k, throw them 10k to help out with loans that they are genuinely trying to get out from under. Fine. Our government spends so much on bullshit, why is this pissing off so many? I don't get it.
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The mid-terms.
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Jobu, you raise good points.
Not that it makes this situation any more palatable, but has this Cooke guy been bitching about tax breaks for the wealthy and carried interest deductions for hedge fund managers?
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The mid-terms.
Yup
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The mid-terms.
Of course, he wanted to do this before the midterms. But it shouldn’t come as a surprise. Biden’s delivered on a campaign promise. Much like Trump did when he campaigned for the expansion of the barrier along the US-Mexico border. Trump initiated the project via an executive order he signed several months before the 2018 midterms. Smart political move for both Trump and Biden.
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From Mike Rowe:
I work hard on this page, (not as hard as I could, perhaps, but pretty hard), to avoid the politics of the moment, and comment only on topics that impact the foundation I’m proud to run – a foundation that awards work-ethic scholarships to individuals who choose to forego an expensive, four-year education in favor of a skilled trade. When I do weigh in, I try to acknowledge both sides of the argument, and make my points with as much respect as I can muster. Today, however, I can see only one side. Today, I can find nothing to respect in the President’s decision to transfer billions of dollars in outstanding student loans onto the backs of those people my foundation tries to assist - the same people I’ve spent the last twenty years profiling on Dirty Jobs.
With that in mind, I’m not going to write the piece I just sat down to write. Instead, I’m going to share the attached article from Charlie Cooke, who writes better than I do, and shares my disdain for what just happened. If you share our disdain, then please, share this post as well. This decision is without question, the biggest pre-Labor Day slap in the face to working people I've ever seen.
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BIDEN'S STUDENT-DEBT BONFIRE IS A CLASSIST MESSAGE TO THE UNCREDENTIALED: SCREW 'EM
By Charlie Cooke
A few moments before I sat down to write this piece, I opened the door to six guys in blue shirts who had come to my house to replace our air-conditioning units. The Florida weather being what it is, I’ve seen some of these guys work on our air conditioners before, and they’re as skilled and knowledgeable and conscientious and hard-working as you might expect. The company they work for, which is local to North Florida, was started by a guy who chose to forgo college in favor of taking out a small-business loan to strike out on his own. Most of the technicians who work for him didn’t go to college, either. They took a different path. And, well . . . what absolute chumps the president has just made of them for that!
Squirm if you like, but that’s the truth of the matter: As of today, the six air-conditioning technicians in my house are on the hook for college loans that were signed for, spent, and enjoyed by other people. Confirming the measure today, President Biden announced that any American who has both college debt they vowed to repay and an individual yearly income under $125,000 (or a family yearly income under $250,000) will be given up to $20,000 by the Treasury — which means by you, and by me, and by everyone else who pays taxes in America.
Why? Well, that’s the question.
The answer can’t be, “because that’s what the relevant law anticipates or requires.” As of yet, Congress has provided no authorization for the executive branch to arbitrarily write off some of the money that borrowers owe to taxpayers. As of yet, Congress has passed no rules that allow down-on-their-luck presidents to throw money at people for political gain. As of yet, Congress has given no instruction that if the president’s friends might like a little more cash, he can raid the Treasury to give it to them. Certainly, Congress has set up a loan program. But the deal there is rather simple, all told: First you borrow, and then you pay back what you borrowed. There is no mention of “forgiveness” days or of “help” or of rolling Chekhovian jubilees, and by pretending otherwise, President Biden is making a mockery of his oath to uphold the Constitution.
Another answer that won’t fly is, “To lower the cost of education.” As President Biden made clear today, this is a one-time deal, a lottery, a lightning strike. People who paid off their loans last week aren’t covered. People who will take out new loans after the policy has run its course aren’t covered. The problems in the system aren’t addressed. The colleges, and their endowments, are left unmolested. American culture’s increasingly credentialist presumptions aren’t altered. Within four years, overall debt will return to its present level. With the stroke of a pen, the already-fake deficit savings within the Inflation Reduction Act will be wiped out. This isn’t a reform. It’s not even pretending to be reform. It’s a contemptuous, abusive, unbelievably expensive shot in the dark — the net effect of which will be that fewer people correctly calibrate whether college is worth it, fewer colleges change their offerings to meet market demand, and, because this sort of executive giveaway will now loom large as a possibility, fewer people feel the need to save for college.
It seems so arbitrary. Why does Biden not want to do the same thing for loans on trucks owned by plumbers? Why not for mortgages — which, given how heavily it subsidizes them, the federal government clearly thinks are worthwhile? Why not for credit cards or auto payments or mom-and-pop credit lines? The answer, I’m afraid to say, is disgustingly classist: Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are better than everyone else. Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are of a finer cut. Because Joe Biden and his party prefer college students to you, and they think that those students ought to be rewarded for that by being handed enormous gobs of your money.
Electricians, store managers, deli workers, landscapers, waitresses, mechanics, entrepreneurs? Screw ’em. Sure, college graduates make more money than non-graduates, and their unemployment rate is lower, too. But non-graduates don’t have access to the president, so they don’t matter. They’re tradesmen, the riff-raff, the great unwashed. They’re background noise, dirty-handed types, second-classers. They don’t deserve $10,000 in debt reduction. What would they even do with it? Go hunting? Give it to their church? Their role is to subsidize the superior people, and the superior people go to college.
Why did Joe Biden do all this? That’s why. Why was this what Joe Biden chose to break his oath to achieve? That’s why. When it came down to it, good ol’ Scranton Joe sent cash from the sort of people he cynically pretends to care about to the sort of people he actually cares about: the privileged, accredited, self-dealing clerisy that his ever-dwindling political party now calls its base.
Is it Festivus already?
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Of course, he wanted to do this before the midterms. But it shouldn’t come as a surprise. Biden’s delivered on a campaign promise. Much like Trump did when he campaigned for the expansion of the barrier along the US-Mexico border. Trump initiated the project via an executive order he signed several months before the 2018 midterms. Smart political move for both Trump and Biden.
;D ;D ;D
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fr!!
It seems so arbitrary. Why does Biden not want to do the same thing for loans on trucks owned by plumbers? Why not for mortgages — which, given how heavily it subsidizes them, the federal government clearly thinks are worthwhile? Why not for credit cards or auto payments or mom-and-pop credit lines? The answer, I’m afraid to say, is disgustingly classist: Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are better than everyone else. Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are of a finer cut. Because Joe Biden and his party prefer college students to you, and they think that those students ought to be rewarded for that by being handed enormous gobs of your money.
Electricians, store managers, deli workers, landscapers, waitresses, mechanics, entrepreneurs? Screw ’em. Sure, college graduates make more money than non-graduates, and their unemployment rate is lower, too. But non-graduates don’t have access to the president, so they don’t matter. They’re tradesmen, the riff-raff, the great unwashed. They’re background noise, dirty-handed types, second-classers. They don’t deserve $10,000 in debt reduction. What would they even do with it? Go hunting? Give it to their church? Their role is to subsidize the superior people, and the superior people go to college.
regarding this student loan stuff, it really showcases to me how bad the pundits that aren't crazy republicans really are.
There is this big refrain "why aren't we forgiving the loan for the plumber who had to buy a truck"
The plumber gets to deduct not only the interest on that loan, but gets to depreciate the truck and deduct that off his taxes. I don't recall ever deducting my tuition from my taxes, despite it being a work requirement. Then the plumber after fully depreciating the van, eventually sells it and conveniently forgets to declare the sales price as income.
They then make the same argument about a home mortgage. Interest is also deductable, and homes are generally appreciating assets. A college education is a depreciating asset. If I were to enter the job market today with my credentials from 1992, I wouldn't get through the door.
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I only recently began thinking about this the other day, but he should have added a volunteering aspect to this. If you want the reduction, then you need to do some work for some non-profit. Yeah. I know documentation and fraud issues abound, but why not have people do something other than "apply"?
This all sounds fantastic in the weirdo utopia, but if you are trying to grow a country, you want young people being productive starting businesses or working for companies, and retirees who haven't hit the physical skids doing the volunteering. Yes, young people should do some volunteer work, that is what builds the understanding that it's part of the contract that when you have free time in retirement you should do volunteer work, but this is the time they need to make hay.
It's the same about the idiotic argument about college kids having a 20 hour a week fast food job during the school year for some sort of put some skin in the game work hard concept, instead of them studying for at least 10 of those hours and graduating more prepared. I was working at the Union Bookstore, they overscheduled me during finals week and I said "I quit". The manager said "you can't do this in the real world" and I said "I find it amusing that you feel that you work in the non-real world, and if I want to make it to the real world, the $50 I would get from working 20 hours during finals week will only drown my sorrows at Kams if I get a D in semiconductor physics and don't get that job at Intel paying 2x that an hour"
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Maybe after school choice gets going, we could get a parent loan program started for primary and secondary education. Offer to pay for high school if the children agree to serve in the military upon graduation.
We really should have a National goal that fewer people need to be in the military, not more.
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From Mike Rowe:
I work hard on this page, (not as hard as I could, perhaps, but pretty hard), to avoid the politics of the moment, and comment only on topics that impact the foundation I’m proud to run – a foundation that awards work-ethic scholarships to individuals who choose to forego an expensive, four-year education in favor of a skilled trade.
This is bullshit. I'm getting a heat pump installed next week. Solidly into 5 figures, all in. A lot of the dirty work will be done by a kid who is foregoing an expensive four year education in favor of a skilled trade. That kid will be paid at minimum $30/hr to do so. By the end of four years, he'll have earned a decent amount of money and also be well up the ladder at the HVAC company. By the end of four years - during which I paid for training instead of being paid to be trained - I earned the right to go to school for 2 more years, but at least I could teach and no longer pay tuition. That tuition waiver made me so happy, but all in it was like $7/hr.
A few moments before I sat down to write this piece, I opened the door to six guys in blue shirts who had come to my house to replace our air-conditioning units. The Florida weather being what it is, I’ve seen some of these guys work on our air conditioners before, and they’re as skilled and knowledgeable and conscientious and hard-working as you might expect. The company they work for, which is local to North Florida, was started by a guy who chose to forgo college in favor of taking out a small-business loan to strike out on his own. Most of the technicians who work for him didn’t go to college, either. They took a different path. And, well . . . what absolute chumps the president has just made of them for that!
How about that. HVAC. The small business loan that guy took out? The interest on it was a tax deduction. All the stuff he bought with that money? Tax deduction. I did not get to deduct EE 250 off my taxes.
Squirm if you like, but that’s the truth of the matter: As of today, the six air-conditioning technicians in my house are on the hook for college loans that were signed for, spent, and enjoyed by other people. Confirming the measure today, President Biden announced that any American who has both college debt they vowed to repay and an individual yearly income under $125,000 (or a family yearly income under $250,000) will be given up to $20,000 by the Treasury — which means by you, and by me, and by everyone else who pays taxes in America.
These guys installing an expensive HVAC system were on the hook for college loans. I see. Let's take a look at our author.
"In 1985, he graduated from Towson University[8][1]: 28 with a degree in communication studies."
Those chumps aren't installing a freaking top of the line HVAC system for some dude who went to wood shop. They are installing it for a guy who went to Towson, in state tuition $10,198. Some how there is this magical theory that those blue collar workers who are pounding in nails to make an honest living are building mansions and putting in $30k heat pumps for the lower middle class. Ain't so. My A/C was on the fritz, I called a guy, he came over, and 2 hours later, voila, I cut a big ass check. With my filthy UIUC Masters in EE lucre.
Another answer that won’t fly is, “To lower the cost of education.” As President Biden made clear today, this is a one-time deal, a lottery, a lightning strike. People who paid off their loans last week aren’t covered. People who will take out new loans after the policy has run its course aren’t covered. The problems in the system aren’t addressed. The colleges, and their endowments, are left unmolested.
I agree. Tuition should be zero.
It seems so arbitrary. Why does Biden not want to do the same thing for loans on trucks owned by plumbers? Why not for mortgages — which, given how heavily it subsidizes them, the federal government clearly thinks are worthwhile? Why not for credit cards or auto payments or mom-and-pop credit lines? The answer, I’m afraid to say, is disgustingly classist: Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are better than everyone else. Because Joe Biden and his party believe that college students are of a finer cut. Because Joe Biden and his party prefer college students to you, and they think that those students ought to be rewarded for that by being handed enormous gobs of your money.
Bullshit. For decades, the plumber who buys that truck has been able to deduct the interest on that loan, and depreciate the truck to zero and deduct the truck off his taxes. Then sell the truck and not claim the income against his depreciation, which is tax fraud, but I'll fade that. Mortgage interest is tax deductible. And mortgages are taken out on houses, which in the long term has always been an appreciating asset. A college education is a depreciating asset. My CS-101 class was taught in rudimentary C on a Macintosh. PERL did not exist. I would not be able to land a job today with my college education. And when I retire, my college degree basically becomes worthless, but a house will continue to appreciate forever.
Electricians, store managers, deli workers, landscapers, waitresses, mechanics, entrepreneurs? Screw ’em. Sure, college graduates make more money than non-graduates, and their unemployment rate is lower, too. But non-graduates don’t have access to the president, so they don’t matter. They’re tradesmen, the riff-raff, the great unwashed. They’re background noise, dirty-handed types, second-classers. They don’t deserve $10,000 in debt reduction. What would they even do with it? Go hunting? Give it to their church? Their role is to subsidize the superior people, and the superior people go to college.
This is the same dumbass logic that leads morons to believe that the people of West Virginia - median income 26,187 - are subsidizing the people of Santa Clara County Califiornia, median income 50,000.
Why did Joe Biden do all this? That’s why. Why was this what Joe Biden chose to break his oath to achieve? That’s why. When it came down to it, good ol’ Scranton Joe sent cash from the sort of people he cynically pretends to care about to the sort of people he actually cares about: the privileged, accredited, self-dealing clerisy that his ever-dwindling political party now calls its base.
I'm cynical. I don't know for a fact that Biden understands what I just wrote. But Mike Rowe sure as hell doesn't.
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We really should have a National goal that fewer people need to be in the military, not more.
Perhaps Trump's Space Force?
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We really should have a National goal that fewer people need to be in the military, not more.
Too bad the fucking Soviets and asshole Commie Chinese disagree. Let me know when you get back to reality from your California Dreaming.
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This all sounds fantastic in the weirdo utopia, but if you are trying to grow a country, you want young people being productive starting businesses or working for companies, and retirees who haven't hit the physical skids doing the volunteering. Yes, young people should do some volunteer work, that is what builds the understanding that it's part of the contract that when you have free time in retirement you should do volunteer work, but this is the time they need to make hay.
It's the same about the idiotic argument about college kids having a 20 hour a week fast food job during the school year for some sort of put some skin in the game work hard concept, instead of them studying for at least 10 of those hours and graduating more prepared. I was working at the Union Bookstore, they overscheduled me during finals week and I said "I quit". The manager said "you can't do this in the real world" and I said "I find it amusing that you feel that you work in the non-real world, and if I want to make it to the real world, the $50 I would get from working 20 hours during finals week will only drown my sorrows at Kams if I get a D in semiconductor physics and don't get that job at Intel paying 2x that an hour"
Guess what, they got the time to volunteer instead of looking at their phones or even posting at places like here.
Also, all those tax deductions you are harping on are available to all who own a business, home, etc , college educated or not.
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Maybe a better question is whether Cooke, Rowe, and the mythical plumber took PPP loans out that were forgiven....
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Not that I am fan of the policy, but at least there are finally some fucking Democrats around with some fucking balls to dish it out instead of just taking it up the ass as usual.
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The PPP program had loan forgiveness parameters written into the program.
Did the mentioned individuals satisfy those parameters, or nah ?
Maybe whomever has the White House twitter could address the issue, and also honor the 13 service members who lost their lives and the individuals who were injured in Kabul a year ago.
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The PPP program had loan forgiveness parameters written into the program.
Did the mentioned individuals satisfy those parameters, or nah ?
Too bad the large sums of PPP money taken out by these people were forgiven off the backs of plumbers and Womyn Studies majors.
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The PPP program had loan forgiveness parameters written into the program.
Did the mentioned individuals satisfy those parameters, or nah ?
Maybe whomever has the White House twitter could address the issue, and also honor the 13 service members who lost their lives and the individuals who were injured in Kabul a year ago.
What about the 241 U.S. military personnel that were killed in Beirut? Or the 248 soldiers that were killed in Gander, Newfoundland?
The official House Judiciary GOP Twitter account posted: "If you take out a loan, you pay it back. Period."
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The PPP program had loan forgiveness parameters written into the program.
Did the mentioned individuals satisfy those parameters, or nah ?
Maybe whomever has the White House twitter could address the issue, and also honor the 13 service members who lost their lives and the individuals who were injured in Kabul a year ago.
It’s so sad that Biden is not like the FPOTUS whose tweet storms lasted into the late night/early morning hours.
“President Biden has called the Americans who lost their lives in the bombing ‘heroes who made the ultimate sacrifice in service of our highest American ideals and while saving the lives of others. Their bravery and selflessness has enabled more than 117,000 people at risk to reach safety thus far. May God protect our troops and all those standing these dangerous days.’"
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1032044382/what-we-know-about-the-13-u-s-service-members-killed-in-the-kabul-attack
And let’s not forget all the U.S. service members and related personnel who died in the War in Afghanistan.
https://www.defense.gov/casualty.pdf
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Let's not forget these same Republicans generally oppose government hand-outs when they amount to chump change assistance for the poor.They have no problem accepting big ticket handouts for the wealthy. After all, they are eligible.
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Let's not forget these same Republicans generally oppose government hand-outs when they amount to chump change assistance for the poor.They have no problem accepting big ticket handouts for the wealthy. After all, they are eligible.
Which is weird because it seems like a good part of Trump's base are dirt poor southern rednecks.
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The PPP program had loan forgiveness parameters written into the program.
Did the mentioned individuals satisfy those parameters, or nah ?
Maybe whomever has the White House twitter could address the issue, and also honor the 13 service members who lost their lives and the individuals who were injured in Kabul a year ago.
Where are those 13 buried? In a dumpster by the river?
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https://youtu.be/VkCLPODdigE?t=18
we'll make sure that noone has the opportunity to steal an election again!
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https://youtu.be/VkCLPODdigE?t=18
we'll make sure that noone has the opportunity to steal an election again!
!!!!!!
Who is this Noone person and why would we want him or her to have an opportunity to steal an election again? Covfefe?
I do think opportunity is the key word.
Republicans are actually trying to pass laws that make it easier to steal elections.
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Who is this Noone person and why would we want him or her to have an opportunity to steal an election again? Covfefe?
I do think opportunity is the key word.
Republicans are actually trying to pass laws that make it easier to steal elections.
woosh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETi5xMzoovk
lmao
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BS that he spoke with Marines behind him while bitching about MAGA violence. WTF.....
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This presidency is like watching Weekend at Bernie’s for four years !
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I only saw a few clips, but the AP stenographers had a nice write-up in the fishwrap this morning about the tax payer funded prime-time Presidential address.
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Speaking of MAGA extremists bent on destroying the country.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1560724078633267200
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Speaking of MAGA extremists bent on destroying the country.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1560724078633267200
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That is fucking hilarious!
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“No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.” -- Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956) Sept. 19, 1926 edition of the Chicago Daily Tribune.
“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” -- paraphrase of above
“There’s a sucker / fool born every minute / day.” -- old saying attributed to Artemus Ward, Phineas Taylor Barnham, Mike McDonald, and others.
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"We have created nearly 10,000 million jobs since President Biden took office"
The French lady.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1565999932699557888
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"We have created nearly 10,000 million jobs since President Biden took office"
The French lady.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1565999932699557888
Way to go Sleepy Joe!
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Sounds like she misspook.
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Sleepy Joe apparently stopped the rail strike late last night. Probably showed up to negotiations in that Vette he was driving around at the car show.
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Here you go, Mn!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/watch-biden-fbomb-florida-hurricane
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Here you go, Mn!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/watch-biden-fbomb-florida-hurricane
OPEC+ says hi.
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OPEC+ says hi.
He's in the process of picking of Putin. If I'm that MBS jackass, I'm watching my back.
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High time for the kid gloves to come off with Saudi Arabia—the most prolific state sponsor of anti- American propaganda and terrorism on Planet Earth.
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Have any of the seniors here recently bought a school desk to hide under if POTUS gets us in a nuclear war ?
I'd like cheap, or free, because my retirement accounts have been decimated.
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Have any of the seniors here recently bought a school desk to hide under if POTUS gets us in a nuclear war ?
I'd like cheap, or free, because my retirement accounts have been decimated.
Let's do it now while we are King of the Hill.
I read an article recently about Putin's bloviating on this issue that sagaciously pointed out who in the hell is he going to nuke where there is no blowback to a) his own armed forces in the area, b) the people he is allegedly seeking to liberate, or c) the people in his own country who live near the borders in the area? Guy raised some decent points about not acting like a bunch of pussies over this.
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Let's do it now while we are King of the Hill.
I read an article recently about Putin's bloviating on this issue that sagaciously pointed out who in the hell is he going to nuke where there is no blowback to a) his own armed forces in the area, b) the people he is allegedly seeking to liberate, or c) the people in his own country who live near the borders in the area? Guy raised some decent points about not acting like a bunch of pussies over this.
Where, or when, did you get your desk ?
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Have any of the seniors here recently bought a school desk to hide under if POTUS gets us in a nuclear war ?
I'd like cheap, or free, because my retirement accounts have been decimated.
JFK says "you got this Joe".
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Let's do it now while we are King of the Hill.
I read an article recently about Putin's bloviating on this issue that sagaciously pointed out who in the hell is he going to nuke where there is no blowback to a) his own armed forces in the area, b) the people he is allegedly seeking to liberate, or c) the people in his own country who live near the borders in the area? Guy raised some decent points about not acting like a bunch of pussies over this.
Putin using a tactical nuke will achieve very little on the battlefield except deaths. It won't magically make his army any better.
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Sounds like Sleepy Joe did not get the railway issues resolved after all....
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Sounds like Sleepy Joe did not get the railway issues resolved after all....
There is a nice hole in the railroad bridge connecting Crimea and Russia.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1588626140008439810
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https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+nano&sxsrf=ALiCzsb89t6HwvTlnWw_QT5ObMhRq4B2Gw%3A1670387068509&source=hp&ei=fBWQY8nIG6mL0PEP2pqgsAI&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY5AjjDKLVzXcYQ2WA2FLebWjBOOfvrmi&ved=0ahUKEwjJ9uje1Ob7AhWpBTQIHVoNCCYQ4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=biden+nano&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BAgjECc6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOgUIABCABDoFCC4QgAQ6CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QM6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggILhCABBCxAzoLCC4QgAQQsQMQ1AI6CAgAEIAEELEDUABYkQ9g_hJoAHAAeACAAbIBiAGYCJIBAzYuNJgBAKABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:5bc27712,vid:k70u35t-SLI
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I thought he was going to do a Mork from Ork thing. That was funny. He made light of it.
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A little more on your mommies and daddies acting badly and footnote 13 re Loudon county, assuming the Loudon County superintendent is a daddy ........
From Luke Rosiak
To pass the school board's proposed trans-gender equity policy which included using the bathroom the students identify with, " On June 22, Superintendent Scott Ziegler told the public, “To my knowledge, we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms.”
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The superintendent said the sheriff's office had the alleged offender transferred to another school in the district as a result of the incident. The sheriff's office denies that.
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And from Newsweek 10-13,
During the June 22 meeting in which Smith was arrested after being dragged out, superintendent Scott Ziegler dismissed any concerns about assaults on school grounds allegedly committed by transgender students.
"I think it's important to keep our perspective on this, we've heard it several times tonight from our public speakers, but the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist."
After close to 1 year and a Grand Jury, Ziegler was fired. Ziegler was the superintendant.
"The grand jury -- which the county school board requested to disband, but a judge ultimately overruled, followed by the Virginia Supreme Court -- stated that LCPS administrators were looking out for their own best interests instead of the best interests of the school community.
"This invariably led to a stunning lack of openness, transparency and accountability, both to the public and the grand jury," the report states, specifying that jurors heard testimony from more than 40 witnesses and reviewed more than 100 pieces of evidence in order to come to their conclusions.
"They failed at every juncture."
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/loudoun-county-publis-schools-superintendent-fired-after-investigation-into-sex-assaults-on-school-grounds/65-ee144fea-9ccf-4a58-a1b1-d49b1ee078c4
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After close to 1 year and a Grand Jury, Ziegler was fired. Ziegler was the superintendant.
"The grand jury -- which the county school board requested to disband, but a judge ultimately overruled, followed by the Virginia Supreme Court -- stated that LCPS administrators were looking out for their own best interests instead of the best interests of the school community.
"This invariably led to a stunning lack of openness, transparency and accountability, both to the public and the grand jury," the report states, specifying that jurors heard testimony from more than 40 witnesses and reviewed more than 100 pieces of evidence in order to come to their conclusions.
"They failed at every juncture."
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/loudoun-county-publis-schools-superintendent-fired-after-investigation-into-sex-assaults-on-school-grounds/65-ee144fea-9ccf-4a58-a1b1-d49b1ee078c4
This has what to do with Joe Biden?
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This has what to do with Joe Biden?
His DOJ thought it was a good idea to go after parents complaining to school boards about how the kids were being treated.
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After close to 1 year and a Grand Jury, Ziegler was fired. Ziegler was the superintendant.
"The grand jury -- which the county school board requested to disband, but a judge ultimately overruled, followed by the Virginia Supreme Court -- stated that LCPS administrators were looking out for their own best interests instead of the best interests of the school community.
"This invariably led to a stunning lack of openness, transparency and accountability, both to the public and the grand jury," the report states, specifying that jurors heard testimony from more than 40 witnesses and reviewed more than 100 pieces of evidence in order to come to their conclusions.
"They failed at every juncture."
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/loudoun-county-publis-schools-superintendent-fired-after-investigation-into-sex-assaults-on-school-grounds/65-ee144fea-9ccf-4a58-a1b1-d49b1ee078c4
I don't get how this is about transgendered students or bathrooms as the assault happened in an empty classroom or is this just about educators being "sensitive" to parents complaints about serious issues?
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This nonsense about the DoJ going after parents who wanted to get involved in their children's education is another dog that didn't hunt.
Most parents agree that trained educators, not uneducated parents, should decide the curriculum.
Most teachers think parents should get involved. Join the PTA. Show up for parent teacher conferences. Send their children to school prepared with their shots and basic learning skills. Cultivate good relationships. Don't go to school board meetings with hostile attitudes making scenes and threats.
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This nonsense about the DoJ going after parents who wanted to get involved in their children's education is another dog that didn't hunt.
Most parents agree that trained educators, not uneducated parents, should decide the curriculum.
Most teachers think parents should get involved. Join the PTA. Show up for parent teacher conferences. Send their children to school prepared with their shots and basic learning skills. Cultivate good relationships. Don't go to school board meetings with hostile attitudes making scenes and threats.
I don't agree about making threats, but parents have every right to question, and confront, generally worthless superintendents, principals, and school board members. And that includes questioning the curriculums in a box they all rely upon.
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I don't agree about making threats, but parents have every right to question, and confront, generally worthless superintendents, principals, and school board members. And that includes questioning the curriculums in a box they all rely upon.
golds!
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This story about Ziegler is about a father who confronted Ziegler about his father being raped in the school bathroom.
Ziegler lied to the board members about the incident to obtain a pass vote on the school's transgender equity policy. For the superintendant, the favorable vote was apparently more important than the incident.
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I don't agree about making threats, but parents have every right to question, and confront, generally worthless superintendents, principals, and school board members. And that includes questioning the curriculums in a box they all rely upon.
