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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on December 16, 2023, 10:27:24 PM
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This is the toughest game left on the schedule IMO. Cleveland has the top ranked defense in the league, and they are really good at home. Inclement weather seems a near certainty. Need the defense and run game to show up. I think the Bears turn Flacco over a couple times and win 22-13. If the Bears can win this one, I think winning out is pretty realistic.
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Uh, I know Tempo cares nothing about linemen and thinks the NFL is a video game, but the Brown are missing their 2 offensive tackles.
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Uh, I know Tempo cares nothing about linemen and thinks the NFL is a video game, but the Brown are missing their 2 offensive tackles.
You remind me so much of Rosie from Point Break.
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https://youtu.be/mefgfLDn95w?si=monFTUETp5e2rJ0X
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Never watched that movie.
High 40s with rain until 2pm local time is the forecast. Must protect the ball. Hope the Bear is not fumbling like Miami Ohio and App State did in The Avocado Cure Bowl yesterday.
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But, I agree with Tempo that the Bear should be in line to win this game with a beat up Brown OL. Joe Flacco should have problems today.
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Supposed to be a bit windy today too. Tough day at the office for the offenses.
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I said this weeks ago. AOTC again?
https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/bears-finally-realize-benefits-of-getting-team-together
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Deep shot to hobbled Moore to start the game was questionable. Just run it and get some momentum going. You’re deep in your own territory.
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Deep shot to hobbled Moore to start the game was questionable. Just run it and get some momentum going. You’re deep in your own territory.
You’d have said it was great if it was completed. Like you literally base everything off the opposite of what actually happens and the outcome after the fact. It’s easy to do after you see the outcome of the play.
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Darnell Wright got dropped like a bad habit against Zadarius Smith.
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You’d have said it was great if it was completed. Like you literally base everything off the opposite of what actually happens and the outcome after the fact. It’s easy to do after you see the outcome of the play.
Like you literally just bitch about me constantly. Of course, I’d have “liked” it if it was completed. This will be a rock fight. No need to get behind early inside your own 20
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I didn’t care for the call.
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This defense is gonna be damn good for years to come I believe. Since getting Sweat, they’re pretty damn good. Add another DE, S, and a few other complimentary pieces and wow!
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I didn’t care for the call.
But if they didn’t take a shot, you’d have bitched that Gesty didn’t. That’s the issue. It’s constant. It doesn’t matter what he does.
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Good punt. Let’s flip the field.
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But if they didn’t take a shot, you’d have bitched that Gesty didn’t. That’s the issue. It’s constant. It doesn’t matter what he does.
In the rain, to a clearly not fully healthy Moore, to start the game. Don’t care for the call.
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If they start the drive at the 40 I like that call better.
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This defense is gonna be damn good for years to come I believe. Since getting Sweat, they’re pretty damn good. Add another DE, S, and a few other complimentary pieces and wow!
Patience.
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Tonyan just fucked Fields there with that pretty throw!
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Telling you guys, his supporting cast isn’t good enough. That should have been 6.
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Telling you guys, his supporting cast isn’t good enough. That should have been 6.
I’ll say this… if the Bears can get 3 1st round picks and a good player for the #1 pick, I’m ok with not selecting a WB with it.
Chump edit- as I say this, Fields fumbles the ball🤦🏻♂️
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Gotta rip that one, Justin.
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Gotta rip that one, Justin.
If anything, throw it up and hope to make a play or just throw it out of bounds.
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I think Terrell Smith might be better than Stevenson. Either way, both nice looking rookie CBs.
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I can’t believe they haven’t called a designed run yet. Cleveland has been susceptible to running QBs
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Don’t like that Getsy is kind of pass happy to start the game, having said that no one is complaining if Tonyan catches that deep ball.
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I’ll bet Brock Bowers catches that deep ball. 😂
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Winning the battle of field position, which is good. Like I said, rock fight.
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Eddie Jackson did something!
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Just run a fucking power formation at the goal line Getsy, you fucking clown.
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Finally something out of the I.
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Cleveland keeps trying to run 12 personnel at the goal line.
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My God, what the fuck?!
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How about that fucking play.
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That was all Fields magic right there.
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Nice play by Fields to get that TD there. Credit to him.
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Johnson and Edwards missing big opportunities there 😬
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Johnson got held on that 4th down play…
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Njoku is a big scary motherfucker! 😳 the burn story on his face and body while wearing that mask makes it even scarier. You could literally make a horror movie out of it!
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Edwards and Johnson both had golden oppportunities to end that drive.
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That was all Fields magic right there.
PAMan wasn’t that impressed.
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Jenkins injured. Shocker.
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Has Getsy ever heard of the QB draw?
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Jenkins injured. Shocker.
Kid is good, just can’t stay on the field.
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Yeah, Jenkins in a franchise guard if he can stay healthy.
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Knee down and Fields sacked. Throw the fucking ball dude!!
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Gotta cut that lose a half second earlier.
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Would be nice to have an MHJ or Brock Bowers on the other end of that Hail Mary.
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Gotta cut that lose a half second earlier.
Would be nice to have a QB to cut that loose a half second earlier…
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Would be funny to see NE beat KC.
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Kid is good, just can’t stay on the field.
Someone told us they do not need OL
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Would be nice to have a QB to cut that loose a half second earlier…
Would be nice to have a PERFECT quarterback.
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Would be nice to have a PERFECT quarterback.
Or OC!
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Someone told us they do not need OL
No one said that. You drafting Jenkin’s backup top 10?
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Drafting Brock Bowers doesn’t mean you can’t add to the OLine.
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Or OC!
I’d take average there.
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No one said that. You drafting Jenkin’s backup top 10?
They are getting pushed around up front today. At least The Brown have an excuse for getting pushed around today. The Bear do not.
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Drafting Brock Bowers doesn’t mean you can’t add to the OLine.
Can he block?
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Would be nice to have a QB to cut that loose a half second earlier…
Don’t forget. If Tonyan catches a really well thrown deep ball Fields has two TD passes in the first half.
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Can he block?
That’s what Kmet and Lewis are for.
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Don’t forget. If Tonyan catches a really well thrown deep ball Fields has two TD passes in the first half.
The bigger question is why is Tonyan even in the game?
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They are getting pushed around up front today. At least The Brown have an excuse for getting pushed around today. The Bear do not.
Well it is arguably the best DLine in the league, that plays even better at home, so not shocking.
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That’s what Kmet and Lewis are for.
That's not how the Pats did it with Gronk and Hernandez
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The bigger question is why is Tonyan even in the game?
So you’re conceding the Bears weapons are not up to par…
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Well it is arguably the best DLine in the league, that plays even better at home, so not shocking.
Ergo the need for better OL
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Do you’re conceding the Bears weapons are not up to par…
They have guys that Mahomes would die for right now
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That's not how the Pats did it with Gronk and Hernandez
Gronk was an excellent blocker. Can’t recall on Hernandez. Could definitely kill a guy if needed though.
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They have guys that Mahomes would die for right now
Bullshit. DJ Moore, that’s it.
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Don’t forget. If Tonyan catches a really well thrown deep ball Fields has two TD passes in the first half.
Don't forget that the Brown could have 3 more interceptions too
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Bullshit. DJ Moore, that’s it.
Mooney..Scott..Kmet
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Don’t forget. If Tonyan catches a really well thrown deep ball Fields has two TD passes in the first half.
He has a fumble and INT too, don’t forget
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Rashee Rice is definitely better than Mooney. They have lots of draft capital invested in the WR position. The Bears don’t.
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He has a fumble and INT too, don’t forget
So you’re counting a Hail Mary. Nice. GTFOH
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Gronk was an excellent blocker. Can’t recall on Hernandez. Could definitely kill a guy if needed though.
I laughed…
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So you’re counting a Hail Mary. Nice. GTFOH
Why not? You counted the offsides wide-open TD last week…
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Lucas Patrick. Lol
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Rashee Rice is definitely better than Mooney. They have lots of draft capital invested in the WR position. The Bears don’t.
The Bears did too with Claypool. That statement above doesn’t mean shit…
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Why not? You counted the offsides wide-open TD last week…
JFC so disingenuous
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JFC so disingenuous
So they both don’t count?
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JFC so disingenuous
Or they both do?
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Bears getting manhandled up front. Maybe we should trade that top pick and draft all linemen.
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Or they both do?
Fuck off.
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JFC so disingenuous
Because you can’t have it where one does and one doesn’t…
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So they both don’t count?
I’m not going to count an end zone Hail Mary against any QB. It’s a 50/50 ball.
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I’m not going to count an end zone Hail Mary against any QB. It’s a 50/50 ball.
And I’m not gonna count a bullshit TD that the defense obviously didn’t play on…
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Just ignore me if you’re going to be a petty little bitch. You said 4 pages ago you’d roll with Fields. Pick a fucking lane.
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Just ignore me if you’re going to be a petty little bitch. You said 4 pages ago you’d roll with Fields. Pick a fucking lane.
I said if they could get 3 first, I’m down!
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Holy shit what a hit and pick 6!
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LBs finally make a big play
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The big money LBs finally earning their dough
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Joe Flacco wishes he had the Bear receivers right now
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LBs finally make a big play
They’ve been making big plays for a month. Lol
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Joe Flacco wishes he had the Bear receivers right now
His are better than ours, collectively. By a lot
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They’ve been making big plays for a month. Lol
Can you name any before that hit and pick 6?
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Flacco channeling Kyle Orton with the neck beard.
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His are better than ours, collectively. By a lot
They have not looked it. 14 points off of "WR" turnovers
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Can you name any before that hit and pick 6?
I think both Edwards and Edmunds had big interceptions last week or maybe it was the week before pay attention
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They have not looked it. 14 points off of "WR" turnovers
I love you and your last five minute sample size conclusions
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I think both Edwards and Edmunds had big interceptions last week or maybe it was the week before pay attention
That is a lot of words to say, "No."
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I love you and your last five minute sample size conclusions
All the Bear points are off turnovers, correct?
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Let’s get the run established. DJ hurting, Justin taking lumps. Run the ball, dominate upfront. Play good defense run this out.
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Protect the ball and I think we win.
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Velus Jones sighting
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Rare positive play from Velus Jones
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All the Bear points are off turnovers, correct?
You are the pickiest motherfucker I’ve ever seen
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Jones now a RB....
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Scott sighting
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All the Bear points are off turnovers, correct?
Should have had a 60 yard bomb, correct?
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Should have had a 60 yard bomb, correct?
Yep and 3 INT
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Great Scott!
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Yep and 3 INT
Oh, fuck off. Like Fields is the only QB to get INts dropped.
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Oh, fuck off. Like Fields is the only QB to get INts dropped.
Today he defintiely is.
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Play good defense protect the ball and this is a win.
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Thuggish Ruggish Bone...that was one of my jams back in the day.
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Today he defintiely is.
Blah blah blah puke blah blah blah
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Oh, fuck off. Like Fields is the only QB to get INts dropped.
Look, we’re just fucking with you, but you CAN’T count one thing and not count the other. That’s mainly one of the reasons I fuck with you. Hence the comment earlier. You either need to count them both, or don’t count either. You can’t just count one and not the other to fit your narrative and defend Fields.
