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Title: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:11:22 PM
Guess I have to make a game thread. Don't blame me if this goes south today.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:12:09 PM
0/6 start for us. Still missing at the rim.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2024, 02:13:33 PM
Did not listen to Beach Bum and practice layups
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 02:17:16 PM
Hummel trying to call TSJ “the one man fast break.” No sir, that’s reserved for Dee Brown.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:20:53 PM
Our defense has fallen off in the last month.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2024, 02:22:30 PM
Our defense has fallen off in the last month.

Opponents have adjusted and the coaching has yet to?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 02:23:40 PM
When the offense is out of sorts you have to play defense.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2024, 02:25:07 PM
When the offense is out of sorts you have to play defense.

Moretti fitting in nicely letting his man blow by him
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:26:45 PM
Can't make lay ups and give up lay ups. That is not a winning combination.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 02:29:04 PM
I've seen way too much the last few games of teams driving the lane and scoring or guys cutting back door and scoring. STOP YOUR MAN or we go zone once in a while to stop this shit. But, I know BU won't think of such a "puss defense".
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:32:21 PM
Better movement those last few possessions.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 02:34:00 PM
8 frigging points in 10 minutes. 11 thanks to Domask.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 02:35:12 PM
12 points in 12 minutes. Nasty…
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:35:43 PM
Down 8 to an IU team without their starting big.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:36:22 PM
Why is Quincy passing up shots all of a sudden?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 02:38:12 PM
6-21 and 1-9 on threes so far. Not good.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 02:45:52 PM
Gross game. Starting to wake up maybe. I blame Miles Leonard.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 02:50:50 PM
Gross game. Starting to wake up maybe. I blame Miles Leonard.
You misspelled the 1st word, it's Groce.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:51:31 PM
You couldn't get any more open on those threes. If we're clanking those and missing at the rim, fuggedaboutit.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2024, 02:53:02 PM
Can someone tell me why Rodgers does not play more? Seems like since Purdue he is going to the basket and generating some  offense
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 02:58:12 PM
Domask blowing the alley oop. Oof.

But 8 point lead now!
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2024, 03:00:35 PM
Can stop letting Domask take the last shot any time now.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:03:37 PM
Can someone tell me why Rodgers does not play more? Seems like since Purdue he is going to the basket and generating some  offense

His minutes are so matchup dependent.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:04:07 PM
Xavier Johnson is a punk ass bitch
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 03:04:28 PM
We've got 35 bench minutes, they have 14. Run em ragged in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 03:04:38 PM
Can someone tell me why Rodgers does not play more? Seems like since Purdue he is going to the basket and generating some  offense
He should be in there more. Good passer, can drive in half court offense, won't go crazy and try to shoot 3s, unselfish.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:06:57 PM
Can someone tell me why Rodgers does not play more? Seems like since Purdue he is going to the basket and generating some  offense

Offense operated a lot better when he was in the game
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:09:57 PM
We don’t have anyone that can keep a quick guard in front of them at all. Well, we do, but he’s wearing a red shirt. And that may (and TSJ returning to form) be the difference between this team being good and great.

So I am officially starting the campaign to Burn Sencire’s Redshirt while he’s still got enough time to get into game shape and flow.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 03:12:58 PM
Right now the offense is ineffective with TSj in.
It is going to take time to reintegrate him.




Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 03:16:49 PM
We don’t have anyone that can keep a quick guard in front of them at all. Well, we do, but he’s wearing a red shirt. And that may (and TSJ returning to form) be the difference between this team being good and great.

So I am officially starting the campaign to Burn Sencire’s Redshirt while he’s still got enough time to get into game shape and flow.