There are effective and ineffective to approach people. Or maybe that is just me and my sales training. Or not. I was raised by educators and taught you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I did kind of wonder why you'd want to catch flies.
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There are effective and ineffective to approach people. Or maybe that is just me and my sales training. Or not. I was raised by educators and taught you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I did kind of wonder why you'd want to catch flies.
Don't disagree. But I've seen a few who won't do squat unless things get a little heated, unfortunately.
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This story about Ziegler is about a father who confronted Ziegler about his father being raped in the school bathroom.
Ziegler lied to the board members about the incident to obtain a pass vote on the school's transgender equity policy. For the superintendant, the favorable vote was apparently more important than the incident.
It read an empty classroom, I thought.
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Or were there 2 incidents?
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Nonetheless, Nichi, any effort to downplay x because of y, is the kind of shit that happens all the time in schools. Can't say that I've seen it happen to the extent in VA Mn cites, but still.
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It read an empty classroom, I thought.
That was the kids 2nd assault after he'd gotten transferred.
As the Grand Jury said regarding the superintendant and the school board, it appears "they failed at every juncture."
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Nonetheless, Nichi, any effort to downplay x because of y, is the kind of shit that happens all the time in schools.
And in private businesses and governments and pretty much any human institution. I still don't think inciting mob outrage is the solution.
I also don't know of any specific case of the FBI going after a parent. It appears there was a some sort of tentative heightened awareness that terrorist attacks on school boards might happen. Republican translation: the FBI is going after parents.
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And in private businesses and governments and pretty much any human institution. I still don't think inciting mob outrage is the solution.
I also don't know of any specific case of the FBI going after a parent. It appears there was a some sort of tentative heightened awareness that terrorist attacks on school boards might happen. Republican translation: the FBI is going after parents.
Not sure that saying it happens elsewhere works when it comes to, you know, schools.
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Not sure saying it should not happen in schools justifies inciting mob violence.
If a board covered up a rape; then compassionately expose the bad act and take appropriate corrective action through proper channels.
I don't support mob violence by the left (mostly caused by anarchists I am told) either.
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Not sure saying it should not happen in schools justifies inciting mob violence.
If a board covered up a rape; then compassionately expose the bad act and take appropriate corrective action through proper channels.
I don't support mob violence by the left (mostly caused by anarchists I am told) either.
Arguably mob action may be justified when the school admin is covering up rape to not endanger favored policies and calling the cops on those demanding accountability. That may work in China though with female tennis players.
Note I didn't say "mob violence"...
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Don't disagree. But I've seen a few who won't do squat unless things get a little heated, unfortunately.
The solution to that is not to "get heated", it's to run for the Board. But strangely it turns out the nutters who "get heated" always lose in a landslide.
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The solution to that is not to "get heated", it's to run for the Board. But strangely it turns out the nutters who "get heated" always lose in a landslide.
Not so sure you are right on either point.
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The solution to that is not to "get heated", it's to run for the Board. But strangely it turns out the nutters who "get heated" always lose in a landslide.
Or they don't run because that would involve taking responsibility..
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Or they don't run because that would involve taking responsibility..
Also a big time suck dealing with inconsequential shit instead of improving Reading, Writing and Math scores.
Based on Nichi and Murph"s logic, no one should bitch about what the government or elected officials are doing. Got it.
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The Board did vote to fire the guy without cause, giving him a year of salary after approving a $28k salary bump earlier.
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Also a big time suck dealing with inconsequential shit instead of improving Reading, Writing and Math scores.
Based on Nichi and Murph"s logic, no one should bitch about what the government or elected officials are doing. Got it.
Bingo! Nail meet head!
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Also a big time suck dealing with inconsequential shit instead of improving Reading, Writing and Math scores.
Based on Nichi and Murph"s logic, no one should bitch about what the government or elected officials are doing. Got it.
You can bitch about elected officials in one hand and shit in the other hand and neither one improves the three R's scores.
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You can bitch about elected officials in one hand and shit in the other hand and neither one improves the three R's scores.
True. But you can also go to meetings, bitch about the stupid shit they are doing and they may change it.
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True. But you can also go to meetings, bitch about the stupid shit they are doing and they may change it.
To a significant extent we are asking schools to overcome the damage and neglect caused by incompetent parents. The religions are failing too.
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To a significant extent we are asking schools to overcome the damage and neglect caused by incompetent parents. The religions are failing too.
I agree. But you cannot whine that you want parents to do more (or do their job, if you ask me) and then say they have no role in commenting on curriculum or whatever the fuck the school is doing.
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I agree. But you cannot whine that you want parents to do more (or do their job, if you ask me) and then say they have no role in commenting on curriculum or whatever the fuck the school is doing.
Who said I am whining? I stated an objective fact. I am not out there heckling bad parents or ineffective churches. I think most people are trying.
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Who said I am whining? I stated an objective fact. I am not out there heckling bad parents or ineffective churches. I think most people are trying.
Plenty of people are whining though. You probably missed it as it was only discussed on The Twitter.
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Maybe the solution is to give visas to some amazing Canadian teachers to bring them to US schools. Here is a great example. An amazing Industrial Arts Instructor.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11235121/amp/Canadian-high-school-says-ILLEGAL-criticize-trans-teacher-huge-prosthetic-breasts.html
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-transgender-teacher-sparks-controversy-by-wearing-giant-prosthetic-breasts-in-class/wcm/0e196ebf-ab73-4182-989e-90ee1ae57ec6/amp/
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That picture is something else.
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Maybe the solution is to give visas to some amazing Canadian teachers to bring them to US schools. Here is a great example. An amazing Industrial Arts Instructor.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11235121/amp/Canadian-high-school-says-ILLEGAL-criticize-trans-teacher-huge-prosthetic-breasts.html
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-transgender-teacher-sparks-controversy-by-wearing-giant-prosthetic-breasts-in-class/wcm/0e196ebf-ab73-4182-989e-90ee1ae57ec6/amp/
My dad used to ask me if I wanted him to give me something to cry about. For some reason, this reminded me of that.
Can you imagine the reaction of MTG, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan et al to something like that?
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My dad used to ask me if I wanted him to give me something to cry about. For some reason, this reminded me of that.
Can you imagine the reaction of MTG, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan et al to something like that?
That picture is a quite excessive.
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I don't agree about making threats, but parents have every right to question, and confront, generally worthless superintendents, principals, and school board members. And that includes questioning the curriculums in a box they all rely upon.
This worthless superintendent's indictment was unsealed today.
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This worthless superintendent's indictment was unsealed today.
Looks like indicted on 3 misdemeanors and the school PR flack has stiffer charges.
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Looks like indicted on 3 misdemeanors and the school PR flack has stiffer charges.
Fired without cause, and so he's keeping his salary for a year, with the Board approved $28K salary bump.
The father of the raped kid may have spent more time in jail than this guy will.
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Well, considering he hasn’t held up on his student loan relief promises (shocker), it’s the least they could do.
Hi JudgeJudy.
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Hi JudgeJudy.
Oh the only reason you even give a fuck is it’s free money for you. Of course it upsets you. Pay your loans and be quiet. You took them after all.
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Oh the only reason you even give a fuck is it’s free money for you. Of course it upsets you. Pay your loans and be quiet. You took them after all.
If you could read you’d know I paid mine off 10 years ago.
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If you could read you’d know I paid mine off 10 years ago.
Hi Tempo! Good for you. I’m glad you’re a responsible adult on the spectrum.
Oh I forgot to add the “😂” so you don’t go thinking I’m out to get you or something. It’s all fun and games.
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If you could read you’d know I paid mine off 10 years ago.
If you could read you'd have gotten a scholarship
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Good to see Murph so full of holiday cheer.
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Sure seems to me like Sleepy Joe had a pretty good year. Having Zelensky visit and address Congress was a political grand slam. Inflation is receding. Passed numerous legislative game changers and blunted the "red wave". It's rare that I agree with Newt but he's way underrated.
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Sure seems to me like Sleepy Joe had a pretty good year. Having Zelensky visit and address Congress was a political grand slam. Inflation is receding. Passed numerous legislative game changers and blunted the "red wave". It's rare that I agree with Newt but he's way underrated.
[Tempo]Yeah, but he did not write off student loans and give everyone free college, so he sucks[43]
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My priority would be universal healthcare over free college. Probably both face the same sort of internal resistance.
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I just saw a box of cereal for $9 and a bag of chips for $7 at Mariano’s. Not sure how much inflation is receding. At least I haven’t seen it yet.
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My priority would be universal healthcare over free college. Probably both face the same sort of internal resistance.
For sure. We’ll get neither.
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[Tempo]Yeah, but he did not write off student loans and give everyone free college, so he sucks[43]
Not surprised you think barely coherent Joe Biden is doing a great job. The corporate pigs will continue to feed at the trough. All is well.
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Not surprised you think barely coherent Joe Biden is doing a great job. The corporate pigs will continue to feed at the trough. All is well.
His name is not Trump. He would be fine if he did nothing but slept for 4 years.
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For sure. We’ll get neither.
Good, because both are fucking stupid.
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His name is not Trump. He would be fine if he did nothing but slept for 4 years.
Clearing the lowest of bars is something Joe is good at. You should be very happy if he wins re-election.
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Clearing the lowest of bars is something Joe is good at. You should be very happy if he wins re-election.
I would be. He is the buffer from the idiocy of The Squad.
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I just saw a box of cereal for $9 and a bag of chips for $7 at Mariano’s. Not sure how much inflation is receding. At least I haven’t seen it yet.
Your eyes are fucked from eating such crap
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I just saw a box of cereal for $9 and a bag of chips for $7 at Mariano’s. Not sure how much inflation is receding. At least I haven’t seen it yet.
mfin cans of soup at my grocery store are $5 lmao
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mfin cans of soup at my grocery store are $5 lmao
Not surprised you buy cans of pre-made soup, the easiest thing on the planet to cook, and for which the prepared versions have a margin of like 50%
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WTF do you guys shop? Go to Tony's or Jewels.
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Not surprised you buy cans of pre-made soup, the easiest thing on the planet to cook, and for which the prepared versions have a margin of like 50%
I will buy chunky or progresso soup on sale for when we are both too lazy to cook. Just recently paid 8 bucks for 4 cans of chunky. Still, I can remember paying less.
Beef, pork, and poultry prices have moderated around here. I just paid $3.99 for boneless chicken breast and $1.29 for leg quarters. That passes for a good price.
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mfin cans of soup at my grocery store are $5 lmao
I believe it.
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WTF do you guys shop? Go to Tony's or Jewels.
I’ve done literally all the grocery shopping in my house for 5 years. I got to the store 3x a week. Jewel is crazy high, and their prices seem to go up twice a week. A month ago I tweeted them a picture of a jar of queso dip they had “on sale” for $6.99. I sent them a photo of it and informed them that Woodman’s has been selling this exact same item for $1.39 for two months (ridiculously low, but unbelievable contrast). Jewel is far from inexpensive. Most of the stuff I buy from there is on deals. I am in Jewel, Woodman’s, and Aldi all the time. I shop enough to know who’s got the reasonable prices on what.
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Woodman’s has the best all around prices. I like Jewel’s quality, some good deals on the app. Aldi is great for bagels, Mayo, chicken broth, chips, etc. 6 pack of bagels at Jewel will run you $4.99. Aldi has fresher ones for like $1.89 now. Jacked up from $1.39. The Aldi ones are so good I sometimes don’t even toast them.
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WTF do you guys shop? Go to Tony's or Jewels.
Where I live, I can walk to Berkot's. I can drive to Walmart, Meier, Aldi's, Target, and Kroger in less than 15 minutes. Jewel is a few minutes further.
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Good, because both are fucking stupid.
You bought into the lie that insuring poor people in the same pool with the elites will harm your healthcare?
The only legitimate objection I have heard to single payer national health is that physicians might face some reduction in reimbursements compared with the top dollar private insurance. Not Medicare or Medicaid bad though.
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We’re literally the last of the industrialized country that doesn’t have some form of universal healthcare. We are rich, but backwards and stupid as a country. Progressive policies poll very popularly among the electorate. But we are controlled by corporate money and Christian conservative ideology.
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Canadians are not coming here for advanced healthcare. Americans are going to Canada for basic stuff and Asia for advanced.
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Canadians are not coming here for advanced healthcare.
Bull. Shit.
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We’re literally the last of the industrialized country that doesn’t have some form of universal healthcare. We are rich, but backwards and stupid as a country. Progressive policies poll very popularly among the electorate. But we are controlled by corporate money and Christian conservative ideology.
Yes, because Uber drivers and lazy progressives want everyone else to pay for their stuff.
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Bull. Shit.
Yeah what the fuck is he talking about?! They ABSOLUTELY ARE coming here for healthcare!!
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Yeah what the fuck is he talking about?! They ABSOLUTELY ARE coming here for healthcare!!
Myth. Canadians laugh at this.
Here is a good assessment:
Answer to How many Canadians come to America for healthcare? by Harold Zwanepol https://www.quora.com/How-many-Canadians-come-to-America-for-healthcare/answer/Harold-Zwanepol?ch=15&oid=140496387&share=85c3f2c1&srid=hniYed&target_type=answer
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"Queue jumpers. Finally, there are those Canadians who travel to the US for elective care. It is this category that some use to talk about in comparing the two systems. In Canada, it is possible to wait for elective (not emergent) surgery due to a shortage of physicians. (Canada has one of the highest median ages of OECD countries; the US physician shortage is about ten years behind (Research Shows Shortage of More than 100,000 Doctors by 2030).
It is estimated that approximately 5000 people a year come to the US for medical care under this category; out of millions of hospital visits in Canada each year.
This is almost always for faster care rather than better care. If you have an arthritic hip and need a replacement, you can jump the queue and get it done faster in the US. Some do.
This is a case of system arbitrage. In Canada, the medical system is rationed in time; in the US the system is rationed by money. If you have money, you can get to the front of the line.
On the whole, the Canadian system is both cheaper and more effective. Medical outcomes are consistently higher in Canada than in the US, except for cancer care, where the US tends to be among the best in the world."
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Yes, because Uber drivers and lazy progressives want everyone else to pay for their stuff.
I thought you were about keeping things classy?
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I thought you were about keeping things classy?
I have talked to people who would rather pay more for lousy healthcare than have their tax dollars pay for the uninsured.
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I have talked to people who would rather pay more for lousy healthcare than have their tax dollars pay for the uninsured.
I don’t doubt this in the least.
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I thought you were about keeping things classy?
Another straw man you have constructed!
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Not surprised you buy cans of pre-made soup, the easiest thing on the planet to cook, and for which the prepared versions have a margin of like 50%
I'm not paying 5 bucks for a can of soup lol
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"Queue jumpers. Finally, there are those Canadians who travel to the US for elective care. It is this category that some use to talk about in comparing the two systems. In Canada, it is possible to wait for elective (not emergent) surgery due to a shortage of physicians. (Canada has one of the highest median ages of OECD countries; the US physician shortage is about ten years behind (Research Shows Shortage of More than 100,000 Doctors by 2030).
It is estimated that approximately 5000 people a year come to the US for medical care under this category; out of millions of hospital visits in Canada each year.
This is almost always for faster care rather than better care. If you have an arthritic hip and need a replacement, you can jump the queue and get it done faster in the US. Some do.
This is a case of system arbitrage. In Canada, the medical system is rationed in time; in the US the system is rationed by money. If you have money, you can get to the front of the line.
On the whole, the Canadian system is both cheaper and more effective. Medical outcomes are consistently higher in Canada than in the US, except for cancer care, where the US tends to be among the best in the world."
If there is a Canadian doctor shortage, that doesn't seem to make sense....oh...
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2020#:~:text=The%20waiting%20time%20in%20this%20segment%20increased%20from%2010.8%20weeks,reasonable%E2%80%9D%20(7.8%20weeks).
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/fraser-institute-wait-times-medical
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/i-thought-i-might-die-at-home-canada-s-health-care-system-is-crumbling-experts-say-1.6036628
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If there is a Canadian doctor shortage, that doesn't seem to make sense....oh...
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2020#:~:text=The%20waiting%20time%20in%20this%20segment%20increased%20from%2010.8%20weeks,reasonable%E2%80%9D%20(7.8%20weeks).
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/fraser-institute-wait-times-medical
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/i-thought-i-might-die-at-home-canada-s-health-care-system-is-crumbling-experts-say-1.6036628
And no, the Canucks are noy leaving the country for medical treatment...
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-08-03/canadians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care
https://torontosun.com/news/national/canadians-continue-to-leave-the-country-for-health-care-says-new-report
And yes, they love their healthcare system at this point!!!
https://globalnews.ca/news/8940391/canadians-unhappy-provinces-health-care-angus-reid/
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This is a case of system arbitrage. In Canada, the medical system is rationed in time...
Is arbitrage a French Canadian word for Death Panels?
Ummmmm.....
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/10/canada-has-death-panels-and-thats-a-good-thing.html
https://financialpost.com/opinion/william-watson-covid-19-death-panels-come-to-canadas-health-care-monopoly
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The financial post is generally factually accurate for a right of center publication, but their free market bias clearly shows here. Sorry, but the US spends almost 20% of gdp on healthcare. That is significantly more than Canada's just over 12%.
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Canadians are not coming here for advanced healthcare. Americans are going to Canada for basic stuff and Asia for advanced.
I might argue that coming to the U.S. for superior cancer therapy is advanced healthcare.
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The US has the “best” healthcare in the world. It’s also one of the least accessible and the least affordable. Americans love to talk about “freedom,” and “freedom of choice.” How fucking free are you if you are unable or terrified to leave a job you hate because you’re afraid you’ll lose your healthcare? How fucking “free” is that person. The notion that your healthcare is tied to your job (if you’re lucky enough to get good healthcare to your job) is insanity. And I would argue not a high level of “freedom.” If someone can leave their job knowing they’ll still get quality healthcare, now that’s something I would call “freedom.”
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Go fund me shouldn’t be a fucking health care plan. Not in today’s world.
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I might argue that coming to the U.S. for superior cancer therapy is advanced healthcare.
Yet 13,000 Americans year get medical visas to go to India a year, many for cancer treatments. The best is only better if you can afford it.
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Even the great economic minds who advocated free markets admitted they have limits. Healthcare is one of the things that does not work in a free market, in part because it is simply way too expensive finance out-of-pocket for the vast majority. There are other more arcane reasons, but we don't even need to go there.
That is why we have a third party funding vehicle called health insurance. I could go through the whole fuvking history, but we don't have time. Third party itself create some anti-market issues; which become an excuse for large deductibles and copay; which are really designed to discourage "overuse" of healthcare. You jerks over use routine healthcare unless you have to pay out of pocket!
The bigger problem with using insurance to finance healthcare is insurance is intended to finance risks, not needs. That is why catastrophic health insurance makes more financial sense.
Left to operate in a free market, insurers try to limit risk exposure. They deny coverage, add exclusion riders, charge extra premium, close pools, or cancel policies to avoid to covering people they deem uninsurable. This keeps their rates low and profits high.
The problem is this defeats the social purpose of having health insurance, since those who need it the most do not have it.
So state and federal governments come up with a hodgepodge of often redundant, contradictory, confusing, expensive regulations and subsidies to try and somehow make health insurance work.
It was probably close to 30 years ago some major insurance companies quietly assembled a work group of brokers, agents, and underwriters to figure out how to fix the mess. They had two ideas:
1. Tweak Medicare and expand it to cover everyone. Medicare for All. National health insurance.
2. Mandatory private health insurance with tax credit subsidies and tax penalty incentives. Obamacare went this direction.
I gather nationalized healthcare was not seriously considered. I don't think there was any enthusiasm to privatize Medicare either. From what I recall agents were skeptical about flex spending and msa / has type plans.I liked the concepts of msa / hsa plans back then, basically buy catastrophic and invest the difference.
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The notion that your healthcare is tied to your job (if you’re lucky enough to get good healthcare to your job) is insanity.
Blame FDR. Employers started offering health insurance as a way to get around WWII wage freezes.
If we banned health insurance, med mal insurance, and instituted tort reform, would health care costs go down?
****Maybe Nichi can opine.
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I (was) friends with a conservative Republican couple where the husband got cancer and was booted off insurance. They were mad that they were basically forced to go onto Obamacare, ironically not understanding that if not for Obamacare their option was *nothing.*
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Blame FDR. Employers started offering health insurance as a way to get around WWII wage freezes.
If we banned health insurance, med mal insurance, and instituted tort reform, would health care costs go down?
****Maybe Nichi can opine.
Health insurance at work is better than nothing. Ditto Medicare. Take those away, only the wealthy could afford healthcare.
Healthcare as we know it for the elderly, middle class, and poor would vanish. Whatever was left would certainly cost less.
There would likely be a large increase in private charites opening free clinics.
Elimination of health insurance would pave the way for national healthcare -- VA for all.
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It's like suggesting that college tuition would go down if we eliminated the student loan program and replaced it with nothing.
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So Nichi says "No."
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"October 11, 2022, statement
The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), in accordance with the Presidential Records Act, assumed physical and legal custody of the Presidential records from the administrations of Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan, when those Presidents left office. NARA securely moved these records to temporary facilities that NARA leased from the General Services Administration (GSA), near the locations of the future Presidential Libraries that former Presidents built for NARA. All such temporary facilities met strict archival and security standards, and have been managed and staffed exclusively by NARA employees. Reports that indicate or imply that those Presidential records were in the possession of the former Presidents or their representatives, after they left office, or that the records were housed in substandard conditions, are false and misleading."
https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001
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More documents found.
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More documents found.
Maybe we should be asking what documents he didn't take?
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Maybe we should be asking what documents he didn't take?
The documents were found Thur, apparently by his attorney with no security clearance. The French lady did say yesterday that they were being transparent.
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Maybe we should be asking what documents he didn't take?
I think the much bigger question here is why did Trump let Senile Joe get away with stealing secret docs? Trump did jack squat about it for four years. He had every opportunity to dispatch MAGA-loyal federal law enforcement into that Chi-Com think tank building and tear it into pieces like Biden did to Mar-a-Lago. Which would mean Trump either got outsmarted by Biden or he let him off the hook, which is another bigly fail for our Orange Warlord.
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I think the much bigger question here is why did Trump let Senile Joe get away with stealing secret docs? Trump did jack squat about it for four years. He had every opportunity to dispatch MAGA-loyal federal law enforcement into that Chi-Com think tank building and tear it into pieces like Biden did to Mar-a-Lago. Which would mean Trump either got outsmarted by Biden or he let him off the hook, which is another bigly fail for our Orange Warlord.
Warlord lol
You mean the guy that didn't drag us into a war for the first time since Jimmy Carter?
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Warlord lol
You mean the guy that didn't drag us into a war for the first time since Jimmy Carter?
No I mean the guy who dragged us into an insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
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They could do us all a favor and lock up Trump and Joe before '24.
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I think the much bigger question here is why did Trump let Senile Joe get away with stealing secret docs? Trump did jack squat about it for four years. He had every opportunity to dispatch MAGA-loyal federal law enforcement into that Chi-Com think tank building and tear it into pieces like Biden did to Mar-a-Lago. Which would mean Trump either got outsmarted by Biden or he let him off the hook, which is another bigly fail for our Orange Warlord.
Biden misdirected him with the laptop
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They could do us all a favor and lock up Trump and Joe before '24.
The real favor would be a cage match.
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No I mean the guy who dragged us into an insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
What do you mean us?
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What do you mean us?
Indeed. Should have just said "You"
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They could do us all a favor and lock up Trump and Joe before '24.
That’s a platform I could support.
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I think the much bigger question here is why did Trump let Senile Joe get away with stealing secret docs? Trump did jack squat about it for four years. He had every opportunity to dispatch MAGA-loyal federal law enforcement into that Chi-Com think tank building and tear it into pieces like Biden did to Mar-a-Lago. Which would mean Trump either got outsmarted by Biden or he let him off the hook, which is another bigly fail for our Orange Warlord.
You can’t be serious.
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President Biden
@POTUS
14h
United States government official
President Zelenskyy and all Ukrainians remind the world every day what courage is.
They remind us that freedom is priceless.
And worth fighting for.
For as long as it takes.
Any mention of Washington or Lincoln on President's Day ?
Nah.
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President Biden
@POTUS
14h
United States government official
President Zelenskyy and all Ukrainians remind the world every day what courage is.
They remind us that freedom is priceless.
And worth fighting for.
For as long as it takes.
Any mention of Washington or Lincoln on President's Day ?
Nah.
Mn, look at the plus side.
At least he did not call for States to secede from The Union on Presidents' Day like MTG did.
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Mn, look at the plus side.
At least he did not call for States to secede from The Union on Presidents' Day like MTG did.
ThePAMan, look on the plus side.
At least she's in the USA talking about the USA, instead of going to Ukraine to hand out U.S. cash to the courageous President of Ukraine.
Nice photo op with the air raid sirens too.
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This Ukraine thing is a fucking sham
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ThePAMan, look on the plus side.
At least she's in the USA talking about the USA, instead of going to Ukraine to hand out U.S. cash to the courageous President of Ukraine.
Nice photo op with the air raid sirens too.
(https://i.ibb.co/5kcQdcz/Screenshot-20230221-052403.jpg)
Glad he went. Keep giving them the $ and arms they need to defeat the Soviets.
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This Ukraine thing is a fucking sham
This explanation should be interesting....
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At least she's in the USA talking about the USA, instead of going to Ukraine to hand out U.S. cash to the courageous President of Ukraine.
Yeah, probably the America First crowd was right all along. /s
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This explanation should be interesting....
It looks like a large majority of Americans still sides with Ukraine, though support for aid might be waning a little.
I don't know of many who look at it and see a sham, except for Putin's fake claims.
A few seem to have a different take on their Revolution of Dignity.
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It looks like a large majority of Americans still sides with Ukraine, though support for aid might be waning a little.
I don't know of many who look at it and see a sham, except for Putin's fake claims.
A few seem to have a different take on their Revolution of Dignity.
Seems kind of simple: Putin wants to turn back the clock to re-form the USSR. The populace in those areas prefer freedom. Who knew?
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Yeah, probably the America First crowd was right all along. /s
She is talking about breaking America apart. Sorry your side lost the war, hun.
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She is talking about breaking America apart. Sorry your side lost the war, hun.
Missing point? MN was seemingly upset that Biden was in Ukraine giving away our tax dollars on Prez day. My response was /s.
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Seems kind of simple: Putin wants to turn back the clock to re-form the USSR. The populace in those areas prefer freedom. Who knew?
But they illegally forced out a democratically elected president! /s (sarcasm)
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It looks like a large majority of Americans still sides with Ukraine, though support for aid might be waning a little.
I don't know of many who look at it and see a sham, except for Putin's fake claims.
A few seem to have a different take on their Revolution of Dignity.
why are we paying Ukrainian pensions exactly?
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Missing point? MN was seemingly upset that Biden was in Ukraine giving away our tax dollars on Prez day. My response was /s.
I got it.
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If the POTUS Twitter writers are going to mention great Presidents on Presidents Day, maybe a mention of Washington and Lincoln might be in order.
It is a U.S. national holiday for U.S. Presidents.
Not a word about Presidents Day tho. They're too busy with some guy in a foreign country.
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If the POTUS Twitter writers are going to mention great Presidents on Presidents Day, maybe a mention of Washington and Lincoln might be in order.
It is a U.S. national holiday for U.S. Presidents.
Not a word about Presidents Day tho. They're too busy with some guy in a foreign country.
Well, at least the guy in the foreign country is battling for freedom like Washington and Lincoln as well. So there is that. If our Republic can survive Jan. 6th and MTG's The Twitter account, I think it can survive whatever is not mentioned in Sleepy Joe's The Twitter account.