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Look, we’re just fucking with you, but you CAN’T count one thing and not count the other. That’s mainly one of the reasons I fuck with you. Hence the comment earlier. You either need to count them both, or don’t count either. You can’t just count one and not the other to fit your narrative and defend Fields.
Maybe be a normal person and stop “fucking with me.” Ever considered that?
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Look, we’re just fucking with you, but you CAN’T count one thing and not count the other. That’s mainly one of the reasons I fuck with you. Hence the comment earlier. You either need to count them both, or don’t count either. You can’t just count one and not the other to fit your narrative and defend Fields.
He gets credit for the dropped TD but not the dropped INTs.
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Counting a Hail Mary last play as a true INT is dumb. But I’m sure you know that.
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Counting a Hail Mary last play as a true INT is dumb. But I’m sure you know that.
I wasn't counting it
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Joe Flacco wishes he had the Bear OL AND the Bear receivers
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Defense travels
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The Sweat effect
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Score a TD here and make the 4th quarter a kick your feet up affair.
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The Sweat effect
I remember all the way back to 6 weeks ago when he was a BUST!
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I remember all the way back to 6 weeks ago when he was a BUST!
LOL. The Brown is playing a guy who was on the street at Halloween
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I told you that INT hit the ground lol
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Or at least I told PaMan that.
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Here comes the prevent offense
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Looks like Isaiah Williams
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Well..that's not good.
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That's on Flacco
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We are going to rue the day that Everlose saves his job.
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Stevenson gets it back!
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Giggity! Stevenson rescues us from the nut punch.
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I know we are getting our shit stuffed in in the run game but goddamnit run it
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Knew he was going to run. Smart by Getsy to spread them out
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Punt the ball.
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Punt the ball.
Lol
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We are going to rue the day that Everlose saves his job.
If Chicken Little ever loses his, we know who to replace him with.
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Lol
Who is laughing now?
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Shoestring fucking tackle. No fucking way.
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Eberlose is an idiot.
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Fucking Nagy call there.
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If Chicken Little ever loses his, we know who to replace him with.
He sucks and is still going to save his job.
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I’ll be a normal person and stop giving you shit Tempo.
Give me 3 first and a good player and I’m taking it. I’ll trust Poles on whatever he decides. If someone is willing to give us a 1st for Fields, I’m taking it in a heartbeat though. It’s possible Atlanta does just that.
With the 3 firsts, you can get a QB later and have tons or resources. Just don’t think it’s a good idea when you have the opportunity this year to kick the can down the road. If there’s this much doubt about Fields, you take your guy now. No QB next year is a Caleb Williams in my opinion.
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Fucking Nagy call there.
GMAFB..you beg them to let him run and he did.
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Who is laughing now?
FG is always an option. 49-50 yards is almost pedestrian these days. Nagy ass play call on 4th. Just line up and beat someone.
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GMAFB..you beg them to let him run and he did.
I wanted something to the middle or a sneak. Not Mooney blowing a block on the outside.
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FG is always an option. 49-50 yards is almost pedestrian these days. Nagy ass play call on 4th. Just line up and beat someone.
They didn't try the FG in that direction before...
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Way to go Eberlose. Stupid fuck
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GMAFB..you beg them to let him run and he did.
Hindsight is 20/20. I explained this to him at the very beginning of the game.
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I wanted something to the middle or a sneak. Not Mooney blowing a block on the outside.
If a sneak didn’t work you would’ve complained that Getsy is so obvious and called it a stupid play.
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Geeen got held on that play.
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If a sneak didn’t work you would’ve complained that Getsy is so obvious and called it a stupid play.
I thought you were gonna be normal. That lasted one minute. I don’t like trick em shit that much when you need a half yard.
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I wanted something to the middle or a sneak. Not Mooney blowing a block on the outside.
The Brown DL has blown up all the runs up the middle
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I thought you were gonna be normal. That lasted one minute. I don’t like trick em shit that much when you need a half yard.
He is right. They needed more than half a yard I thought
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I thought you were gonna be normal. That lasted one minute. I don’t like trick em shit that much when you need a half yard.
When your OL is overmatched that is what you have to do
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If a sneak didn’t work you would’ve complained that Getsy is so obvious and called it a stupid play.
I’ll never criticize a sneak when you need 18 inches.
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When your OL is overmatched that is what you have to do
You put faith in your guys for one play. That’s what you do. Or trust Mooney to block I guess.
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I'll agree with you on that one, Tempo
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You put faith in your guys for one play. That’s what you do. Or trust Mooney to block I guess.
Too bad St. Brown is hurt. Could have used his blocking
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Getsy's gotta go
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Fucking trickery again. Fuck you, Getsy.
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Fucking trickery again. Fuck you, Getsy.
Too much to ask to give it your running back
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3 Sweat sacks!
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Panthers win
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Lot of stat padding against an USFL OL. Get paid, fellas!
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I really don’t think they want to win this year. I really think they want to throw and evaluate Fields more this year on that throwing. Call me crazy, but it’s true. Tell me it’s not based on the decisions they’re making…
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Throw the ball!
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Launch Getsy into the Sun. Today
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I really don’t think they want to win this year. I really think they want him to throw and evaluate Fields more this year on that throwing. Call me crazy, but it’s true. Tell me it’s not based on the decisions they’re making…
They’ve taken the ball out of his hands multiple times late. I don’t agree with this at all. They are in the playoff race. They aren’t trying to lose or sacrifice the season for evaluation.
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Bears need a new punter ASAP.
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Dad.Gum.It.
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Bears gonna Bears this one away like only they know how.
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We are going to rue the day that Everlose saves his job.
I may have been a bit premature on this call.
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They’ve taken the ball out of his hands multiple times late. I don’t agree with this at all. They are in the playoff race. They aren’t trying to lose or sacrifice the season for evaluation.
Then they don’t trust him in these situations and the writing is in the wall that he’s gone, because you can’t write n games like this. They appear to have made their decision.
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Gonna have to pass now and I’m pretty sure I know how this ends. Fields will have Smith and Garrett hanging from his ears.
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Then they don’t trust him in these situations and the writing is in the wall that he’s gone, because you can’t write n games like this. They appear to have made their decision.
JFC
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OL looks great!
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Getsy finally calls a run on 1st down. Yay
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No HC or OC is gonna put their jobs on the line with this shitty play calling unless they know their QB isn’t the guy. I wouldn’t think this is just my opinion.
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Gonna have to pass now and I’m pretty sure I know how this ends. Fields will have Smith and Garrett hanging from his ears.
The OL should do its job. Or not.
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No HC or OC is gonna put their jobs on the line with this shitty play calling unless they know their QB isn’t the guy. I wouldn’t think this is just my opinion.
They let him throw the ball.....
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Gonna have to pass now and I’m pretty sure I know how this ends. Fields will have Smith and Garrett hanging from his ears.
Field’s is gonna have to perform though in situations like this though. He doesn’t.
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No HC or OC is gonna put their jobs on the line with this shitty play calling unless they know their QB isn’t the guy. I wouldn’t think this is just my opinion.
Jesus Christ. At least wait until the game is over. FFS. You’re all over the place today
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Getsy needs to be fired.
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Flacco fresh off sitting on his ass two weeks ago already has more 300 yard games than the Bears guy does in three years.
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Getsy needs to be fired.
Eberlose too. Guys are wide open and this is a USFL level line
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Almost another pick!
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Why is 93 covering the TE??????
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Horrible choke. Disgusting
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Eberlose sucks ass
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Game over. Run clock down and kick the FG.
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What the hell kind of defense has Justin Jones trying to cover Njoku?
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What the hell kind of defense has Justin Jones trying to cover Njoku?
Good question....maybe Eberlose defender Tempo can answer it.
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What a sickening loss this is going to be.
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What a sickening loss this is going to be.
If this gets Eberflus, Getsy and Fields the fuck out of here then it's not as sickening.
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If this gets Eberflus, Getsy and Fields the fuck out of here then it's not as sickening.
Agreed…
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Less than 50% completion percentage for 136 yards. That ain’t it.
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Great Scott!!!!
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That was such a Bears ending
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Fucking Mooney had it!
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Adios Fields, Everlose, Getsy and hopefully Poles
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What a sickening loss. Tell me again how good Fields’ supporting cast is on offense. Darnell Mooney sucks.
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Wow what an ending
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I think they can probably take them out of the “in the hunt” graphic
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Less than 50% completion percentage for 136 yards. That ain’t it.
This.
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Adios Fields, Everlose, Getsy and hopefully Poles
Lol Poles isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
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Mooney has to make that play
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What a sickening loss. Tell me again how good Fields’ supporting cast is on offense. Darnell Mooney sucks.
Fields ain’t it either man, and I mean that with complete sincerity…
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This.
Dude, he was under duress almost constantly. Had a long TD dropped. This isn’t on Fields.
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Bears are a good defensive team being held back by terrible offensive playcalling and mediocre as fuck quarterback play.
We can debate and argue why and come up with all the excuses we want, but that's what it is. That's what they're going to be until they change the offensive coordinator and quarterback.
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Mooney has to make that play
This as well…
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I think they can probably take them out of the “in the hunt” graphic
Yeah it was fun while it lasted.
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Fields ain’t it either man, and I mean that with complete sincerity…
Thanks for your sincerity.
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Dude, he was under duress almost constantly. Had a long TD dropped. This isn’t on Fields.
Not saying this either. But he’s not the guy for our team. Time to move on in my opinion.
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Bears are a good defensive team being held back by terrible offensive playcalling and mediocre as fuck quarterback play.
We can debate and argue why and come up with all the excuses we want, but that's what it is. That's what they're going to be until they change the offensive coordinator and quarterback.
Well said…
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What a sickening loss. Tell me again how good Fields’ supporting cast is on offense. Darnell Mooney sucks.
Fields didn't do much either today
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Mooney has to make that play
It was in his fucking lap and he just let it go. Wow. Just terrible.
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Bears are a good defensive team being held back by terrible offensive playcalling and mediocre as fuck quarterback play.
We can debate and argue why and come up with all the excuses we want, but that's what it is. That's what they're going to be until they change the offensive coordinator and quarterback.
Uh, unless they were sacking Joe Flacco or he was throwing the ball where he thought guys were going to be but weren't, Brown receivers were wide open, especially on those last 2 series. Eberlose sucks.
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Dude, he was under duress almost constantly.
I can't believe you have the gall to say this after mocking me for saying they need OL....
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What a demoralizing loss. Totally ruins a really solid month of good play.
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I can't believe you have the gall to say this after mocking me for saying they need OL....
I never once said the offensive line was a finished project. They clearly need a center. The line is still young. They will get better, but they aren’t there yet. No one besides Patrick is likely to get drafted over, and the argument was drafting Brock Bowers. Drafting a Brock Bowers doesn’t preclude you from improving the line. Your argument is a false equivalency.
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Also, let’s not forget this was a road game against probably the best DLine in the league. Against probably the best defensive player in football.
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Also, let’s not forget this was a road game against probably the best DLine in the league. Against probably the best defensive player in football.
The Bear offense was absolutely terrible today.