I think the lack of a true PG is what is limiting us. A lot of games come down to 2 or 3 possessions and we do not have a true penetrate and create guy.
Rodgers, as you note, does good against certain matchups. Not good vs others. Hardly played previous two games.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:26:26 PM
How many shots at the rim are these motherfuckers gonna miss??
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 03:27:17 PM
We can’t make shit.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 03:29:54 PM
15-40. Little ball movement, screening, cutting. Nobody creating.
Pretty rough right now.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:31:52 PM
Luke Goode pisses me off.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 03:31:57 PM
Goode needs to play defense. Another missed bunny.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:32:17 PM
Jesus we can’t make shit
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:32:43 PM
Another clank at the rim. How do you keep missing those over and over?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:34:55 PM
I know Shannon was out for almost a month but good lord did he just sit around playing video games the whole time or what? We lose this game and holy fuck we are in trouble.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 03:35:47 PM
DGL sighting. Underwood is reaching for answers
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 03:37:01 PM
Hawkins needs help against physical 5s. Teams exploiting that.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 03:37:21 PM
We're now out rebounded and 1-10 from the floor this half.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 03:37:36 PM
How many times as a kid were you were told "cut off the baseline". ?

19-4 run, bleeping stupidity.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:37:45 PM
We cannot drop a home game to these clowns. This would be a worse loss than losing to Maryland at home.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:39:39 PM
DGL splashes one in! Is that the spark we so desperately needed?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:40:54 PM
Dain looked better than CH when he was in. DGL made one so he’s probably going to start relentlessly chucking now.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:42:13 PM
Have to start doubling Reneau. Let them chuck away from outside and if they knock them down so be it.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 03:42:59 PM
We need stops. They are torching us. NU torched us. MD torched us.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 03:45:42 PM
We sure are good at blowing layups. And FTs.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:48:19 PM
Goode looked like baby Bambi taking that to the rim lol
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 03:49:22 PM
Have to start doubling Reneau. Let them chuck away from outside and if they knock them down so be it.
Walker has 3 shots in 26 minutes. We could maybe leave him alone.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 03:49:24 PM
Big play by Hawkins!
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 03:51:01 PM
Wake up mfers
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 03:53:57 PM
Just get the W.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 03:55:02 PM
Obvious offensive foul. C'mon Hawkins.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 03:55:53 PM
We will grind this out, but they are missing their best player and have hit zero 3s and hanging with us at home.
We need to get our rhythm back on both sides.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 03:59:29 PM
50% from free shot line 😬
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2024, 03:59:41 PM
Why are free shots only becoming an issue now?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 04:00:08 PM
Shannon has the yips
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 04:00:33 PM
Why are free shots only becoming an issue now?

Because Tempo said…
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 04:06:02 PM
And alot of those short. That's usually a sign of fatigue/lack of energy.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 04:06:13 PM
Maybe Reneau out will do it for us. Maybe.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 04:07:57 PM
I have a feeling Galloway is gonna hit some big bullshit three for them… 😬
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 04:08:59 PM
Reneau gone, fouled out. Now take advantage dammit.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 04:09:32 PM
Good play by Johnson, but man he’s got an ugly ass shot. He’s got like a hitch in it or something…
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 04:09:40 PM
Guerrier with 16 minutes 🤷
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 04:11:56 PM
Get Harmon out of there. He's killing us.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 04:12:39 PM
Have to make plays now.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 04:13:34 PM
Harmon and TSJ not giving us anything
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 04:15:51 PM
What was TSJ confused or complaining about after the missed FTs where Brad had to shove him into the corner?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 04:16:08 PM
Get Harmon out of there. He's killing us.

Ok I might forgive the rest of the game if that shot seals it.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 04:16:41 PM
Atta boy Harmon!
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 04:19:32 PM
Good thing aware didn’t play. Glad we pulled it out. That was like pouring bleach in my eyes…
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 04:20:56 PM
W is a W is a W but having to sit through that was worse than going in for a root canal.