Sorry The Ukraine has been busy spoiling the plans of certain treacherous Republicans!
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If the POTUS Twitter writers are going to mention great Presidents on Presidents Day, maybe a mention of Washington and Lincoln might be in order.
It is a U.S. national holiday for U.S. Presidents.
Not a word about Presidents Day tho. They're too busy with some guy in a foreign country.
So many grievances, so little time. Don't turn on the TV news today, you won't like what you'll see.
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She is talking about breaking America apart. Sorry your side lost the war, hun.
So you’re ok with Ukraine doing it but just not State’s in the U.S.?!
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So you’re ok with Ukraine doing it but just not State’s in the U.S.?!
Huh? Can't wait for this explanation.....
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Mn, look at the plus side.
At least he did not call for States to secede from The Union on Presidents' Day like MTG did.
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Are you intimating that The Ukraine's exit from the USSR, when the USSR melted down, is comparable to the Confederacy seeking to secede in the immediate prelude to the Civil War? (This, of course, ignores how The Ukraine got forced into the USSR in the first place and how it is incomparable to the United States' creation, but let's see where this goes.)
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I think Zelenskyy being called "5'7"" is being generous.
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Are you intimating that The Ukraine's exit from the USSR, when the USSR melted down, is comparable to the Confederacy seeking to secede in the immediate prelude to the Civil War? (This, of course, ignores how The Ukraine got forced into the USSR in the first place and how it is incomparable to the United States' creation, but let's see where this goes.)
You answered. Just wanted your thoughts.
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You answered. Just wanted your thoughts.
Well, I guess I didn't waste all that time studying the Russian Revolution(s) through the subsequent Cold War. Yay me.
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why are we paying Ukrainian pensions exactly?
Helping temporarily prop up their pensions, social welfare, and healthcare is humanitarian aid.
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You answered. Just wanted your thoughts.
How about Crimea "seceding" from Ukraine? Are you okay with that?
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How about Crimea "seceding" from Ukraine? Are you okay with that?
Give the people what they want.
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Are you intimating that The Ukraine's exit from the USSR, when the USSR melted down, is comparable to the Confederacy seeking to secede in the immediate prelude to the Civil War? (This, of course, ignores how The Ukraine got forced into the USSR in the first place and how it is incomparable to the United States' creation, but let's see where this goes.)
Yeah, that was so big of a reach I didn’t know where he was going with that.
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How about Crimea "seceding" from Ukraine? Are you okay with that?
Sleepy Joe now cleaning up Obama's mess...
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Give the people what they want.
Even by gunpoint....
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Yeah, that was so big of a reach I didn’t know where he was going with that.
I'm just thinking he had second thoughts on where he was going with that one....
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Even by gunpoint....
Some rob you with a 6 gun, some with a fountain pen.
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😁
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Give the people what they want.
Capitalism does that, but first tells them what they want..
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ThePAMan, look on the plus side.
At least she's in the USA talking about the USA, instead of going to Ukraine to hand out U.S. cash to the courageous President of Ukraine.
I believe that's "Talking about the dissolution of the USA"
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https://www.the-sun.com/news/7560860/president-joe-biden-stumbles-air-force-one-again/
The Soviets have apparently greased the Air Force One stairs. They are sneaky bastards.
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Everyone knows it’s Trump’s fault
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Who gives a shit?
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https://www.the-sun.com/news/7560860/president-joe-biden-stumbles-air-force-one-again/
The Soviets have apparently greased the Air Force One stairs. They are sneaky bastards.
FDR couldn't walk. He's ranked in the top 5 presidents of all time by most any measure.
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Old man stumbles walking up steps. News at 11.
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Getting this in before Tempo does....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-administration-says-schools-may-bar-trans-athletes-from-competitive-teams/ar-AA19ySBj
The Biden administration on Thursday proposed new regulations that would allow schools to bar transgender athletes from participating in competitive high school and college sports, but disallow blanket bans on the athletes that have been approved across the country.
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Getting this in before Tempo does....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-administration-says-schools-may-bar-trans-athletes-from-competitive-teams/ar-AA19ySBj
The Biden administration on Thursday proposed new regulations that would allow schools to bar transgender athletes from participating in competitive high school and college sports, but disallow blanket bans on the athletes that have been approved across the country.
Is there anything in the proposal for Riley Gaines to get her life back ?
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Is there anything in the proposal for Riley Gaines to get her life back ?
Get her life back?
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I don’t understand why Tempo hates biological females.
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Just a constant barrage of bad faith narrative, I love it.
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I don’t understand why Tempo hates biological females.
Because they could never know anything worthwhile about football.
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Because they could never know anything worthwhile about football.
Now we’re getting somewhere!
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Mn!!!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/irs-whistleblower-says-u-s-is-mishandling-hunter-biden-probe-7cd127f2
An IRS supervisor has told lawmakers he has information that suggests the Biden administration is improperly handling the criminal investigation into President Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, and is seeking whistleblower protections, according to people familiar with the matter.
A letter sent to Congress on Tuesday says a career Internal Revenue Service criminal supervisory special agent has information that would contradict sworn testimony by a “senior political appointee.” The supervisor also has information about a “failure to mitigate clear conflicts of interest in the ultimate disposition of the case,” according to the letter.
The supervisor has details that show “preferential treatment and politics improperly infecting decisions and protocols that would normally be followed by career law enforcement professionals in similar circumstances if the subject were not politically connected,” according to the letter.
The letter says the supervisor has been overseeing an “ongoing and sensitive investigation of a high-profile, controversial subject since early 2020,” which it doesn’t name. The investigation at issue is into the younger Mr. Biden, the people familiar with the matter said.
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Mn!!!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/irs-whistleblower-says-u-s-is-mishandling-hunter-biden-probe-7cd127f2
An IRS supervisor has told lawmakers he has information that suggests the Biden administration is improperly handling the criminal investigation into President Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, and is seeking whistleblower protections, according to people familiar with the matter.
A letter sent to Congress on Tuesday says a career Internal Revenue Service criminal supervisory special agent has information that would contradict sworn testimony by a “senior political appointee.” The supervisor also has information about a “failure to mitigate clear conflicts of interest in the ultimate disposition of the case,” according to the letter.
The supervisor has details that show “preferential treatment and politics improperly infecting decisions and protocols that would normally be followed by career law enforcement professionals in similar circumstances if the subject were not politically connected,” according to the letter.
The letter says the supervisor has been overseeing an “ongoing and sensitive investigation of a high-profile, controversial subject since early 2020,” which it doesn’t name. The investigation at issue is into the younger Mr. Biden, the people familiar with the matter said.
I'm old enough to remember when this was nothing more, lol, than a tax issue and a gun charge and any supporting information in the laptop was RuSsiAn DiSiNfoRMaTioN.
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Mn!!!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/irs-whistleblower-says-u-s-is-mishandling-hunter-biden-probe-7cd127f2
An IRS supervisor has told lawmakers he has information that suggests the Biden administration is improperly handling the criminal investigation into President Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, and is seeking whistleblower protections, according to people familiar with the matter.
A letter sent to Congress on Tuesday says a career Internal Revenue Service criminal supervisory special agent has information that would contradict sworn testimony by a “senior political appointee.” The supervisor also has information about a “failure to mitigate clear conflicts of interest in the ultimate disposition of the case,” according to the letter.
The supervisor has details that show “preferential treatment and politics improperly infecting decisions and protocols that would normally be followed by career law enforcement professionals in similar circumstances if the subject were not politically connected,” according to the letter.
The letter says the supervisor has been overseeing an “ongoing and sensitive investigation of a high-profile, controversial subject since early 2020,” which it doesn’t name. The investigation at issue is into the younger Mr. Biden, the people familiar with the matter said.
This must be the guy who oversaw the audits for Comey and McCabe and assigned one agent the 10 year project of looking at Trump's return.
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I'm old enough to remember when this was nothing more, lol, than a tax issue and a gun charge and any supporting information in the laptop was RuSsiAn DiSiNfoRMaTioN.
Looks like it is still a tax issue! Maybe he had a surreptitious Soviet posing as an accountant.
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Looks like it is still a tax issue! Maybe he had a surreptitious Soviet posing as an accountant.
Could probably be any one of 3-5 nationalities.
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Could probably be any one of 3-5 nationalities.
It could be, but I would not be surprised if it was only one.
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I'm old enough to remember when this was nothing more, lol, than a tax issue and a gun charge and any supporting information in the laptop was RuSsiAn DiSiNfoRMaTioN.
Nicely played.
None of us thinks that Biden is the answer. We are just looking forwards to putting Trump and Biden out to pasture so we can look forwards to a fleet of Democrats having to take on the wonder that is Ron DeSantis.
The worst thing that Trump could do to the country is finishing of DeSantis before the primaries get going. Which - it looks like that's going to happen. Then again, even though Nikki Haley or Tim Scott or Asa Hutchinson won't fire up the Democrats like DeSantis will, they will put the GOP base to sleep.
It's over.
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I actually have a friend complain that it is the Democrats fault that Trump is leading the GOP at this point....
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I actually have a friend complain that it is the Democrats fault that Trump is leading the GOP at this point....
In related news...two more congressman from Florida plan to endorse Trump.
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In related news...two 6more congressman from Florida plan to endorse Trump.
The DeSantis eating pudding with 3 fingers ad was genius by the Dems.
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I actually have a friend complain that it is the Democrats fault that Trump is leading the GOP at this point....
That’s nothing. I have a “friend” who thinks listening to The Score is basically equivalent to supporting the 1/6 insurrection.
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That’s nothing. I have a “friend” who thinks listening to The Score is basically equivalent to supporting the 1/6 insurrection.
Smart guy, that is.
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“If we are right,” they added, “this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.”
"The real power here however is the number of former, working-level IC officers who want the American people to know that once again the Russians are interfering.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276
And if you're just fibbing ? But be careful out there, those dastardly RuSsiAnS are EVeRywHeRe.
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The clear message ?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands ....
except in June.
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45,000 people die each year because of lack of access to healthcare, who cares?! Hang a flag inappropriately?! Now that’ll get a conservative’s ire up!
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45,000 people die each year because of lack of access to healthcare, who cares?! Hang a flag inappropriately?! Now that’ll get a conservative’s ire up!
What's inappropriate? There are 2 US flags in the image, and there is no call to pledge allegiance to the pride flag.
If they flew the POW/MIA flag would he have a problem with that? He probably was hoping for a blue lives matter flag.
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What's inappropriate? There are 2 US flags in the image, and there is no call to pledge allegiance to the pride flag.
If they flew the POW/MIA flag would he have a problem with that? He probably was hoping for a blue lives matter flag.
I believe the US Flag should be in the center according to code. But I was conceding him his grievance in favor of what I’d call the larger issue.
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What's inappropriate? There are 2 US flags in the image, and there is no call to pledge allegiance to the pride flag.
If they flew the POW/MIA flag would he have a problem with that? He probably was hoping for a blue lives matter flag.
And I agree, you’re basically emphasizing my point.
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"When displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, place the U.S. flag to your left. Its staff should also be in front of the other flag’s staff. In a group of flags displayed from staffs, the U.S. flag should be at the center and the highest point."
"People commonly violate the Flag Code when displaying the Stars and Stripes on apparel, athletic uniforms or bedding. The only exception is made for military personnel, firemen, policemen and members of patriotic organizations who are allowed to wear a flag patch that is customized for their uniform."
"Is Violating the Flag Code Illegal?
No. While the U.S. Flag Code is a federal law, guidelines are only stated within the voluntary and non-binding language such as, "should" and "custom," meaning there is no penalty for violating any of its provisions. This is because of the Supreme Court's act in declaring the law unconstitutional in United States v. Eichman."
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/national-international/what-is-the-us-flag-code-and-how-does-it-work/2649925/
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Only funny because it isn’t funny.
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Only funny because it isn’t funny.
you're right, its not funny
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you're right, its not funny
Yep, sad times when we attempt to recognize everyone as equal.
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I see our resident homophobes are out in force today.
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I see our resident homophobes are out in force today.
And people like to kid themselves into thinking Dom was the only awful person here.
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Buggy cartoon. Russian tanks are generally broken down and their troops don't have binoculars
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmmC4KdEMFU&ab_channel=CoachSchumanSportsandEntertainment
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https://thehill.com/business/4045941-how-bidens-big-investments-spurred-a-factory-boom/
Doesn't he know that calling people idiots, stupidheads, blah blah blah is more effective in winning votes?
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https://thehill.com/business/4045941-how-bidens-big-investments-spurred-a-factory-boom/
Doesn't he know that calling people idiots, stupidheads, blah blah blah is more effective in winning votes?
You are right. I wouldn't expect Biden to call the extreme MAGAs stupidheads, idiots, etc. I think he prefers to use the term "semi-fascism".
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You are right. I wouldn't expect Biden to call the extreme MAGAs stupidheads, idiots, etc. I think he prefers to use the term "semi-fascism".
Maybe that goes over their heads.
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(https://i.ibb.co/2NdrZky/Screenshot-20230610-215449.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k1XTmSx)
The clear message ?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands ....
except in June.
Nothing as of yet in the POTUS or White House twitter about Flag Day.
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"I urge all Americans to observe Flag Day and National Flag Week by displaying the flag and honoring all of our brave service members and revering those who gave their last full measure of devotion defending our freedoms,"
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/06/09/a-proclamation-on-flag-day-and-national-flag-week-2023
He issued an official proclamation about Flag Day and Week.
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"I urge all Americans to observe Flag Day and National Flag Week by displaying the flag and honoring all of our brave service members and revering those who gave their last full measure of devotion defending our freedoms,"
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/06/09/a-proclamation-on-flag-day-and-national-flag-week-2023
He issued an official proclamation about Flag Day and Week.
He has you there, Mn!
I need to go put my flag out.
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That is from a briefing last week. Today is Flag Day.
I've had my flag out since sun up.
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Would you have rather his PR team post about it on Twitter than him make an official Presidential proclamation?
Amazing the things snowflakes find to be offended about these days.
Like on one hand we have liberals who get offended when people say racist or bigoted stuff, and on the other hand we have conservatives who get offended that Biden didn't tweet about Flag Day and instead only issued an official presidential proclamation. Both sides.
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Conservatives love them the shit out of superficial displays of patriotism. Ask them to pay a little extra in taxes to help out their less fortunate countrymen and they lose their shit.
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It's really not that hard to put something about Flag Day on their social media accounts, on Flag Day.
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Nor does it matter practically even one tiny little bit whether he tweets about flag day, especially when he already put out an official presidential proclamation about it. Just a thing to clutch pearls about, nothing more.
It's also 1:30PM.
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Nor does it matter practically even one tiny little bit whether he tweets about flag day, especially when he already put out an official presidential proclamation about it. Just a thing to clutch pearls about, nothing more.
It's also 1:30PM.
Posting the Flag Day photo on the Gram is a huge source of national pride for Mn. Pay some extra taxes to help less fortunate countrymen, and he loses his shit.
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Conservatives love them the shit out of superficial displays of patriotism. Ask them to pay a little extra in taxes to help out their less fortunate countrymen and they lose their shit.
Meanwhile, you won't provide a $3 Uber fare to help out one of your less fortunate countrymen.
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Meanwhile, you won't provide a $3 Uber fare to help out one of your less fortunate countrymen.
LOL.
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Posting the Flag Day photo on the Gram is a huge source of national pride for Mn. Pay some extra taxes to help less fortunate countrymen, and he loses his shit.
I didn't know that is frowned on.
And I've been paying taxes for 55+ years. What did I lose my shit over ?
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Meanwhile, you won't provide a $3 Uber fare to help out one of your less fortunate countrymen.
Not part of his "terms".
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I didn't know that is frowned on.
And I've been paying taxes for 55+ years. What did I lose my shit over ?
You have not lost your shit 97's trolling. You have not lost your shit for telling Spark he was not "winning Judge Judy's heart and mind" here. You have not lost your shit over me being right on the Illini Free Shot shooting. You have not lost your shit over Jobu's fake death.
You lost your shit over Joe Biden banning a trans person for bearing their breasts on the White House lawn and the Commie Chinese Party over COVID.
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You have not lost your shit 97's trolling. You have not lost your shit for telling Spark he was not "winning Judge Judy's heart and mind" here. You have not lost your shit over me being right on the Illini Free Shot shooting. You have not lost your shit over Jobu's fake death.
You lost your shit over Joe Biden banning a trans person for bearing their breasts on the White House lawn and the Commie Chinese Party over COVID.
Tax money paid for the party, but I don't remember complaining about that.
Can people be banned from entering federal property ?
And guilty as charged over what I've said about Covid.
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And guilty as charged over what I've said about Covid.
Don't expect any credit from some people here if ever proven 1,000% right on that one.
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This certainly is an interesting read...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12316277/IRS-Whistleblower-X-revealed-gay-Democrat-Joe-Ziegler-compared-coming-forward-Hunter-Biden-case-coming-out.html
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12325023/Hunter-Bidens-lawyer-Kevin-Morris-seen-smoking-BONG-balcony-LA-home-clearly-visible-road-visit-presidents-son.html
Pictures included...wow.
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Hilarious.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12325023/Hunter-Bidens-lawyer-Kevin-Morris-seen-smoking-BONG-balcony-LA-home-clearly-visible-road-visit-presidents-son.html
Pictures included...wow.
The FD-1023 pictures ? ;D
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Someone photographed doing something legal in their own home. Fascinating.
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Not a highlight video of Fields hitting Moore, but .....
An internal email to Zuckerberg and the COO among a batch of stuff Facebook fessed up rather than Zuckerberg looking at a contempt charge.
(https://i.ibb.co/y8Y00Pg/20230728-060616.png) (https://ibb.co/sF6jjRs)
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Not a highlight video of Fields hitting Moore, but .....
An internal email to Zuckerberg and the COO among a batch of stuff Facebook fessed up rather than Zuckerberg looking at a contempt charge.
(https://i.ibb.co/y8Y00Pg/20230728-060616.png) (https://ibb.co/sF6jjRs)
Sleepy Joe was awake long enough to discourage misinformation that could help save lives? I don't know how he can do all the dastardly things he does in the hour a day he works.
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Sleepy Joe was awake long enough to discourage misinformation that could help save lives? I don't know how he can do all the dastardly things he does in the hour a day he works.
Did you miss the "authoritative information" and "humorous meme" parts ?
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Did you miss the "authoritative information" and "humorous meme" parts ?
Humorous until it kills you!
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Not a highlight video of Fields hitting Moore, but .....
(https://i.ibb.co/y8Y00Pg/20230728-060616.png) (https://ibb.co/sF6jjRs)
You are hilariously simple and consistent.
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Not as simple as golf, though. So you’ve at least got him beat.
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You are hilariously simple and consistent.
I see the Fields comment caught your attention, but that looks to be about it.
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People who believe in science [ask] that anti-science propaganda not be proliferated. News at 11.
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Mn is the best poster here, sad you can't see why
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Mn is the best poster here, sad you can't see why
Lulz.
No wonder this place sucks so bad.
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Mn is the best poster here, sad you can't see why
🎯
😂
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People who believe in science [ask] that anti-science propaganda not be proliferated. News at 11.
One thing Golf is actually right about is that “science” (big pharma) really got the bleeding hearts to carry their water.
Making memes about or questioning sketchy scientific data put forth by the very massive corporations that stood to benefit the most is perfectly reasonable, not a right wing conspiracy theory.
Lots of ordinary people lost their livelihoods, careers and reputations for rightfully pushing back against the big money interests, and the left cheered.
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One thing Golf is actually right about is that “science” (big pharma) really got the bleeding hearts to carry their water.
Making memes about or questioning sketchy scientific data put forth by the very massive corporations that stood to benefit the most is perfectly reasonable, not a right wing conspiracy theory.
Lots of ordinary people lost their livelihoods, careers and reputations for rightfully pushing back against the big money interests, and the left cheered.
Tempo would like to break your fucking face
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One thing Golf is actually right about is that “science” (big pharma) really got the bleeding hearts to carry their water.
Making memes about or questioning sketchy scientific data put forth by the very massive corporations that stood to benefit the most is perfectly reasonable, not a right wing conspiracy theory.
Lots of ordinary people lost their livelihoods, careers and reputations for rightfully pushing back against the big money interests, and the left cheered.
I won’t say you’re entirely wrong. Big Pharma definitely stood to profit. But the vaccine is safe and helped us get back to normal. This is the typical Fox News mindset that understand there are nefarious actors at work, but overlook the more insidious stuff and have a laser like focus on the lesser evils.
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Tempo would like to break your fucking face
No. No. Can’t recall ever thinking that I’d like to break Custard’s face. Just yours. It’s literally the only face I ever long to break.
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No. No. Can’t recall ever thinking that I’d like to break Custard’s face. Just yours. It’s literally the only face I ever long to break.
Well, give Custard some time. Maybe he'll change your mind.
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Well, give Custard some time. Maybe he'll change your mind.
The probably 10-15 years we’ve posted together isn’t enough?
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The probably 10-15 years we’ve posted together isn’t enough?
I don't know. We've been posting together a long time as well.
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My username on Scort Borad says I signed up in 2004, and I was on IB well before that.
I took a break from the boards from about 07-09 I believe, got roped back in with some decent recruiting, but ultimately my long running anti-Weber schtick earned me a long vacation at TOS. Which led me to OGHQ aka the Island of Misfit Toys.
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My username on Scort Borad says I signed up in 2004, and I was on IB well before that.
I took a break from the boards from about 07-09 I believe, got roped back in with some decent recruiting, but ultimately my long running anti-Weber schtick earned me a long vacation at TOS. Which led me to OGHQ aka the Island of Misfit Toys.
So we’ve basically been “Internet buds” for 20 years. What was your old username again?
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I joined the boards just before the 2004-2005 season. Knew something special was coming that year. Jesus, hope I don’t get called out for claiming to be “AOTC.”
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Mn is the best poster here, sad you can't see why
Mn is our resident expert at obscuring and obfuscating stuff, using a word salad approach filled with cherry-picked data and information. No wonder you like his posts.
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Mn is our resident expert at obscuring and obfuscating stuff, using a word salad approach filled with cherry-picked data and information. No wonder you like his posts.
Also master of the super repetitive one line hit and run post.
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One thing Golf is actually right about is that “science” (big pharma) really got the bleeding hearts to carry their water.
Making memes about or questioning sketchy scientific data put forth by the very massive corporations that stood to benefit the most is perfectly reasonable, not a right wing conspiracy theory.
Lots of ordinary people lost their livelihoods, careers and reputations for rightfully pushing back against the big money interests, and the left cheered.
Feel bad for all the people that died because they were fed a steady diet of false or misleading information.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099070400/how-vaccine-misinformation-made-the-covid-19-death-toll-worse
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They suffered from FDS.
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Feel bad for all the people that died because they were fed a steady diet of false or misleading information.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099070400/how-vaccine-misinformation-made-the-covid-19-death-toll-worse
They don’t count. They were weak.
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Feel bad for all the people that died because they were fed a steady diet of false or misleading information.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099070400/how-vaccine-misinformation-made-the-covid-19-death-toll-worse
The 1st paragraph is misinformation.
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The 1st paragraph is misinformation.
Expound.
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Expound.
What's your preference ? Gobbledygook, obfuscation or cherry-picked data ?
Vaccinated people die of Covid.
Vaccination improves your chances of survival. It doesn't guarantee it. I said the same thing responding to one of your posts quite a while ago.
"the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data show that about 6 in 10 adults dying of COVID-19 were vaccinated or boosted, and that’s remained true through at least August 2022 (the most recent month of data)."
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do-vaccinated-people-represent-most-covid-19-deaths-right-now/
Look at the April 2022 figures in the KFF study, the month before the NPR article was written.
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What's your preference ? Gobbledygook, obfuscation or cherry-picked data ?
Vaccinated people die of Covid.
Vaccination improves your chances of survival. It doesn't guarantee it. I said the same thing responding to one of your posts quite a while ago.
"the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data show that about 6 in 10 adults dying of COVID-19 were vaccinated or boosted, and that’s remained true through at least August 2022 (the most recent month of data)."
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do-vaccinated-people-represent-most-covid-19-deaths-right-now/
Look at the April 2022 figures in the KFF study, the month before the NPR article was written.
Apples and oranges: the NPR article was addressing the problem with unvaccinated people dying who were spoon fed misinformation about the vaccine. Here's another article: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-misinformation-and-the-partisan-divide-drove-a-surge-in-u-s-covid-deaths
And of course you left something out from the KFF article that you cited.
"What explains the rising share of COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated people?"
"There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated. New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths."
Like I said, your cherry-picking skills are highly evolved.
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Apples and oranges: the NPR article was addressing the problem with unvaccinated people dying who were spoon fed misinformation about the vaccine. Here's another article: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-misinformation-and-the-partisan-divide-drove-a-surge-in-u-s-covid-deaths
And of course you left something out from the KFF article that you cited.
"What explains the rising share of COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated people?"
"There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated. New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths."
Like I said, your cherry-picking skills are highly evolved.
His cherry-picking skills are elite.
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Apples and oranges: the NPR article was addressing the problem with unvaccinated people dying who were spoon fed misinformation about the vaccine. Here's another article: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-misinformation-and-the-partisan-divide-drove-a-surge-in-u-s-covid-deaths
And of course you left something out from the KFF article that you cited.
"What explains the rising share of COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated people?"
"There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated. New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths."
Like I said, your cherry-picking skills are highly evolved.
From the KFF study in the paragraph following your cherry-picked part ...
"COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur."
From the NPR article .....
"if you tally up the number of unvaccinated people who died from COVID after vaccines were open to all adults last year, it's about 319,000 lives lost, according to a Brown University analysis. That is nearly one-third of all COVID deaths in the U.S., people who could be alive if they'd gotten vaccinated."
And from Dr. Johnson: "It's just heartbreaking, you know, when it was preventable."
The vaccines were never shown to be 100% effective in preventing death.
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From the KFF study in the paragraph following your cherry-picked part ...
"COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur."
From the NPR article .....
"if you tally up the number of unvaccinated people who died from COVID after vaccines were open to all adults last year, it's about 319,000 lives lost, according to a Brown University analysis. That is nearly one-third of all COVID deaths in the U.S., people who could be alive if they'd gotten vaccinated."
And from Dr. Johnson: "It's just heartbreaking, you know, when it was preventable."
The vaccines were never shown to be 100% effective in preventing death.
Sorry Mn, not going to follow you into another rabbit hole.
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From the KFF study in the paragraph following your cherry-picked part ...
"COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur."
From the NPR article .....
"if you tally up the number of unvaccinated people who died from COVID after vaccines were open to all adults last year, it's about 319,000 lives lost, according to a Brown University analysis. That is nearly one-third of all COVID deaths in the U.S., people who could be alive if they'd gotten vaccinated."
And from Dr. Johnson: "It's just heartbreaking, you know, when it was preventable."
The vaccines were never shown to be 100% effective in preventing death.
We all know that now and soon after it came out. But the issue is misinformation causing preventable deaths and trying to stop it.
Now, I could go all real politik here and say that Sleepy Joe, and those of us who are sane, shouldn't care or feel sorry for the shitheads in the COVID Death Sweetspot who fell for the Soviet and/or Right/Left Wing misinformation on the vaccine as it may help evolution by weeding out the dumbshits, but there are people who could not take the vaccine who may have counted on said shitheads getting the vaccine to try and mitigate its effects.
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From the KFF study in the paragraph following your cherry-picked part ...
"COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur."
From the NPR article .....
"if you tally up the number of unvaccinated people who died from COVID after vaccines were open to all adults last year, it's about 319,000 lives lost, according to a Brown University analysis. That is nearly one-third of all COVID deaths in the U.S., people who could be alive if they'd gotten vaccinated."