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It was in his fucking lap and he just let it go. Wow. Just terrible.
He sucks. WR4 at best. Overrated.
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The defense ended up being bad too.
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The Bear offense was absolutely terrible today.
Herbert and Foreman averaged 1.3 and -1 yards per carry.
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Herbert and Foreman averaged 1.3 and -1 yards per carry.
But they should have sneaked the ball on 3rd and 4th down....
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And the blocking didn’t help at all. But IMO the Bears should have been running more to run clock. The defense was playing really well. Getsy should be fired.
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The Bear offense was absolutely terrible today.
Well then you were AOTC. Draft over all of them…
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And the blocking didn’t help at all. But IMO the Bears should have been running more to run clock. The defense was playing really well. Getsy should be fired.
Eberlose should have fucking punted like I said. ThePAIdiot was somehow AOTC again.
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Well then you were AOTC. Draft over all of them…
They still need a shitload of players. But hey, Whitehair got some PT today....
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Your average high schooler makes this catch 8.5 times out of 10.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cWjKth9/IMG-5941.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9FFMKSG)
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Your average high schooler makes this catch 8.5 times out of 10.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cWjKth9/IMG-5941.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9FFMKSG)
Don't know about that. But a pro player....ok.
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And the blocking didn’t help at all. But IMO the Bears should have been running more to run clock. The defense was playing really well. Getsy should be fired.
But you kept telling us they were set at OL except C.
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If guys can make simple catches “thoroughly mediocre quarterback play” is fairly livable.
https://x.com/barstoolbigcat/status/1736456497100427314?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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But you kept telling us they were set at OL except C.
What I said is that the line is young and will get better. Show me one fucking post where I said it was a strong offensive line. Most likely 4 of those spots are taken for next year. I know you think this is Madden where you just replace guys on a whim, but their core offensive line is probably set. They are young. They are not a finished project.
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Don't know about that. But a pro player....ok.
It literally fell in his lap.
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If guys can make simple catches “thoroughly mediocre quarterback play” is fairly livable.
https://x.com/barstoolbigcat/status/1736456497100427314?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
You can focus on 4 throws. What about the rest of them? He was not good today.
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He’s got both forearms under it for Christ’s sake.
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It literally fell in his lap.
Yes, a pro player should have caught that 8.5 times out of 10..that was one of the 1.5 apparently.
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You can focus on 4 throws. What about the rest of them? He was not good today.
I don’t need a guy to complete 70% of his passes and be perfect every game. I just need his supporting cast to help him with the layups. His supporting cast sucks.
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He’s got both forearms under it for Christ’s sake.
Shouldn't have come to that. Next time fucking punt and make Joe Flacco and his USFL line go 80 plus yards. That was stupid.
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You can focus on 4 throws. What about the rest of them? He was not good today.
Who on the Bears offense was “good” today? Velus Jones?
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I don’t need a guy to complete 70% of his passes and be perfect every game. I just need his supporting cast to help him with the layups. His supporting cast sucks.
He sucked today too. Great 3 yard TD March which they tried to screw up
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Shouldn't have come to that. Next time fucking punt and make Joe Flacco and his USFL line go 80 plus yards. That was stupid.
Or don’t go fucking Nagy and go trickery on 4th and a half yard.
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Outscored 47-6 in the fourth quarter in the 3 biggest nut punch losses of the year
https://twitter.com/Zack_Pearson/status/1736499088210776469
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If Getsy is employed tomorrow it’s time to storm Halas Hall.
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If Getsy is employed tomorrow it’s time to storm Halas Hall.
Hey, you could load up your Uber with pissed off Bears fans and get paid to storm Halas Hall.
Do it!
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I don’t feel like it’s the end of Flus, Getsy, and Fields. I don’t think Poles is any jeopardy of losing his job though.
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I know it’s been said Fields will be successful elsewhere. Mind fuck; what if Mooney does and is successful somewhere else?! Who gets the blame then?
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Imagine the level of entitlement or cluelessness it takes to admit the playcalling sucks, the line was dominated by a great defense on the road, having multiple critical drops and being mad that the quarterback didn’t have pretty stats.
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Oh, and the running game was non-existent.
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Imagine the level of entitlement or cluelessness it takes to admit the playcalling sucks, the line was dominated by a great defense on the road, having multiple critical drops and being mad that the quarterback didn’t have pretty stats.
You are correct on all of those. Never said you weren’t.
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You can still have all of those though and believe Fields ain’t it going forward.
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Apparently you only get to use drops as an excuse if you’re Patrick Mahomes.
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Fields still hasn’t caught up to Kirk Cousins in passing yards. And he might not.
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Imagine the level of entitlement or cluelessness it takes to admit the playcalling sucks, the line was dominated by a great defense on the road, having multiple critical drops and being mad that the quarterback didn’t have pretty stats.
Imagine how delusional you'd have to be to watch the game today and think Fields was anything better than mediocre. It's legitimately nuts, I've never seen anything like it in a fanbase - he's completely insulated from ALL accountability for his play, 100% of the time. You give him credit for any positive plays, but ANYTHING that goes wrong, ever, is someone else's fault.
You count the drops against him, but not the dropped picks. Can't criticize his play because a WR dropped a pass, but he gets all the credit when he gets a fluke TD on a much bigger error from an opposing defender. We're here deflecting accountability because a WR didn't catch a flukey tipped 50/50 hail mary laying on his back in a game where he was less than 50% passing for 166 yards.
Have legitimately never seen anything like it. The standards for this guy's play are just underground.
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Justin Fields' passer rating since the Washington Commanders game, removing the two INTs today: 81.13
He just is not good in the passing game.
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DJ Moore had 4 catches for 52 yards today. That’s not enough.
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Spark spot on as usual regarding Fields.
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Hey guys, don’t worry, Darnell Mooney is a number 1 receiver. Just replace Nate Davis and we’re good.
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DJ Moore had 4 catches for 52 yards today. That’s not enough.
He clearly wasn’t 100%. Came out sometimes even in critical situations.
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Imagine how delusional you'd have to be to watch the game today and think Fields was anything better than mediocre. It's legitimately nuts, I've never seen anything like it in a fanbase - he's completely insulated from ALL accountability for his play, 100% of the time. You give him credit for any positive plays, but ANYTHING that goes wrong, ever, is someone else's fault.
You count the drops against him, but not the dropped picks. Can't criticize his play because a WR dropped a pass, but he gets all the credit when he gets a fluke TD on a much bigger error from an opposing defender. We're here deflecting accountability because a WR didn't catch a flukey tipped 50/50 hail mary laying on his back in a game where he was less than 50% passing for 166 yards.
Have legitimately never seen anything like it. The standards for this guy's play are just underground.
Spot. Fucking. On.
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Drops only count if you’re Patrick Mahomes.
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On the list of why the Bears lost today, Justin Fields doesn’t crack the top 5.
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Drops only count if you’re Patrick Mahomes.
If Pat Mahomes was under 50% passing for 166 yards and I justified his play by saying "well his receivers dropped a couple balls including this dude didn't make a miracle play on his back off a tipped Hail Mary" you would mock me for it until the end of time.
I wouldn't do that to begin with though. If he had that game I'd be like "Mahomes didn't play that well" and since it isn't Fields, my guess is you'd agree with me.
Fields is absolutely Teflon. Nothing he does, ever, can be counted against him.
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I’m not sure he cracks the top 8
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On the list of why the Bears lost today, Justin Fields doesn’t crack the top 5.
Lolwut? He quarterbacked an offense that produced eight three-and-outs. He absolutely is in the top 5. Shit, top 3 even.
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On the list of why the Bears lost today, Justin Fields doesn’t crack the top 5.
If the Bears had gotten good quarterback play today, they almost certainly win the game.
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I’m not sure he cracks the top 8
Well yeah, I don't think anyone is surprised by this dude.
You find him to be completely above all criticism in every situation. I've literally never seen a guy so consistently immune from criticism and accountability for his own play.
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Toughest defensive line (and best defensive player) in the league vs an overmatched line on the road. Bad play-calling (which you admitted) multiple critical drops. Cant run effectively at all. Poor clock management. But yeah, the quarterbacks numbers weren’t pretty and that’s why we lost. SMH
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You're obviously never going to find any criticism of the guy valid, ever. That just couldn't possibly be more clear.
It's really fucking weird. Legitimately cannot think of a single analogous situation, where every mistake and bad game someone plays is blamed on something - ANYTHING - else for multiple full seasons. Other than, as I've already mentioned, Weber.
The guy is absolute teflon.
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Tonyan and Mooney drops both win the game if caught. Bears maybe have a better chance to tie if Scott catches the 1st ball last drive. A ball even ThePAMan agreed needs to be caught. Sure, he made up for it the next catch, but critical time was lost on the drop.
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You're obviously never going to find any criticism of the guy valid, ever. That just couldn't possibly be more clear.
It's really fucking weird. Legitimately cannot think of a single analogous situation, where every mistake and bad game someone plays is blamed on something - ANYTHING - else for multiple full seasons. Other than, as I've already mentioned, Weber.
The guy is absolute teflon.
He wasn’t perfect. Or even HOF level today. He didn’t need to be. His teammates and coaches let him down. Again.
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I hope Tonyan was quoted after the game as saying “we win with better quarterback play.”
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Tonyan and Mooney drops both win the game if caught. Bears maybe have a better chance to tie if Scott catches the 1st ball last drive. A ball even ThePAMan agreed needs to be caught. Sure, he made up for it the next catch, but critical time was lost on the drop.
If we're going to count the WR drops (ignoring that one was literally a tipped hail mary with a WR falling onto his back), do we also count the two pick sixes the defense dropped?
Or do we only do the "hypothetical" thing if it confirms our biases? My guess is if I came here ranting about that sort of stuff you would make fun of me. Unfortunately, I don't need to do the hypothetical to show he hasn't been very good.
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He wasn’t perfect. Or even HOF level today. He didn’t need to be. His teammates and coaches let him down. Again.
Or replacement level.
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You are so fucking right though, Justin Fields isn’t at an All-Pro level. Launch him.
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I love how when I point out that he's completely immune to all criticism in your eyes you tried to prove me wrong by saying "he wasn't perfect, or even HOF level today".
No fucking shit?
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Or replacement level.
That’s absurd. A replacement level QB loses that game by 14 no problem.
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Tell me Derek Carr wins that game. Lol
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That’s absurd. A replacement level QB loses that game by 14 no problem.
A replacement level QB loses that game by 3.
A good QB wins it.
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I love how when I point out that he's completely immune to all criticism in your eyes you tried to prove me wrong by saying "he wasn't perfect, or even HOF level today".
No fucking shit?
You constantly let others’ off the hook. I haven’t heard one word from you about Tonyan or Mooney that I’m aware of. You did mention the play-calling sucking, but yet Fields is a loser for not overcoming that against the best D line in the league on the road. Show some reasonable fucking expectations.
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19/40, 166 passing yards, 1 TD, 0 INT.
7 carries, 30 yards.
10 offensive points, 7 of which came on a drive that started at the 2 yard line.
I think most people would agree that it's absurd to call that "replacement level" performance but I think they'd mostly mean something different than you do.
