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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Beach Bum on October 22, 2024, 12:09:21 PM
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Opening tip tonight. Also means college ain't far behind.
TSJ goes tonight, hope he gets some PT.
Bulls don't seem to be a lot better and can't see them getting a top 6 seed. Rinse and repeat with them.
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I'm not ready for the NBA yet. Especially, those shithead Lakers.
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TSJ goes tonight, hope he gets some PT.
DNP so far.
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The NBA is now an absolute garbage product
Watching 33% 3 point shooters jacking up 40 3's per game fucking sucks
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The NBA is now an absolute garbage product
Watching 33% 3 point shooters jacking up 40 3's per game fucking sucks
+1
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The NBA is now an absolute garbage product
Watching 33% 3 point shooters jacking up 40 3's per game fucking sucks
There are a handful of teams that can be really fun to watch. But a lot of it can be bad with exactly what you're saying.
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I love every year when the NBA starts up....ONLY because the college/pro game isn't far behind.
I also love how each diehard current NBA fans love to argue who's best....it is hilarious to compare most of the current players vs the older NBA guys going back to Bird/Magic (who made the NBA) imo.
Going further back than that not to exclude a personal preference of anyone. Back to the ABA-NBA merger days, the great players that came over from the defunct league and help establish the play of today. These current guys can't hold up to the older players, except for athleticism across the board and size on the court at one time.
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The guys who knew how to play basketball were Cousy, Jerry West, Hondo, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russel ...
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New season...and the Bulls still suck. 😆
Is that THT I saw on the Bulls roster? So he and Ayo are finally teammates, just like it should have been six years ago. No family drama this time around I guess.
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New season...and the Bulls still suck. 😆
Is that THT I saw on the Bulls roster? So he and Ayo are finally teammates, just like it should have been six years ago. No family drama this time around I guess.
Yeah funny stuff. And bulls start off right where they left off.
I really don't like this roster makeup.
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Wow who could have seen that coming?
The city of low expectations
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TSJ scores his first career NBA points against the sorry ass Bulls fittingly enough.
https://x.com/Timberwolves/status/1854724755766534552
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Ayo with a triple double vs the Spurs
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Hell yeah Ayo!
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Zach Lavine traded to the Kings. Which means he's reunited with Demar Derozan. Because that combination worked so well here 🤣
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TSJ with his first double digit game in the NBA. Congrats bro
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The team was shorthanded and TSJ got 28 minutes and a good stat line. 13 points, 6 rebounds (3-3) and 1 assist. 👍
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Hes been injured most of the year
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Hes been injured most of the year
So has your mom
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So has your mom
He's spent some time in the minor leagues too, or whatever they call it.
Just like your Mom.
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He's spent some time in the minor leagues too, or whatever they call it.
Just like your Mom.
Well, yeah. My mom had to spend time in the minors, before she got to the majors and made the specimen that is Jobu!
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TSJ with 17 points (7-10), 10 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal in 29 minutes in an OT win over OK.
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T-Wolves did it with their bench last night. Starters were mostly net negative. That's impressive vs OKC. First time in NBA history that a team down 20 entering the 4th came back to beat a +800% team on the road. Who knew? Western Conference playoffs are going to be wild. Oh, and fuck the Lakers!
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Lakers Mavs tonight. Can't wait. Oh yeah. Illini too.
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Lakers Mavs tonight. Can't wait. Oh yeah. Illini too.
Luka looks weird wearing the Lakers color, and I didn't think it was possible but he also looks slower.
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TSJ with 17 points (7-10), 10 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal in 29 minutes in an OT win over OK.
Hadn't seen this before: Stones man, Cold blooded way back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR6rcigMxFI
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The NBA is now an absolute garbage product
Watching 33% 3 point shooters jacking up 40 3's per game fucking sucks
The Bulls had a game earlier this year in which there were 108 attempted 3s. 108…
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The Bulls had a game earlier this year in which there were 108 attempted 3s. 108…
God damn!
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I keep seeing Custard in the quote text and think it’s a post I made while blacked out or something.
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TSJ - 17-5-4 last night in the start and in the win.
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I keep seeing Custard in the quote text and think it’s a post I made while blacked out or something.
So being blacked out is a regular thing for you is what you’re saying?!
