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Title: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:07:09 PM
Jobu locked the thread so I could no longer respond? You are seriously demented if you think I offered you to call or text me every day for a week because I “wanted ammo for somewhere done the line.” A sociopath thinks like that. Congrats. Grow the fuck up.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:09:55 PM
You came at me the other day for no other reason than Billy Horschel’s honor (apparently). A guy who you didn’t even know existed until 48 hours earlier.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:11:45 PM
Just think of all the good intel I’ve collected on THEPAMan the last year.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:15:44 PM
Yes, I locked it because I'm done with it. Ready to talk football with people on here that aren't pieces of shit.

Hey, everyone. When I was like 13 I got busted for making some prank phone calls. Glad I didn't tell Tempo. I never have actually spent a night in jail. Thank goodness.

Anyway guys, I'm not responding in here again either. I'm gonna be no fun.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:16:38 PM
Just think of all the good intel I’ve collected on THEPAMan the last year.

True. Guessing he didn't talk to you about a sister that was raped and committed suicide tho.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:25:00 PM
True. Guessing he didn't talk to you about a sister that was raped and committed suicide tho.

The same guy who says he’s super sensitive to images of women being brutalized thinks his avatar of a bound, gagged, and kidnapped Hooters waitress is “super light-hearted fun.” Make that make sense.

I’m very sorry about what happened to your sister. That’s awful and should never happen to anyone. But I didn’t tell everyone that, you did.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:25:51 PM
Pretty sure I'm on the right side of this one, guys. The Adam Hoge sig thing was a bit messed up, and I'll own that, but the response showed someone's true colors. He, whether he admits it or not, threatened to divulge what I had told him in PM. So, the best way to defeat a blackmailing piece of shit is to go ahead and throw it out. I didn't want to, but I did, and the details suck and I would have really rather kept it all to myself, but I told Tempo about it over PM and that was my bad.

Anyway, I really want to be done talking about how my sister was raped and her resulting death. I won't discuss it anymore.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:26:46 PM
The same guy who says he’s super sensitive to images of women being brutalized thinks his avatar of a bound, gagged, and kidnapped Hooters waitress is “super light-hearted fun.” Make that make sense.

I’m very sorry about what happened to your sister. That’s awful and should never happen to anyone. But I didn’t tell everyone that, you did.

You threatened to divulge it. So I ended up telling. Is what it is. I don't want to revisit it anymore.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:28:04 PM
You added the Adam Hoge sig for NO REASON other than to antagonize me. Billy Horschel’s honor? Five months after it happened. You and I weren’t “fighting” when you did that. You chose to pick a fight and I gave you one. And truthfully, the only thing that really annoyed me about the Adam Hoge sig was the size of it. Lol made reading your posts even more painful.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:28:30 PM
And, the hooters car thing is obviously a joke. Like, super obvious.

Maybe the one you shared was an obvious joke too. Didn't feel like it to me, but maybe it was. I'll allow for that.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:30:15 PM
You added the Adam Hoge sig for NO REASON other than to antagonize me. Billy Horschel’s honor? Five months after it happened. You and I weren’t “fighting” when you did that. You chose to pick a fight and I gave you one. And truthfully, the only thing that really annoyed me about the Adam Hoge sig was the size of it. Lol made reading your posts even more painful.

Honestly, I really didn't know you could do that. Then it worked, and I was like, holy shit it worked. I could have added anything, but I did that. I was about to take it down when you were melting down, so then I was like, fuck it. You're insulting me and blackmailing me, so I'm not touching it. It's down now.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:30:48 PM
You threatened to divulge it. So I ended up telling. Is what it is. I don't want to revisit it anymore.