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Why is my quarterback not overcoming obviously bad coaching and drops? WTF?
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19/40, 166 passing yards, 1 TD, 0 INT.
7 carries, 30 yards.
10 offensive points, 7 of which came on a drive that started at the 2 yard line.
I think most people would agree that it's absurd to call that "replacement level" performance but I think they'd mostly mean something different than you do.
You literally have morphed into ThePAMan on this issue.
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You constantly let others’ off the hook. I haven’t heard one word from you about Tonyan or Mooney that I’m aware of. You did mention the play-calling sucking, but yet Fields is a loser for not overcoming that against the best D line in the league on the road. Show some reasonable fucking expectations.
I do.
My expectations are "a consistently good passing QB". I think those are "reasonable fucking expectations" for a QB at the end of his third season as a starter. He is not that.
It isn't anyone else's fault that your expectations for Fields are buried in the basement. My expectations are FAR more reasonable than yours - from what I can tell the criteria for you to say Fields played well enough are "he shows up to the game".
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Did you notice the completely ineffective running game? The drops? The bad play calling? Why did Justin not overcome all of this? WTF?
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You literally have morphed into ThePAMan on this issue.
If the PAMan didn't think that was a good game today by Fields, then sure.
It wasn't a very good game by Fields today. We can pretend it was, or blame everyone else, we can deflect all blame and insulate him from any criticism. None of this changes the fact that Fields didn't play a very good game today. If he did you wouldn't have to come up with a half a dozen excuses for him.
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And oh, our best WR clearly wasn’t healthy. I know, I know, more excuses!
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My bad, I said best. I should have said our “good” WR.
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Did you notice the completely ineffective running game? The drops? The bad play calling? Why did Justin not overcome all of this? WTF?
Because he isn't a very good quarterback.
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Did it ever occurs to you guys that if you were willing to spread some blame around, maybe I would be so defensive? Literally all I’ve heard for the last two years is how everything is Justin’s fault.
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Overmatched OLine, non-existent run game, multiple crucial drops, admitted bad play-calling; but let’s get mad because the QB rating wasn’t NiCE.
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Did it ever occurs to you guys that if you were willing to spread some blame around, maybe I would be so defensive? Literally all I’ve heard for the last two years is how everything is Justin’s fault.
That's funny - I pointed out the playcalling first.
You immediately started mocking me for thinking a good QB could've won the game.
You accept no criticism of Fields, ever, no matter what - so no, I don't think that if I "spread the blame around" you wouldn't be so defensive, because I did spread the blame around and you were still defensive. I'm not willing to blame Mooney for "dropping" a flukey tipped Hail Mary from his back. Would've been a hell of a play, but to put any amount of blame on him for that is absolutely fucking ridiculous and you know it.
You always are. There's always a laundry list of excuses, every single time. He's been mediocre to bad now since the Washington game, but you have at least five excuses for why and will deploy them any time someone acknowledges that he's been mediocre to bad since the Washington game.
I get it - you don't want to be wrong about Fields given how much you've dug in the last year and a half. I didn't want you to be wrong about Fields either. Unfortunately, he hasn't been very good.
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Yeah, you pointed it out first. Then proceeded to blame Fields the rest of the way. Straight out of the PAMan playbook.
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Haven't seen you drop that "the stats are the stats" line yet today - why?
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Overmatched OLine, non-existent run game, multiple crucial drops, admitted bad play-calling; but let’s get mad because the QB rating wasn’t NiCE.
Because it was terrible*
I'm not criticizing him because he wasn't perfect. I'm criticizing him because he wasn't good.
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Yeah, you pointed it out first. Then proceeded to blame Fields the rest of the way. Straight out of the PAMan playbook.
Yes - the second I put any blame on Fields, you come after me like a chihuahua because that isn't acceptable in your book. After all, a couple guys dropped passes and I already admitted the playcalling wasn't good.
Correct, a couple guys dropped passes. The playcalling wasn't good. The quarterback played poorly.
All three things are true. You only accept two of them.
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If the PAMan didn't think that was a good game today by Fields, then sure.
It wasn't a very good game by Fields today. We can pretend it was, or blame everyone else, we can deflect all blame and insulate him from any criticism. None of this changes the fact that Fields didn't play a very good game today. If he did you wouldn't have to come up with a half a dozen excuses for him.
Give me your list of reasons we lost today. In order. This should be great.
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Couldnt watch the game. Did I miss anything?
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Give me your list of reasons we lost today. In order. This should be great.
The top two reasons we lost I already gave you.
Terrible offensive playcalling, and mediocre as fuck quarterback play.
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I don’t know how you expect a high level of QB play with that play-calling, that (lack of) protection, that (lack of) run game, and multiple critical drops. And your best (only good) WR was clearly limited. It’s just not very reasonable. Joe Burrow doesn’t put up pretty stats today.
If Tonyan catches a perfectly thrown deep ball Justin’s numbers look quite a bit better.
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Joe Burrow went 14 for 31 for 82 yards against this defense this year BTW.
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I don’t know how you expect a high level of QB play with that play-calling, that (lack of) protection, that (lack of) run game, and multiple critical drops. And your best (only good) WR was clearly limited. It’s just not very reasonable. Joe Burrow doesn’t put up pretty stats today.
If Tonyan catches a perfectly thrown deep ball Justin’s numbers look quite a bit better.
And if Cleveland picks off the two balls that hit them in the hands, they look a lot worse.
I'm okay if you want to do that "if you assume everyone else plays perfectly, Fields' numbers look way better" thing - but then you have to count the times the defense fucked up plays that should've been turnovers too, right? Cleveland could've easily scored 14 more points off two pick-6's just by catching balls that hit them right in the hands.
But someone once told me, "the stats are the stats".
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Couldnt watch the game. Did I miss anything?
Nothing you didn't expect.
Fields played badly; it was everyone but Fields' fault.
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You love stats. Until you don’t (when they reflect poorly on Caleb Williams). Did you respond to the graphic of Williams leading the FBS in fumbles? Thoughts?
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Nothing you didn't expect.
Fields played badly; it was everyone but Fields' fault.
Yeah Fields isn't very good, average at best imho
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You love stats. Until you don’t (when they reflect poorly on Caleb Williams). Did you respond to the graphic of Williams leading the FBS in fumbles? Thoughts?
Something he definitely needs to clean up, no question about it. If someone said "that's no problem", I'd disagree with them. He needs to protect the ball better. He tends to carry it one handed away from his body, and that'll absolutely need to be cleaned up.
Justin Fields too, still, after 36 NFL starts - he has the worst fumble rate in NFL history (but doesn't have the volume to qualify). He fumbled twice more today. You haven't said shit about it. I laughed when I saw you posted that stat - but of course you did.
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I’ve seen Mahomes have interceptions dropped. I’m sure of it.
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I’ve seen Mahomes have interceptions dropped. I’m sure of it.
Cool. He's had lots of guys drop passes too, but still manages to be a pretty solid QB. He pretty famously lost a game a week ago because a WR was lined up offsides.
Why are you talking about Mahomes?
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How do you know they weren’t bad routes? It’s not like our receivers are consistently on top of their shit
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How do you know they weren’t bad routes? It’s not like our receivers are consistently on top of their shit
LMFAO
The lengths you will go to deflect ALL accountability from this dude legitimately make me laugh out loud.
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Couldn’t be a receivers’ fault. They are beyond reproach.
Ever watch the Kmet All22 review against Denver? All Fields’ fault!
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LMFAO
The lengths you will go to deflect ALL accountability from this dude legitimately make me laugh out loud.
The lengths you go to bash a young quarterback trying to overcome ineptness all around him is equally as laughable.
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Couldn’t be a receivers’ fault. They are beyond reproach.
Ever watch the Kmet All22 review against Denver? All Fields’ fault!
(https://i.imgur.com/DJIkoRf.gif)
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How do you know they weren’t bad routes? It’s not like our receivers are consistently on top of their shit
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YZiggnxGYTE/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Olin Kreutz had a good suggestion. Maybe don’t try the young OC with the young quarterback with the young offensive coaching staff with the defensive head coach thing again. Probably good football smarts.
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If you guys were willing to spread blame even a little bit I wouldn’t be so defensive. I get that Fields isn’t All-Pro.
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The lengths you go to bash a young quarterback trying to overcome ineptness all around him is equally as laughable.
I literally don't have to go to any lengths to criticize him. His play has been bad. The eye test, the numbers, the results - none of it has been good. An outsider would look at his play by any metric and say "man, he hasn't been very good."
If I had to stretch a mile to try to justify my opinion like you do so consistently, I'd probably at least consider changing my opinion.
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The goal isn’t to be all-pro. It’s to win the game. If Justin gets a bit more help, they win. Period.
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If you guys were willing to spread blame even a little bit I wouldn’t be so defensive. I get that Fields isn’t All-Pro.
Since I started off my posting today by criticizing the playcalling and you immediately got defensive because I also criticized Fields, I don't really believe you.
Yes, he isn't an All-Pro. No shit. He isn't even above average since those two games he went off in early October.
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The goal isn’t to be all-pro. It’s to win the game. If Justin gets a bit more help, they win. Period.
And if he plays better, they win. Period.
You simply refuse to acknowledge that he played poorly, ever, under any circumstance. Any good play, you give him full credit. Any bad play was someone else's fault. That's your default.
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You started it off that way and spent the next 7 pages railing on the quarterback. Nicely done. Very fair of you.
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You started it off that way and spent the next 7 pages railing on the quarterback. Nicely done. Very fair of you.
Because you immediately jumped to the defense of Fields the second anyone criticized him.
The playcalling was terrible today. That's why in my very first post about the game today, the first thing I said was that the playcalling was terrible.
I just also said the QB play was mediocre as fuck, so you argued with me about that for the next 7 pages. If you'd just acknowledged the obvious - that Fields was mediocre as fuck today - we wouldn't have had to argue about anything. But you refuse to, because Fields is above criticism.
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And if he plays better, they win. Period.
You simply refuse to acknowledge that he played poorly, ever, under any circumstance. Any good play, you give him full credit. Any bad play was someone else's fault. That's your default.
Again, Justin Fields is not a primary reason they lost the game. He’s probably not even a reason. I get it you want Joe Burrow. Get him the help that Joe Burrow has, then.
And you never responded to the Joe Burrow went 14 for 31 for 82 yards against Cleveland post.
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This dude literally made the photo of Mooney on the ground after failing to make a miracle, flukey play on a tipped Hail Mary his profile picture.
Hahahahahahahahahaha, Jesus.
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Again, Justin Fields is not a primary reason they lost the game. He’s probably not even a reason. I get it you want Joe Burrow. Get him the help that Joe Burrow has, then.
And you never responded to the Joe Burrow went 14 for 31 for 82 yards against Cleveland post.
Because I don't care how Joe Burrow played in week 1 against Cleveland. It isn't relevant.
Justin Fields played poorly today, and you're trying to pretend he didn't.
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Tee Higgins making the play he made yesterday and Mooney doing what he did today shows you the difference. One guy is really good, the other is mediocre. Not the first time Mooney cost us a win at the goal line.