TSJ better recapture his mojo ASAP.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2024, 04:23:00 PM
Thought they looked better on both ends when Rodgers was in there. But what do I know?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 04:25:05 PM
Guerrier with 16 minutes 🤷

2/6 FTs. Zero FG attempts. What was the deal? Wrist acting up again?
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 04:25:11 PM
If this is our mid-year slump, get thru it and get back on track and dictate the pace of the game a little.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 04:26:51 PM
2/6 FTs. Zero FG attempts. What was the deal? Wrist acting up again?

No idea. 2 pts and 4 boards and never looked like he was in the game much.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on January 27, 2024, 04:31:04 PM
W is a W is a W but having to sit through that was worse than going in for a root canal.

TSJ better recapture his mojo ASAP.
Sure wasn't pretty but it's a W. 28-16 run to win after being down 7. Gotta come out to start 2nd half much better than recent games.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 27, 2024, 04:36:30 PM
That was an ugly W

I'll take it
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2024, 04:38:33 PM
I don’t think the reintegration of TSJ is going to be a quick thing. He’s not just “not himself,” he was flat out bad on both ends of the floor today. If it weren’t for his ability to get fouled by running into people, he’d be a completely liability. He’s clearly not right mentally. I’m really hoping a light switch gets flipped here but this is really concerning. And it’s getting worse each game. It’s really a double edged sword. Like you need to play him so he gets his confidence back but then you’re putting games in jeopardy. We matched up better with NU without him.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2024, 04:42:23 PM
I don’t think the reintegration of TSJ is going to be a quick thing. He’s not just “not himself,” he was flat out bad on both ends of the floor today. If it weren’t for his ability to get fouled by running into people, he’d be a completely liability. He’s clearly not right mentally. I’m really hoping a light switch gets flipped here but this is really concerning. And it’s getting worse each game. It’s really a double edged sword. Like you need to play him so he gets his confidence back but then you’re putting games in jeopardy. We matched up better with NU without him.

The Trump ruling might’ve fucked him up a little…
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 04:48:42 PM
I don’t think the reintegration of TSJ is going to be a quick thing. He’s not just “not himself,” he was flat out bad on both ends of the floor today. If it weren’t for his ability to get fouled by running into people, he’d be a completely liability. He’s clearly not right mentally. I’m really hoping a light switch gets flipped here but this is really concerning. And it’s getting worse each game. It’s really a double edged sword. Like you need to play him so he gets his confidence back but then you’re putting games in jeopardy. We matched up better with NU without him.

Yeah it feels like a midseason reset with TSJ being reintegrated. He very well could have been at the facility working out with Fletch but it's nowhere near the same as being in game shape. Just hope he finds it quickly.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 04:49:50 PM
Sure wasn't pretty but it's a W. 28-16 run to win after being down 7. Gotta come out to start 2nd half much better than recent games.

DGL gave us the kick in the ass we badly needed.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 27, 2024, 05:15:14 PM
Thought they looked better on both ends when Rodgers was in there. But what do I know?

It's really a trade off. If their 5 is guarding him then they layoff and clog the lane.
So no booty ball and TSj driving like a crazy man into lane.

Using Harmon or Moretti or DGL makes them play us more honest.

Also they can play a smaller guy on Hawkins if their 5 is on Rodgers and Hawkins does not make them pay.

It's a work in progress.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 05:20:32 PM
Gotta win the smellers. At the Bucknuts then home for the Huskers. Win both and work things out.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on January 27, 2024, 05:56:16 PM
Very mediocre win to say the least, the guys fought and ekked out a B1G win today, that said:

Hawkins for all he does is the only guy in the history of basketball to never commit a foul and also always gets fouled and obviously never gets the calls...this kid has become my least favorite ILLINI, and I liked him alot when we got him. The head case has to stop...

TSJ, looks beyond rusty since returning, looks to be trying to pick his spots, however, some on team seem to be looking his way more, the offense ran better when he was gone I hate to say it.

Domask is a god send for us so far and we will go as he does, not TSJ imo.

Guerrier, needs to be guarding the Bigs at the 5 position, he is more physical than CoHawk.