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Mavs got some bad mojo going on....first the trade, then the injury, then the ticket price 8% increases, now Irving done for the year....WOW, that is one helluva black cloud going on there.
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holy fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awSra656t_E
the sanford and son reference from King really makes it even better lmao
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Yes, holy fuck! That's so unbelievable!
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Amazing finish. LeFlop with the turnover, and then the winning shot goes over his head. Perfect.
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Nice finish but wtf was everybody celebrating for with 6 sec to go.
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Nice finish but wtf was everybody celebrating for with 6 sec to go.
Right?
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Right?
We know better. 6 seconds is an eternity. 🤣🤣
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KJ officially in the draft! No surprise, but good article. The last sentence is telling to me as far as BU and Euro preference.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44669227/illinois-star-freshman-kasparas-jakucionis-enter-nba-draft
"The IQ level in the Euroleague is incredible". BU loves the high IQ, and no not every player has it.
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We watched KJ throw the ball all over the floor this year. Some good and some not so much so.
NCAA stats lists 350 players in their assist/turnover category. KJ came in at 319th.
He had 6 turnovers in each of his last 4 games.
He's young, I'd like to see him stay, but he's gone.
KJ and Tomi are good but I'm not convinced about the high IQ stuff coming from the guy who also said we have elite shooters and were FF caliber.
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We watched KJ throw the ball all over the floor this year. Some good and some not so much so.
NCAA stats lists 350 players in their assist/turnover category. KJ came in at 319th.
He had 6 turnovers in each of his last 4 games.
He's young, I'd like to see him stay, but he's gone.
KJ and Tomi are good but I'm not convinced about the high IQ stuff coming from the guy who also said we have elite shooters and were FF caliber.
The high IQ meaning that is what he wants/would like to have and the Euro players start playing "pro" level much sooner and have different coaching/schemes for the most part. There is a reason, most Euro players play the same, but different than the US players.
Mostly I think fundamentals are worked on far more in Euro, than here, which breeds a higher IQ generally on the court. Maybe not the most exciting play as many of have complained about, but still. That all said I think KJ biggest problem was he tried to continue to play Euro ball and committed far to many turnovers mostly because the US athletes he was playing against were far superior across the board than what he was used too.
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The high IQ meaning that is what he wants/would like to have and the Euro players start playing "pro" level much sooner and have different coaching/schemes for the most part. There is a reason, most Euro players play the same, but different than the US players.
Mostly I think fundamentals are worked on far more in Euro, than here, which breeds a higher IQ generally on the court. Maybe not the most exciting play as many of have complained about, but still. That all said I think KJ biggest problem was he tried to continue to play Euro ball and committed far to many turnovers mostly because the US athletes he was playing against were far superior across the board than what he was used too.
And then there are the NBA athletes who are far superior to the NCAA athletes, excuse me student-athletes, that he's used to.
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And then there are the NBA athletes who are far superior to the NCAA athletes, excuse me student-athletes, that he's used to.
Yes but not Euro players as a whole, NBA yes (although defense in the league is questionable) , that will again be where he struggles. In fact, that is pretty much the only argument as to why he should have come back, is to work on that part of his game. He is gone, best wishes, cut the T/O's down and he will be a very good PRO.
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Nice to see 2 ILLINI players listed on NCAAM front page as being in first round/draft.
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Bulls make it to the play in, lose to the Heat for the 3rd straight year.
Run it back next year and go for 4 in a row!
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Bulls make it to the play in, lose to the Heat for the 3rd straight year.
Run it back next year and go for 4 in a row!
Glad I didn't go. Terrible game. Williams isn't a basketball player. Coby isn't clutch. No one plays defense. Giddey will never start for a championship team.
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Haha fuck the Lakers
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All sports are going to hell in a hand basket. Thanks Trump!
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The T'Wolves move on. The Wild need a win tonight vs Vegas.
"the Timberwolves were 7-for-47 on 3s. And they still won."
And Bradislav Underwoodivic needs to burn the tape before he gets any bright ideas.
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The T'Wolves move on. The Wild need a win tonight vs Vegas.
"the Timberwolves were 7-for-47 on 3s. And they still won."
And Bradislav Underwoodivic needs to burn the tape before he gets any bright ideas.