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Tee Higgins making the play he made yesterday and Mooney doing what he did today shows you the difference. One guy is really good, the other is mediocre. Not the first time Mooney cost us a win at the goal line.
Hahahahahahahaha.
Mooney didn't make the miracle flukey play on a Hail Mary from his back! How could anyone expect Fields to be an average quarterback when guys fuck up that bad?!
Just a total clown show.
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Because I don't care how Joe Burrow played in week 1 against Cleveland. It isn't relevant.
That’s rich. Maybe too rich. And I love rich.
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Tee Higgins making the play he made yesterday and Mooney doing what he did today shows you the difference. One guy is really good, the other is mediocre. Not the first time Mooney cost us a win at the goal line.
Mooney should have caught it no doubt but let's not act like Fields dropped a dime in between all those Cleveland defenders in the end zone. It was a deflected ball on a hail mary.
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Mooney…
https://x.com/patrickfinley/status/1736521573719319041?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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This dude literally made the photo of Mooney on the ground after failing to make a miracle, flukey play on a tipped Hail Mary his profile picture.
Hahahahahahahahahaha, Jesus.
Just reminding everyone how clutch he is.
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Because I don't care how Joe Burrow played in week 1 against Cleveland. It isn't relevant.
Justin Fields played poorly today, and you're trying to pretend he didn't.
Interesting. Now give us your review on the OLine, the clock management, the run game, and the receiving performance. I wait with bated breath.
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Because I don't care how Joe Burrow played in week 1 against Cleveland. It isn't relevant.
Justin Fields played poorly today, and you're trying to pretend he didn't.
PAMan response. “I don’t care that Joe Burrow was worse. That’s not relevant.”
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Still waiting for Spark’s list of reasons for losing. In order of importance. I expect at least 5 reasons. Can’t wait to see the list.
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Interesting. Now give us your review on the OLine, the clock management, the run game, and the receiving performance. I wait with bated breath.
No you don’t. You don’t care about anything I say at all, ever. You mocked me when I actually watched tape and told you what I thought of it.
I thought the WR had a couple bad drops today, as I already said. I thought the Playcalling was bad today, as I already said. I thought the quarterback played badly today, as I already said.
You ignore that I said the first two things and use that as an excuse to refuse to acknowledge the third, but all three things are true. I have never defended the WR drops or the play calling, not once. You have spent hours defending the poor play from the QB.
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Mooney…
https://x.com/patrickfinley/status/1736521573719319041?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Catch the fucking ball man. It fell in your lap and you had your forearms under it. Dude is not a difference maker, sorry.
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Still waiting for Spark’s list of reasons for losing. In order of importance. I expect at least 5 reasons. Can’t wait to see the list.
Lol, you already ignored my top reasons two separate times. Why would I continue to play your stupid bad faith game, honestly?
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No you don’t. You don’t care about anything I say at all, ever. You mocked me when I actually watched tape and told you what I thought of it.
I thought the WR had a couple bad drops today, as I already said. I thought the Playcalling was bad today, as I already said. I thought the quarterback played badly today, as I already said.
You ignore that I said the first two things and use that as an excuse to refuse to acknowledge the third, but all three things are true. I have never defended the WR drops or the play calling, not once. You have spent hours defending the poor play from the QB.
Justin Fields isn’t why we lost. If he gets even a tiny bit more help on offense we win.
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Catch the fucking ball man. It fell in your lap and you had your forearms under it. Dude is not a difference maker, sorry.
Hahahahaha
He’s right. It was a tough play, falling backwards off a tipped Hail Mary. You don’t care though.
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Justin Fields isn’t why we lost. If he gets even a tiny bit more help on offense we win.
Or if he plays at an average NFL starters level, we win.
He did not.
I watched the game with a buddy, big Browns fan. He’s been pretty bullish that the Bears should keep Fields. After the game he told me it was time for Chicago to move on.
Anecdotal, and he isn’t a scout or GM either by any means, but that’s what the Browns fan I watched with said.
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I really do believe in my heart that if Fields went out there and went 1/22 passing with four picks but there were three drops and Getsy made a bad play call to get stuffed on fourth and one, you would spend all your time talking about Getsy and the drops and still not criticize Fields.
If you watched that game today and the harshest criticism you’re willing to provide was “he wasn’t perfect today - he wasn’t even HOF level - BUT..” then it’s pretty clear no play would be poor enough for you to criticize the guy for.
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I really do believe in my heart that if Fields went out there and went 1/22 passing with four picks but there were three drops and Getsy made a bad play call to get stuffed on fourth and one, you would spend all your time talking about Getsy and the drops and still not criticize Fields.
If you watched that game today and the harshest criticism you’re willing to provide was “he wasn’t perfect today - he wasn’t even HOF level - BUT..” then it’s pretty clear no play would be poor enough for you to criticize the guy for.
Of course…
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Or if he plays at an average NFL starters level, we win.
He did not.
I watched the game with a buddy, big Browns fan. He’s been pretty bullish that the Bears should keep Fields. After the game he told me it was time for Chicago to move on.
Anecdotal, and he isn’t a scout or GM either by any means, but that’s what the Browns fan I watched with said.
If Tonyan catches that ball no one is bitching. Cleveland gives up 159 per game in the air with a 75 passer rating. I don’t know what Fields was (the two INTs were Hail Marys, one which should have been caught for a game winning touchdown). Sorry, a good NFL receiver catches a ball that falls in his lap. The Tonyan drop cost him 60 yards and a TD (and the win), but I know I know, if Fields plays better we win. Blah blah blah puke blah blah blah.
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If Tonyan catches that ball no one is bitching. Cleveland gives up 159 per game in the air with a 75 passer rating. I don’t know what Fields was (the two INTs were Hail Marys, one which should have been caught for a game winning touchdown). Sorry, a good NFL receiver catches a ball that falls in his lap. The Tonyan drop cost him 60 yards and a TD (and the win), but I know I know, if Fields plays better we win. Blah blah blah puke blah blah blah.
Tonyan’s drop results in a win, sure - IF you only count that one, and not the multiple dropped picks. But why would one hypothetical count and the others not?
I’m fine with counting all the plays that SHOULDVE been made (which IMO does not include the tipped Hail Mary, which was a prayer for a miracle in any case), or sticking only to the plays that WERE made - but the thing where we do the hypothetical for plays that would’ve made Fields’ numbers look better and not for plays that would’ve made them look worse is stupid. Every QB would look better if you erased all the drops from his guys but left all the defensive drops as they happened.
I read that the NFL statisticians can revoke an INT in a situation like the first Hail Mary if the ball wasn’t snapped afterwards - I assume if that’s true, they will and he’ll only be credited for 1 INT since the first one obviously should’ve been incomplete. I don’t hold the last INT against Fields at all. It’s a prayer.
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Looks like the average completion rate at Cleveland for opposing quarterbacks is 53%. So not that far off of average. And again, everyone around Fields was so GOOD today. How was he not above 60?
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Looks like the average completion rate at Cleveland for opposing quarterbacks is 53%. So not that far off of average. And again, everyone around Fields was so GOOD today. How was he not above 60?
He wasn’t very good today.
That isn’t a controversial statement to anyone who isn’t more dug in on Fields than on reality.
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Mahomes never has picks dropped. Only touchdowns.
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He wasn’t very good today.
That isn’t a controversial statement to anyone who isn’t more dug in on Fields than on reality.
Apparently no one is very good at Cleveland.
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Mahomes never has picks dropped. Only touchdowns.
Is this something someone somewhere is saying, or did you just make it up?
Mahomes has the highest drop rate in the league. He has certainly had picks dropped, and also touchdowns dropped.
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He’d have been better with help that was better than pathetic.
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Is this something someone somewhere is saying, or did you just make it up?
Mahomes has the highest drop rate in the league. He has certainly had picks dropped, and also touchdowns dropped.
Mahomes suffers drops.
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He’d have been better with help that was better than pathetic.
He also could’ve just played better. But he didn’t. He played poorly.
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He also could’ve just played better. But he didn’t. He played poorly.
Derp.
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Mahomes suffers drops.
Yes, true. Why do you keep talking about it though?
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If Tonyan catches a perfectly thrown deep ball no one gives a fuck. We’re celebrating a win.
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Derp.
Good talk as always bud.
Enjoy that Weber-esque bag of excuses, I suppose. It’s almost the same as having a good quarterback.
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Yes, true. Why do you keep talking about it though?
To expose your obvious bias.
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If Tonyan catches a perfectly thrown deep ball no one gives a fuck. We’re celebrating a win.
And if the Browns catch the easy pick sixes we’re here and you’re making excuses for Fields and we’re bummed at a loss, just like now.
Neither thing happened though so we’re stuck talking about the stuff that actually did.
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To expose your obvious bias.
Uh. Okay.
Next time Mahomes has a game like this and I defend it by saying BUT HE HAD RECEIVERS DROP PASSES feel free to dunk on how stupid that is, I guess. That isn’t a thing I’m going to do though probably. Every QB in the league has dudes drop passes (and DBs drop picks).
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Mahomes throws balls that nearly get picked. Are they fucking saying “yeah, but what about the near picks?” When they win. No. I hear he also suffers drops.
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Uh. Okay.
Next time Mahomes has a game like this and I defend it by saying BUT HE HAD RECEIVERS DROP PASSES feel free to dunk on how stupid that is, I guess. That isn’t a thing I’m going to do though probably. Every QB in the league has dudes drop passes (and DBs drop picks).
Dude, Fields put up better numbers against Denver in one game than Mahomes did in two (Mahomes sucked against Denver). But for some reason Fields’ game was against a weak opponent and Mahomes’ 2 mediocre games against them don’t really seem to count.
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Fields wasn’t “awesome,” today, but no one on the offense was. I struggle to think of anyone else that was even halfway decent. A hobbled DJ who wasn’t on the field in critical situations I guess.
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Mahomes throws balls that nearly get picked. Are they fucking saying “yeah, but what about the near picks?” When they win. No. I hear he also suffers drops.
I haven’t seen anyone justify a poor game of his by saying “yeah but if his WRs hadn’t dropped a couple passes”. If I had I’d have said the same thing. Every QB has dudes drop passes. Mahomes had dudes drop passes in his MVP years too.
I’m fine with you counting the drops, but if you’re going to count the offensive drops you obviously have to count the defensive drops too. He missed out on a TD and two pick sixes today with drops, but you insist that only the TD drop should count. Be consistent.
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Fields wasn’t “awesome,” today, but no one on the offense was. I struggle to think of anyone else that was even halfway decent. A hobbled DJ who wasn’t on the field in critical situations I guess.
Fields wasn’t perfect, Hall of Fame level, or “awesome” today. I mean, at least we agree on those things hahaha. To call that “lukewarm criticism” is to stretch the meaning of the word “criticism” beyond recognition.
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Still waiting on the list of reasons we lost the game. In order of importance.
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PAMan response. “I don’t care that Joe Burrow was worse. That’s not relevant.”
Joe Burrow does not play for the Bear.
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Still waiting on the list of reasons we lost the game. In order of importance.
Defense
Offense
Special Teams
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Dude, Fields put up better numbers against Denver in one game than Mahomes did in two (Mahomes sucked against Denver). But for some reason Fields’ game was against a weak opponent and Mahomes’ 2 mediocre games against them don’t really seem to count.