I specifically said I would never do it. Here and in text with PAMan. I was trying to point out to you that you were being an asshole, and instead of going the full mile like you’ve done in the past (stalking my Twitter, using my name and picture), I on the other hand would never resort to that bush league shit. And I didn’t. Hasn’t stopped you from whining about it, though.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:31:11 PM
And the size of the video wasn't something I could control. So don't fucking be pissed at me about that.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:32:10 PM
I specifically said I would never do it. Here and in text with PAMan. I was trying to point out to you that you were being an asshole, and instead of going the full mile like you’ve done in the past (stalking my Twitter, using my name and picture), I on the other hand would never resort to that bush league shit. And I didn’t. Hasn’t stopped you from whining about it, though.

I don't trust you. I'm quite certain you were ready to spill everything. So I got out ahead of it. Because that's what you do to blackmailers. That takes away their power.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:33:00 PM
And, once fucking again, you put your own fucking picture on OG HQ. You put your own fucking picture on Twitter, along with your name.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:34:12 PM
Fuck. Seriously. I'm done here.

Hey, everyone. My sister got raped and she's now dead. There is one more detail that I held back, and I am absolutely not going to share that with anyone that I don't trust.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:34:46 PM
I don't trust you. I'm quite certain you were ready to spill everything. So I got out ahead of it. Because that's what you do to blackmailers. That takes away their power.

The guy who literally stalked my Twitter feed, and has used my name and image countless times in an effort to embarrass me wants to cry about a blackmail threat I never actually made, and actually said I would never do. If I was blackmailing you, I’d have PMed you. I didn’t.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:39:07 PM
You threatened to divulge it. So I ended up telling. Is what it is. I don't want to revisit it anymore.

I didn’t threaten to divulge it. I was making a contrast. I would never go the full length to embarass you. You on the other hand, have shown you’re willing to do that again and again.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:39:52 PM
The guy who literally stalked my Twitter feed, and has used my name and image countless times in an effort to embarrass me wants to cry about a blackmail threat I never actually made, and actually said I would never do. If I was blackmailing you, I’d have PMed you. I didn’t.

Well, thank Christ you didn't PM me.

I'm not going through all of this again. Jesus Christ, I'm just not. And yes, you made a threat.

I took the fucking video down. I changed my username back to jobu. I'm just on here wanting to talk about football now. That's it.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:41:49 PM
I didn’t threaten to divulge it. I was making a contrast. I would never go the full length to embarass you. You on the other hand, have shown you’re willing to do that again and again.

Yes you did. That's how I took it, and that's what the fuck you did. You alluded to "I know shit about you." So I was like fuck it. Power gone.

Yes, you would absolutely go full length to embarass me. I'm not stupid. And the people reading this aren't stupid either, so stop with the bullshit.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:43:09 PM
I would never use the moment you told me you were in a bad place for some nefarious down the line “gain.” That’s an insane thought. And if you’ll remember correctly, I told you I wasn’t in a great place myself. You have at least one kid that I know of. That’s at least one reason for me to care about your mental health. The reason I’m probably not worse if because I try to stay strong for my kid.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:43:42 PM
I will not forgive you for that bullshit you pulled the other day. Period. You're a piece of shit, and I hope people on here realize it.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 03:44:00 PM
You really think I’m willing to take your phone calls because I want to spite you? Haha WTF
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:45:05 PM
I would never use the moment you told me you were in a bad place for some nefarious down the line “gain.” That’s an insane thought. And if you’ll remember correctly, I told you I wasn’t in a great place myself. You have at least one kid that I know of. That’s at least one reason for me to care about your mental health. The reason I’m probably not worse if because I try to stay strong for my kid.

Yes, you absolutely would. You pulled that shit the other day. Over a video in a sig. It's not an insane thought at all.

I don't trust you. Sorry.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:45:59 PM
You really think I’m willing to take your phone calls because I want to spite you? Haha WTF

You wanted my number. So you could dox me. No fucking way I'm giving out my number to anyone. That's ridiculous.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 03:47:26 PM
We're not getting anywhere here. Maybe we should talk on PM.

Oh, wait a minute. Never mind, you like to share shit that you PM people with others.

Fuck. Well, I guess we're just done.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:14:24 PM
Again, ironic coming from the guy who’s doxed me to every possible level he can in an effort to embarrass me. Repeatedly.