And from Dr. Johnson: "It's just heartbreaking, you know, when it was preventable."
The vaccines were never shown to be 100% effective in preventing death.
Outside of some slightly exaggerated numbers at the beginning, whoever said it would be “100% effective?” To the best of my recollection it was always 95% ish or better.
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Outside of some slightly exaggerated numbers at the beginning, whoever said it would be “100% effective?” To the best of my recollection it was always 95% ish or better.
My recollection is that the original thought was that it would stop the spread instead of just mitigating the effects. Some of our leaders in this field got their heads out over their skis a bit.
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My recollection is that the original thought was that it would stop the spread instead of just mitigating the effects. Some of our leaders in this field got their heads out over their skis a bit.
I think the effectiveness was probably exaggerated in the beginning by some. Still pretty highly effective though. Much better than non-vaccination or “natural immunity.” Only the anti-science meatheads made an issue out of it not being “100%” effective.
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I think the effectiveness was probably exaggerated in the beginning by some. Still pretty highly effective though. Much better than non-vaccination or “natural immunity.” Only the anti-science meatheads made an issue out of it not being “100%” effective.
Don't disagree.
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Protection gained from having already had the virus was ridiculously downplayed even well after the science determined that the protection was as good as or better than any of the vaccines.
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Protection gained from having already had the virus was ridiculously downplayed even well after the science determined that the protection was as good as or better than any of the vaccines.
I'm not sure the data supports that conclusion, but I'll look at it if you have any.
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Lol
The NPR article.
Me: it's misinformation.
Alum: he's cherry-picking again
Tempo: yep
Me: the vaccine was never 100% effective.
Tempo: whoever said it would be 100% effective ?
The NPR article quotes Dr. Johnson: "it's just heartbreaking, you know, when it was preventable."
Merriam Webster: prevent, verb, to keep from happening.
What happens: Johnny gets vaccinated and he gets the Covid and he dies. Suzie says 'see, they're lying. My Johnny died and he was vaccinated.'
Suzie doesn't mention that Johnny was 65 years old, overweight and with 3-5 co-morbidities. But Suzie, with a large Facebook following, puts up a Facebook post that says the NPR article says the vaccine would prevent his death, and it didn't. Suzie says she doesn't trust these people any more. Suzie's post goes viral.
The govt contacts Facebook and Facebook takes her post down, saying it's misinformation.
The govt and Facebook says Suzie's post was misinformation.
Suzie says 'they told us the vaccine would prevent us from dying. See, look at this NPR article. They're trying to shame people into getting the vaccine and blame people who don't get the vaccine and die. My Johnny is dead and NPR said it wouldn't happen. And Facebook closed my account and said I was spreading vaccine misinformation. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.'
End of story.
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LMAO
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Textbook Fox News Brain.
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Lol
The NPR article.
Me: it's misinformation.
Alum: he's cherry-picking again
Tempo: yep
Me: the vaccine was never 100% effective.
Tempo: whoever said it would be 100% effective ?
The NPR article quotes Dr. Johnson: "it's just heartbreaking, you know, when it was preventable."
Merriam Webster: prevent, verb, to keep from happening.
What happens: Johnny gets vaccinated and he gets the Covid and he dies. Suzie says 'see, they're lying. My Johnny died and he was vaccinated.'
Suzie doesn't mention that Johnny was 65 years old, overweight and with 3-5 co-morbidities. But Suzie, with a large Facebook following, puts up a Facebook post that says the NPR article says the vaccine would prevent his death, and it didn't. Suzie says she doesn't trust these people any more. Suzie's post goes viral.
The govt contacts Facebook and Facebook takes her post down, saying it's misinformation.
The govt and Facebook says Suzie's post was misinformation.
Suzie says 'they told us the vaccine would prevent us from dying. See, look at this NPR article. They're trying to shame people into getting the vaccine and blame people who don't get the vaccine and die. My Johnny is dead and NPR said it wouldn't happen. And Facebook closed my account and said I was spreading vaccine misinformation. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.'
End of story.
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
Feel bad for these folks.
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I'm not sure the data supports that conclusion, but I'll look at it if you have any.
I mean, here’s an article from the summer of 2021, published, conveniently, by Science.
This was right when the already short staffed healthcare industry (in the middle of a pandemic) was laying off tens of thousands of medical workers who had been on the front lines since day one and already had acquired natural immunity, but didn’t want the vaccine. Not to mention all the other industries that did the same. But might be skewed because I’m sure there were Jews in the study.
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
Here’s more recent data from 65 studies in 19 different countries that probably didn’t have as many Jews and Chinese people in it. The largest such study to date.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna71027
Here’s a study (funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation!) that reaches the same conclusion.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)02465-5/fulltext
There’s some really good stuff out there about how pharma lobbyists pressured the government to pressure major social media companies to take down anything that might enable vaccine hesitancy, even true and mostly-true data that was being reported by reliable sources. A bunch of journalists and scientists were banned and blackballed for pushing back against the claims of the big corporations that were controlling the narrative. But of course they aren’t reporting any of this in the left leaning media.
See, this is the problem in this day and age. People can now effectively cocoon themselves in whatever media they want to consume, because it agrees with their already preconceived notions of what is real and true. And then the algorithm just reinforces that, ad infinitum.
Anything else that doesn’t fit the mold causes cognitive dissonance and is dismissed as fake news or conspiracy theories or outright lies. “These are my accepted news outlets, and everyone else is just making shit up!”
Tempo routinely proves this theory to be true.
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I mean, here’s an article from the summer of 2021, published, conveniently, by Science.
This was right when the already short staffed healthcare industry (in the middle of a pandemic) was laying off tens of thousands of medical workers who had been on the front lines since day one and already had acquired natural immunity, but didn’t want the vaccine. Not to mention all the other industries that did the same. But might be skewed because I’m sure there were Jews in the study.
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
Here’s more recent data from 65 studies in 19 different countries that probably didn’t have as many Jews and Chinese people in it. The largest such study to date.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna71027
Here’s a study (funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation!) that reaches the same conclusion.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)02465-5/fulltext
There’s some really good stuff out there about how pharma lobbyists pressured the government to pressure major social media companies to take down anything that might enable vaccine hesitancy, even true and mostly-true data that was being reported by reliable sources. A bunch of journalists and scientists were banned and blackballed for pushing back against the claims of the big corporations that were controlling the narrative. But of course they aren’t reporting any of this in the left leaning media.
See, this is the problem in this day and age. People can now effectively cocoon themselves in whatever media they want to consume, because it agrees with their already preconceived notions of what is real and true. And then the algorithm just reinforces that, ad infinitum.
Anything else that doesn’t fit the mold causes cognitive dissonance and is dismissed as fake news or conspiracy theories or outright lies. “These are my accepted news outlets, and everyone else is just making shit up!”
Tempo routinely proves this theory to be true.
POTD.
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POTD.
Yeah, I’m not sure about that. It says the protection rate was much reduced for Omicron. And the protection rate was about 78% from death from early variants (generalizing, there’s a ton to digest in those posts).
Seeing as how someone vaxxed and boosted was protected in the 90 percentile from all variants, I rate Custard’s claim: mostly false.
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Natural immunity was much better than no immunity, but I don’t think Custard’s claim that it was “just as safe and effective” looks to be true.
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And that’s if the initial infection didn’t kill or seriously fuck you up.
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Custard might want to read his Science magazines more closely.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FrCW9Xx/1-C83-BA63-E762-4341-8-E64-A68-A8-A935-C3-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfWHsfdx)
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Custard also apparently skipped over the headline of the article.
(https://i.postimg.cc/268g0pVH/B9-C0112-E-4330-44-AD-996-D-87304-BD4-E1-DC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Why am I am I reminded of people who said seat belts would kill.
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Custard also apparently skipped over the headline of the article.
(https://i.postimg.cc/268g0pVH/B9-C0112-E-4330-44-AD-996-D-87304-BD4-E1-DC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
It appears Custard read the first line of the headline and all of the alarm bells went off.
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Why am I am I reminded of people who said seat belts would kill.
People who love "freedom," no doubt.
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Lol now it’s my turn to get the spark treatment.
Construct a giant straw man and then slay that motherfucker.
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Lol now it’s my turn to get the spark treatment.
Construct a giant straw man and then slay that motherfucker.
Dude, you said prior infection was “just as good or better than any vaccine.” Then posted evidence to the contrary. A study you cited said the vaccine was still vital in the headline. And again; that’s if the virus didn’t kill or fuck you up badly the first time.
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Well, despite all the personal invective, we are at least getting drips of information. Good job, men!
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Dude, you said prior infection was “just as good or better then any vaccine.” Then posted evidence to the contrary. A study you cited said the vaccine was still vital in the headline. And again; that’s if the virus didn’t kill or fuck you up badly the first time.
I never said the vaccine wasn’t helpful or vital or effective or whatever. That’s a tangent. I specifically said many studies have shown that natural immunity from having had it is on par or better than having been vaccinated.
I wasn’t advocating going out and getting infected, I was talking specifically about those that already had been infected and, like the vast vast majority of people, recovered just fine.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12356923/Hunter-Bidens-business-partner-Devon-Archer-arrives-bombshell-testimony-Joes-involvement-shady-business-deals-DOJ-accused-trying-jail-talk.html
Hunter Biden's business partner Devon Archer told Congress in bombshell testimony the 'Biden brand' helped Ukrainian firm Burisma from going bankrupt and revealed Joe was on the phone more than 20 times while his son was talking with foreign associates.
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Please God let this be an opening for a new Democratic nominee in 2024. Preferably not Kamala.
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Please God let this be an opening for a new Democratic nominee in 2024. Preferably not Kamala.
This would be opening the door wide open for Trump to win, a third time, Tempo.
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This would be opening the door wide open for Trump to win, a third time, Tempo.
I think there is no small number of Democrats that would be quite happy about a realistic alternative.
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I think there is no small number of Democrats that would be quite happy about a realistic alternative.
"Realistic"? Pocohontas Warren? Ohmar? Schumer? Pritzker (LOL). Brandon Johnson? The corpse of George McGovern? Who exactly is "realistic"?
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"Realistic"? Pocohontas Warren? Ohmar? Schumer? Pritzker (LOL). Brandon Johnson? The corpse of George McGovern? Who exactly is "realistic"?
I guess no one…
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I thought murph said Gavin was a shoo-in.
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"Realistic"? Pocohontas Warren? Ohmar? Schumer? Pritzker (LOL). Brandon Johnson? The corpse of George McGovern? Who exactly is "realistic"?
The quotation marks go on the outside of the question mark. Sorry, it’s a peeve of mine.
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The quotation marks go on the outside of the question mark. Sorry, it’s a peeve of mine.
Yeah, thought about that, but I was quoting you and you did not have one.
You can't or won't name a name?
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Well, there are no JFKs unfortunately; but I’d take Whitmer, Sanders, Newsom, Warren, or Pritzker. Maybe there’s someone laying in the weeds who’d be palatable. There are no slam dunks at this time, but I’d probably take any of these over Biden.
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I thought murph said Gavin was a shoo-in.
Never underestimate the value of being charismatic, good looking, and with great hair - Ref: Clinton, Bill
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Never underestimate the value of being charismatic, good looking, and with great hair - Ref: Clinton, Bill
This is true.
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Well, there are no JFKs unfortunately; but I’d take Whitmer, Sanders, Newsom, Warren, or Pritzker. Maybe there’s someone laying in the weeds who’d be palatable. There are no slam dunks at this time, but I’d probably take any of these over Biden.
None of them are beating Trump.
Pritzker is delusional if he thinks he can run for President. That Inspector General report on his toilet real estate taxes scam would absolutely destroy him. He should be in jail right now.
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I don’t think Trump is as popular as you think he is. Sure, he’s got a very devoted base, but he is not a broadly popular candidate.
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None of them are beating Trump.
Pritzker is delusional if he thinks he can run for President. That Inspector General report on his toilet real estate taxes scam would absolutely destroy him. He should be in jail right now.
Lol yet Trump is a nearly unbeatable juggernaut?
Lots of candidate have had to overcome pesky background issues. Joe Biden once dropped out because of plagiarism in college.
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Lol yet Trump is a nearly unbeatable juggernaut?
Lots of candidate have had to overcome pesky background issues. Joe Biden once dropped out because of plagiarism in college.
Trump is polling at what, 50-60% in the GOP? The problem for him is that the other 40-50% in large part consider Trump to be a disaster area and really do not want him to win the primary, at all. It's not that they *prefer* DeSantis or Haley over Trump a little bit, they are desperately trying to find a way to not have Trump be the standard bearer.
Meanwhile, a similar percentage of the Democratic party wishes that Biden weren't running again, but don't consider it the end of the world if he does. He has a competent administration and cabinet, and the Democrats in congress aren't raving lunatics or opportunists, so if Biden wins, it will be fine.
In the general, that dichotomy will bode very badly for Trump. There will be plenty of Republicans who will say "I can't vote for Joe Biden!" and won't, but if Trump loses 10% of the GOP to 3rd party or non-participation, it's over.
The biggest threat for Biden is a major health scare because Kamala Harris is not seen in that same light as Biden. Biden's secret weapon right now is that he's milquetoast - Harris is not.
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Lol yet Trump is a nearly unbeatable juggernaut?
Lots of candidate have had to overcome pesky background issues. Joe Biden once dropped out because of plagiarism in college.
And he plagiarized a Neil Kinnock speech in the 80s.
I did not say he is unbeatable. The fact is he has never won the popular vote. But, as we all know, or should know by now, the Electoral College skews in his, and the GOP's, favor. That is THE problem.
Yes, people really hate Trump. But, we all know where they live: in urban and even more than a few suburban areas. They are not living in Montana, SD, ND, NE, you get the picture.
We saw this movie in 2016. The fucking shit head, moronic Bernie Bros. did not like Hitlery and did not show up to vote. Now we have the fucking shit head, moronic alleged "progressives" causing small numbers of Blacks and Hispanics to move to the GOP plus, apparently, a bunch of people, who, for whatever reason, claim they do not like Biden or Trump and may not vote. If turnout is down, Biden loses. If your guy RFK, Jr. pulls enough votes, Biden loses. If Cornell West pulls enough votes, Biden loses.
While the economy looks like we are line for a soft landing, we (meaning in my line of business) are seeing some cracks starting (just like the Fed wants!). Bankruptcy lawyers have waited for more than 3 years to be busy. If they start getting busy in the next 12 months, Joe Biden is completely fucked and loses in an Electoral College landslide, even if Trump is in jail.
As for Pritzker, he got off easy in the Illinois media for the toilet stuff. We all know what is going to happen if he goes national: It will be 24/7 "multi-millionaire rich fat fuck cheats on taxes by ripping out toilets, violated wire and mail fraud laws in process, why isn't he in jail?"
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Trump is polling at what, 50-60% in the GOP? The problem for him is that the other 40-50% in large part consider Trump to be a disaster area and really do not want him to win the primary, at all. It's not that they *prefer* DeSantis or Haley over Trump a little bit, they are desperately trying to find a way to not have Trump be the standard bearer.
Meanwhile, a similar percentage of the Democratic party wishes that Biden weren't running again, but don't consider it the end of the world if he does. He has a competent administration and cabinet, and the Democrats in congress aren't raving lunatics or opportunists, so if Biden wins, it will be fine.
In the general, that dichotomy will bode very badly for Trump. There will be plenty of Republicans who will say "I can't vote for Joe Biden!" and won't, but if Trump loses 10% of the GOP to 3rd party or non-participation, it's over.
The biggest threat for Biden is a major health scare because Kamala Harris is not seen in that same light as Biden. Biden's secret weapon right now is that he's milquetoast - Harris is not.
....completely ignores that more and more Blacks and Hispanics are voting for the GOP....
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You guys paint such a rosy picture. America is like the 450 pound guy who who has done nothing but eat nutty bars and ice cream while sitting on his couch wondering how he got fat.
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I think the basic gist is both choices suck. I know the polling looks worse than it should, but as of right now I’m having a hard time believing Trump could get re-elected. I’ll re-examine that once we start seeing primaries.
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I can’t wait to see 86 year old Biden at the end of his second term. If he were to make it that long. I’d at least consider replacing Harris.
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You guys paint such a rosy picture. America is like the 450 pound guy who who has done nothing but eat nutty bars and ice cream while sitting on his couch wondering how he got fat.
I fail to see how I painted a rosy picture.
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....completely ignores that more and more Blacks and Hispanics are voting for the GOP....
I said Trump. Not GOP. Point being that Trump as nominee will depress turnout - especially amongst groups that have historically low turnout.
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I fail to see how I painted a rosy picture.
You also failed to pick up on my sarcasm.
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....completely ignores that more and more Blacks and Hispanics are voting for the GOP....
I always thought the Dems would hemorrhage 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanic voters, particularly males in Texas and Florida. I don’t see that trend being reversed anytime soon. As to the AA community, I think the biggest threat is that black men will stay home in 2024. Reducing inflation and improving the economy would do the most for this group (and everyone else).
On the other hand, I hope the GOP spends more time arguing over whether slavery was bad.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/tim-scott-rebukes-ron-desantis-florida-black-history-standards-slavery-rcna96787
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I said Trump. Not GOP. Point being that Trump as nominee will depress turnout - especially amongst groups that have historically low turnout.
Who you crapping? The whole GOP is the Party of Trump these days in case you missed it. There are people who specifically like him because he doesn't act like an emo wuss boy and does act like an asshole. See Truth/Dom/Roll Booth Willie. (Imagine how Spark would lose it if Trump was posting here.)
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You also failed to pick up on my sarcasm.
I thought Murph painted a rosy picture, so that is where I went.
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I always thought the Dems would hemorrhage 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanic voters, particularly males in Texas and Florida. I don’t see that trend being reversed anytime soon. As to the AA community, I think the biggest threat is that black men will stay home in 2024. Reducing inflation and improving the economy would do the most for this group (and everyone else).
On the other hand, I hope the GOP spends more time arguing over whether slavery was bad.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/tim-scott-rebukes-ron-desantis-florida-black-history-standards-slavery-rcna96787
My fear is the economy. This is being set up by the Fed to crash right before the election. While the Conventional Wisdom claims it will be a soft landing, the Conventional Wisdom is usually wrong. Hope the CW is right this time.
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Who you crapping? The whole GOP is the Party of Trump these days in case you missed it. There are people who specifically like him because he doesn't act like an emo wuss boy and does act like an asshole. See Truth/Dom/Roll Booth Willie. (Imagine how Spark would lose it if Trump was posting here.)
If 100% true - then the GOP has shrunk, which is not the same syntax as my point but makes my point.
Chris Christie only needs to peel off 5% of the original party. Of course, it will be interesting to see what he does when Trump is the nominee, will he just fold his cards and say "Trump is better than Joe Biden"
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If 100% true - then the GOP has shrunk, which is not the same syntax as my point but makes my point.
Chris Christie only needs to peel off 5% of the original party. Of course, it will be interesting to see what he does when Trump is the nominee, will he just fold his cards and say "Trump is better than Joe Biden"
1. There was a recent poll that says there is an equal percentage of people self-identifying as "Republicans" than there are self-identifying as "Democrats." More people are now allegedly "independents."
https://www.axios.com/2023/04/17/poll-americans-independent-republican-democrat
How does that happen with Trump and his acolytes running amuck?
2. Do you think another Republican will run if Trump is the nominee?
We already know GOP backers are funding Tempo's guy at one time, RFK Jr., and probably Cornell West, Marianne Williamson, and who knows who else....
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I note, Murph, that you predicted that Fetterman would win by at least 10 points and he won by 4.9.
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America is like the 450 pound guy who who has done nothing but eat nutty bars and ice cream while sitting on his couch wondering how he got fat.
You explained American to a T if Pritzker gets elected…
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I note, Murph, that you predicted that Fetterman would win by at least 10 points and he won by 4.9.
No wonder Dr Oz is a Senator then
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1. There was a recent poll that says there is an equal percentage of people self-identifying as "Republicans" than there are self-identifying as "Democrats." More people are now allegedly "independents."
https://www.axios.com/2023/04/17/poll-americans-independent-republican-democrat
How does that happen with Trump and his acolytes running amuck?
2. Do you think another Republican will run if Trump is the nominee?
We already know GOP backers are funding Tempo's guy at one time, RFK Jr., and probably Cornell West, Marianne Williamson, and who knows who else....
Just so I’m clear here, who is my guy?
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You explained American to a T if Pritzker gets elected…
Couldn’t have seen a right-winger makes Pritzker fat guy joke coming.
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Thinking the entire GOP are Trump supporters and that Trump would suppress left wing voters seems pretty much insane to me but I’ve been wrong before
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Just so I’m clear here, who is my guy?
You initially expressed excitement about RFK Jr. running. You did retract that after it became known that he is a Bannon Tool.
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Thinking the entire GOP are Trump supporters and that Trump would suppress left wing voters seems pretty much insane to me but I’ve been wrong before
No one has said the entire party supports Trump. Nonetheless, it is evident that he controls the party at this point, don't you think?
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No wonder Dr Oz is a Senator then
That wasn't the point, but I think you knew that.
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You initially expressed excitement about RFK Jr. running. You did retract that after it became known that he is a Bannon Tool.
I was happy a loud voice had entered the chat. Not sure he was ever “my guy.” Didn’t take long to realize he’s about half baked, though.
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No one has said the entire party supports Trump. Nonetheless, it is evident that he controls the party at this point, don't you think?
It’s kinda funny, I read an article someone linked, probably here, and it said that the media was about to go on a full blown smear campaign on RFKj. I think it might have been NYP?
Anyways, I didn’t even really know who or what RFKj really was, but literally a day or two later he was getting lambasted nonstop here and on the TVs at the gym. Funny to me.
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No one has said the entire party supports Trump. Nonetheless, it is evident that he controls the party at this point, don't you think?
Pretty sure I saw a post of yours saying the entire GOP was Trump? Perhaps I misread. It’s been a busy evening.
I’m not sure if Trump controls the party. I don’t see much support locally, which is pretty conservative but perhaps more upper middle class? Most of the true GOP type people in this group seem to back RdS.
I am really fuckin’ sure the media wants us to think Trump controls the GOP, however. He’s only the biggest media boon they’ve ever seen.
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The whole GOP is the Party of Trump these days in case you missed it. There are people who specifically like him because he doesn't act like an emo wuss boy and does act like an asshole. See Truth/Dom/Roll Booth Willie. (Imagine how Spark would lose it if Trump was posting here.)
Ahh yes, here it is.
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Pretty sure I saw a post of yours saying the entire GOP was Trump? Perhaps I misread. It’s been a busy evening.
I’m not sure if Trump controls the party. I don’t see much support locally, which is pretty conservative but perhaps more upper middle class? Most of the true GOP type people in this group seem to back RdS.
I am really fuckin’ sure the media wants us to think Trump controls the GOP, however. He’s only the biggest media boon they’ve ever seen.
Trump towers over the GOP. Heck, many Republican voters think he is still President. Why would they want to vote for Trump again? For one very big reason. To enjoy his revenge.
DeSantis, on the other hand, is looking more and more like the Edsel of the GOP. The combination of horrible retail skills, toxic personality and totally incompetent campaign is pretty unique, usually you get just two out of those three.
If Trump does not get the GOP nomination, it probably won’t be because he lost more primaries than the other guy. It will be because he cops a plea deal that requires him to withdraw from the race, suffers a major health event or dies.
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It just feels good to know how it is.
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It just feels good to know how it is.
You're welcome then, I guess.
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My fear is the economy. This is being set up by the Fed to crash right before the election. While the Conventional Wisdom claims it will be a soft landing, the Conventional Wisdom is usually wrong. Hope the CW is right this time.
The fed is a committee
Committees always produce extremely lackluster results and are usually tone deaf.
Take that for whatever it's worth
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Couldn’t have seen a right-winger makes Pritzker fat guy joke coming.
Seriously though how the fuck are you a born billionaire and are morbidly obese... can't afford a personal chef? Personal trainer? Don't have time? Too much stress? Wtf?
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Some people are genetically predisposed to being heavy. Pritzker looks a bit that way to me. He looks about like his father did. But yeah, I’m sure he could trim a few pounds. Maybe he just loves food. He can certainly afford the best of it. If he wants to run for national office (and by every appearance he does) would benefit him to lose some weight.
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It’s kinda funny, I read an article someone linked, probably here, and it said that the media was about to go on a full blown smear campaign on RFKj. I think it might have been NYP?
Anyways, I didn’t even really know who or what RFKj really was, but literally a day or two later he was getting lambasted nonstop here and on the TVs at the gym. Funny to me.
The smear campaign on RFK Jr is being run by ... RFK Jr
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Most of the true GOP type people in this group seem to back RdS.
That's more damning than saying they support Trump.
"Blacks benefitted from Slavery!"
"That wasn't me - that was the Board of Education that reports into me. Also - maybe they were a blacksmith! And the people who came up with this are scholars!"
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Trump towers over the GOP. Heck, many Republican voters think he is still President. Why would they want to vote for Trump again? For one very big reason. To enjoy his revenge.
I really do like Jordan Klepper but he's really missing a good zinger when he's out interviewing these Trumpers who say he's still President.
If Trump won in 2016, and he won in 2020 and is still President, then he's ineligible to run un 2024 - per the Constitution they hold so dear - as he is term limited.
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Seriously though how the fuck are you a born billionaire and are morbidly obese... can't afford a personal chef? Personal trainer? Don't have time? Too much stress? Wtf?
See also: Trump, Donald
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I really do like Jordan Klepper but he's really missing a good zinger when he's out interviewing these Trumpers who say he's still President.
If Trump won in 2016, and he won in 2020 and is still President, then he's ineligible to run un 2024 - per the Constitution they hold so dear - as he is term limited.
The don’t care, the rules don’t apply to Trump in their opinion.
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See also: Trump, Donald
Donnie is said to love him some Mickey Ds.
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The don’t care, the rules don’t apply to Trump in their opinion.
That really is the wild part of his segments - eventually he walks them into a contradiction and they just say "I don't care"
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The fed is a committee
Committees always produce extremely lackluster results and are usually tone deaf.
Take that for whatever it's worth
Michael Lombardi notes on occasion that there are no statutes built honoring committees.
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The smear campaign on RFK Jr is being run by ... RFK Jr
A point apparently lost on some.
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This whole Devin Archer thing is BS.
"The illusion of access" is not "Access"
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The smear campaign on RFK Jr is being run by ... RFK Jr
I thought RFK, Jr’s relatives were in charge of the smear campaign.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/08/robert-kennedy-jr-measles-vaccines-226798/
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This whole Devin Archer thing is BS.
"The illusion of access" is not "Access"
Yeah, "Dad, say 'Hi' to Mr. Chang." "Ok. Hi, Mr. Chang!"
I get it. Is it really different than the illusion of access offered by any similarly situated spawn in business? No, not really. Should the sitting VP of the United States of America be on the call saying "Hi, Mr. Chang"? [Outside quotation marks for Tempo.]. No. [WHATABOUTISM ALERT!] Have the Trumps, Clintons,
Rockefellers, and the rest of them all done it? Maybe not as overtly (except Trump), but undoubtedly.
Still not a good look for Sleepy Joe.
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I thought RFK, Jr’s relatives were in charge of the smear campaign.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/08/robert-kennedy-jr-measles-vaccines-226798/
Another good point.
I don't think Custard's research on the RFK. Jr. subject was as extensive as some of his other research. It happens to all of us.
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Another good point.
I don't think Custard's research on the RFK. Jr. subject was as extensive as some of his other research. It happens to all of us.