Let us know when Fields gets to Super Bowls. Plural.
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Still waiting on the list of reasons we lost the game. In order of importance.
Terrible offensive play calling and mediocre as fuck QB play. That hasn’t changed or anything, you’ve just ignored it. This is the fourth time I’ve posted it. Those were the main reasons we lost - terrible play calling and mediocre QB play. The defense played well enough to win. The offense did not.
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If Tonyan catches a perfectly thrown deep ball no one gives a fuck. We’re celebrating a win.
Not necessarily true, but ok.
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If Tonyan catches that ball no one is bitching. Cleveland gives up 159 per game in the air with a 75 passer rating. I don’t know what Fields was (the two INTs were Hail Marys, one which should have been caught for a game winning touchdown). Sorry, a good NFL receiver catches a ball that falls in his lap. The Tonyan drop cost him 60 yards and a TD (and the win), but I know I know, if Fields plays better we win. Blah blah blah puke blah blah blah.
The Cleveland D is banged up and has been giving up, what, 25 per game the last 3 to 4 weeks?
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Interesting. Now give us your review on the OLine, the clock management, the run game, and the receiving performance. I wait with bated breath.
For a guy who 24 hours ago mocked the notion that they need OL, you now sure think they suck.
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The Cleveland D is banged up and has been giving up, what, 25 per game the last 3 to 4 weeks?
Saw a thing the other day that in the last five games they were 27th in PPG, 26th in QBR allowed, and 19th in sack rate.
A great defense though, no doubt about it. Garrett is an absolute beast.
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Dude, Fields put up better numbers against Denver in one game than Mahomes did in two (Mahomes sucked against Denver). But for some reason Fields’ game was against a weak opponent and Mahomes’ 2 mediocre games against them don’t really seem to count.
Would you take Mahomes over Fields? Do you see how stupid this sounds? Also there’s a reason people feel the way they do about these two and they’re drastically different.
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Sounds like here. I like Trey…
https://x.com/treygriffy/status/1736525897857917036?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Dude, Fields put up better numbers against Denver in one game than Mahomes did in two (Mahomes sucked against Denver). But for some reason Fields’ game was against a weak opponent and Mahomes’ 2 mediocre games against them don’t really seem to count.
Of course it counts. Mahomes played badly against Denver, I've certainly never said otherwise. We're not arguing about whether Mahomes is worth keeping (and if we were, it wouldn't be much of an argument).
"Mahomes played badly against them" wasn't an answer to the question I was asking you though, which was "is Denver a good passing defense?" You knew the answer was "no" obviously, but you couldn't say that because you can't admit the truth if it might undercut your preconception so you started trying to deflect with Mahomes' stats. Like you literally couldn't even say, "no, Denver isn't a very good passing defense" because Fields had a good game against them.
Denver's passing defense isn't very good though, regardless of what they did against Mahomes. We can pretend otherwise, if you'd like, but that is still true. They're 7th worst in completion%, 7th worst in yards per attempt, 8th worst in total yards, and 5th worst in passing TD. Those numbers include the two games against Mahomes. They are not a very good passing defense.
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TD drops? They don’t factor in to Fields’ play. Near INTs? Oh, those factor in alright!
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TD drops? They don’t factor in to Fields’ play. Near INTs? Oh, those factor in alright!
Is this something someone somewhere is saying? Or did you make it up?
I've said pretty explicitly a few times, I'm fine with counting neither or both. Counting one and not the other is obviously stupid.
I don't think the 'near INTs' count any more or less than the offensive drops. They're both plays that should've been made, but were not.
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Sounds like here. I like Trey…
https://x.com/treygriffy/status/1736525897857917036?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Trey knows how to use the most base stats to make a stupid argument. Yay for Trey. Look at Fields’ numbers compared to other QBs who’ve played at Cleveland this year. They’re about average. And when you factor in drops they would have been significantly better. How many of those incompletions were throwaways? Was Fields great today? No. But he was better than probably anyone else on the offense. Including his coach.
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At least this is fair criticism. This is from a scout, who probably wouldn’t be quick to call out coaching. Particularly from a team he used to work for.
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It’s Fields’ fault, Obvi!
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https://x.com/fieldsszn69/status/1736455622004973639?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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At least this is fair criticism. This is from a scout, who probably wouldn’t be quick to call out coaching. Particularly from a team he used to work for.
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Well, he is a former scout, but the fact is that Fields has not progressed as hoped. Who is at fault? Everyone, including Fields.
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It’s Fields’ fault, Obvi!
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They said with the wind, they were 8 yards out of his range.
It's fair to criticize them for not going deeper on the plays leading up to that, for sure.
You continually try to pretend others want to blame EVERYTHING on Fields, but that's absolutely false. The reality is that, most of us want to blame Fields' play on Fields, but you insist that no one blame any thing on Fields, ever - including his play.
If after the game I'd said "The Bears defense played well enough to win but were held back by terrible playcalling and mediocre as fuck QB play" and you'd said "yep, rough day from Getsy and Fields" then we could've shaken on it and moved on. But you cannot stomach anyone criticizing Fields ever, for anything, period - so you've spent the 4 hours since arguing that Fields wasn't actually mediocre and that if he looked like he was, it was everyone else's fault. You obviously have lost the thread, you're completely unreasonable regarding Fields at this point. Simply completely unwilling to accept any criticism of him for anything he does at any point.
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Tempo trotting out all the usual The Score Suspects. Awesome.
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https://x.com/emmanuelacho/status/1736461552268509263?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I haven't seen a single person criticizing him because he didn't bail us out with 30 seconds to go. That's just a convenient strawman for people who don't want to talk about how he actually played today.
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They said with the wind, they were 8 yards out of his range.
It's fair to criticize them for not going deeper on the plays leading up to that, for sure.
You continually try to pretend others want to blame EVERYTHING on Fields, but that's absolutely false. The reality is that, most of us want to blame Fields' play on Fields, but you insist that no one blame any thing on Fields, ever - including his play.
If after the game I'd said "The Bears defense played well enough to win but were held back by terrible playcalling and mediocre as fuck QB play" and you'd said "yep, rough day from Fields" then we could've shaken on it and moved on. But you cannot stomach anyone criticizing Fields ever, for anything, period - so you've spent the 4 hours since arguing that Fields wasn't actually mediocre and that if he looked like he was, it was everyone else's fault. You obviously have lost the thread, you're completely unreasonable regarding Fields at this point. Simply completely unwilling to accept any criticism of him for anything he does at any point.
Jones #93 covering the TE on the Zone Blitz did not work out, that is for sure.
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https://x.com/emmanuelacho/status/1736461552268509263?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
It was a great play, no doubt.
Holding onto a guy who's started 36 games because of the plays he CAN make instead of the type of plays he makes with consistency is a good way to totally fuck up your football team's future in the long term. This is exactly the kind of play Caleb Williams CAN make, without question - whether he will be able to reign it in and make the regular plays consistently is the question. Fields has not done that.
We're still talking about ceiling for a guy who has started THIRTY SIX NFL GAMES. It defies all logic.
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Rough. Pressured with 3 man rush.
https://x.com/chicago_jay1/status/1736498588971077833?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Rough. Pressure with 3 man rush.
https://x.com/chicago_jay1/status/1736498588971077833?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Do you search on X for "excuses for Fields" or what? Like, it's crazy how you can just run out a never-ending list of excuses for the guy for months.
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Trey knows how to use the most base stats to make a stupid argument. Yay for Trey. Look at Fields’ numbers compared to other QBs who’ve played at Cleveland this year. They’re about average. And when you factor in drops they would have been significantly better. How many of those incompletions were throwaways? Was Fields great today? No. But he was better than probably anyone else on the offense. Including his coach.
The stats are the stats……………… a few EXTRA dots, wait for it……………………….. until they’re not…
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When you've fallen to this level, you can't even see the light anymore.
This shit is pathetic man. You're better than this. No one thinks Caleb Williams makes Mooney make the miracle play here. Zero people. It was a prayer, no matter who threw it.
But I guess at the end of the day, if you can't trust @FieldsGoatQB1 on Twitter, who really counts as a credible source?
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I apologize guys, I said Fields had a 60 yard TD dropped. It was an 80 yard TD (that was perfect 60 yards downfield). Play better, Justin.
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I apologize guys, I said Fields had a 60 yard TD dropped. It was an 80 yard TD (that was perfect 60 yards downfield). Play better, Justin.
Maybe time to grow up a little Tempo? You're melting down like a 6 year old right now.
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When you've fallen to this level, you can't even see the light anymore.
This shit is pathetic man. You're better than this. No one thinks Caleb Williams makes Mooney make the miracle play here. Zero people. It was a prayer, no matter who threw it.
Yeah, it’s sarcasm.
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Yeah, it’s sarcasm.
It's stupid as fuck, and extremely childish. You're better than this tantrum meltdown you're in the middle of, I think.
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It's stupid as fuck, and extremely childish. You're better than this tantrum meltdown you're in the middle of, I think.
For some reason you keep making excuses for him (and none of us) and it’s weird. It’s almost like you defend him like he defends Fields…😁
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https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/bears-offensive-problems-vs-browns-indicative-of-larger-non-justin-fields-issue/526218/
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https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/bears-offensive-problems-vs-browns-indicative-of-larger-non-justin-fields-issue/526218/
Thought this article was super fair - anybody who looked at the game today and thought Fields was the ONLY problem on offense is just as full of shit as the people who want Fields to be immune from all criticism. He wasn't the only problem, and I never said or implied he was (you treat me like I'm saying that, though). The running game wasn't good, the playcalling was bad - no doubt. There was a reason I mentioned the playcalling first, and in more forceful terms, when I listed the 'reasons' for the loss today.
But among the very biggest problems with the offense, as your article seems to acknowledge (but you never do) is that Fields was mediocre. Again. This is the third week in a row you've had to try to put lipstick on a pig in the passing game, and a big thing I wanted to see this year given the potential to pick a top QB was to see him be better than that as a passer consistently. Given that he's basically played anywhere close to the level I'd like to see from him consistently only a few times all year - and frankly, not for a few weeks now - it's going to be hard for him to pass that 'consistency test'. I thought this week was a great test re: Fields, to play against a talented defense that actually hasn't been playing all that well the last few weeks. But here I am again, with you explaining to me Fields played poorly because of other people.
The Tonyan drop sucked today. That's a tough one. They happen to everyone sometimes, but that's a tough one. It's an opportunity Fields took advantage of, but that was lost through someone else's poor play. But he also had at least two balls today that looked like easy picks and were missed. He fumbled twice. He made the Jameis Winston "just launch it in the air while you're wrapped up" play that drives me so crazy at least once. Those were mistakes of Fields' that weren't taken advantage of, that were lost through someone else's poor play.
I'm not okay with as you say "expecting perfection" from the receivers (i.e., 'what are his numbers and the score like with an 80 yard TD added?') while not also "expecting perfection" from the defense you're hyping up so much (i.e. 'what are his numbers and the score like with at least one pick six and another INT with a long return?'). Either add both hypotheticals, or neither.