You’re literally insane if you think I’d actually take your phone calls because I wanted to embarrass you at some point down the line. WTF. Seek help, man.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 04:16:56 PM
Again, ironic coming from the guy who’s doxed me to every possible level he can in an effort to embarrass me. Repeatedly.

You’re literally insane if you think I’d actually take your phone calls because I wanted to embarrass you at some point down the line. WTF. Seek help, man.

This conversation is over. And, stop telling people to seek help. It's a fucking stupid, shitty thing to say. But then again, you're a fucking stupid, shitty person. So it fits.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 04:18:42 PM
And, you having my phone number so you could dox me down the line is absolutely in the realm of possibility. That is not an insane thought at all.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:19:53 PM
This conversation is over. And, stop telling people to seek help. It's a fucking stupid, shitty thing to say. But then again, you're a fucking stupid, shitty person. So it fits.

Doxer accuses someone of wanting to dox him. News at 11.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:22:22 PM
And, you having my phone number so you could dox me down the line is absolutely in the realm of possibility. That is not an insane thought at all.

It’s you being paranoid. I am absolutely not going to answer a phone call from someone I’ve never met in order to “get ammo for down the line.” You’re an asshole for thinking that. You told me you were in a bad place. I wanted to be there in case you felt you needed someone to talk to. Make more of it if you want. Me wanting to gain intel on you is an insane theory.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:23:29 PM
And honestly, I wasn’t in a great place either. So maybe it could have helped us both. But doesn’t look like it. Because you’re full on nuts.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 04:24:28 PM
Doxer accuses someone of wanting to dox him. News at 11.

Leaving everything else aside, I do not get the doxing argument when you doxed yourself.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:25:54 PM
I doxed myself by posting on Twitter. Ok.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:26:13 PM
The dude literally scrolled months of my tweets.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:27:07 PM
Leaving everything else aside, I do not get the doxing argument when you doxed yourself.

That fully excuses the Ernest Wayne Whitlock threads with my image and a penis drawn to my mouth. I had it coming by “doxing myself.”
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 04:28:23 PM
I doxed myself by posting on Twitter. Ok.

No, but you have mentioned who you are though. Didn't you link to Twotter?
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Custard on September 03, 2024, 04:28:47 PM
Take it to DM for chrissakes 🤣
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 04:29:03 PM
That fully excuses the Ernest Wayne Whitlock threads with my image and a penis drawn to my mouth. I had it coming by “doxing myself.”

Like I said, that's a different issue.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:31:04 PM
No, but you have mentioned who you are though. Didn't you link to Twotter?

I never once imagined a scenario in which someone would use my name, image, and scroll months worths of tweets “looking for ammo” for HQ attacks. That’s because I’m not an online bully. I might be an online shit-talker, but I’m not an online bully.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:33:13 PM
Like I said, that's a different issue.

Literally everyone here knows my full name and background because Jobu went to the fullest extent possible to expose it. No one here knew I was driving Uber until Mr. Sanctity scrolled months of my tweets for something he could embarrass with. He’s a fucking hypocrite.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 04:37:54 PM
Did you ever get a response from the Uber CEO? Because that was hilarious.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:38:26 PM
Alum wouldn’t know everything about me he does if Jobu didn’t shout it from the mountain tops. I didn’t know I was supposed to keep my identity as locked down as possible or it would be used against me…because I don’t think like that.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 04:39:03 PM
Months of your tweets. Lol, it was more like a few days. This was during the time you anger at the Uber CEO was fresh. I didn't have to scroll very much to see it.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:40:03 PM
Did you ever get a response from the Uber CEO? Because that was hilarious.

Hilarious like your avatar? My problem was eventually fixed. It took a month.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 04:40:32 PM
Alum wouldn’t know everything about me he does if Jobu didn’t shout it from the mountain tops. I didn’t know I was supposed to keep my identity as locked down as possible or it would be used against me…because I don’t think like that.