That's crazy to shoot so badly and still prevail. Poor Kendrick, now that the Fakers are out, what's he supposed to talk about?
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That's crazy to shoot so badly and still prevail. Poor Kendrick, now that the Fakers are out, what's he supposed to talk about?
I think the article also featured statistics Bradislav would appreciate.
A 17 rebound advantage for the T'Wolves.
They got a 10 point advantage out of the 17 extra chances.
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Bradislav was definitely creaming himself watching the Wolves execute his style of ball to perfection.
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We scored on 40 some percent of our offensive rebound possessions last year. It really skews the raw FG% numbers. Obviously I’d rather we shoot 34% or better from 3 as a team, but just looking at FG% isn’t really taking everything into account. Especially when you consider that the team is actually built to get those boards. It wasn’t an accident, they were built that way. Move the % up a couple % and not have a bizarre slew of injuries and illness down the stretch and we are looking at an all time Illini season. We saw quite a few glimpses of that before the uncontrollables rained down.
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We scored on 40 some percent of our offensive rebound possessions last year. It really skews the raw FG% numbers. Obviously I’d rather we shoot 34% or better from 3 as a team, but just looking at FG% isn’t really taking everything into account. Especially when you consider that the team is actually built to get those boards. It wasn’t an accident, they were built that way. Move the % up a couple % and not have a bizarre slew of injuries and illness down the stretch and we are looking at an all time Illini season. We saw quite a few glimpses of that before the uncontrollables rained down.
40% ?
I don't remember seeing the percentage mentioned much during the season but what was available for each game was rebounding advantage and 2nd chance points.
40% surprises me and as far as a raw number, a team shooting 40% from the floor won't get you many wins.
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They were built to get to the boards except against teams that were good, like Duke etc.
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Popovich steps down. Farewell to one of the all time greats. The Spurs run from 1997-2019 was nothing short of incredible.
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He's not dead like Bobby Hull....
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We scored on 40 some percent of our offensive rebound possessions last year. It really skews the raw FG% numbers. Obviously I’d rather we shoot 34% or better from 3 as a team, but just looking at FG% isn’t really taking everything into account. Especially when you consider that the team is actually built to get those boards. It wasn’t an accident, they were built that way. Move the % up a couple % and not have a bizarre slew of injuries and illness down the stretch and we are looking at an all time Illini season. We saw quite a few glimpses of that before the uncontrollables rained down.
If, in fact, we did score on 40% of possessions we got from offensive rebounds that is a low Off Eff number.
You really want to be producing over one point per possession so scoring over 50% of your possessions. What that means is we didn't capitalize as well as we should have
basically because of a combination of more bad shot selection/shooting and bad offensive scheme from Junior Underwood.
Our EFG% was nothing special (99th) in country.
As far as injuries, etc keeping us from an all time season - never had that sense.
We were healthy at end of year and got handled by MD and Kentucky and there is no explanation for what happened with Duke.
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60% of the time, it works every time.
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Lol clippers.
Jokic and Co get the job done on their home in game 7. Bring on OKC.
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If, in fact, we did score on 40% of possessions we got from offensive rebounds that is a low Off Eff number.
You really want to be producing over one point per possession so scoring over 50% of your possessions. What that means is we didn't capitalize as well as we should have
basically because of a combination of more bad shot selection/shooting and bad offensive scheme from Junior Underwood.
Our EFG% was nothing special (99th) in country.
As far as injuries, etc keeping us from an all time season - never had that sense.
We were healthy at end of year and got handled by MD and Kentucky and there is no explanation for what happened with Duke.
The only point I’m making is that looking at raw 3 point % is a little misleading when we get the rebounds at a high rate and turn a significant percentage of those into second chance points.
Illinois was being talked about by national pundits as a FF quality team in early January. I don’t think that I ever bought into that, but it was being said after we boatraced some good teams. We did have a pretty bad stretch of injuries and illness and it was obvious it wasn’t anywhere close to the same team. KJ was never the same after the wrist.
The Duke game came towards the end of that stretch, but we were definitely still in the stretch. We then put a decent run together after getting healthy but could tell there was rust and chemistry issues. Maryland was unconscious from 3 in that game. KJ had his shooting arm KICKED right in front of a ref on a 3 point attempt with a minute to go against Kentucky. Should have been at the line cutting it to 5 point deficit, instead they gave the ball to Kentucky and we had to foul. They outclassed us much of that game but not sure we got handled.