Nothing has been said about Custard's level of research that hasn't already been said about RFK Jr
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Michael Lombardi notes on occasion that there are no statutes built honoring committees.
haha that is excellent!
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Another good point.
I don't think Custard's research on the RFK. Jr. subject was as extensive as some of his other research. It happens to all of us.
I haven’t done any research on him.
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I haven’t done any research on him.
That was my point
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Michael Lombardi notes on occasion that there are no statutes built honoring committees.
Would such a buill have a leg to stand on?
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Would such a buill have a leg to stand on?
Got me there, Nichi
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I haven’t done any research on him.
I'd argue the difference between your research and no research at all is fairly minimal.
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I'd argue the difference between your research and no research at all is fairly minimal.
🤣
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Glad you liked it. I thought it was a good one.
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From yesterday, a Gold Star family member speaking about the Afghanistan withdrawal.
"Cheryl Rex, mother of Lance Cpl. Dylan Merola:
"When [Biden] approached me, his words to me were, 'My wife, Jill & I, know how you feel. We lost our son as well and brought him home in a flag draped coffin.'"
"My heart started beating faster & I started shaking, knowing that their son died from cancer & they were able to be by his side."
"How could someone be so heartless to say he knew how I felt."
Biden died at Walter Reed with his family by his side.
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Lol I was legitimately just about to ask “Where’s Mn been?”
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Lol I was legitimately just about to ask “Where’s Mn been?”
The QAnon meeting with his compatriot Mike Pillow
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The QAnon meeting with his compatriot Mike Pillow
Lol. Likely.
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The QAnon meeting with his compatriot Mike Pillow
You guys (is that the correct pronoun?!) go back to your pizza joint and pedophilia…
Getting there on your private jets of course while you lecture us on global warming…
I just need to see your genitals and direct you to the correct bathroom…
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I just need to see your genitals
Pervert
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Went fishing.
(https://i.ibb.co/XLGQMP1/33-king.jpg) (https://ibb.co/H49S3y6)
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Pervert
Prude
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Went fishing.
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damn that's a big ass fish!
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damn that's a big ass fish!
Thanks. I had a good trip with the Trump haters.
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Thanks. I had a good trip with the Trump haters.
Are they also Fauci Fans?
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Are they also Fauci Fans?
Lol. Uh huh.
One is married to someone who knows a doc who had a direct line to Fauci.
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Went fishing.
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Good job, Mn!
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Good job, Mn!
TY.
It's a good thing you could walk all the way around the boat.
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Lol. Uh huh.
One is married to someone who knows a doc who had a direct line to Fauci.
Have you given the spouse The Third Degree? Does the spouse also know Peter Daszak?!
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Have you given the spouse The Third Degree? Does the spouse also know Peter Daszak?!
The Native American in her supports Chief Illiniwek. We're good.
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The Native American in her supports Chief Illiniwek. We're good.
As does the white man in Mn.
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It has been a long time since I watched Curb, but she has not aged well....
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-general-garland-appoints-special-counsel-hunter-biden-probe-rcna99447
Here you go, Mn!
Great leverage for the plea deal, one would think.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-general-garland-appoints-special-counsel-hunter-biden-probe-rcna99447
Here you go, Mn!
Great leverage for the plea deal, one would think.
Other than isn't the Special Counsel supposed to come from outside the govt, explain.
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Barr named Durham who was already in the dept....
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Other than isn't the Special Counsel supposed to come from outside the govt, explain.
He can do what he wants to do. Garland has some oversight, but if he disagrees with Weiss I think he has to explain why to Congress.
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He can do what he wants to do. Garland has some oversight, but if he disagrees with Weiss I think he has to explain why to Congress.
I was referring to your explanation of the plea deal.
Is the leverage for the defense in that if the case gets sent to DC or Cali in front of a judge willing to accept a defense request to approve the original unprecedented plea deal ?
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I was referring to your explanation of the plea deal.
Is the leverage for the defense in that if the case gets sent to DC or Cali in front of a judge willing to accept a defense request to approve the original plea deal ?
Sounds like he was holding out for a deal that would wrap up any and all other investigations. That is not happening. He is going to lose the tax case. Going to have to take what he can get on the tax plea deal, one would think.
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Sounds like he was holding out for a deal that would wrap up any and all other investigations. That is not happening. He is going to lose the tax case. Going to have to take what he can get on the tax plea deal, one would think.
Wasn't the original tax plea deal for 2 misdemeanors and probation ?
Yeah, he might take that.
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Wasn't the original tax plea deal for 2 misdemeanors and probation ?
Yeah, he might take that.
Yeah, but sounds like things fell apart on the issue of whether it would end any and all investigations.
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I thought I heard an appellate court recently ruled that the law precluding drug addicts, whatever, from having guns was unconstitutional. Could throw a wrench in the gun charge
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I thought I heard an appellate court recently ruled that the law precluding drug addicts, whatever, from having guns was unconstitutional. Could throw a wrench in the gun charge
Was the case about possession, or lying on your application ?
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Yeah, but sounds like things fell apart on the issue of whether it would end any and all investigations.
After 5 years of investigations and the 2014 and 2015 charging decisions turned down in California and DC and the statute of limitations on those expiring and statements from Garland and Weiss that Weiss did have charging abilities , the judge in Delaware, who happened to read the diversion agreement that was put together by the guy who was just given a promotion, is eliminated due to lack of venue in Delaware.
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After 5 years of investigations and the 2014 and 2015 charging decisions turned down in California and DC and the statute of limitations on those expiring and statements from Garland and Weiss that Weiss did have charging abilities , the judge in Delaware, who happened to read the diversion agreement that was put together by the guy who was just given a promotion, is eliminated due to lack of venue in Delaware.
And yet Weiss, appointed by Trump, has been at this for 5 years? He's been at it longer than Durham.
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Was the case about possession, or lying on your application ?
I don't know if it is all the same law.
If you cannot deny a gun to a guy on the hooch, why ask him if he is on the hooch on the application?
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I've read that apparently rhe Delaware judge no longer has jurisdiction because the Biden kid withdrew his waiver of where the charges can be brought. That led to the special counsel designation so that Weiss can prosecute Biden in Cali or DC, etc.
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If you cannot deny a gun to a guy on the hooch, why ask him if he is on the hooch on the application?
He did have an option to answer the question truthfully.
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I've read that apparently rhe Delaware judge no longer has jurisdiction because the Biden kid withdrew his waiver of where the charges can be brought. That led to the special counsel designation so that Weiss can prosecute Biden in Cali or DC, etc.
We were told that Weiss had full charging capabilities and that special counsel status wasn't necessary. That is, until a couple of whistleblowers showed up and a judge who no longer has venue happened to read the unprecedented diversion agreement.
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He did have an option to answer the question truthfully.
If he did, he would not have gotten the gun permit, right? We all want dope heads carrying around guns? According to the 5th Circuit, we do.
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We were told that Weiss had full charging capabilities and that special counsel status wasn't necessary. That is, until a couple of whistleblowers showed up and a judge who no longer has venue happened to read the unprecedented diversion agreement.
Weiss cannot litigate charges Biden in DC or Cal without being special counsel. Someone else would have to do that.
Which makes the decision to name him special counsel understandable, and, ironically, in line with the requests of certain GOP congressman over the past year.
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Obviously what changed was Biden"s willingness to have all the charges litigated in DE, where Weiss was the US Attorney, as appointed by Trump. Weiss cannot litigate outside of DE.
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If he did, he would not have gotten the gun permit, right? We all want dope heads carrying around guns? According to the 5th Circuit, we do.
Apparently Hunter wasn't charged with lying on the application but was charged with the possession issue.
It looks like the 5th Circuit decision dealt with possession and not lying on an application, so Hunter probably benefits from the court decision.
If Weiss can add a charge of lying on the application, I'm not sure the 5th Circuit decision would necessarily come into play.
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Weiss cannot litigate charges Biden in DC or Cal without being special counsel. Someone else would have to do that.
Which makes the decision to name him special counsel understandable, and, ironically, in line with the requests of certain GOP congressman over the past year.
Re March 1 ABC article and Garland appearing before Senate Judiciary ..
"Garland made clear that Weiss has been told he has "full authority" to make any charging decisions stemming from the investigation, even if that would involve bringing a case in a district outside of Delaware."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-panel-expected-grill-garland-trump-biden-special/story?id=97549404
I guess not, eh ?
""If my assumption is correct, I want to make clear that, as the Attorney General has stated, I have been granted ultimate authority over this matter, including responsibility for deciding where, when, and whether to file charges and for making decisions necessary to preserve the integrity of the prosecution, consistent with federal law, the Principles of Federal Prosecution, and Departmental regulations," he wrote."
Except for that tricky part at the end that doesn't exactly say that I don't have venue in Delaware but that's what it means. The 1st part sure sounds good tho. Lol.
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If he did, he would not have gotten the gun permit, right? We all want dope heads carrying around guns? According to the 5th Circuit, we do.
I think the trend is more that it's ok to have dope heads wandering around.
If they happen to have a gun, so be it.
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Which makes the decision to name him special counsel understandable, and, ironically, in line with the requests of certain GOP congressman over the past year.
I think the requests were for "a" special counsel and not for the guy who let statute of limitations expire, shut down investigations, tipped off the Bidens of searches, hid FBI documents from investigators and came up with an unprecedented plea deal.
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Meanwhile, Jared and Ivanka walk around free.
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I think the requests were for "a" special counsel and not for the guy who let statute of limitations expire, shut down investigations, tipped off the Bidens of searches, hid FBI documents from investigators and came up with an unprecedented plea deal.
Well, we have seen a lot of bad Republican lawyers in action lately.
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Re March 1 ABC article and Garland appearing before Senate Judiciary ..
"Garland made clear that Weiss has been told he has "full authority" to make any charging decisions stemming from the investigation, even if that would involve bringing a case in a district outside of Delaware."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-panel-expected-grill-garland-trump-biden-special/story?id=97549404
I guess not, eh ?
""If my assumption is correct, I want to make clear that, as the Attorney General has stated, I have been granted ultimate authority over this matter, including responsibility for deciding where, when, and whether to file charges and for making decisions necessary to preserve the integrity of the prosecution, consistent with federal law, the Principles of Federal Prosecution, and Departmental regulations," he wrote."
Except for that tricky part at the end that doesn't exactly say that I don't have venue in Delaware but that's what it means. The 1st part sure sounds good tho. Lol.
There's a reason he is not a Supreme Court justice, Mn.
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There's a reason he is not a Supreme Court justice, Mn.
Yeah, as I recall, McConnell blocked him.
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Yeah, as I recall, McConnell blocked him.
Probably for the better based on what we've seen from him as AG.
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Meanwhile, Jared and Ivanka walk around free.
Yeah, imagine that. Slime balls.
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Probably for the better based on what we've seen from him as AG.
Did you see Trump’s appointments?
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There's a reason he is not a Supreme Court justice, Mn.
And the Dems were furious.
He's probably wondering what kind of a mess he's gotten himself into, or what kind of a mess Lisa Monaco has gotten him into.
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Did you see Trump’s appointments?
Yes, and as result, Republicans are underperforming in elections.
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Probably for the better based on what we've seen from him as AG.
Yes, as AG he has not taken any private trips from Billionaire GOP donors, which is a pre-requisite these days.
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Yes, and as result, Republicans are underperforming in elections.
I would say they are performing as expected given their performance - part of which is Trump's appointments and the GOP senate confirming them.
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https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/nevada-officials-actively-investigating-biden-stay-at-billionaire-democrats-home/
surprised he didn't stay at Murph's!!!!
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https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/nevada-officials-actively-investigating-biden-stay-at-billionaire-democrats-home/
surprised he didn't stay at Murph's!!!!
Well, there's only a few degrees of separation. Tom Steyer made his money in coal, really. When he got religion on climate change, he dumped the coal business on one of his minions, Raymond Zage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Zage) - UIUC 1992, who then parlayed that money into being the lead investor of the buyout of Grindr, which then went public. PAMan is one of Grindrs best customers, and I am on the same message board as PAMan.
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Murph is playing 4D chess with you mother fuckers
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Well, there's only a few degrees of separation. Tom Steyer made his money in coal, really. When he got religion on climate change, he dumped the coal business on one of his minions, Raymond Zage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Zage) - UIUC 1992, who then parlayed that money into being the lead investor of the buyout of Grindr, which then went public. PAMan is one of Grindrs best customers, and I am on the same message board as PAMan.
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Well, there's only a few degrees of separation. Tom Steyer made his money in coal, really. When he got religion on climate change, he dumped the coal business on one of his minions, Raymond Zage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Zage) - UIUC 1992, who then parlayed that money into being the lead investor of the buyout of Grindr, which then went public. PAMan is one of Grindrs best customers, and I am on the same message board as PAMan.
That’s pretty funny.
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https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/nevada-officials-actively-investigating-biden-stay-at-billionaire-democrats-home/
surprised he didn't stay at Murph's!!!!
That is a great freaking story though! What's funny is that Biden and Steyer are being called out by *Republicans* for violation of a new set of regulations imposed on the personal rights of property owners in Nevada!
Douglass County has been a real pain in the ass lately, basically you have a bunch of people who are struggling to afford their housing, and they have this brilliant idea that all these Californians who have 2nd homes in Stateline and Zephyr Cove will be forced to sell their houses if they can't AirBnB them anymore, and there will be housing for locals! Nevermind that the houses are worth less than a down payment on a teardown in Palo Alto and nobody would sell.
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That is a great freaking story though! What's funny is that Biden and Steyer are being called out by *Republicans* for violation of a new set of regulations imposed on the personal rights of property owners in Nevada!
Douglass County has been a real pain in the ass lately, basically you have a bunch of people who are struggling to afford their housing, and they have this brilliant idea that all these Californians who have 2nd homes in Stateline and Zephyr Cove will be forced to sell their houses if they can't AirBnB them anymore, and there will be housing for locals! Nevermind that the houses are worth less than a down payment on a teardown in Palo Alto and nobody would sell.
yeah it really should have gone to the clown world thread, but it was biden related so yeah... haha
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Grindr, which then went public. PAMan is one of Grindrs best customers, and I am on the same message board as PAMan.
Not that there is anything wrong with it.
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yeah it really should have gone to the clown world thread, but it was biden related so yeah... haha
You long or short this earnings announcement? Don't ask me - I have no damn clue. Just happy Putin offed Prigozhin so I have something to distract me.
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You long or short this earnings announcement? Don't ask me - I have no damn clue. Just happy Putin offed Prigozhin so I have something to distract me.
still long baby
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still long baby
Good man
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Never could have predicted Prigozhin would die in an accident only a couple months after staging an (albeit brief) uprising against Putin. No one could have seen this coming.
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Please God let this be an opening for a new Democratic nominee in 2024. Preferably not Kamala.
“You never say anything bad about Biden (or Democrats)! Derp.” - JudgeJudy
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Not surprised you think barely coherent Joe Biden is doing a great job. The corporate pigs will continue to feed at the trough. All is well.
“You never say anything bad about Joe Biden (or Democrats)! Derp.” - JudgeJudy
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Biden kid indicted! If that happened to a Clinton kid you know the kid would mysteriously disappear and the problem would be solved.
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Lock him up! Lock him up!
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The Biden family is not very tech savvy...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12610551/Joe-Biden-brother-Frank-naked-selfie-GuysWithiPhones.html
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The Biden family is not very tech savvy...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12610551/Joe-Biden-brother-Frank-naked-selfie-GuysWithiPhones.html
But ripped!
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Robert Malley, high school friend of Blinken and lead negotiator in Obama's Iran deal, is suspected of being an Iranian spy. Appointed by Biden as US envoy to Iran.
Malley previously supervised Ariane Tabatabai who is Chief of Staff to the Asst Sec of Defense for Special Ops, and hired by Biden, is also suspected of being an Iranian spy.
Blinken, during the hostage deal, said the money was only available for humanitarian reasons.
Blinken on Sunday, Iran has always moved money to terrorism.
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Mn subscribes to Tehran newspapers? Never would have thought that.
Nonetheless, the dude is currently off the job. Maybe he can share a jail cell with Trump for improperly divulging state secrets?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/06/rob-malley-iran-security-clearance-investigation/
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Robert Malley, high school friend of Blinken and lead negotiator in Obama's Iran deal, is suspected of being an Iranian spy. Appointed by Biden as US envoy to Iran.
Malley previously supervised Ariane Tabatabai who is Chief of Staff to the Asst Sec of Defense for Special Ops, and hired by Biden, is also suspected of being an Iranian spy.
Blinken, during the hostage deal, said the money was only available for humanitarian reasons.
Blinken on Sunday, Iran has always moved money to terrorism.
I’m sure it’s all stored on the Hunter Biden laptop! And that Covid was an intentional lab leak.
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I’m sure it’s all stored on the Hunter Biden laptop! And that Covid was an intentional lab leak.
The guy has had his security clearance suspended....and the Tehran newspapers seem to have access to quite a bit of secret documents regarding his work.
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Mn subscribes to Tehran newspapers? Never would have thought that.
Nonetheless, the dude is currently off the job. Maybe he can share a jail cell with Trump for improperly divulging state secrets?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/06/rob-malley-iran-security-clearance-investigation/
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Trump knew about the Russian bounties and was communicating with Alfa Bank.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Trump knew about the Russian bounties and was communicatin with Alfa Bank.
There's a reason he refused to cooperate with Mueller! LOL.
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There's a reason he refused to cooperate with Mueller! LOL.
Yeah. Mueller didn't know who Fusion GPS was. How do you cooperate with a guy like that ? Lol
By the time things got to Mueller, the FBI and DOJ knew everything was a hoax.
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Yeah. Mueller didn't know who Fusion GPS was. How do you cooperate with a guy like that ? Lol
By the time things got to Mueller, the FBI and DOJ knew everything was a hoax.
Seems like that would be all the more reason to cooperate instead of obstruct!
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Seems like that would be all the more reason to cooperate instead of obstruct!
I'm guessing it wasn't Mueller's purview.
Just like everything else.
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The guy has had his security clearance suspended....and the Tehran newspapers seem to have access to quite a bit of secret documents regarding his work.
Oh, he’s definitely guilty!
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Oh, he’s definitely guilty!
I certainly did not say that. But something is afoot, obviously.
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Anyone else remember the whispers about FDR knowing something about Pearl Harbor prior to attack? It just crossed my mind that maybe Bibi let his guard down just a bit to find a common enemy. He certainly needed a distraction.
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Anyone else remember the whispers about FDR knowing something about Pearl Harbor prior to attack? It just crossed my mind that maybe Bibi let his guard down just a bit to find a common enemy. He certainly needed a distraction.
I suspect if we knew the entire truth about either/both of the world wars it would probably break our brains.
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Anyone else remember the whispers about FDR knowing something about Pearl Harbor prior to attack? It just crossed my mind that maybe Bibi let his guard down just a bit to find a common enemy. He certainly needed a distraction.
Now we know the Truth. Trump authorized the lab leak from Wuhan.
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I suspect if we knew the entire truth about either/both of the world wars it would probably break our brains.
Yes
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Mn subscribes to Tehran newspapers? Never would have thought that.
Nonetheless, the dude is currently off the job. Maybe he can share a jail cell with Trump for improperly divulging state secrets?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/06/rob-malley-iran-security-clearance-investigation/
"....off the job." Lol
It's probably hard to be an envoy to Iran when your security clearance has been revoked.
Catherine Herridge CBS on Oct 6 ....
"Sources tell CBS News there is no indication former President Trump shared sensitive records with an Australian billionaire + no charges have been filed by the Special Counsel through their alleged discussion about US Nuclear subs was investigated."
One day earlier on Oct 5, from the usual culprits at the NYT
By Alan Feuer 🤡, Ben Protess, Maggie Haberman 🤡 and Jonathan Swan 🤡
Oct. 5, 2023
"Shortly after he left office, former President Donald J. Trump shared apparently classified information about American nuclear submarines with an Australian businessman during an evening of conversation at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, according to two people familiar with the matter."
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"....off the job." Lol
It's probably hard to be an envoy to Iran when your security clearance has been revoked.
Catherine Herridge CBS on Oct 6 ....
"Sources tell CBS News there is no indication former President Trump shared sensitive records with an Australian billionaire + no charges have been filed by the Special Counsel through their alleged discussion about US Nuclear subs was investigated."
One day earlier on Oct 5, from the usual culprits at the NYT
By Alan Feuer 🤡, Ben Protess, Maggie Haberman 🤡 and Jonathan Swan 🤡
Oct. 5, 2023
"Shortly after he left office, former President Donald J. Trump shared apparently classified information about American nuclear submarines with an Australian businessman during an evening of conversation at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, according to two people familiar with the matter."
Records and information can obviously be two different things, right?
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Anyone else remember the whispers about FDR knowing something about Pearl Harbor prior to attack? It just crossed my mind that maybe Bibi let his guard down just a bit to find a common enemy. He certainly needed a distraction.
A difference to consider is a lot of the fleet at Pearl Harbor was sent out to sea before the attack. Not like the Israelis shut down the music festival where at least 260 were murdered and who knows how many were kidnapped.
But given that Netanyahu is the Israeli Trump at this point in his life, anything is possible.
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Records and information can obviously be two different things, right?
As are "no indication" and "shared apparently .... according to..."
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"....off the job." Lol
It's probably hard to be an envoy to Iran when your security clearance has been revoked.
I think you mean suspended? As for the reason, all you really have now is "sources" snf speculation. Some of it is not adding up. It smells to me like hardliners in Iran and the US could be trying to discredit the work he was doing.
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I think you mean suspended? As for the reason, all you really have now is "sources" snf speculation. Some of it is not adding up. It smells to me like hardliners in Iran and the US could be trying to discredit the work he was doing.
Or he screwed up/intentionally gave info/docs to the wrong person.
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This story about Ziegler is about a father who confronted Ziegler about his daughter being raped in the school bathroom.
Ziegler lied to the board members about the incident to obtain a pass vote on the school's transgender equity policy. For the superintendant, the favorable vote was apparently more important than the incident.
A follow-up on Ziegler.
"LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. — A jury of six women and one man on Friday found ex-Loudoun County Public Schools Superintendent Scott Ziegler guilty of using his position to retaliate against a teacher for cooperating with a grand jury investigating how the district handled sexual assault."
"A month after his January 4 sentencing, Ziegler will face a separate trial on a final misdemeanor charge that was at the core of The Daily Wire’s 2021 story: His false statement at a school board meeting that there had been no sexual assaults in LCPS restrooms–part of a screed denigrating parents who were concerned about a transgender policy being discussed–when in fact he knew that a skirt-wearing boy had anally raped a ninth grader in the girls bathroom just weeks prior."
https://www.dailywire.com/news/jury-finds-former-loudoun-county-superintendent-guilty-of-charges-stemming-from-trans-rape-coverup
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Or he screwed up/intentionally gave info/docs to the wrong person.
Nobody knows that. It appears he likely mishandled something classified and is being investigated.
"Iranian state media" leaking stuff does not add up if he or his people were helping Iran. Why would they do that?
We do know Trump mishandled a large quantity of classified documents.
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Nobody knows that. It appears he likely mishandled something classified and is being investigated.
We do know Trump mishandled a large quantity of classified documents.
Other than the possibility they can share a cell together, I'm not sure what Trump has to do with this.
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A follow-up on Ziegler.
"LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. — A jury of six women and one man on Friday found ex-Loudoun County Public Schools Superintendent Scott Ziegler guilty of using his position to retaliate against a teacher for cooperating with a grand jury investigating how the district handled sexual assault."
"A month after his January 4 sentencing, Ziegler will face a separate trial on a final misdemeanor charge that was at the core of The Daily Wire’s 2021 story: His false statement at a school board meeting that there had been no sexual assaults in LCPS restrooms–part of a screed denigrating parents who were concerned about a transgender policy being discussed–when in fact he knew that a skirt-wearing boy had anally raped a ninth grader in the girls bathroom just weeks prior."
https://www.dailywire.com/news/jury-finds-former-loudoun-county-superintendent-guilty-of-charges-stemming-from-trans-rape-coverup
Somehow there is a belief - in a country where plenty of rapes happen - that was really gonna enable rapists is that they can go into the wrong restroom. The real amusing part is that at the same time you'll excoriate someone for raping someone in the wrong restroom you'll excuse Russell Brand. But Brand is an anti-vaxxer so he's not a real rapist
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Somehow there is a belief - in a country where plenty of rapes happen - that was really gonna enable rapists is that they can go into the wrong restroom. The real amusing part is that at the same time you'll excoriate someone for raping someone in the wrong restroom you'll excuse Russell Brand. But Brand is an anti-vaxxer so he's not a real rapist
That makes lying about what happened ok in your eyes, apparently.
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Falconi, the division attorney, is described in the article as Ziegler's right hand man.
"The grand jury previously said it would have indicted Falconi for witness tampering because of his central role in the rape coverup, but were hamstrung by the fact that Virginia doesn’t have a witness tampering law."
Va may want to address the witness tampering law issue.
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Falconi, the division attorney, is described in the article as Ziegler's right hand man.
"The grand jury previously said it would have indicted Falconi for witness tampering because of his central role in the rape coverup, but were hamstrung by the fact that Virginia doesn’t have a witness tampering law."
Va may want to address the witness tampering law issue.
It's ok, because it is all about the kids. Except when it is really about the alleged adults.
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FOIA requests to NARA regarding communications between VP Biden's office and/or Hunter, Jim Biden, and 2 business entities.
Most likely about climate change and the weather because he never talked to his son about his business dealings.
(https://i.ibb.co/HxRRv3Y/Screenshot-20231010-161443.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P9JJp04)
(https://i.ibb.co/p33tpZ7/Screenshot-20231010-161500.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQQdy6T)
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FOIA requests to NARA regarding communications between VP Biden's office and/or Hunter, Jim Biden, and 2 business entities.
Most likely about climate change and the weather because he never talked to his son about his business dealings.
(https://i.ibb.co/HxRRv3Y/Screenshot-20231010-161443.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P9JJp04)
(https://i.ibb.co/p33tpZ7/Screenshot-20231010-161500.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQQdy6T)
Matt Gaetz just yawns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gaetz-biden-impeachment-rosendale-rcna119131
During an online fundraiser, Matt Gaetz denounced the Biden impeachment effort as unserious
LOL.
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Matt Gaetz just yawns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gaetz-biden-impeachment-rosendale-rcna119131
During an online fundraiser, Matt Gaetz denounced the Biden impeachment effort as unserious
LOL.
Did somebody say it was serious ?
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Did somebody say it was serious ?
One would expect it to be. But we knew it wasn't when McCarthy would not call it for a vote. At least Gaetz can be honest about something other than hating McCarthy.
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One would expect it to be. But we knew it wasn't when McCarthy would not call it for a vote. At least Gaetz can be honest about something other than hating McCarthy.
Too many Republicans have no interest is possibly losing their DC Country Club membership for it to be serious.
The 1st item of business should have been releasing the deposition of IG Michael Atkinson, the guy who worked with the whistleblower in Trump's impeachment.
Never happened.
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Too many Republicans have no interest is possibly losing their DC Country Club membership for it to be serious.
The 1st item of business should have been releasing the deposition of IG Michael Atkinson, the guy who worked with the whistleblower in Trump's impeachment.
Never happened.
Based on what has been reported, FWIW, the contents of the testimony have been a bit " oversold" by certain committee members.
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Based on what has been reported, FWIW, the contents of the testimony have been a bit " oversold" by certain committee members.
'according to sources' ?
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'according to sources' ?
According to Republicans who are pissed that a doofus is overselling the testimony. Ergo, no impeachment vote.
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Other than the possibility they can share a cell together, I'm not sure what Trump has to do with this.