Shout it from the mountain tops? Lol, nah. It was there. I don't know. Again, you put it out there. I just pointed it out. I have actually apologized several times for doing that. You're just like a bitch. Can't let shit go.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 04:41:18 PM
Hilarious like your avatar? My problem was eventually fixed. It took a month.

Yeah, because you sent a tweet to the Uber CEO. Lol, you really are a moron. Jesus.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:42:33 PM
“It was there. So I searched several months back to find what I could and made sure to SHARE it! It was THERE!”
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:43:22 PM
Yeah, because you sent a tweet to the Uber CEO. Lol, you really are a moron. Jesus.

You’re a relentless asshole.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 04:43:43 PM
And a crybaby bitch hypocrite.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 04:46:03 PM
My sole point was in questioning the doxing claim. Jobu did not dox you, as I understand the term, you had done that yourself.

I understand this is a small quibble.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 04:54:02 PM
My sole point was in questioning the doxing claim. Jobu did not dox you, as I understand the term, you had done that yourself.

I understand this is a small quibble.

It is very small, and not worth debating anymore.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 05:04:26 PM
It is very small, and not worth debating anymore.

I beg to differ. You went out of your to dox me (because you could). You didn’t have to. And most wouldn’t have. You were eager to go where most wouldn’t.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 05:04:47 PM
This is too fucking funny.

(https://i.postimg.cc/G2dNH05v/IMG-8685.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1g7MjdPz)
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 05:06:30 PM
I beg to differ. You went out of your to dox me (because you could). You didn’t have to. And most wouldn’t have. You were eager to go where most wouldn’t.

Eh. Whatever. Who cares. Fuck you.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: murphstahoe on September 03, 2024, 05:19:05 PM
Jobu locked the thread so I could no longer respond? You are seriously demented if you think I offered you to call or text me every day for a week because I “wanted ammo for somewhere done the line.” A sociopath thinks like that. Congrats. Grow the fuck up.

Can you twats take this to 4Chan or something? At the very least, Reddit.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 05:20:16 PM
I beg to differ. You went out of your to dox me (because you could). You didn’t have to. And most wouldn’t have. You were eager to go where most wouldn’t.
You technically doxxed yourself.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 05:44:50 PM
You technically doxxed yourself.

That’s a weird way of looking at it, but sure.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 05:45:41 PM
“Some people knew your name, and you are on Twitter! You did it to yourself!”
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 05:46:32 PM
That’s like saying so and so’s husband is a good guy, he’s only abusive when his wife makes him that way.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 03, 2024, 06:18:03 PM
Nah. It’s not like that at all.

Like I said. Whatever. Fuck you.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 06:43:24 PM
I did it to myself!
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 07:27:10 PM
“Some people knew your name, and you are on Twitter! You did it to yourself!”

You posted it here or OGHQ. Isn't that the definition of doxxing?
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 07:28:06 PM
That’s like saying so and so’s husband is a good guy, he’s only abusive when his wife makes him that way.

Who is this directed at?
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 07:53:26 PM
You posted it here or OGHQ. Isn't that the definition of doxxing?

Some information was “out there.” Jobu made sure all of it got out there. Regularly.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 08:01:06 PM
For example, if I knew Jobu’s name to be Frank and he lives in Washington. And I stumbled on his Twitter account, and I scrolled months worths of tweets for something I considered embarrassing and made sure to share it (many times), along with his full name, image (reimagined to my liking); I wouldn’t call that doxing himself. I’d call that online harassment.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 08:23:16 PM
Some information was “out there.” Jobu made sure all of it got out there. Regularly.
C'mon, all the regulars knew who you were before that
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 08:24:18 PM
For example, if I knew Jobu’s name to be Frank and he lives in Washington. And I stumbled on his Twitter account, and I scrolled months worths of tweets for something I considered embarrassing and made sure to share it (many times), along with his full name, image (reimagined to my liking); I wouldn’t call that doxing himself. I’d call that online harassment.