Goode, looked at least like he wanted to see what making a 2 would be like....turning into a very above average rebounder

Harmon will give us quality minutes game in and game out.

Rodgers will be a STUD next year, can't see him not shooting 500-1000 shots per day this summer.

DGL will get more minutes moving forward

BU simply didn't seem to have the right rotations, the offense was horrendous, and we got smoked in the paint....we keep Feb going like we are ending January, our seed option will go from a 4-5 to a 9-10.


Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: No one in Mn on January 27, 2024, 06:02:53 PM
The game was ugly but not as ugly as the Oregon hoops floor.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2024, 06:11:27 PM
The game was ugly but not as ugly as the Oregon hoops floor.

It looks like a lot of accidents happened on it.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ridingthegrange on January 27, 2024, 06:17:20 PM
The game was ugly but not as ugly as the Oregon hoops floor.

Went to a game there a while ago.  It's just as bad in person. 
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Beach Bum on January 28, 2024, 12:47:56 AM
Nice win MoFos and screw IU they suck.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 28, 2024, 07:25:03 AM
The Trump ruling might’ve fucked him up a little…

The Trump ruling was for defaming her and came way AFTER the $5m finger blasting verdict. So far the kid has said nothing about the accuser publicly.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: ThePAMan on January 28, 2024, 07:27:52 AM
The game was ugly but not as ugly as the Oregon hoops floor.

I watched a little of UCLA and USC before the Bkackhawks came on. Talk about 2 terribly brutal offenses. They looked ready for B1G conference play.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Reacher on January 28, 2024, 11:54:16 AM
I find it pretty concerning that it took us until the last minute at home to pull a way from a 12-7 team that failed to make a 3 pointer.

Also, weird how it’s harder to find a quality box score on Google than it was 7-10 years ago.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 28, 2024, 01:23:21 PM
I find it pretty concerning that it took us until the last minute at home to pull a way from a 12-7 team that failed to make a 3 pointer.

Also, weird how it’s harder to find a quality box score on Google than it was 7-10 years ago.


Well, Underwood says Domask is like Luka so there is that.

To be fair, there is going to be a few games
adjustment period with TSj coming back.
Also wonder how far he will get back to pre felony charge status. Mentally he has a lot going on.

I also think teams in BT are making adjustments to our unique lineup and approach. We need to counteract that.
Hawkins needs to improve back to basket and getting to rim rather than being just face up.
Rodgers needs to take and make a few pull ups.
We need to double the post more or mix in Dainja and Guerrier when Hawkins is getting manhandled.

I think we will be fine. Solid 4, maybe 3 seed. Third in BT most likely.
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Jrock74 on January 28, 2024, 01:48:46 PM
Id be shocked if TSJ returns to anything near he was pre arrest.

I dont know if 3rd in the B10 gets you a 4 seed this year.  At 15-5; 6-3 matrix has a 4 now but we are trending down.

Doubt we beat MSU wisconsin and Purdue.  Maryland will be tough.   That would put us at 22-9; 13-7.  But our resume would be horrid.  Maybe 2 or 3 Quad 1 wins total.  Right no we are 2-4 in Q1 and 3-0 Q2.  With 5Q 1 left and 4 Q2 left. 

Id be happy with a 3 4 5 seed but wouldnt be shocked to see us closer to a 6 7 or 8. 
Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Lkdog on January 28, 2024, 02:01:05 PM
All could be true.

Our marquee win is FAU which is not holding up.
We need an upset of PU or Wisky to get a 3.

That said there is not much difference in the second round of tourney between teams seeded 3-7.
We will need to play well to get through.

We do not want an 8 seed. Would need to pull one out of our ass then just to get to second weekend.



Title: Re: Hoosiers
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 29, 2024, 07:50:10 PM
Someone else is gonna have to start the thread tomorrow. I'll be missing it as I refuse to pay for Peacock.