My comment was in response to Mn's denial that Trump shared specific secrets. "Irregardless" of that detail, he still got caught with a large quantity of classified documents. Ironically, he actually stored some of them in a bathroom.
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Lock him up! Lock him up!
https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4254963-new-evidence-may-destroy-bidens-defense-in-his-classified-documents-case/
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how will the biden crime family ever recover from this unauthorized helicopter ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCaVzrW-8xk
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No One AOTC?
(https://i.ibb.co/NFS56hG/IMG-5077.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GdTyvwr)
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Kobayashi Maru
"Every single US embassy around the world is required to have a NEO that can be used in the case of emergency evacuation situations, but the officials explained that the dangerous and over-crowded Kabul airport environment would have rendered any preformed plans ineffective and instead forced them to constantly adapt."
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https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-trial-jury-zoe-kestan-1908731
Juror Falls Asleep During Hunter Biden Trial But Wakes as Exes Testify
Juror has to be a fan of Sleepy Joe, right?
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https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-trial-jury-zoe-kestan-1908731
Juror Falls Asleep During Hunter Biden Trial But Wakes as Exes Testify
Juror has to be a fan of Sleepy Joe, right?
Did any of the family call a spectator a Nazi piece of shit today ?
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Did any of the family call a spectator a Nazi piece of shit today ?
Yes. The Bidens are nothing if not prone to understatement
Is "ex-wife" family, btw?
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Did any of the family call a spectator a Nazi piece of shit today ?
Nazi piece of shit is a bit redundant, but I like her spirit.
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Guilty. Lock Hunter up! Lock Hunter up!
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He should share a cell with The Donald.
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Guilty. Lock Hunter up! Lock Hunter up!
SENTENCE HIM TO LIFE IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD!?!?!?
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Guilty. Lock Hunter up! Lock Hunter up!
It's gonna be the height of Irony when he gets probation and a $2000 fine.
Or - in the "careful what you ask for" department, if they throw him in jail, there will be a lot of "ammunition" to start looking a lot more closely at the next Kyle Rittenhouse.... I mean, basically, this guy was doing drugs and got a gun. That's describes half of MAGA
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No one is above the law, as Mn likes to say.
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No one is above the law, as Mn likes to say.
That is true. Nobody. Hunter Biden is not above the law. Donald Trash is not above law. Will Trash say the verdict was rigged?
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No one is above the law, as Mn likes to say.
No libs are above the law - Mn
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No libs are above the law - Mn
We shall see if he changes his name to that
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No one is above the law, as Mn likes to say.
But nonetheless, better give some more security to the jurors. ;D
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Maybe Joe should wake up and do something about this....time for regime change that the Venezuelans voted for, at the ballot box and with their feet. Do something now and maybe we won't have as many issues at the border....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/humiliated-furious-maduro-locks-down-160120116.html
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Maybe Joe should wake up and do something about this....time for regime change that the Venezuelans voted for, at the ballot box and with their feet. Do something now and maybe we won't have as many issues at the border....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/humiliated-furious-maduro-locks-down-160120116.html
Wow, sounds like our last election…
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Wow, sounds like our last election…
You mean Trump should have done something about Venezuela? Yeah, agreed.
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You mean Trump should have done something about Venezuela? Yeah, agreed.
How’s that $11 beer jackass?! 😂
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How’s that $11 beer jackass?! 😂
Maybe I need to switch to "Beer Like Products" like Coors
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Maybe I need to switch to "Beer Like Products" like Coors
Figured you were a Bud Light person....
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How’s that $11 beer jackass?! 😂
It better be at least 36 ounces.
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Figured you were a Bud Light person....
Also a "Beer like product"
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https://www.wqad.com/article/news/local/dixon-rita-crumwell-biden-comptroller-pardon-commute/526-800e8733-dd1b-4bf9-b9f5-00f3b90fc0b4
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Part of a blanket commutation? Sounds like she was already out on house arrest.
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Now do Michael Conahan.
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1118108084/michael-conahan-mark-ciavarella-kids-for-cash
"Two former Pennsylvania judges who orchestrated a scheme to send children to for-profit jails in exchange for kickbacks were ordered to pay more than $200 million to hundreds of people they victimized in one of the worst judicial scandals in U.S. history."
"Several of the childhood victims who were part of the lawsuit when it began in 2009 have since died from overdoses or suicide, Conner said."
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"...spent 8+1⁄2 years (43% of her sentence) in prison before being released in mid-2021 to serve the remainder of her sentence in home confinement. Her release date was listed as October 20, 2028. On December 12, 2024, Crundwell's sentence was commuted by President Joe Biden."
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So
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Not much talk about this guy.
https://patch.com/illinois/northbrook/biden-pardons-northbrook-businessman-largest-ever-day-clemency
"Eric Bloom, ex-CEO of Sentinel Management, was sentenced to prison in 2015 after being charged with defrauding customers of $665 million."
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"...spent 8+1⁄2 years (43% of her sentence) in prison before being released in mid-2021 to serve the remainder of her sentence in home confinement. Her release date was listed as October 20, 2028. On December 12, 2024, Crundwell's sentence was commuted by President Joe Biden."
Presumably Biden has no idea who this person even is. At least Trump focused on pardoning his buddies.
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https://www.wqad.com/article/news/local/dixon-rita-crumwell-biden-comptroller-pardon-commute/526-800e8733-dd1b-4bf9-b9f5-00f3b90fc0b4
What I want to know is how she could blow through 54 million bucks from a town of 15,000 and it not be detected for 20 years.
Seems the City sued the auditors and the bank where she was stashing the money.
750k per year, I guess that's only like 5 cops, still, it's pretty wild.
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It appears Michael Conahan served 9 years of a 17 1/2 year sentence in prison. In 2020, he was released to home confinement. He was apparently scheduled for full release in 2026. It looks like Biden commuted less than 2 years of his house arrest.
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What I want to know is how she could blow through 54 million bucks from a town of 15,000 and it not be detected for 20 years.
Seems the City sued the auditors and the bank where she was stashing the money.
750k per year, I guess that's only like 5 cops, still, it's pretty wild.
Nod, nod, wink, wink?
I got nothing to say about Dixon. Haven't been there for 30 years.
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She basically blew it on horses and farm property. I know her brother and his family pretty well and went to their lavish 30th anniversary party at the horse facility she built outside of Dixon. This was a few years before the whole thing got blown open. These folks ostensibly had their money from having the only garbage truck business in town. Lots of rumors went around after the fact that he was involved and she’d been funneling money to him to buy farm land and such. The brother sold the business I believe and to my knowledge never got in any trouble. But I’ve fallen out of touch with them, last time I saw them was at the Sandwich Fair probably 10 years ago. I believe the city recovered most of the money through sales of assets and whatnot.
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She basically blew it on horses and farm property. I know her brother and his family pretty well and went to their lavish 30th anniversary party at the horse facility she built outside of Dixon. This was a few years before the whole thing got blown open. These folks ostensibly had their money from having the only garbage truck business in town. Lots of rumors went around after the fact that he was involved and she’d been funneling money to him to buy farm land and such. The brother sold the business I believe and to my knowledge never got in any trouble. But I’ve fallen out of touch with them, last time I saw them was at the Sandwich Fair probably 10 years ago. I believe the city recovered most of the money through sales of assets and whatnot.
Appears one of the "sales of assets" was the sale of the ranch she was living on to her brother. That's where she's had home confinement since her 2021 COVID release to home confinement, so if one connects your dot to that dot, he used the stolen money she funneled to him and gave it back to the City to buy the asset - solid money laundering.
Still not my cup of tea to trade 8 years in the can in order to party for 20. I'm better with 28 average years not in prison.
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It appears Michael Conahan served 9 years of a 17 1/2 year sentence in prison. In 2020, he was released to home confinement. He was apparently scheduled for full release in 2026. It looks like Biden commuted less than 2 years of his house arrest.
Tell it to the Pa Gov and the kids, the ones that are still alive, and their parents.
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Tell it to the Pa Gov and the kids, the ones that are still alive, and their parents.
The guy was already on home confinement. That is where the problem starts. Who cares after that happened?
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The guy was already on home confinement. That is where the problem starts. Who cares after that happened?
Tell it to the kids, the ones who are still alive, and their parents that the guy got let off early.
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Tell it to the kids, the ones who are still alive, and their parents that the guy got let off early.
I understand. But the guy was already out anyways.
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I understand. But the guy was already out anyways.
He wasn't "out". But he is now.
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Judge said he felt like a prisoner in his own home.
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Joe could mandate the covid boosters for the judge and send him back to prison, instead of home confinement, to serve out the rest of his penalty.
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How much "justice for the victims" (retribution, vengeance) is enough?
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How much "justice for the victims" (retribution, vengeance) is enough?
Asking you regarding Trump…
Courts (like in this situation) made their determination already…
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Asking you regarding Trump…
Courts (like in this situation) made their determination already…
And the President made his.
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If Biden can, he should grant everyone on Trump's enemy list some kind of legal immunity from prosecution.
A Trump revenge vaccine..
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Why would they want, or need, some kind of legal immunity ?
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Why would they want, or need, some kind of legal immunity ?
Is that a serious question?
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So you are of the opinion they may have committed crimes ?
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So you are of the opinion they may have committed crimes ?
No.
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Is that a serious question?
Yes, it is. Adam Kinzinger said "bring it on." He isn't a pussy. So he has that going for himself.
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Joe could mandate the covid boosters for the judge and send him back to prison, instead of home confinement, to serve out the rest of his penalty.
I do not believe the president could do that.
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Try to keep up:
"As Politico and The New York Times have reported, the Biden White House is considering pre-emptive pardons for numerous people on Donald Trump’s (and FBI director-designate Kash Patel’s) “enemies list” to spare them the ordeal of baseless harassment and prosecution." -- msnbc
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why on God's green earth would they need immunity then ? lol
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The concern is that Trump and Patel might weaponize the Justice Department to get revenge against Trump's perceived enemies, by filing baseless charges. Of course, no one knew that.
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why on God's green earth would they need immunity then ? lol
Try to keep up:
"As Politico and The New York Times have reported, the Biden White House is considering pre-emptive pardons for numerous people on Donald Trump’s (and FBI director-designate Kash Patel’s) “enemies list” to spare them the ordeal of baseless harassment and prosecution." -- msnbc
lol
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If the charges are "baseless" then the "perceived enemies" should have an adequate defense.
Who are these "perceived enemies" ?
Omg. Somebody might weaponize the justice dept ? lol
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If the charges are "baseless" then the "perceived enemies" should have an adequate defense.
Who are these "perceived enemies" ?
Omg. Somebody might weaponize the justice dept ? lol
Bob Menendez and Henry Cuellar agree with you!
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Yes, it is. Adam Kinzinger said "bring it on." He isn't a pussy. So he has that going for himself.
Does he really want to spend the next 2 to 4 years and lot of money dealing with malicious prosecutions?
OTOH, I kind of a agree with him. Let's revisit the January 6 committee hearings.
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Does he really want to spend the next 2 to 4 years and lot of money dealing with malicious prosecutions?
OTOH, I kind of a agree with him. Let's revisit the January 6 committee hearings.
He has nothing else to do.
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why on God's green earth would they need immunity then ? lol
Why did the SCOTUS grant the President immunity for official acts? Did Trump commit crimes?
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He has nothing else to do.
No one has to accept it.
Some might want to get on with their lives rather than engaging in spitting contests with skunks.
If someone has smoking guns out there like Trump; then they probably deserve what they get.
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Why did the SCOTUS grant the President immunity for official acts? Did Trump commit crimes?
The President should be shielded from baseless accusations and malicious prosecutions for official acts ?
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If the charges are "baseless" then the "perceived enemies" should have an adequate defense.
Who are these "perceived enemies" ?
I never thought of that. Plus, they could sell Bibles and golden shoes to pay their legal expenses.
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The President should be shielded from baseless accusations and malicious prosecutions for official acts ?
Shouldn't the President have an adequate defense against baseless accusations and malicious prosecutions? /s
Some think the people who Trump threatened with revenge for doing their jobs should be shielded from baseless accusations and malicious prosecution.
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Shouldn't the President have an adequate defense against baseless accusations and malicious prosecutions? /s
Some think the people who Trump threatened with revenge for doing their jobs should be shielded from baseless accusations and malicious prosecution.
If the accusations aren't baseless and the prosecution is not malicious is that revenge ?
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If the charges are "baseless" then the "perceived enemies" should have an adequate defense.
Who are these "perceived enemies" ?
Omg. Somebody might weaponize the justice dept ? lol
Do you think these people would sit worry free at home while their lawyers work pro bono to keep them out of jail?
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Do you think these people would sit worry free at home while their lawyers work pro bono to keep them out of jail?
But, but, but I'm being told they didn't do anything wrong. They shouldn't have anything to worry about.
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But, but, but I'm being told they didn't do anything wrong. They shouldn't have anything to worry about.
Then, then, the President shouldn't need immunity. You can't have it both ways.
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If the accusations aren't baseless and the prosecution is not malicious is that revenge ?
If the accusations aren't baseless and the prosecutions are not malicious; should the President have immunity?
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So you are of the opinion they may have committed crimes ?
Voting against trump is a crime!
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If the charges are "baseless" then the "perceived enemies" should have an adequate defense.
Who are these "perceived enemies" ?
Omg. Somebody might weaponize the justice dept ? lol
I see you are still new here.
When a cop writes a bullshit traffic ticket, and you show up to contest it and the cop doesn't show, you "beat the baseless charges" but also wasted a day of your time dealing with traffic court. Harassment is an effective tool.
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If the accusations aren't baseless and the prosecution is not malicious is that revenge ?
If there is sufficient evidence of an actual crime; then by all means, investigate. If the crime is sedition, well ...
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Does he really want to spend the next 2 to 4 years and lot of money dealing with malicious prosecutions?
OTOH, I kind of a agree with him. Let's revisit the January 6 committee hearings.
Kinzinger would LOVE to do that. I mean, it's not particularly his first choice of what to do with his life, wishes this wasn't an issue, but given the state we are in, a set of baseless charges against him gives him the opportunity to fight back in broad daylight, which is basically his job right now.
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Then, then, the President shouldn't need immunity. You can't have it both ways.
You left out "have to" after "shouldn't".
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If the accusations aren't baseless and the prosecutions are not malicious; should the President have immunity?
SCOTUS apparently thinks it's now necessary.
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DemocRats don’t want Trump to do to them what they’ve done to him for 8 years !
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OTOH, I kind of a agree with him. Let's revisit the January 6 committee hearings.
Let's.
"Based on the evidence obtained by this Subcommittee, numerous federal laws were likely broken
by Liz Cheney, the former Vice Chair of the January 6 Select Committee, and these violations
should be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation."
https://cha.house.gov/2024/12/chairman-loudermilk-releases-second-january-6-2021-report/1699d69d-80c8-4098-bc1a-4935524c4b76
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Dirt digging at its finest. Looks like bullshit. Cheney told Cassidy Hutchinson she could not discuss her testimony without her lawyer present. Hutchinson contacted Cheney anyway. It appears there may have been concerns about whose interests the lawyer may have been representing.
. “Even amid multiple failures, there were two common elements that significantly contributed to the security issues: an excessive amount of political influence on critical decisions, and a greater concern over the optics than for protecting life and property.”-- loudermilk committee
It wasn't the fault of the people who attacked the capital with the intention of overturning an election. It was a security failure by the Democrats. Orwellian
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Interesting:
""Passantino was the lawyer for Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide who was unemployed at the time, who under subpoena testified before the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack.
Trump's Save America political action committee paid Passantino for his representation of Hutchinson, and the committee reported that he did not tell her who was paying him. After she was deposed, Hutchinson received a call from a top aide to Mark Meadows saying: "Mark wants me to let you know that he knows you’re loyal, and he knows you’ll do the right thing tomorrow and that you’re going to protect him and the boss."
Concerned that her testimony was being conveyed to Trump, and suspecting Passantino's legal team of leaking it to him, but having no evidence of any leak, she terminated Passantino's representation of her."
"Hutchinson testified that Passantino assured her that "Trump world" would find her a job and keep her in the family"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Passantino
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Dirt digging at its finest. Looks like bullshit. Cheney told Cassidy Hutchinson she could not discuss her testimony without her lawyer present. Hutchinson contacted Cheney anyway. It appears there may have been concerns about whose interests the lawyer may have been representing.
. “Even amid multiple failures, there were two common elements that significantly contributed to the security issues: an excessive amount of political influence on critical decisions, and a greater concern over the optics than for protecting life and property.”-- loudermilk committee
It wasn't the fault of the people who attacked the capital with the intention of overturning an election. It was a security failure by the Democrats. Orwellian
Maybe you can ask Thompson to turn over the missing terabyte. Tell him that you would like to revisit the committee's work.
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Interesting:
""Passantino was the lawyer for Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide who was unemployed at the time, who under subpoena testified before the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack.
Trump's Save America political action committee paid Passantino for his representation of Hutchinson, and the committee reported that he did not tell her who was paying him. After she was deposed, Hutchinson received a call from a top aide to Mark Meadows saying: "Mark wants me to let you know that he knows you’re loyal, and he knows you’ll do the right thing tomorrow and that you’re going to protect him and the boss."
Concerned that her testimony was being conveyed to Trump, and suspecting Passantino's legal team of leaking it to him, but having no evidence of any leak, she terminated Passantino's representation of her."
"Hutchinson testified that Passantino assured her that "Trump world" would find her a job and keep her in the family"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Passantino
Hutchinson said that she had overheard that Trump lunged at the steering wheel and attacked the driver.
The 2 people that were in the SUV ? Nope, didn't happen.
Hutchinson said she had written a note.
Herschmann: 'nope, I wrote it.'
You're going with her ?
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Key witness had a high powered lawyer secretly paid for by Trump. It's not hard to connect the dots.
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Hutchinson said that she had overheard that Trump lunged at the steering wheel and attacked the driver.
The 2 people that were in the SUV ? Nope, didn't happen.
Hutchinson said she had written a note.
Herschmann: 'nope, I wrote it.'
You're going with her ?
Not really. I am not going against her either. I am not going with the lawyer the white house assigned to her. I am.sure to hell not going with Loudermilk.
"Ethics Panels Dismiss Complaints Against Former Lawyer for Jan. 6 Witness
The witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, declined to cooperate with inquiries into Stefan Passantino prompted by her assertions that he pressed her to protect Donald Trump."
Ethics Panels Dismiss Complaints Against Former Lawyer for Jan. 6 Witness https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/19/us/politics/stefan-passantino-cassidy-hutchinson-jan-6.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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Key witness had a high powered lawyer secretly paid for by Trump. It's not hard to connect the dots.
Things that didn't happen did.
Did you enjoy Hutchinson's book ?
Lol
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Things that didn't happen did.
Did you enjoy Hutchinson's book ?
Lol
Lol. Your alternative facts. You think Hutchinson could afford Stefan Passantino?
"Trump's Save America political action committee paid Passantino for his representation of Hutchinson, and the committee reported that he did not tell her who was paying him." -- ibid
More:
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/cassidy-hutchinson-s-take-on-her-trump-world-lawyer-and-why-it-still-matters
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"Possible witnesses against ***** are “routinely” being threatened in a way that could intimidate them .." -- prosecutors
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Lol. Your alternative facts. You think Hutchinson could afford Stefan Passantino?
"Trump's Save America political action committee paid Passantino for his representation of Hutchinson, and the committee reported that he did not tell her who was paying him." -- ibid
More:
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/cassidy-hutchinson-s-take-on-her-trump-world-lawyer-and-why-it-still-matters
My alternative facts. Lol
Hutchinson had statements refuted by testimony.
He didn't tell Hutchinson. Maybe after going to Trump for help she never asked, in words, 'who's paying you ?'
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Maybe you can ask Thompson to turn over the missing terabyte. Tell him that you would like to revisit the committee's work.
How exactly are we talking about terabytes and not people bashing through the window of the capitol, shitting on desks, etc...
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My alternative facts. Lol
Hutchinson had statements refuted by testimony.
He didn't tell Hutchinson. Maybe after going to Trump for help she never asked, in words, 'who's paying you ?'
She also had testimony corroborated by others. Maybe others misrepresented what happened?
Trump made contradictory statements about her. He never heard of her. She was mad because he didn't take her on a trip. Implied she was nobody important. Yet she was assigned a high powered attorney..
She had said her Trump paid attorney pushed her to protect Trump. Then she refused to cooperate after charged were fired. Was she threatened?
Were others threatened? Judges, prosecutors, and witnesses were threatened in other cases.
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Got it.
The 2 career Secret Service agents assigned to the President of the United States misrepresented what happened and the White House attorney who said that he wrote the note that Hutchinson said that she had written misrepresented who actually wrote the note.
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How exactly are we talking about terabytes and not people bashing through the window of the capitol, shitting on desks, etc...
Because none of that ever happened. White House security let them in and took them on a tour. It was FBI moles that caused all the trouble.
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Got it.
The 2 career Secret Service agents assigned to the President of the United States misrepresented what happened and the White House attorney who said that he wrote the note that Hutchinson said that she had written misrepresented who actually wrote the note.
Of course Career Secret Service agents would never delete texts requested by the January 6 committee; then give conflicting explanations about what happened.
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Of course Career Secret Service agents would never delete texts requested by the January 6 committee; then give conflicting explanations about what happened.
Of course the Jan 6 committee wouldn't hand over a terabyte of data and the FBI wouldn't hand over a 302.
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Of course the Jan 6 committee wouldn't hand over a terabyte of data and the FBI wouldn't hand over a 302.
Yeah, not sure why he’d think one is plausible and the other so outlandish. Weird…
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Of course the Jan 6 committee wouldn't hand over a terabyte of data and the FBI wouldn't hand over a 302.
they are on the laptop. with hillary's emails
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If we’ve seen anything the last 4 years it’s that the Democrats will do and have done everything they are suggesting Trump will do when in office. THEY HAVE weaponized the DOJ against a political opponent, but not well enough to keep him from winning. Now they’re scared shitless that he might do it back to them. Isn’t turnabout fair play?!
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If we’ve seen anything the last 4 years it’s that the Democrats will do and have done everything they are suggesting Trump will do when in office. THEY HAVE weaponized the DOJ against a political opponent, but not well enough to keep him from winning. Now they’re scared shitless that he might do it back to them. Isn’t turnabout fair play?!
The Democrats implemented dumbass tariffs?
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If we’ve seen anything the last 4 years it’s that the Democrats will do and have done everything they are suggesting Trump will do when in office. THEY HAVE weaponized the DOJ against a political opponent, but not well enough to keep him from winning. Now they’re scared shitless that he might do it back to them. Isn’t turnabout fair play?!
I'm not sure that's what they're worried about, but it does feed the 'he's a threat to democracy' bit.
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I'm not sure that's what they're worried about, but it does feed the 'he's a threat to democracy' bit.
They are too dumb to realize the opportunity they have with defending these baseless investigations (instead of dragging them out like Trump did).
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They are too dumb to realize the opportunity they have with defending these baseless investigations (instead of dragging them out like Trump did).
Is that why Slopadopoulos and ABC forked over $15 million to the Fake News Wing of the Trump Library ?
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They are too dumb to realize the opportunity they have with defending these baseless investigations (instead of dragging them out like Trump did).
As long as you're here. Is a lawyer required to tell a pro bono client who is paying for the legal services if the client doesn't ask who is paying for the services, or if it is truly pro bono work ?
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Is that why Slopadopoulos and ABC forked over $15 million to the Fake News Wing of the Trump Library ?
Right after the trial judge smacked down Trump's argument? It appears the ABC corporate overlords made the decision to suck up to Trump.
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As long as you're here. Is a lawyer required to tell a pro bono client who is paying for the legal services if the client doesn't ask who is paying for the services, or if it is truly pro bono work ?
Pro bono means you are not getting paid....
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As long as you're here. Is a lawyer required to tell a pro bono client who is paying for the legal services if the client doesn't ask who is paying for the services, or if it is truly pro bono work ?
I do not know what the ethics rules are in DC, but if I were in that position I would let the person know who was paying the bill and reassure them that my obligation is towards them, not the person paying the bill. This would all be in writing.
But then again, a shit ton of lawyers who did work in "Trump's orbit" no longer have their law licenses....
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Pro bono means you are not getting paid....
you're having a battle of wits with an unarmed man
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Pro bono means you are not getting paid....
Not being paid at all or not being paid by the client ?
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The texts that might confirm Hutchinson's account were conveniently destroyed by the secret service.
Concerns were expressed that Trump's Secret Service detail was personally loyal to him.
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Not being paid at all or not being paid by the client ?
Well, I consider "pro bono" stuff as doing it for free as charity (or when forced to represent someone by the federal court). Others may include doing work at lower than usual rates in their definition. Who pays you is irrelevant to "pro bono."
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The texts that might confirm Hutchinson's account were conveniently destroyed by the secret service.
Concerns were expressed that Trump's Secret Service detail was personally loyal to him.
Mental gymnastics
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Concerns were expressed that Trump's Secret Service detail was personally loyal to him.
Did you read that in the newspapers ?
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Right after the trial judge smacked down Trump's argument? It appears the ABC corporate overlords made the decision to suck up to Trump.
I'm guessing they forked over the $15 million to avoid discovery.
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Well, I consider "pro bono" stuff as doing it for free as charity (or when forced to represent someone by the federal court). Others may include doing work at lower than usual rates in their definition. Who pays you is irrelevant to "pro bono."he
Exactly. Cassidy Hutchinson's first lawyer during the January 6 hearing was paid for by Trump's people. She was reportedly unaware of that. After she fired him, Cheney reportedly helped her obtain pro bobo counsel.
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Did you read that in the newspapers ?
Anthony Ornato
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/31/joe-biden-secret-service-team-trump-loyalty
*Two Secret Service agents were close to Trump and seen as his enablers, said Carol Leonnig.
*The agents plan[ned] to dispute part of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony regarding Trump, said Leonnig.
*Many in Trump's detail cheered the Capitol riot, said Leonnig, whose book covers the Secret Service.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-secret-service-detail-cheered-capitol-riot-author-2022-6
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Exactly. Cassidy Hutchinson's first lawyer during the January 6 hearing was paid for by Trump's people. She was reportedly unaware of that. After she fired him, Cheney helped her obtain pro bobo council.
I wonder why the accounts of Cheney and Hutchinson on the new representation differ ?
Maybe the Signal chats between Hutchinson and Cheney from the preceding days would shed some light.
Hutchinson says she contacted Cheney for help in finding a payment plan attorney, not pro bono representation.
(https://i.ibb.co/zP5nQdX/Screenshot-20241217-174732-One-Drive.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tYhmQRq)
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I wonder why the accounts of Cheney and Hutchinson on the new representation differ ?
Maybe the Signal chats between Hutchinson and Cheney from the preceding days would shed some light.
Hutchinson says she contacted Cheney for help in finding a payment plan attorney, not pro bono representation.
(https://i.ibb.co/zP5nQdX/Screenshot-20241217-174732-One-Drive.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tYhmQRq)
Minutiae. The accounts I read indicated Cheney and or that other woman helped her arrange a pro bono attorney. I am not going to sit up all night worrying about it.
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"State-of-the-art end-to-end encryption (powered by the open source Signal Protocol) keeps your conversations secure. We can't read your messages or listen to your calls, and no one else can either. Privacy isn’t an optional mode — it’s just the way that Signal works. Every message, every call, every time."
Or not.
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Minutiae. The accounts I read indicated Cheney and or that other woman helped her arrange a pro bono attorney. I am not going to sit up all night worrying about it.
So essentially you’ll assume any account that is anti-Trump to be correct, and any other to be incorrect, minutiae, conspiracy theory, or all of the above? This is a rhetorical question.