That would be doxing since he did not put out there who he was.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 08:25:22 PM
It would be doxing if Judge Judy or I posted the other's name, since we have that info from ticket transfers.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: murphstahoe on September 03, 2024, 09:28:24 PM
You posted it here or OGHQ. Isn't that the definition of doxxing?

I'm not going to post my biography here but I use the same user name everywhere and I own the domain murphstahoe.com which is where my email address is, so pretty easy to find me.

Reading all this - should I be afraid one of you guys is gonna come drink my precious bodily fluids or something?

Whenever Illinois doesn't completely suck, it's nice to have other people (presumably people and not Siri) to babble about it with, and when they suck to shitpost about politics/etc... with other people, the fact I don't really know you all but have this loose shared background (UIUC, Central Illinois and Chicago writ large) is a feature, not a bug. Some threads I have no need for, and just ignore.

What's with all the animus?
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2024, 09:54:57 PM
What's with all the animus?

What fun is there in being nice to each other?
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Judge Judy on September 03, 2024, 10:44:41 PM
I'm not going to post my biography here but I use the same user name everywhere and I own the domain murphstahoe.com which is where my email address is, so pretty easy to find me.

Reading all this - should I be afraid one of you guys is gonna come drink my precious bodily fluids or something?

Whenever Illinois doesn't completely suck, it's nice to have other people (presumably people and not Siri) to babble about it with, and when they suck to shitpost about politics/etc... with other people, the fact I don't really know you all but have this loose shared background (UIUC, Central Illinois and Chicago writ large) is a feature, not a bug. Some threads I have no need for, and just ignore.

What's with all the animus?

Estes Park, Colorado?
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 11:47:56 PM
That would be doxing since he did not put out there who he was.

Yeah, I’m not sure “all the regulars knew who I was.” They probably knew I was Wayne in Chicago, that’s about it.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 11:53:27 PM
Or maybe I was already Wayne in Itasca by that point.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 11:54:36 PM
It’s not so much the outing of my name or who I am that bothers me. It’s the inappropriate use of all that stuff to attack me here that is out of line.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2024, 11:57:15 PM
I am not bothered that people here know my name or have seen my picture. What’s been done with those materials is another matter
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 04, 2024, 12:01:38 AM
Scrolling someone’s Twitter feed several months for anything embarrassing you can find is bush league.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: murphstahoe on September 04, 2024, 12:47:46 AM
Estes Park, Colorado?

you're thinking of Jack Torrance, and that's not far from the truth
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Custard on September 04, 2024, 12:48:25 AM
Wayne in Lakeview
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: murphstahoe on September 04, 2024, 12:49:14 AM
Yeah, I’m not sure “all the regulars knew who I was.” They probably knew I was Wayne in Chicago, that’s about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrOGeua94FM

Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 04, 2024, 06:06:49 AM
I don't trust you. I'm quite certain you were ready to spill everything. So I got out ahead of it. Because that's what you do to blackmailers. That takes away their power.

My “power.” Lol you’re delusional. I had zero intention of divulging anything you said, outside of what I already had. I’m sorry your worldview is so shitty that you think someone offering you an ear in tough times is only doing it to gain intel for some time in the future. That’s seriously messed up.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Reacher on September 04, 2024, 06:09:53 AM
Again, it’s a lot less about being “outed” as it is how my name, image, among other things have been used to attack me. Never would have fathomed such shenanigans.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 04, 2024, 07:20:15 AM
Yes, we know. You should keep telling us about it. It makes for compelling reading.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Jobu on September 04, 2024, 07:20:51 AM
My “power.” Lol you’re delusional. I had zero intention of divulging anything you said, outside of what I already had. I’m sorry your worldview is so shitty that you think someone offering you an ear in tough times is only doing it to gain intel for some time in the future. That’s seriously messed up.

Yeah, well I have trust issues. That's my problem not yours. Fuck off.
Title: Re: lol really?
Post by: Judge Judy on September 04, 2024, 07:54:56 AM
you're thinking of Jack Torrance, and that's not far from the truth

I figured you owned Murphy’s Resort and River Lodge stuff…