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He didn’t lose any fumbles and the one on the sideline didn’t even look like a fumble. The ground caused it IMO. He didn’t turn the ball over today (but there were some almost turnovers!).
This is fair.
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Add in an 80 yard touchdown pass and take away two bullshit Hail Mary INTs and I bet he had the best day a visiting quarterback has had all year. On a wet and windy field.
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Add in an 80 yard touchdown pass and take away two bullshit Hail Mary INTs and I bet he had the best day a visiting quarterback has had all year. On a wet and windy field.
But also add a couple more INTs. This is my point.
I'm not saying to take away the INTs on his record - I think it's very fair to say that neither INT, even the one that actually was intercepted (lol), was his 'fault' or anything he did wrong - they're Hail Marys. No problem with him on either Hail Mary play (the game plan/play calling that led to that point, on the other hand, I had a lot of problem with), whether they're picks or not. They're just prayers. That's why they call it a Hail Mary. Like criticizing someone for not making a half court shot at the buzzer.
But you're demanding perfection from his WR - every drop is an excuse. So isn't it only fair that you also acknowledge "if any fuck up by someone else is an excuse then you have to include the fuck ups that saved him from a couple other INTs"?
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MVP favorite Brock Purdy’s day in Cleveland this year.
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MVP favorite Brock Purdy’s day in Cleveland this year.
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Wasn't that BEFORE Cleveland had guys going down faster than a 20 dollar lady of the evening?
As Spark noted, the Brown D has not been that good the last month plus... until today. Hmmmmm....
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MVP favorite Brock Purdy’s day in Cleveland this year.
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If I cherry picked a mediocre QB who had a good game, or a terrible one who had a game similar to Fields' today - would it convince you that their defense wasn't that good?
I think their defense overall has been pretty good. As your article pointed out, good offenses - actually, even a few mediocre offenses - have scored on them quite a bit this year. I didn't think it was out of the question that Fields looked good coming into today, although I expected a game more like what we got.
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Cherry picked. Lol ok
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For some reason you keep making excuses for him (and none of us) and it’s weird. It’s almost like you defend him like he defends Fields…😁
Interesting observation there, Judge Judy....
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Their defense has been much better at home.
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Cherry picked. Lol ok
So they have not been giving up over 25 points a game the last 5 games until today?
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It would be hard for that comparison to be less cherry picked.
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So they have not been giving up over 25 points a game the last 5 games until today?
If Tonyan didn’t suck the Bears put up at least 24 on a wet and windy day.
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Their defense has been much better at home.
They gave up 27 to the Jags at home just a week ago and Lawrence sucks, according to you.
Now they did hold the Steeler to 10 points at home, a month ago .
Bears offense is like the Steeler O, so that makes sense.
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If Tonyan didn’t suck the Bears put up at least 24 on a wet and windy day.
The defense scored 7 and there was that 3 yard TD March.
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I never said Lawrence sucks. Perhaps you don’t understand sarcasm. He also threw 3 picks. He’s also got a real offense around him.
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Cherry picked. Lol ok
What would you call it where you pick out one example that confirms your bias and ignore some that don't?
They're a good defense. They have not been that good a defense lately. They got Ward back recently (today, maybe?) and that probably helps quite a bit.
By scoring, they're a middle of the pack defense (14), giving up 20.9 PPG coming into today.
They were giving up 15.4 PPG coming after 5 games, and they've given up 24.375 points per game in the last 8 coming into today. That last 8 number includes a shutout against Arizona but also 38 to the Colts, 29 to the Broncos, 36 to the Rams, and 27 to the Jaguars.
They're definitely talented, but they haven't really been shutting teams down or anything. The Bears offense just didn't look good (including the coaching, running game, receivers, and yes - quarterback). At some point I think Fields deserves blame for his part of that, even if it isn't all his fault by any means.
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The defense scored 7 and there was that 3 yard TD March.
Yeah that’s true. Field still wasn’t close to being the biggest problem with the Bears today.
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Yeah that’s true. Field still wasn’t close to being the biggest problem with the Bears today.
They had a lot of problems today. Not punting was the largest, but you said to go for it after a "LOL" for properly suggesting they punt. LOL. OL sucked, after you claimed they were set at OL except C. LOL. Defense at the end was very Illinois-ish after you said they were set on DL and LB. LOL.
Epic fails on your hot takes the past 24 hours.
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1) go for it (but not with a bullshit Nagy call)
2) FG (unless it was definitely out of range, but I want to say it was like 49 yards?
3) punt. Nobody punts from the 30 somethin these days
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1) go for it (but not with a bullshit Nagy call)
2) FG (unless it was definitely out of range, but I want to say it was like 49 yards?
3) punt. Nobody punts from the 30 somethin these days
The DL was stuffing them in the middle all day. The OL sucks. The defense had been doing well and had been effective deep in the Brown end. As I said at the time, punt.
I was proven right.
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Just read Santos is 5 of 5 from 50+ this year.
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The DL was stuffing them in the middle all day. The OL sucks. The defense had been doing well and had been effective deep in the Brown end. As I said at the time, punt.
It was less than a yard. If you don’t believe you can get that up the middle get the fuck out of coaching.
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Just read Santos is 5 of 5 from 50+ this year.
Haven't you been talking about the playing conditions re: Fields for a while?
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It was less than a yard. If you don’t believe you can get that up the middle get the fuck out of coaching.
.. what if you can't?
Haven't you also been talking about how badly the Bears need a better center?
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Just read Santos is 5 of 5 from 50+ this year.
There was wind and rain. You would think they watched him kick before the game and at half. He misses and they are in even better field position.
The NFL is not a video game where you can set a No Weather setting.
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Call a sneak. If it fails, no one cries about it because it’s such a high success play. You went with the percentages, but no, we fucking Nagy’d it.
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It was less than a yard. If you don’t believe you can get that up the middle get the fuck out of coaching.
Uh, they had the ball at the one and could not punch it in.
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There was wind and rain. You would think they watched him kick before the game and at half. He misses and they are in even better field position.
The NFL is not a video game where you can set a No Weather setting.
So wind and rain makes kicking and throwing more difficult? Got it.
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Call a sneak. If it fails, no one cries about it because it’s such a high success play. You went with the percentages, but no, we fucking Nagy’d it.
Already forgot what happened on that 3 yard TD March? LOL.
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So wind and rain makes kicking and throwing more difficult? Got it.
For a 50 yard FG? Definitely.
Fucking hilarious.
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Uh, they had the ball at the one and could not punch it in.
Goal line is always the toughest yard. If you want to play it safe, you still sneak it. No one will call you out for running a high percentage play. They will call you out if you Nagy it.
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This is fucking insane.
I have to imagine this is how The Fields Cult is acting on The Twitter today.
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Goal line is always the toughest yard. If you want to play it safe, you still sneak it. No one will call you out for running a high percentage play. They will call you out if you Nagy it.
LOL.
Way to turn the momentum around. I texted you that at the time.
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Kickers were 3 for 3 today. Also perfect on EPs. Santos had a 41 yarder that had plenty of leg.
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This is fucking insane.
I have to imagine this is how The Fields Cult is acting on The Twitter today.
Ok Jobu.
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Kickers were 3 for 3 today. Also perfect on EPs. Santos had a 41 yarder that had plenty of leg.
Was not the same end of the stadium. This was at the same end where they eschewed the FG at the end of the half. Thought I heard that they thought with the wind they needed extra 8 yards than normal to kick.
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Ok Jobu.
In this context, I'll take it as a compliment.
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Still probably should kick it. Better chance than a Hail Mary connecting,
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As Spark said, if they went up the middle and didn't make it you would have been pissed they didn't run him outside.
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In this context, I'll take it as a compliment.
Twitter. Parkins. Pwned.
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Still probably should kick it. Better chance than a Hail Mary connecting,
If you don’t believe you know where you need to get for your FG kicker to be successful in the current weather conditions, get the fuck out of coaching.
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Twitter. Parkins. Pwned.
Ok. Whatever that means.
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As Spark said, if they went up the middle and didn't make it you would have been pissed they didn't run him outside.
Doubtful. I love my power football on 4th and inches. Nagy running the sideways shit drove me nuts. I specifically remember a visceral reaction to Olin a few years back when he said “Nagy would rather try to trick you than beat you straight up. “ I was sick to my stomach in agreement.
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Doubtful. I love my power football on 4th and inches. Nagy running the sideways shit drove me nuts. I specifically remember a visceral reaction to Olin a few years back when he said “Nagy would rather try to trick you than beat you straight up. “ I was sick to my stomach in agreement.
LOL..all you have done is shit on the OL and now you want power football. Some great lack of consistency in arguments you have been putting forth today.
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The former football player(and meatball) in me thinks you’ve got to have a short memory on 4th and a yard and believe you can get it going straight into the pile.
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I think it’s critical a coach believe in his team, too. I’m pretty sure they probably groan inside when they hear the call is going sideways.
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As Spark said, if they went up the middle and didn't make it you would have been pissed they didn't run him outside.
When did I say this?
I was just surprised to see the "run it up the middle" thing given he's said a number of times they have a weak center.
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When did I say this?
I was just surprised to see the "run it up the middle" thing given he's said a number of times they have a weak center.
I’d bet a million dollars JJ said it.
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When did I say this?
I was just surprised to see the "run it up the middle" thing given he's said a number of times they have a weak center.
Actually it was probably Judge Judy who said it....
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I’d bet a million dollars JJ said it.
I now think so too
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When did I say this?
I was just surprised to see the "run it up the middle" thing given he's said a number of times they have a weak center.
You can run between the guard and tackle. That’s still pretty well up the middle. It’s not going sideways.
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You can run between the guard and tackle. That’s still pretty well up the middle. It’s not going sideways.
They were blowing them up in short yardage situations but yeah, why not keep doing it?
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I’ve also seen Brady take a sneak and dip toward the guard.
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Why not just tush push it, the Bears have shown it before.
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They were blowing them up in short yardage situations but yeah, why not keep doing it?
Because it’s not bullshit Nagy ball. Gotta have faith your team can get a half yard, if you don’t quit.
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Why not just tush push it, the Bears have shown it before.
You are just going to conveniently ignore all your comments since Noon about the OL aren't you?
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Because it’s not bullshit Nagy ball. Gotta have faith your team can get a half yard, if you don’t quit.
To answer my own question, "Yes, you are going to ignore all your critical comments about the OL since Noon today."
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You are just going to conveniently ignore all your comments since Noon about the OL aren't you?
So running side to side where the DLine has even more time to react is automatically better? Not in my opinion.
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So running side to side where the DLine has even more time to react is automatically better? Not in my opinion.
I would have forgone the run in those situations. Neither team seemed effective on x down and short today. I think I made that comment to you via text when the Brown was failing to convert in those situations as well.
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When you need a half yard, it is better to try to beat them to the punch even if they are better, than to give them time to see what’s going on and react.
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When you need a half yard, it is better to try to beat them to the punch even if they are better, than to give them time to see what’s going on and react.
Except we saw exaxtly what happened when they had the ball at the 3, 1.5, and 1 yard lines earlier in the game....