I’d love to know what actually happened behind the scenes on Jan 6.
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Minutiae. The accounts I read indicated Cheney and or that other woman helped her arrange a pro bono attorney. I am not going to sit up all night worrying about it.
You don't believe Hutchinson ?
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So essentially you’ll assume any account that is anti-Trump to be correct, and any other to be incorrect, minutiae, conspiracy theory, or all of the above? This is a rhetorical question.
I’d love to know what actually happened behind the scenes on Jan 6.
Bingo. This is why you got the term badass…
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"State-of-the-art end-to-end encryption (powered by the open source Signal Protocol) keeps your conversations secure. We can't read your messages or listen to your calls, and no one else can either. Privacy isn’t an optional mode — it’s just the way that Signal works. Every message, every call, every time."
Or not.
Some might say that using encrypted chat between a congressional committee and a witness might raise a red flag.
Some, not all.
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You don't believe Hutchinson ?
I neither believe nor disbelieve her. She got some things right right, some things are disputed, and she was inconsistent on others.
It's like you pick around the edges looking for some minor, irrelevant detail to contest. I could probably wade through a bunch of web sites to see who said what or when, but I don't care if the 2nd lawyer was pro bono or if she made payments. It makes no difference.
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So essentially you’ll assume any account that is anti-Trump to be correct, and any other to be incorrect, minutiae, conspiracy theory, or all of the above? This is a rhetorical question.
I’d love to know what actually happened behind the scenes on Jan 6.
Apparently, Hutchinson fired the lawyer Trump's people assigned to her. She got a new one via Cheney and that other woman. I thought it was pro bono. MN says it was on a payment plan. I couldn't care less either way.
Of greater interest is the story about the secret service agent(s) that organized Trump rallies, planned to contradict Hutchinson, etc.
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Exactly. Cassidy Hutchinson's first lawyer during the January 6 hearing was paid for by Trump's people. She was reportedly unaware of that.
From a Feb 2, 2024 letter from the D.C. Office of Disciplinary Counsel to Passentino regarding the ethics charges filed against him.
"You were contacted by a third party, the Save America PAC, to represent Ms.
Hutchinson, a former White House employee, who had been subpoenaed to an interview by the
January 6 Committee. With Ms.Hutchinson's knowledge and consent, the PAC agreed to pay her
legal fees."
"Ms. Hutchinson made some allegations about your conduct to the Committee , but she refused to
cooperate in our investigation."
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“We just want to focus on protecting the President,” Hutchinson said Passantino told her before her first interview with the panel. “We all know that you’re loyal.”
Passantino, who was, strikingly, formerly a top ethics attorney in the Trump White House, was paid by a Trump PAC called Save America, to represent Hutchinson. She didn’t know that at the time, because he refused to tell her who was paying him for the work, she said. She also said he shared details about her testimony with other lawyers working for Trump clients against her wishes.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/12/cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-ethics-lawyer-january-6-report/
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The Washington D.C. Office of Disciplinary Counsel must not read Mother Jones. 😂😂
I wonder where they go for info. Obviously not Hutchinson tho, she wouldn't cooperate.
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I'm guessing they forked over the $15 million to avoid discovery.
They were scheduled to depose Trump. Didn't the judge basically rule Trump had some major issues with his claim?
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So essentially you’ll assume any account that is anti-Trump to be correct, and any other to be incorrect, minutiae, conspiracy theory, or all of the above? This is a rhetorical question.
I’d love to know what actually happened behind the scenes on Jan 6.
We are not going to find out now, that's for sure
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They were scheduled to depose Trump. Didn't the judge basically rule Trump had some major issues with his claim?
I believe both sides were scheduled for 4 hour depositions.
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We are not going to find out now, that's for sure
I’m confident the truth lies somewhere in the middle but that won’t stop people all over the board from obsessing over whatever confirms their bias. Which goes for everything Trump.
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The Washington D.C. Office of Disciplinary Counsel must not read Mother Jones.
I wonder where they go for info. Obviously not Hutchinson tho, she wouldn't cooperate.
It seems they got their information from Hutchinson's testimony..
She didn't cooperate with the DC disciplinary investigating the ethics complaint against Pastrami (sic)
Why didn't she cooperate? Was there witness intimidation going on?
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Idk maybe she is full of shit?
We’ll never know, will we?
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But, but, but I'm being told they didn't do anything wrong. They shouldn't have anything to worry about.
Someone doesn’t understand the time, stress, and cost of defending yourself in court.
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Someone doesn’t understand the time, stress, and cost of defending yourself in court.
Trump sure does after the Democrats weaponized the DOJ against him on their witch hunt to try and prevent him from running again…
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Someone doesn’t understand the time, stress, and cost of defending yourself in court.
Good one. Lol.
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Ms Hutchinson gets refuted, again.
https://x.com/_WilliamsonBen/status/1869196673995485339
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Trump sure does after the Democrats weaponized the DOJ against him on their witch hunt to try and prevent him from running again…
Lololololololol
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Trump is the most corrupt President we’ve ever had, and it isn’t close.
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Trump sure does after the Democrats weaponized the DOJ against him on their witch hunt to try and prevent him from running again…
Lololololololol
That was the Colorado case.
He's only got the 1 term left. Unless he appoints himself dictator for life. Or king, or whatever we're told he'll do.
The efforts at election interference gave Trump the popular vote and the Electoral College.
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Someone doesn’t understand the time, stress, and cost of defending yourself in court.
I laughed out loud
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Trump is the most corrupt President we’ve ever had, and it isn’t close.
Good bot
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I laughed out loud
Why is that funny? Facing prosecution and jail is typically a long, stressful, and expensive experience.
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Good bot
You really can’t be this fucking clueless. The Saudis paid his kids billions.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jared-kushner-post-white-house-business-moves-saudis-wealth-fund-mohammed-bin-salman-jamal-khashoggi/
But but but Hunter’s laptop.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/
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Name me another president who had to pay back millions of dollars and were banned from running charities because they stole money from veterans and kids with cancer.
https://apnews.com/general-news-united-states-government-7b8d0f5ce9cb4cadad948c2c414afd57
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Trump sure does after the Democrats weaponized the DOJ against him on their witch hunt to try and prevent him from running again…
Spare me the fake outrage. That's his element. He thrives in it. He uses it as a fundraising tool. He defends himself by sliming and threatening his 'enemies' -- judges, prosecutors, witnesses, journalists and reporters, political opponents...
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna845181
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Name me another president that invited a mob to the Capitol so they could overturn the results of an election. You guys are fucking clueless. Bots.
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I laughed out loud
Harassing enemies via the courts has been part of Trump's business MO going way back. That is how got away with not paying subcontractors. He had more lawyers. So what if he got some of his karmic rewards?
People on his enemies lists have also said they and their families were threatened.
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/01/business/trump-tower-saudi-arabia
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"What we're seeing here ... is an actual, organized effort at intimidation and fear."-- David French
Conservative Writer Details Threats And Intimidation From Trump Supporters
October 27, 2016
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/writer-details-threats-intimidation-trump-supporters/
"Throughout the campaign, Trump ran with two messages. On the airwaves, he convinced millions of Americans that they were electing the Trump of January 2019, when inflation was low and the border was under reasonable control. At his rallies, he told MAGA that it was electing the Trump of January 2021, the man unleashed from establishment control and hell-bent on burning it all down."
Donald Trump is already starting to fail
Posted 11:28 a.m. Nov 19
https://www.wral.com/story/david-french-donald-trump-is-already-starting-to-fail/21729167/
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The Washington D.C. Office of Disciplinary Counsel must not read Mother Jones. 😂😂
I wonder where they go for info. Obviously not Hutchinson tho, she wouldn't cooperate.
"... in an interview with the House select committee in September 2022, after Hutchinson had fired Passantino, Hutchinson described her first exchange with him in more detail than she does in the book:
So then I had asked him, “... Would you mind letting me know where the funding for this is coming from? I want to thank them. ...”
And he said, “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now. Don’t worry, we’re taking care of you. Like, you’re never going to get a bill for this, so if that’s what you’re worried about.”
I was like, “Okay. That’s what I was worried about.” Wasn’t the only thing I was worried about."
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/cassidy-hutchinson-s-take-on-her-trump-world-lawyer-and-why-it-still-matters
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Why is that funny? Facing prosecution and jail is typically a long, stressful, and expensive experience.
It is? Isn't that the point they are trying to make? The difference is the claims against Trump are substantive (he kept documents he was not supposed to have any longer in his bathroom); the claims against, say, Liz Cheney are not (at least on their face). Nonetheless, I am guessing Joe will set a really bad precedent and give blanket pardons to innocent people.
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I laughed out loud
I guess you must understand those costs.
Not surprising to hear you end up in court a lot
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Name me another president that invited a mob to the Capitol so they could overturn the results of an election. You guys are fucking clueless. Bots.
It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.
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It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.
thanks Golf
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It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.
It’s hilarious that you think that’s what didn’t happen. I mean, just beyond idiotic. What do you think the whole “stop the steal” thing was about? Are you seriously this much of a bot?
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Trump just happened to speak at a rally and encouraged his supporters to march to the Capitol and “show strength” hours before they confirmed the results of the election. I’m sure the date and time of that rally were purely coincidental.
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It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.
So in your opinion, what did happen? I’d be fascinated to hear this.
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So in your opinion, what did happen? I’d be fascinated to hear this.
I don’t know. Neither do you. That’s why I say I would love to know what actually happened. I used to think kind of the same way you do, but new shit has come to light, man. I believed that Trump was wrong and an idiot to keep denying the election results for so long because I believed in the inherent fairness of our elections. Then we have an election in 2024 and magically the turnout drops back to where it is pretty much EVERY OTHER YEAR except 2020 when millions upon millions of extra votes showed up. Some of which came in droves in the middle of the night and shifted swing states from Trump to Biden. We didn’t see anything like that this year when people were watching more closely.
I wasn’t there on January 6 (Free Shot Day of Reconciliation) and there are a lot of conflicting reports from people that were. Only one side got a voice until recently. I don’t pick and choose who to believe based on my feelings about Trump. I am more interested in knowing what actually happened than what the TDS media has spun out, but we’ll likely never know. Just like we don’t know anything about the kid who shot Trump, or what happened to Kennedy.
We were told this was some organic happening yet people who actually were there said all along there were feds involved. It all was labeled a conspiracy theory, until it was revealed to be true. Now the same “iTs a cOnsPiRaCy!” people have pivoted to, “Well I would sure hope there were feds there!”
Trump instructed his followers to be peaceful. The “show strength” quote you referenced above is as out-of-context as what the fake news said that he said in Charlottesville.
Don’t you think it a bit odd that the Capitol building of the most powerful nation in the world was left essentially undefended against this “mob” that Trump “incited?” And yes, I have come around to thinking there were likely agent provocateurs involved.
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I don’t know. Neither do you.
I stopped reading your drivel and denialism right here. If I get super bored, maybe I’ll check out the rest later. But I doubt it. Laughable shit, here. Talk about head in the fucking sand.
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I don't think Custard understands what a Confidential Informant (CI) actually is.
CIs are not LEOs. They are civilians, often criminals, who secretly provide information to LEOs. The FBI and other law enforcement likely had CIs within the Proud Boys and other right wing groups as well as Antifa and other left wing groups. If they didn't; they weren't doing their job.
Saying they had CIs was never a conspiracy theory. To jump from civilian CIs to Agents Provocateur is a stretch at best.
A CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT IS A SECRET SOURCE WHO, THROUGH A CONTACT OFFICER, SUPPLIES INFORMATION ON CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO THE POLICE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENT.
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Jan 3. The guy who we were told invited a mob to overturn the results of the election is quoted by the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff as having said to make it "safe".
The people tasked with the job of making it "safe" apparently had other concerns.
The people tasked with making Minneapolis "safe" in the summer of 2020 apparently had better ideas also.
Cities across the country saw what we were told were 'mostly peaceful protests'. We were told that the destruction and deaths were simply a side effect of rightful grievances. It was all ok then.
Intelligence knew that people similar to those who caused the death and destruction in the summer of 2020 may be present on Jan 6. Trump knew too.
"At 3:04pm, Miller provided verbal approval to Secretary McCarthy for immediate deployment of the DCNG. What was Secretary McCarthy doing between receiving this approval, and 5:08pm, when the order eventually reaches the D.C. National Guard? Why didn’t he communicate this approval for a full two hours?
At 3:18pm, Secretary McCarthy told Congressional Democrat Leadership that the DC National Guard had the “green light” and “is moving”. Two hours would pass before Secretary McCarthy’s deployment order would ACTUALLY be communicated to the DCNG.
In these vital hours, the DCNG had been trying but was unable to reach Secretary McCarthy.
DCNG Adjutant General Aaron Dean: “[Walker] tried to call Secretary McCarthy three times between 2:30 and 5pm. He said, ‘I haven’t heard from him all day.’ When he tried to call his cell phone, it went straight to voicemail.”
https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transcripts-show-president-trump-s-directives-to-pentagon-leadership-to-keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored
But for the inauguation 2 weeks later .....
" The Pentagon has authorized up to 25,000 National Guard members for President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, the National Guard Bureau said in a press release Friday, marking an increase from the 21,000 troops authorized a day earlier."
"The National Guard will have more than strength in numbers. The Department of Defense announced Tuesday that National Guard members will be armed as they are supporting US Capitol security in Washington, DC, ahead of Inauguration Day."
"Capt. Chelsi Johnson, spokesperson for the DC National Guard, said in a statement to CNN that the move was requested by federal authorities and authorized by Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy. The first wave of National Guard troops who arrived at the Capitol were unarmed."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/pentagon-national-guard-inauguration/index.html
Excuse me, but wtf is the President of the United States/Commander in Chief other than a "federal authority" who is quoted as saying to have "sufficient National Guard or Solders to make sure it's a safe event."
".... do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it's safe."
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Jan 3. The guy who we were told invited a mob to overturn the results of the election is quoted by the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff as having said to make it "safe".
The people tasked with the job of making it "safe" apparently had other concerns.
The people tasked with making Minneapolis "safe" in the summer of 2020 apparently had better ideas also.
Cities across the country saw what we were told were 'mostly peaceful protests'. We were told that the destruction and deaths were simply a side effect of rightful grievances. It was all ok then.
Intelligence knew that people similar to those who caused the death and destruction in the summer of 2020 may be present on Jan 6. Trump knew too.
"At 3:04pm, Miller provided verbal approval to Secretary McCarthy for immediate deployment of the DCNG. What was Secretary McCarthy doing between receiving this approval, and 5:08pm, when the order eventually reaches the D.C. National Guard? Why didn’t he communicate this approval for a full two hours?
At 3:18pm, Secretary McCarthy told Congressional Democrat Leadership that the DC National Guard had the “green light” and “is moving”. Two hours would pass before Secretary McCarthy’s deployment order would ACTUALLY be communicated to the DCNG.
In these vital hours, the DCNG had been trying but was unable to reach Secretary McCarthy.
DCNG Adjutant General Aaron Dean: “[Walker] tried to call Secretary McCarthy three times between 2:30 and 5pm. He said, ‘I haven’t heard from him all day.’ When he tried to call his cell phone, it went straight to voicemail.”
https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transcripts-show-president-trump-s-directives-to-pentagon-leadership-to-keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored
But for the inauguation 2 weeks later .....
" The Pentagon has authorized up to 25,000 National Guard members for President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, the National Guard Bureau said in a press release Friday, marking an increase from the 21,000 troops authorized a day earlier."
"The National Guard will have more than strength in numbers. The Department of Defense announced Tuesday that National Guard members will be armed as they are supporting US Capitol security in Washington, DC, ahead of Inauguration Day."
"Capt. Chelsi Johnson, spokesperson for the DC National Guard, said in a statement to CNN that the move was requested by federal authorities and authorized by Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy. The first wave of National Guard troops who arrived at the Capitol were unarmed."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/pentagon-national-guard-inauguration/index.html
Excuse me, but wtf is the President of the United States/Commander in Chief other than a "federal authority" who is quoted as saying to have "sufficient National Guard or Solders to make sure it's a safe event."
".... do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it's safe."
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Don’t go all factual on them. They will just make more shit up…
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Don’t go all factual on them. They will just make more shit up…
I suppose we could go back to the House resolution that brought about the committee.
"The select committee must (1) conduct an investigation of the relevant facts and circumstances relating to the attack on the Capitol; (2) identify, review, and evaluate the causes of ......"
Dunno, but maybe the omitted 1 terabyte of data addressed some of the issues related to the causes. 😁
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Some people have trouble processing the information they read.
Loudermilk is effectively Trump's defense attorney.
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So Custard is romancing the idea that 1/6 was an inside job. Fantastic. Talk about drinking the kool-aid.
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Here you go, you dumbfucks can read the actual memo behind the January 6th plan. JFC. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html
The motherfucker got disbarred as a result. https://statesunited.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Eastman-Decision.pdf
Meanwhile Chesebro pleaded guilty in Georgia in the RICO case. Which is still in effect. https://apnews.com/article/georgia-election-indictment-trump-chesebro-675a22ff0004de097be31021cf949080
Yeah, it was an inside job. Inside the fucking White House.
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How about the deleted SS texts that would support Cassidy Hutchinson?
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I don’t know. Neither do you. That’s why I say I would love to know what actually happened. I
Shit post. Concern troll.
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We were told this was some organic happening yet people who actually were there said all along there were feds involved. It all was labeled a conspiracy theory, until it was revealed to be true. Now the same “iTs a cOnsPiRaCy!” people have pivoted to, “Well I would sure hope there were feds there!”
Trump instructed his followers to be peaceful. The “show strength” quote you referenced above is as out-of-context as what the fake news said that he said in Charlottesville.
Don’t you think it a bit odd that the Capitol building of the most powerful nation in the world was left essentially undefended against this “mob” that Trump “incited?” And yes, I have come around to thinking there were likely agent provocateurs involved.
If Trump instructed his followers to be peaceful, and he's the leader you believe him to be - then why would the Capitol need to be defended?
If the people causing the trouble are all agent provacateurs - why is Trump indicating he will pardon them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk
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Excuse me, but wtf is the President of the United States/Commander in Chief other than a "federal authority" who is quoted as saying to have "sufficient National Guard or Solders to make sure it's a safe event."
".... do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it's safe."
He told them to be peaceful and patriotic. But he was worried that it wouldn't be safe? Are you saying he can't control his cult?
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So Custard is romancing the idea that 1/6 was an inside job. Fantastic. Talk about drinking the kool-aid.
an inside job by agents provocateurs that Trump now calls "hostages" and whom he will pardon, apparently
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Hey Custard, what’s your take on the moon landing? Was Vietnam really started over a lost bet?
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Don’t you think it a bit odd that the Capitol building of the most powerful nation in the world was left essentially undefended against this “mob” that Trump “incited?” And yes, I have come around to thinking there were likely agent provocateurs involved.
We all watched in horror. There's no shining that turd.
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You can put a shine on most anything with a little spit and elbow grease.
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Don’t you think it a bit odd that the Capitol building of the most powerful nation in the world was left essentially undefended against this “mob” that Trump “incited?”
What would you have done so differently? I’m sure Capitol Hill police had extra people on that day. Pre-emptively call in the NG?
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Do what the President said to do would have been a good start.
And no, I believe I remember hearing that the Capitol Police was short about 1/3 due to time off, sick time, etc.
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Do what the President said to do would have been a good start.
And no, I believe I remember hearing that the Capitol Police was short about 1/3 due to time off, sick time, etc.
The president told them to be peaceful and patriotic. It would have been good if they had done that.
What should be the punishment for not following what the President told them to do?
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Do what the President said to do would have been a good start.
And no, I believe I remember hearing that the Capitol Police was short about 1/3 due to time off, sick time, etc.
Which part?
“Show strength?”
"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.”
All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they're doing. And stolen by the fake news media. That's what they've done and what they're doing. We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved.
Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.”
We will not let them silence your voices. We're not going to let it happen, I'm not going to let it happen.
(Audience chants: "Fight for Trump.")
Thank you.
Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We're supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution.
And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn't, that will be a, a sad day for our country because you're sworn to uphold our Constitution.
Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.
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You don’t think he at best sent mixed messages? I could have added more, but I’m taking my kid to see Sonic 3.
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You don’t think he at best sent mixed messages? I could have added more, but I’m taking my kid to see Sonic 3.
I was referring to Gen. Milley when he quoted the President of the United States as saying "there's going to be a large amount of protesters here on the 6th, make sure you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers to make sure it's a safe event .... do whatever you have to do. Make sure it's safe."
Is the dog in his/her crate ?
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I was referring to Gen. Milley when he quoted the President of the United States as saying "there's going to be a large amount of protesters here on the 6th, make sure you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers to make sure it's a safe event .... do whatever you have to do. Make sure it's safe."
Is the dog in his/her crate ?
once again with feeling - why would he be worried it wouldn't be safe?
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I stopped reading your drivel and denialism right here. If I get super bored, maybe I’ll check out the rest later. But I doubt it. Laughable shit, here. Talk about head in the fucking sand.
I said I don’t know and neither do you. That’s laughable? You have no idea what happened other than what your choice of media indoctrinated you with.
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Here you go, you dumbfucks can read the actual memo behind the January 6th plan. JFC. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html
The motherfucker got disbarred as a result. https://statesunited.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Eastman-Decision.pdf
Meanwhile Chesebro pleaded guilty in Georgia in the RICO case. Which is still in effect. https://apnews.com/article/georgia-election-indictment-trump-chesebro-675a22ff0004de097be31021cf949080
Yeah, it was an inside job. Inside the fucking White House.
Left wing fake news and weaponization of the court system/DOJ
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If Trump instructed his followers to be peaceful, and he's the leader you believe him to be - then why would the Capitol need to be defended?
If the people causing the trouble are all agent provacateurs - why is Trump indicating he will pardon them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk
He knew the Capitol needed to be defended because he knew Pelosi was orchestrating the fake insurrection.
Trump will only pardon the true MAGA breachers
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I guess all the criminal trials and convictions, with a few acquittals, didn't prove what happened.
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He knew the Capitol needed to be defended because he knew Pelosi was orchestrating the fake insurrection.
Trump will only pardon the true MAGA breachers
The true MAGA breachers - e.g. people who...
1) Ignored Trump's directives (if you ignore Trump, are you really MAGA?)
2) Are so stupid they could be tricked by Nancy Pelosi into bashing cops skulls
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The true MAGA breachers - e.g. people who...
1) Ignored Trump's directives (if you ignore Trump, are you really MAGA?)
2) Are so stupid they could be tricked by Nancy Pelosi into bashing cops skulls
Biden set the precedent for pardoning addled two-bit criminals, I guess this is just the America we live in these days.
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I have no fucking idea why Trump told Gen Milley, among others, to make it safe.
Maybe, from a few months before the election he gets taken to a bunker. ....
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Secret Service agents rushed President Donald Trump to a White House bunker on Friday night as hundreds of protesters gathered outside the executive mansion, some of them throwing rocks and tugging at police barricades."
And then, oh look. Riot gear.
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Cities across the country were putting up with what they and the media were calling "mostly peaceful protests" while buildings were burning, businesses were being destroyed and 3 dozen people died. Fortunately, it was all for a good cause so many people arrested were treated lightly.
2 lawyers tossed a molotov cocktail into a police car. The prosecutors requested 2 years and the judge cut it to a little over half of that for 1 of the lawyers. The other lawyer got 1 year and a day.
Apparently their text messages must have shown that they showed no ill will.
"“I hope they burn everything down,” Rahman told Mattis in a message hours before protests formed. “Need to burn all the police stations down… probably all the courts too.”
When Rahman joined protesters that night, she wrote to Mattis: “Throwing bottles and tear gas … lit some fires but were put out … fireworks goin and Molotovs rollin.”
With the backdrop and intelligence beginning in Dec of 2020 that there could be violence on Jan 6 Trump told people to make it safe. The President has more access to intelligence than anyone in the country.
John Sullivan, a self proclaimed BLM activist, was inside the Capitol with someone else.
""I brought my megaphone to instigate s---," Sullivan said in footage played for jurors, in which he bragged that he'd sought to "make those Trump supporters f--- s--- up."
There were more than Trump supporters on Jan6 and I doubt if there were only the 2 BLM supporters that day.
Subordinates were told to make Jan 6 safe. It wasn't done. Pelosi, Schumer and Hoyer were told that the Guard was moving. It wasn't until a couple of hours later that the directive to move even got to the Guard.
Since then, Trump has been the victim of 1 assassination attempt that just missed. A guy had a rifle pointed at Trump. Iran is said to have assassination plans for Trump.
NYC would throw him behind bars for the rest of his life, if they could, over misdemeanor charges.
I have no idea, other than he was right, why he would have said to make it safe.
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I said I don’t know and neither do you. That’s laughable? You have no idea what happened other than what your choice of media indoctrinated you with.
Oh for fuck’s sake.
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Hey Custard, what’s your take on the moon landing? Was Vietnam really started over a lost bet?
At first I was kidding when I posted these questions. Now I’m thinking I actually might like them answered.
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I don’t ever want to hear Custard refer to himself as an objective voice again. He’s living in fantasyland if he thinks what happened on 1/6 is some sort of convoluted mystery.
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It’s a complicated situation. Delusional fantasyland is thinking it’s cut and dried. Of course the news you consume wants you to think it was as simple as Trump whipping some MAGA people into a frenzy and they then attacked the Capitol. That’s not what happened at all. A lot of different interests were represented amongst the people that marched on and ultimately breached the Capitol.
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It's really not that complicated. At all.
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Stop watching whatever it is Ben Shapiro peddles for news these days.
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What were some of the "many different interests" represented that day? JFC I can't believe I'm having this conversation.
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Let me guess, the teachers’ union, BLM and agent provocateurs made up much of the protestors? This is the most delusional conversation I’ve engaged in in a while. PAMan’s argument that Justin Fields “will never be an NFL quarterback” is better argued.
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Love the fake outrage. Discrediting anything Custard says is what’s truly outrageous. To think there was absolutely nothing suspicious with Jan 6th or the elections is what is utterly outrageous…
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Some people have trouble processing the information they read.
Loudermilk is effectively Trump's defense attorney.
Here's a pageful of transcripts that Loudermilk just released for you to read. NBC may have a link for you.
I'm 2/3 of the way thru the Engel transcript. It's 160 pages. Good luck.
He described Trump as being frustrated in the SUV. Engel is informed of what the driver had previously testified to. The driver described Trump as a little more than frustrated, using words like agitated.
Engel mentions nothing of any altercation.
When the committee brings up the testimony of the driver to Engel, not once does the committee mention an altercation being mentioned by the driver.
The Jan6 committee didn't release these and Loudermilk preferred not to. But here we are.
It's not always what you're told. Sometimes it's what you're not told.
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https://cha.house.gov/press-releases?ID=D6041DAC-1CEE-4CFB-AD26-BC4E5E3B6F63
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Speaking of what we're told vs not told.
The WSJ apparently is saying that Biden hasn't exactly been the person that we've been told he is by the people who have seen him all the time these past few years.
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Speaking of what we're told vs not told.
The WSJ apparently is saying that Biden hasn't exactly been the person that we've been told he is by the people who have seen him all the time these past few years.
Exactly. And if he’s not making decisions as President, who exactly is?!
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"Former Trump aides Olivia Troye and Alyssa Farah Griffin [have said] Ornato has a history of lying for Trump."
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"Former Trump aides Olivia Troye and Alyssa Farah Griffin [have said] Ornato has a history of lying for Trump."
Good for them. 😂😂
How about the driver ? Is he a liar too ? Lol
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Let me guess, the teachers’ union, BLM and agent provocateurs made up much of the protestors? This is the most delusional conversation I’ve engaged in in a while. PAMan’s argument that Justin Fields “will never be an NFL quarterback” is better argued.