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Incredible night of playoff action. Both road teams pulling off strong comebacks to steal game 1.
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The only point I’m making is that looking at raw 3 point % is a little misleading when we get the rebounds at a high rate and turn a significant percentage of those into second chance points.
Illinois was being talked about by national pundits as a FF quality team in early January. I don’t think that I ever bought into that, but it was being said after we boatraced some good teams. We did have a pretty bad stretch of injuries and illness and it was obvious it wasn’t anywhere close to the same team. KJ was never the same after the wrist.
The Duke game came towards the end of that stretch, but we were definitely still in the stretch. We then put a decent run together after getting healthy but could tell there was rust and chemistry issues. Maryland was unconscious from 3 in that game. KJ had his shooting arm KICKED right in front of a ref on a 3 point attempt with a minute to go against Kentucky. Should have been at the line cutting it to 5 point deficit, instead they gave the ball to Kentucky and we had to foul. They outclassed us much of that game but not sure we got handled.
I do agree that 3pt% is not necessarily definitive or decisive by itself. Then again neither is offensive rebounding. Look at Angel Reese.
A lot of things didn't go our way, but we had a lot of self induced issues and were just not cut out for shooting threes at such a high rate IMO.
It was dumbfounding to watch them when they decided to attack the rim more and had a lot of success and then revert to chucking.
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Celtics just went 15-60 from three and had a 7 board Off rebound advantage but lost to Knicks who only shot 17/31 from FT line.
Celts took all time single game playoff record number of threes (60) and were 19/37 on twos. Rough night all around.
Basketball is just getting crazy.
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I think one of the flaws with adopting the NBA style of play is that we don’t get 7 game series in college ball. All it takes to go home for the year is a night like Boston had. We had a bunch of those nights last season.
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The T'Wolves are down 44-31 at the half. 0 for 15 from 3, and most weren't close.
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TSJ sighting tonight. He comes in and immediately takes a charge.
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TSJ sighting tonight. He comes in and immediately takes a charge.
The Timberwolves are wasting his talent sitting him on the bench. Wish he would go to another team…
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The Timberwolves are wasting his talent sitting him on the bench. Wish he would go to another team…
TSJ will be a journeyman 12-15 per game scorer best case scenario. Kid's got a huge heart/hustle, but reality is there are so many others that have better all around games in the NBA. Barreling towards the hoop will only get you so far, the jumper has got to improve as well as the handle in the half court.
On top of that, on this team, you have 7 guys that are arguably playing similar positions/minutes. A trade may help in minutes, but TSJ is you get what you see, a 6'5-6'6 guy who can do a little of everything....ton of guys in NBA fitting that size requirement.
He will get more minutes year 2-3 and beyond, but not now.
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I wouldn't sell him short yet. He has good size and speed for a guard. Handles need to improve and defense. He's shown he can score. I do wonder at times what the logic is with barely playing him.
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The T'Wolves are down 44-31 at the half. 0 for 15 from 3, and most weren't close.
I'm sure it's Tim Walz's fault. If only you people were a bunch of libs maybe you could play up to Californian standards
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The T'Wolves are down 44-31 at the half. 0 for 15 from 3, and most weren't close.
Note: With Steph Curry in the locker room.
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I'm sure it's Tim Walz's fault. If only you people were a bunch of libs maybe you could play up to Californian standards
That’s gay, like Spark…
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That’s gay, like Spark…
still jerking off to Michael's ring from 98 i see
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Celtics shoot themselves out of a 20 point lead for the second consecutive game. At home.
10/40 from three. After shooting 15/60 in game 1.
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jeez is OKC gonna score 200?
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NBA draft lottery rigged…
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NBA draft lottery rigged…
Yeah they were rewarded for doing what the nba wanted trading luka to the lakers
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Yeah they were rewarded for doing what the nba wanted trading luka to the lakers
Them balls are weighted and that not a good thing…
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Congrats to the Mavs. Can only imagine if they still had Luka but wow what a replacement.
Pacers moving on. Cavs looked unstoppable just two weeks ago. Don't think many people expected them to lose in five.
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NBA draft lottery rigged…
Twitter is praising Nico Harrison like he’s putting on some GM masterclass. Falling ass backwards into the #1 pick doesn’t suddenly erase the stupidity that was the Luka trade.
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The NBA is a neverending trainwreck. Wish they’d overhaul the whole damn thing.
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The NBA is a neverending trainwreck. Wish they’d overhaul the whole damn thing.
Agreed…
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The NBA is a neverending trainwreck. Wish they’d overhaul the whole damn thing.
Agree as well. Maybe start season in December, reduce some games, eliminate stupid mid-season tourney, first round playoffs 5 games max, do something to cut down on 3's, and quit stacking playoff games that always start way too late?
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The NBA just signed a $76b tv deal. Apparently it is popular with a few people. That's even more than the Saudi money Murph makes when he is taking a dump in his favorite office stall.
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The NBA just signed a $76b tv deal. Apparently it is popular with a few people. That's even more than the Saudi money Murph makes when he is taking a dump in his favorite office stall.
Gamblers and younger crowd. I would say the older crowd for the most part (population overall) has moved on. College is getting worsening by the year. 80's-90's was the peak for NBA interest....now it is ALL tied to wagering, take away the instant access to wagering, and I would bet the $$$/numbers would change drastically.
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The NBA just signed a $76b tv deal. Apparently it is popular with a few people. That's even more than the Saudi money Murph makes when he is taking a dump in his favorite office stall.
China…
Or
CHI-NA…
Depends on where you stand politically…
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Gamblers and younger crowd. I would say the older crowd for the most part (population overall) has moved on. College is getting worsening by the year. 80's-90's was the peak for NBA interest....now it is ALL tied to wagering, take away the instant access to wagering, and I would bet the $$$/numbers would change drastically.
Shits fucking crazy now on commercials for playoff games they are showing whos favored in bigger numbers than their seed numbers lol
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This game 7 is just crappy basketball, my god
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This game 7 is just crappy basketball, my god
From the Nuggets, yes.
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I feel like I've seen numbers like this before ...
The T'Wolves went 15-51 from 3 for 29% while turning the ball over 17 times.
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I've got no particular rooting interest now. Maybe be nice to see OKC vs Ind in finals. NBA deserves the ratings.
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Craaaaaazy ass game in MSG. Pacers have been doing the comeback thing all postseason.
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Craaaaaazy ass game in MSG. Pacers have been doing the comeback thing all postseason.
that clanker at the regulation buzzer was nuts
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TSJ with 7 points in 3 minutes and is playing great defense.
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TSJ with 7 points in 3 minutes and is playing great defense.
Make that 9 points with a standing ovation from the Minnesota faithful heading back to the bench
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That 3 from the corner looked like it might drop too. Some good minutes for him.
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TSJ outscored the MVP 15-14 8)
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Great game by TSJ when he finally got the opportunity!
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Tibs looking like a commercial for Grecian Formula.
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Another good game by the rookie, TSJ!
And he's in the game with under 10 seconds and OKC up by 2.
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twolves getting their guts rearranged by OKC. TSJ open 100% of the time gets no touches while everyone else forces up shots with guys all over them. Yay fun
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twolves getting their guts rearranged by OKC. TSJ open 100% of the time gets no touches while everyone else forces up shots with guys all over them. Yay fun
Yeah it’s a crime what they’re doing to TSJ…
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At least that Ant fella will have more time to have more children with different ladies. Hide Ms. Mn, Mn!
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At least that Ant fella will have more time to have more children with different ladies. Hide Ms. Mn, Mn!
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll mention it to her.
I've seen the box score before.
3 of the starters combined for 7 points and the team had 21 turnovers. smh
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OKC is rolling. SGA has nearly identical stats as MJ. They have a legit #2 or #3, one of those being a big. They have so many future first round draft picks.
If they win it this year they could make a run for multiple titles.
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Inside the NBA is on TNT is over. But the crew will be moving to ESPN so the laughs will continue.
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Inside the NBA is on TNT is over. But the crew will be moving to ESPN so the laughs will continue.
Fuck yeah
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Inside the NBA is on TNT is over. But the crew will be moving to ESPN so the laughs will continue.