So you think it was a homogenous group of MAGA supporters acting out Trump’s will?
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Exactly. And if he’s not making decisions as President, who exactly is?!
Currently, that would be Elon Musk.
“This is ridiculous,” Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) said of the sudden challenge of negotiating with multiple GOP leaders. “We negotiated it and they walked away from it because a shadow president billionaire, who doesn’t care where his rent check is going to come from or where his Social Security check is going to come from, suddenly decided he wants to shut down the government.”
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Good for them. 😂😂
How about the driver ? Is he a liar too ? Lol
Calling someone a liar is over the top. People are known to prevaricate as part of their job all of the time.
Cassidy Hutchinson said her Trump land lawyer told her not to commit perjury, but also said 'I don't recall' is not perjury.
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Currently, that would be Elon Musk.
“This is ridiculous,” Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) said of the sudden challenge of negotiating with multiple GOP leaders. “We negotiated it and they walked away from it because a shadow president billionaire, who doesn’t care where his rent check is going to come from or where his Social Security check is going to come from, suddenly decided he wants to shut down the government.”
It’s more nuanced than that, of course.
https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/1869937297422233759?s=46
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Biden set the precedent for pardoning addled two-bit criminals, I guess this is just the America we live in these days.
Roger Stone was pardoned well before Hunter Biden
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it was as simple as Trump whipping some MAGA people into a frenzy and they then attacked the Capitol.
yup
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Exactly. And if he’s not making decisions as President, who exactly is?!
Elon Musk
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Thank the gods Lord Elon allegedly saved us from Congress allowing a 3.8% a COLA, their first since 1992.
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Calling someone a liar is over the top. People are known to prevaricate as part of their job all of the time.
Cassidy Hutchinson said her Trump land lawyer told her not to commit perjury, but also said 'I don't recall' is not perjury.
"I don't recall" is not n3cessarily perjury.
I don't recall is stating that you don't recall something.
You hopefully will not be told by an attorney to respond with "I might have" instead of "I don't recall" when under oath and you're not certain about the answer.
"According to the transcript, Dr. Fauci said “I don’t recall” 174 times, including when asked about emails that he sent, interviews that he gave, and other important documents."
https://www.wafb.com/2022/12/05/louisiana-missouri-release-full-fauci-deposition-transcript/
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I wonder how Fauci got into a discussion about Jan 6 and discrepancies between the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's allies in the SS?
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I wonder how Fauci got into a discussion about Jan 6 and discrepancies between the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's allies in the SS?
You posted "Cassidy Hutchinson said her Trump land lawyer told her not to commit perjury, but also said 'I don't recall' is not perjury."
If Fauci can say "I don't recall" 174 times maybe you can explain what you meant about the Trump land lawyer.
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yup
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Love the fake outrage. Discrediting anything Custard says is what’s truly outrageous. To think there was absolutely nothing suspicious with Jan 6th or the elections is what is utterly outrageous…
Thinking “other things were afoot” other than a mob inspired by Trump’s big election LIE tried to intimidate Congress into changing the outcome of an election is complete buffoonery and willfully ignorant. You complain all the time about bias. This is the most clear example of bias probably ever voiced here. 1/6 wasn’t some inside job by the Democrats and it wasn’t some largely unknowable event. That’s fucking absurd.
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Love the fake outrage. Discrediting anything Custard says is what’s truly outrageous. To think there was absolutely nothing suspicious with Jan 6th or the elections is what is utterly outrageous…
Suspicious how? Pelosi planned it? I feel very comfortable in saying if Pelosi or Mike Pence had been caught that day there’s a very real chance they would’ve been killed. What do you think happened? And don’t give me some weak sauce bullshit like “I don’t know, and neither do you!” bullshit.
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We still have disphits who think the 2020 election was fixed. What fucking morons. If Democrats are so good at fixing elections, why did Kamala get her ass kicked so badly?
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Suspicious how? Pelosi planned it? I feel very comfortable in saying if Pelosi or Mike Pence had been caught that day there’s a very real chance they would’ve been killed. What do you think happened? And don’t give me some weak sauce bullshit like “I don’t know, and neither do you!” bullshit.
It’s been went over numerous times on here. Reread it instead of burying your head in the sand. To think there weren’t some bad actors and inside shit going on is ludicrous. You REALLY think our government doesn’t have anterior motives?! You’re fucking delusional…
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We still have disphits who think the 2020 election was fixed. What fucking morons. If Democrats are so good at fixing elections, why did Kamala get her ass kicked so badly?
I’d tell you but you’d call me sexist, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and many other “pronouns” I don’t go by…
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It’s been went over numerous times on here. Reread it instead of burying your head in the sand. To think there weren’t some bad actors and inside shit going on is ludicrous. You REALLY think our government doesn’t have anterior motives?! You’re fucking delusional…
We know it was an inside job... the call is coming from inside the White House!
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It’s been went over numerous times on here. Reread it instead of burying your head in the sand. To think there weren’t some bad actors and inside shit going on is ludicrous. You REALLY think our government doesn’t have anterior motives?! You’re fucking delusional…
Duh, everyone knows it was Antifa.
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The staffer for the unofficial Native American put the wrong images in the post. Lol
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Should have been .....
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Duh, everyone knows it was Antifa.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that theory. Fucking delusional people. I don’t ever want to hear about being “biased” again. No one with a functioning brain thinks 1/6 was so nefarious left-wing plot.
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We still have disphits who think the 2020 election was fixed. What fucking morons. If Democrats are so good at fixing elections, why did Kamala get her ass kicked so badly?
None of you Alex Jones bots going to answer this?
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Speaking of what we're told vs not told.
The WSJ apparently is saying that Biden hasn't exactly been the person that we've been told he is by the people who have seen him all the time these past few years.
Well that’s a pretty open ended statement? Who has he been?
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So you think it was a homogenous group of MAGA supporters acting out Trump’s will?
Almost exclusively.
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You REALLY think our government doesn’t have anterior motives?! You’re fucking delusional…
I smell some posterior motives
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I smell some posterior motives
Hahaha, “ulterior” fucking autocorrect got me. Good catch! You still are sharp as a tack!
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So you think it was a homogenous group of MAGA supporters acting out Trump’s will?
I’m sure there were some CIs there, it’s tremendously unlikely they were acting as agent provocateurs. I suppose there were some people there for shits and giggles; but the overwhelming majority of people there thought they were being patriots and trying to “right a wrong.” All due to Trump’s big lie. It’s not a coincidence they were there the day the elections results were being formalized. He fucking stood in front of them and told them “they (and Mike Pence) needed to the do right thing.” I mean Jesus, you’d have to be a cultist to not understand how this went down. You might not be a Trump cultist, but you are definitely in the anti-left/anti-govt cult. Are you a militiaman by chance?
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Trump had those people literally thinking they were saving their country. The most die-hard MAGA conspiracy theorists were there. I gave a couple of them rides home from O’Hare.
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Cue snarky Jobu comment.
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Hahaha, “ulterior” fucking autocorrect got me. Good catch! You still are sharp as a tack!
No. Posterior. You pull all this shit out of your posterior.
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No. Posterior. You pull all this shit out of your posterior.
Good one lol…
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Good one lol…
your posterior is hard to miss....
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your posterior is hard to miss....
I knew you were a creep…
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I knew you were a creep…
Mt Everest is hard to miss doesn't mean I'm a creep
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Looking for AOTC cred:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/29/joe-biden-twists-his-ankle-after-slipping-while-playing-with-dog
FAKE NEWS !!!!!!!!!!
"Biden will be the oldest person to assume the American presidency when he is sworn in next year and his health is likely to be watched closely by allies and opponents alike."
The allies may have watched closely but that's about as far as it went. And the allies apparently found it preferential for Joe to stay in office rather than let Harris be the 1st DEI President.
Not exactly a glowing endorsement for Harris but Custard, once again, AOTC.
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Biden was old and potentially fragile when he took office? Who knew?
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Biden was old and potentially fragile when he took office? Who knew?
As recently as early summer he was “sharp as a tack”
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https://www.the-sun.com/news/13258265/joe-biden-sleeping-jimmy-carter-funeral/
Probably bored
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I don’t blame him, he and Jimmy are damn near the same age.
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Who fantasized more that it was Donald's funeral today? Former illegal immigrant Third Lady-Elect Melania Trump or Shady JD Vance?
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Who fantasized more that it was Donald's funeral today? Former illegal immigrant Third Lady-Elect Melania Trump or Shady JD Vance?
Maybe Mrs. Pence.
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I don’t blame him, he and Jimmy are damn near the same age.
Page? Happy 81st to the most mysterious guitar legend in rock and roll history!
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Fucking Biden....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/potato-chip-prices-are-soaring-due-to-an-unexpected-factor-it-s-not-sustainable/ar-AA1zktQf
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Fucking Biden....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/potato-chip-prices-are-soaring-due-to-an-unexpected-factor-it-s-not-sustainable/ar-AA1zktQf
Climate change - good for your health!
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https://youtu.be/AbjEXw6Xikg
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Excellent contribution from our board “moderate,” Custard.
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https://youtu.be/AbjEXw6Xikg
Shellenberger is crazier than Michael Saylor
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Conspiracy theory friendly, uses junk science to debunk climate change, anti-gender affirming care. Sounds right down Custard’s alley.
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Conspiracy theory friendly, uses junk science to debunk climate change, anti-gender affirming care. Sounds right down Custard’s alley.
Yeah the censorship industrial complex, insane gender ideology, progressive bullshit, etc pushed me farther “right” than I ever thought I’d be. Red-pilled, so to speak. You can see what it’s done to PAMan, too.
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Yeah the censorship industrial complex, insane gender ideology, progressive bullshit, etc pushed me farther “right” than I ever thought I’d be. Red-pilled, so to speak. You can see what it’s done to PAMan, too.
I just know who is going to have to clean up this mess. It will not be The Progressives....
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PAMan is a neocon. He’s not even a centrist, let alone a liberal. Calling him a Democrat seems a huge stretch. He too often seems perfectly at home with dictators as long as he likes the cut of their jib.
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Yeah the censorship industrial complex, insane gender ideology, progressive bullshit, etc pushed me farther “right” than I ever thought I’d be. Red-pilled, so to speak. You can see what it’s done to PAMan, too.
You’re mad about mostly the wrong things. Who gives a fuck about gender ideology. It’s all culture war bullshit. I’m all about freedom of speech, but pretty much no one is going to jail for expressing their opinions. Every opinion you could want is being expressed on the Internet.
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PAMan is a neocon. He’s not even a centrist, let alone a liberal. Calling him a Democrat seems a huge stretch. He too often seems perfectly at home with dictators as long as he likes the cut of their jib.
Oh bullshit. I am not a fucking loser Progressive commie like you are because that shit doesn't work.
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You’re mad about mostly the wrong things. Who gives a fuck about gender ideology. It’s all culture war bullshit. I’m all about freedom of speech, but pretty much no one is going to jail for expressing their opinions. Every opinion you could want is being expressed on the Internet.
Except the COVID deniers were not allowed on The Twotter or something. Even though it is a private company to which the 1st Amendment does not apply. But we can now yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theater. If only movie theaters were crowded.
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Oh bullshit. I am not a fucking loser Progressive commie like you are because that shit doesn't work.
This you?
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMmwLx9c/IMG-0631.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You’ve clearly expressed your love for might makes right, interventionism, deporting and cheerlead the deaths of those who see things differently from you. How is that the profile of a “democracy lover?”
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You’re mad about mostly the wrong things. Who gives a fuck about gender ideology. It’s all culture war bullshit. I’m all about freedom of speech, but pretty much no one is going to jail for expressing their opinions. Every opinion you could want is being expressed on the Internet.
It goes way beyond culture war bullshit.
When we’ve come to a point where we allow teenagers to elect to have elective irreversible surgeries and therapies without the consent of their parents, it is insanity.
And the public should in no way, shape, or form be paying for anything transgender related. Gender dysphoria is literally defined as a mental illness, and instead of treating it, there’s been this huge push to enable it and celebrate it. Gender affirming care. LOL. It’s a slippery slope.
Men playing against women in sports undoes decades of progress for women. It’s a safety concern. Staffing all levels of military and other critical elements of government with people who don’t know if they are a boy or a girl is concerning.
Somehow the Democrat party went from being the party of the working class with common sense fiscal and social stance to the party of elites, academics, and people dependent on the government for income/employment, kowtowing to radical left wing nonsense. Can’t even really rely on minorities (who’ve been coddled the most) the same way they used to
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It goes way beyond culture war bullshit.
When we’ve come to a point where we allow teenagers to elect to have elective irreversible surgeries and therapies without the consent of their parents, it is insanity.
And the public should in no way, shape, or form be paying for anything transgender related. Gender dysphoria is literally defined as a mental illness, and instead of treating it, there’s been this huge push to enable it and celebrate it. Gender affirming care. LOL. It’s a slippery slope.
Men playing against women in sports undoes decades of progress for women. It’s a safety concern. Staffing all levels of military and other critical elements of government with people who don’t know if they are a boy or a girl is concerning.
Somehow the Democrat party went from being the party of the working class with common sense fiscal and social stance to the party of elites, academics, and people dependent on the government for income/employment, kowtowing to radical left wing nonsense. Can’t even really rely on minorities (who’ve been coddled the most) the same way they used to
yawn
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It goes way beyond culture war bullshit.
When we’ve come to a point where we allow teenagers to elect to have elective irreversible surgeries and therapies without the consent of their parents, it is insanity.
And the public should in no way, shape, or form be paying for anything transgender related. Gender dysphoria is literally defined as a mental illness, and instead of treating it, there’s been this huge push to enable it and celebrate it. Gender affirming care. LOL. It’s a slippery slope.
Men playing against women in sports undoes decades of progress for women. It’s a safety concern. Staffing all levels of military and other critical elements of government with people who don’t know if they are a boy or a girl is concerning.
Somehow the Democrat party went from being the party of the working class with common sense fiscal and social stance to the party of elites, academics, and people dependent on the government for income/employment, kowtowing to radical left wing nonsense. Can’t even really rely on minorities (who’ve been coddled the most) the same way they used to
Are you going to tell me that kids are going to school and getting their dicks cut off? Because I feel like you're gonna do that.
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This you?
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Yes and no
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You’ve clearly expressed your love for might makes right, interventionism, deporting and cheerlead the deaths of those who see things differently from you. How is that the profile of a “democracy lover?”
Because they lose elections and are commie bastards.
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Are you going to tell me that kids are going to school and getting their dicks cut off? Because I feel like you're gonna do that.
He’s definitely gonna do that. And he’ll probably tell you kids are shitting in litter boxes at school. Next problem he wants to solve, The Boogeyman.
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Are you going to tell me that kids are going to school and getting their dicks cut off? Because I feel like you're gonna do that.
he is very upset about kids going to school and getting their dicks cut off. It really strikes a chord with him, and I think it's A Minor
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Yes and no
Sounds exactly like you to me.
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he is very upset about kids going to school and getting their dicks cut off. It really strikes a chord with him, and I think it's A Minor
Can’t blame him. A Minor is a beautiful chord. Especially nice on acoustic guitar.
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Sounds exactly like you to me.
And we can add this to the Tempo is wrong thread
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And we can ad this to the Tempo is wrong thread
You would deport (or worse) every Palestine sympathizer if you could. You are not a “democracy lover.”
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You would deport (or worse) every Palestine sympathizer if you could. You are not a “democracy lover.”
They are supporting terrorism and, thus, a security threat to the United States. Out the door!
And we should remove all reproductive organs before so doing
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Can’t blame him. A Minor is a beautiful chord. Especially nice on acoustic guitar.
Always knew you were not like us
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Always knew you were not like us
What do you have against Stairway to Heaven, House of the Rising Sun, and While My Guitar Gently Weeps?!
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What do you have against Stairway to Heaven, House of the Rising Sun, and While My Guitar Gently Weeps?!
I celebrate the entire catalogue! But you gotta stay up with the current music - Mustard's on the beat
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No one is getting their dicks cut off at school. Never know though, hope Lil Tempo gets gender affirming care he needs if he decides to cut his dick off when he’s 13.
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I’ll put it in a jar and save it as a memento!
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I’ll put it in a jar and save it as a memento!
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He’s definitely gonna do that. And he’ll probably tell you kids are shitting in litter boxes at school. Next problem he wants to solve, The Boogeyman.
Don't forget tampons in boy's bathrooms, at least where they still have gender sex distinct bathrooms.
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Because they lose elections and are commie bastards.
The left should own the word commie. Communism, communal, community, etc. all come from the same root word for common; as in common, everyday people with common interests.
Woke too. A community of awake people sounds like a worthy goal.
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Oh man is PAMan going to have fun with that one!
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Don't forget tampons in boy's bathrooms, at least where they still have gender sex distinct bathrooms.
Like the Illini Ice Arena "Men's" Room!
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The left should own the word commie. Communism, communal, community, etc. all come from the same root word for common; as in common, everyday people with common interests.
Woke too. A community of awake people sounds like a worthy goal.
Uhhh.... No
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Oh man is PAMan going to have fun with that one!
Yeah, everything the commies touch is so successful.
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Yeah, everything the commies touch is so successful.
Right. They were about the community and common interests the same way Nazis were socialists.
Laissez faire capitalism has failed everywhere it has been tried. Free markets only work in in mixed economy Social Democracies.
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Right. They were about the community and common interests the same way Nazis were socialists.
Laissez faire capitalism has failed everywhere it has been tried. Free markets only work in in mixed economy Social Democracies.
way too wonky.
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way too wonky.
Wonkyness worked with the silent, generation and older boomer yuppies.
My original point stands that the left should embrace being awake and the community/ common interests both in concept and practice.
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Wonkyness worked with the silent, generation and older boomer yuppies.
My original point stands that the left should embrace being awake and the community/ common interests both in concept and practice.
Problem with the woke movement is that instead of leaning into wokeness being an awareness of societal problems and needs of others, it was quickly co-opted by radicals that used perceived moral high ground as a way to advance radical (and radically unpopular) leftist ideologies and shout down/cancel anyone who dared to stand up to them. And that’s part of why Republicans now have control of all three branches of government and are dismantling a lot of the woke movement’s sacred cows.
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Problem with the woke movement is that instead of leaning into wokeness being an awareness of societal problems and needs of others, it was quickly co-opted by radicals that used perceived moral high ground as a way to advance radical (and radically unpopular) leftist ideologies and shout down/cancel anyone who dared to stand up to them. And that’s part of why Republicans now have control of all three branches of government and are dismantling a lot of the woke movement’s sacred cows.
The FAA, IRS, National Park system, CDC, NIH, NSSA - "Woke movement's sacred cows"
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The FAA, IRS, National Park system, CDC, NIH, NSSA - "Woke movement's sacred cows"
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All I have to say is this.
Illini Basketball 2024-25
Biden Adminstration - 13-5
Trump Administration - 4-6
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Good luck with beating the Ca, Joe.
Hopefully the drugs get the job done but don't interfere with whatever drugs you were given to come across as capable of completing a thought.
Maybe during this time you could try to tell the Dem voters that the party will choose which useful idiot they want in the White House.
I assume the members of your administration and inner circle will all be coming forward to explain to the American people what their respective roles were in hiding your physical, but more importantly, your mental health.
Who were the people who made the decisions ? Who signed the pardons ? Who had the nuclear codes ? Who decided to open our borders ? Who decided to open Ukraine's border ? Who made the wrong decisions in Kabul ? Who decided to let the China spy balloon travel across the country ?
Who decided that you were the person to be propped up for a 2nd term ?
People can agree and disagree with the decisions of the President when they know who the decision maker is. Trump gets criticized every day and the criticisms are directed at him. Who gets the criticism in your administration ? Name all of them Joe.
We had no President, Joe. That is a threat to democracy.
Unfortunately "I, I, I, I ........... don't remember" will be ok. Most of the country understands. But give it a whirl, Joe. And good luck.
PS: and maybe think about apologizing to Michael Flynn for suggesting a Logan Act violation after John Brennan told you guys about Hillary's plan to undermine Trump, which put a dagger in US-Russia relations. You guys did try to destroy him.
And maybe explain Comey's roles in in things. He's too busy to do that while trying to get Trump assassinated to sell his book.
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Trump assassination "attempts" were false flag operations. Brilliantly executed, to use a phrase, too!
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Good luck with beating the Ca, Joe.
Hopefully the drugs get the job done but don't interfere with whatever drugs you were given to come across as capable of completing a thought.
A solid lesson in "Say good luck without meaning it".
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Trump assassination "attempts" were false flag operations. Brilliantly executed, to use a phrase, too!
Good luck recovering from that ear injury. Rather unfortunate that the bullet did not hit your brain and perhaps destroy that part of your brain that makes you such a fucking moron. Maybe you will take some lesson from this incredible stroke of luck and renew your perspective on life and not be such an asswipe.
Did I do that right, Mn? Is that how we do it? Because before I just said...
"What the fuck, what kind of asshole takes a shot at the President. Extraordinarily lucky he didn't get killed, thank god it seems superficial and he'll be ok, but that asshole killed someone else, let that jackass kid rot in hell". I guess that's not how we are supposed to do things. We are instead supposed to wish the worst sort of ill will on people. Good to know.
Asshole.
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A solid lesson in "Say good luck without meaning it".
Point is, if we have sympathy for dying Biden we can't to attack him with our irrelevant distraction nonsense.
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Point is, if we have sympathy for dying Biden we can't to attack him with our irrelevant distraction nonsense.
it's not like Biden is Sean Higgins or Sean May.
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“What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???” the president’s son Donald Trump Jr. wrote on X, taking a swipe at the former first lady’s doctoral degree in education. (There is also no such thing as “stage five” cancer.)
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Let's hear Mn's snarky take down of Scott Adams...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/scott-adams-dilbert-creator-says-he-has-same-prostate-cancer-as-joe-biden/ar-AA1F4w09?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ad2247e232dd4df6f92fc57b518d155f&ei=24
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Sorry, but Joe's diagnosis shouldn't mean that what has come out from the Tapper/Thompson book or, more importantly, the audio from the Hur interview be dismissed.
The Hur interview was from the fall of 2023.
Bernie Sanders says the Democratic Party is a threat to democracy over the issue of primaries.
In 2024 the Democratic Party had no primary while we were told that Joe just had a bad night at the debate.
He also had a bad couple of days months earlier that were covered up and Hur was roundly criticized by those who interacted with Joe on a routine basis for raising a red flag in his report.
Merrick Garland's hiding of the audio allowed the Democrats to push Joe for 2024.
The left has argued that Trump is a threat to democracy and is putting us into a constitutional crisis.
Who ran the shadow government ?
Who ran the cover-up ?
Joe's plate is full and bone cancers can be painful, but that by no means should prevent administration members from answering questions under oath about who ran the shadow government, not since the debate, but for a year and a half or longer.
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I'd take Joe dying of cancer over this. But with ditching the Progressive Scum on his staff that screwed up the border, guys swimming with girls in college swim meets, etc.
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Other than Ron Klain, he names the wrong people.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/05/20/biden-book-reviews-mental-acuity-00357152
Let Joe be, he's busy, and people can form their own opinions of Dr Jill.
But
Merrick Garland
Kamala Harris
Jake Sullivan
Antony Blinken
Alejandro Mayorkas
Lloyd Austin
Avril Haines
and others are the people who need to answer some questions.
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Lol
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Says the guy who thinks Democratic primaries are rigged. Lol
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Who ran the shadow government under Reagan?! Where are James Baker, George HW Bush, Michael Deaver, and Edwin Meese? I need answers!
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Lol
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Says the guy who thinks Democratic primaries are rigged. Lol
To a degree, they have been.
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To a degree, they have been.
And the 2023 Hur audio is audio of the man that the Dems would have had as their 2024 nominee if the debate hadn't happened.
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Merrick Garland has questions to answer but they aren't about Joe Biden....
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Who ran the shadow government under Reagan?! Where are James Baker, George HW Bush, Michael Deaver, and Edwin Meese? I need answers!
Good points, but I would argue that the Democratic Party and its leaders lost a lot of credibility with voters by standing by Biden when doing so denied the reality that the American people sensed and often saw with their own eyes. There needs to be an accounting and a reckoning - and probably a housecleaning - in order to move on, which I know you would support. Failing to do so will make it harder for Democrats to talk convincingly about the Trump elephant in the room.
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Other than Ron Klain, he names the wrong people.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/05/20/biden-book-reviews-mental-acuity-00357152
Let Joe be, he's busy, and people can form their own opinions of Dr Jill.
But
Merrick Garland
Kamala Harris
Jake Sullivan
Antony Blinken
Alejandro Mayorkas
Lloyd Austin
Avril Haines
and others are the people who need to answer some questions.
BDS
He's out of office. Be careful - if you are successful in increasing the standards, we'll get to take a very close look at Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV
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Who ran the shadow government under Reagan?! Where are James Baker, George HW Bush, Michael Deaver, and Edwin Meese? I need answers!
Don't care about that either.
Only care about the current fuckups. Which are legendary.
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Good points, but I would argue that the Democratic Party and its leaders lost a lot of credibility with voters by standing by Biden when doing so denied the reality that the American people sensed and often saw with their own eyes. There needs to be an accounting and a reckoning - and probably a housecleaning - in order to move on, which I know you would support. Failing to do so will make it harder for Democrats to talk convincingly about the Trump elephant in the room.
Truth.
Mn is worse than my wife. She keeps giving more evidence to convince me of something I already agree with.
Pretty much everyone knows that Biden was falling apart, and are pissed he wasn't pushed out either voluntarily or via a primary - or not shut down in 2020, all that had to happen in 2020 was Jim Clyburne not endorsing the guy. But Mn feels this odd need to keep pressing this issue to distract from the fact that Biden is now out and Trump is following in his demented footsteps, but you know, Trump is to to Mn and Justin Fields is to Tempo, so he can't admit Trump is a senile old clown.
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lol - great lines in Original Sin trashing Kamala, key line "they didn't think she was genuinely a very nice person"
good luck running for Governor of California Kamala. I can't believe that pundits are actually giving any play or credence to that. She sux. Hope she enters the primary and gets destroyed. The best part will be when Gavin reads the tea leaves and doesn't endorse her.
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Good luck with beating the Ca, Joe.
Hopefully the drugs get the job done but don't interfere with whatever drugs you were given to come across as capable of completing a thought.
Maybe during this time you could try to tell the Dem voters that the party will choose which useful idiot they want in the White House.
I assume the members of your administration and inner circle will all be coming forward to explain to the American people what their respective roles were in hiding your physical, but more importantly, your mental health.
Who were the people who made the decisions ? Who signed the pardons ? Who had the nuclear codes ? Who decided to open our borders ? Who decided to open Ukraine's border ? Who made the wrong decisions in Kabul ? Who decided to let the China spy balloon travel across the country ?
Who decided that you were the person to be propped up for a 2nd term ?
People can agree and disagree with the decisions of the President when they know who the decision maker is. Trump gets criticized every day and the criticisms are directed at him. Who gets the criticism in your administration ? Name all of them Joe.
We had no President, Joe. That is a threat to democracy.
Unfortunately "I, I, I, I ........... don't remember" will be ok. Most of the country understands. But give it a whirl, Joe. And good luck.
PS: and maybe think about apologizing to Michael Flynn for suggesting a Logan Act violation after John Brennan told you guys about Hillary's plan to undermine Trump, which put a dagger in US-Russia relations. You guys did try to destroy him.
And maybe explain Comey's roles in in things. He's too busy to do that while trying to get Trump assassinated to sell his book.
Russia is a security threat. Carry on.