Great experience…
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Hopefully the woketards at Disney dont ruin it
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Cardiac Pacers do it again. Won despite turning it over 25 times.
They got their first lead of the game with 0.3 seconds left in the 4th.
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Unbelievable finish! Tyrese “Big Balls” Haliburton!
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Good shit right there.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/pRGXzQN1bOo
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https://youtube.com/shorts/pRGXzQN1bOo
Nail, meet head…
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Big game tonight. Not really rooting for either but I'd like to see it 2-2 for game 5.
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It’ll be a 7 gamer but I think OKC walks away with the chip
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Do the Pacers have one more miracle to pull out of their ass?
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What game was Stephen A. Solitaire playing on his phone during this game?
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Halfway through the first round. KJ and Will still on the board…
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Halfway through the first round. KJ and Will still on the board…
Lol damn didnt know draft was tonight
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KJ finally goes at #20 to the Heat. Good spot for him
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Yep. Congrats to KJ. Are you fucking kidding. Dude will be rich and gets to spend at least his early 20s in Miami. Some people just have it made.
Hope he does well. We saw the great and the not so great with him.
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Ayyy Illini going back to back! Riley goes at #21.
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Riley was a lot of fun to watch and see him get better. Congrats to him. High ceiling IMO. Hope he works at it and is a stud in the league.
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KJ in optimum location/organization for immediate chance to make a difference and grow.
Riley to Washington, may not get much PT, depending on roster moves etc...not a good spot to land in, but hey at least he will get to play against KJ often.
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Not an NBA Expert, but hasn't Washington sucked forever and a day? Why couldn't he crack that rotation?
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Not an NBA Expert, but hasn't Washington sucked forever and a day? Why couldn't he crack that rotation?
Also not an NBA expert, but maybe because he's a skinny kid who needs to work on his ball handling and defense ?
Congrats to Will, KJ. and to the coaches for bringing in 2 NBA 1st rounders.
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What in tarnation is going on ? Rutgers with 2 picks in the top 5. 😆😆
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Riley might have the biggest risk/reward factor in the draft, but he's undersized currently by 20+ lbs and was inconsistent compared to guys like Bailey or Murray-Broyles. As bad as the bottom feeder NBA teams are, he's likely not getting meaningful PT in year one.
Congrats to him and KJ, though. I was expecting KJ to go before teams were dice-rolling on French players, but it should be a good spot for him, particularly with Miami being as international as a place as it is.
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Hope the bulls pick pans out, but it'll take several years at least.
With Derek Queen available and selected right after that I'm a little annoyed cause I like that dude. But we'll see how he pans out. Was hoping for Maluach.
Sun-Times said it perfectly. "Meh" as the first line of the article.
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Hope the bulls pick pans out, but it'll take several years at least.
With Derek Queen available and selected right after that I'm a little annoyed cause I like that dude. But we'll see how he pans out. Was hoping for Maluach.
Sun-Times said it perfectly. "Meh" as the first line of the article.
The Bulls aren’t known for making good decisions.
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Not an NBA Expert, but hasn't Washington sucked forever and a day? Why couldn't he crack that rotation?
They have alot of players in mid range size wise, and all are men....all have experience, Riley is still growing and has none, and he will not get some of the shots he took in college even off in the Pro's. He will be a very good player, just needs seasoning and whole lot of whey protein or Double Qtr's or something.
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Lonzo Ball traded to the Cavs for Isaac Okoro
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The Bulls aren’t known for making good decisions.
Stupid McCaskeys.
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NBA is a big conspiracy and joke…
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45649142/lakers-reach-agreement-center-deandre-ayton
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its so bad its not even funny, like how do people even watch that crap now, the playoffs are even garbage now
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I thought the playoffs were great. Knicks vs Pacers, Nuggets vs Thunder, and the Finals, to name several great ones
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We're loving the Nugs free agent moves here.
On another note, watched Will in summer league and it looks like he should have stayed. Especially true with who drafted him.
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How about that Furphy dunk on the Bulls rookie last night?!?
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How about that Furphy dunk on the Bulls rookie last night?!?
funniest photo I've seen in a long time
(https://i.imgur.com/fsNh4x3.png)
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That's fucking amazing
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Violated