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Read someone claim Flacco has had more games with 250 passing yards and 2 touchdowns in the last 3 weeks than Fields has had in his entire career.
To be fair, Flacco got to rack up over 200 yards in the 4th quarter today playing against an Eberlose defense. Fields doesn't get that luxury.
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Read someone claim Flacco has had more games with 250 passing yards and 2 touchdowns in the last 3 weeks than Fields has had in his entire career.
To be fair, Flacco got to rack up over 200 yards in the 4th quarter today playing against an Eberlose defense. Fields doesn't get that luxury.
The same Flacco that was sitting on a couch less than a month ago no less and already has more 300 yard games than Fields does in three years.
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Except we saw exaxtly what happened when they had the ball at the 3, 1.5, and 1 yard lines earlier in the game....
Marshawn Lynch was zero for five on the season from the one the year they lost the Super Bowl to the patriots but everyone insists they should’ve ran it. You’ve got to have faith that you can get a half a yard, if you don’t get out of football
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3oO yArD GAmE boYz
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AnOthER fIelDs loSS, boYz.
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AnOthER fIelDs loSS, boYz.
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He lost it for them.
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He lost it for them.
According to O'B, Sweat was not on the field for the 51 yard TD pass with 3:08 to go....must have been too tired from running past those USFL linemen for the Brown..
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(https://i.postimg.cc/SQXtF9dW/IMG-5957.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXSY1vhT)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/SQXtF9dW/IMG-5957.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXSY1vhT)
was that from shortly after throwing the ball into quintuple coverage?
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It was a tipped Hail Mary and some fans are so dug in on Fields they’re hammering Mooney for not making a miraculous play falling backwards.
He made a hell of a play to even be in the position shown in that image (he is falling backwards and reacting to a tipped ball but still uses his hands to keep it off the ground), but must protect Fields at all costs.
For all the talk about how terrible Mooney is, he was a 1000 yard guy with a rookie Fields and the corpse of Andy Dalton throwing to him. He isn’t great by any stretch but he isn’t unplayably terrible either. That narrative wouldn’t exist if they weren’t in full cultist mode.
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Lol @ “miraculous”
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It was a tipped Hail Mary and some fans are so dug in on Fields they’re hammering Mooney for not making a miraculous play falling backwards.
He made a hell of a play to even be in the position shown in that image (he is falling backwards and reacting to a tipped ball but still uses his hands to keep it off the ground), but must protect Fields at all costs.
For all the talk about how terrible Mooney is, he was a 1000 yard guy with a rookie Fields and the corpse of Andy Dalton throwing to him. He isn’t great by any stretch but he isn’t unplayably terrible either. That narrative wouldn’t exist if they weren’t in full cultist mode.
“Hell of a play just to be in position.” Lololololololol
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He seems to have regressed.
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He can be on your team. I wouldn’t count on him to be a difference making player. It’s not the first time he choked at the goal line to win a game. That would have been a pretty incredible play, but the difficulty of the catch wasn’t great. He literally had his forearms under it. DK Metcalf makes that catch 99 out of 100 times.
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“Hell of a play just to be in position.” Lololololololol
Absolutely.
https://www.tiktok.com/@nfl/video/7313679880061799723
Here's the video. He's falling backwards off balance, reaches out with one hand (otherwise it hits the ground incomplete) and almost makes the play. You're hammering him as if this is an easy play. It's absolute lunacy, obviously, but like 80% of what you post here to defend Fields is absolute lunacy at this point.
Mooney almost made a hell of a play, but couldn't hold on. Not sure what to say about anyone pretending otherwise; they either can't see, or they're not being very honest about the play for SOME reason...
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He can be on your team. I wouldn’t count on him to be a difference making player. It’s not the first time he choked at the goal line to win a game. That would have been a pretty incredible play, but the difficulty of the catch wasn’t great. He literally had his forearms under it. DK Metcalf makes that catch 99 out of 100 times.
Only if Metcalf can manage to stay in the game....
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He can be on your team. I wouldn’t count on him to be a difference making player. It’s not the first time he choked at the goal line to win a game. That would have been a pretty incredible play, but the difficulty of the catch wasn’t great. He literally had his forearms under it. DK Metcalf makes that catch 99 out of 100 times.
No one on Earth or in NFL history catches that ball 99/100 times.
It was catchable, but it'd have been a hell of a play for literally anyone.
To even be in the position to "have his forearms under it", Mooney made an amazing play off balance falling on his back to reach out an arm and keep it off the turf. Pretty clear in the video that he made a hell of a play to even be in a position to potentially hang on.
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Absolutely.
https://www.tiktok.com/@nfl/video/7313679880061799723
Here's the video. He's falling backwards off balance, reaches out with one hand (otherwise it hits the ground incomplete) and almost makes the play. You're hammering him as if this is an easy play. It's absolute lunacy, obviously, but like 80% of what you post here to defend Fields is absolute lunacy at this point.
Mooney almost made a hell of a play, but couldn't hold on. Not sure what to say about anyone pretending otherwise; they either can't see, or they're not being very honest about the play for SOME reason...
He's falling backwards while trying to lean forward to catch the ball....
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Only if Metcalf can manage to stay in the game....
Needs too many breaks. Maybe he and Sweat can team up.
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRcNoMG2/
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He's falling backwards while trying to lean forward to catch the ball....
If any other Bears quarterback throws that pass you’d be bashing Mooney relentlessly. You’re fooling no one. Well maybe your lackeys here. But that’s it.
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No one on Earth or in NFL history catches that ball 99/100 times.
It was catchable, but it'd have been a hell of a play for literally anyone.
To even be in the position to "have his forearms under it", Mooney made an amazing play off balance falling on his back to reach out an arm and keep it off the turf. Pretty clear in the video that he made a hell of a play to even be in a position to potentially hang on.
Amazing play to bobble it and kick it to the defender when he had it 80% corralled! Amazing play! JFC you don’t see how ridiculous you sound right now?
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If any other Bears quarterback throws that pass you’d be bashing Mooney relentlessly. You’re fooling no one. Well maybe your lackeys here. But that’s it.
Anyone who bashes a QB (any QB) for a Hail Mary incompletion or INT is being exactly as stupid as the people bashing Mooney for not making a miracle play falling onto his back. No more, no less.
They call it a Hail Mary for a reason.
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If you want to say “that’s not an easy catch,” fuck, I’ll give that to you. But spare me the “Amazing play just to be in position!” Good Lord.
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Amazing play to bobble it and kick it to the defender when he had it 80% corralled! Amazing play! JFC you don’t see how ridiculous you sound right now?
Er, I see how ridiculous YOU sound right now trying to criticize this dude for not making a miracle play falling backwards on a tipped Hail Mary.
It's an absolutely laughable, absurdist criticism. You don't accept any criticism, no matter how valid, of Justin Fields but you're hammering Mooney for this? Just could not be more clear that you have lost the thread. You don't even know what reasonable looks like if you're willing to make some of the arguments you've made since that game ended yesterday. Like completely in crazy town stuff. It's hard to even have a real discussion with you about it.
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Anyone who bashes a QB (any QB) for a Hail Mary incompletion or INT is being exactly as stupid as the people bashing Mooney for not making a miracle play falling onto his back. No more, no less.
They call it a Hail Mary for a reason.
Who was bashing the quarterback for Hail Mary INTs? Wasn’t this guy. WTF are you talking about?
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If you want to say “that’s not an easy catch,” fuck, I’ll give that to you. But spare me the “Amazing play just to be in position!” Good Lord.
Sorry - in the future I will lie to you like you lie to yourself to protect the QB from any criticism whatsoever.
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Who was bashing the quarterback for Hail Mary INTs? Wasn’t this guy. WTF are you talking about?
You literally just said PAMan would.
If he did, he'd be behaving exactly as stupidly as the people hammering Mooney for not making the miracle play are right now.
It's a prayer. He threw a 500 ball. Mooney almost made an amazing play off a tipped ball to come up with a win, but couldn't.
Literally if not for Justin Fields that statement simply isn't controversial at all.
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He had it in his arms. Would have been a MIRACLE to keep it there. I saw better catches on a daily basis in high school football practice. Steve Bennett had incredible concentration.
Again, want to call it a tough play? Sure. “Miracle” or “Amazing just to be in position?” Please.
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He seems to have regressed.
Would you be open to considering the notion that his regression could be at least in part being moved from WR1 to WR2 for a guy who seems to struggle to make reads and progress through the options?
When he was Fields’ WR1 he looked at least solid. Not a true WR1, but better than he does. I’m not saying it’s all Fields’ fault, but it’s at least possible that Fields’ processing issues have played into Mooney’s struggles.
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You literally just said PAMan would.
If he did, he'd be behaving exactly as stupidly as the people hammering Mooney for not making the miracle play are right now.
It's a prayer. He threw a 500 ball. Mooney almost made an amazing play off a tipped ball to come up with a win, but couldn't.
Literally if not for Justin Fields that statement simply isn't controversial at all.
You read it wrong. I said he’d be bashing Mooney if Bagent or another Bears quarterback threw that pass. He’d be bashing Mooney for the drop. But since Fields threw it he gives him a pass. It’s not hard to see through the bullshit.
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He had it in his arms. Would have been a MIRACLE to keep it there. I saw better catches on a daily basis in high school football practice. Steve Bennett had incredible concentration.
Again, want to call it a tough play? Sure. “Miracle” or “Amazing just to be in position?” Please.
Sorry. In the future I’ll lie to protect your feelings.
I think most people wouldn’t think it was controversial to say a catch made falling backwards off a tip on a Hail Mary would’ve been pretty miraculous, but you’re in the process of updating the standards for the entire history of football to protect Fields from all criticism so obviously there’s no point in acknowledging reality.
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You read it wrong. I said he’d be bashing Mooney if Bagent or another Bears quarterback threw that pass. He’d be bashing Mooney for the drop. But since Fields threw it he gives him a pass. It’s not hard to see through the bullshit.
Ahh my bad for misreading - then again, that would be exactly as idiotic as someone bashing Mooney for it when Fields threw it. No more, no less.
Is it safe to assume that if it was Bagent rather than Fields you’d be more reasonable about it?
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If any other Bears quarterback throws that pass you’d be bashing Mooney relentlessly. You’re fooling no one. Well maybe your lackeys here. But that’s it.
I have lackeys? Awesome! Who are they?
I doubt Bagent can throw the ball that far.
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Ahh my bad for misreading - then again, that would be exactly as idiotic as someone bashing Mooney for it when Fields threw it. No more, no less.
Is it safe to assume that if it was Bagent rather than Fields you’d be more reasonable about it?
No, he would be defending Mooney for not making the play if Bagent threw it.
We all know how this works.
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I mean, not bashing a guy for not making that play is the reasonable stance. Bashing a guy for not making that play is unreasonable, no matter who the QB is. Would’ve been an amazing, SC Top-10 type play.
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Ahh my bad for misreading - then again, that would be exactly as idiotic as someone bashing Mooney for it when Fields threw it. No more, no less.
Is it safe to assume that if it was Bagent rather than Fields you’d be more reasonable about it?
I’d be asking myself why our playmakers consistently cant make game winning plays.
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I mean, not bashing a guy for not making that play is the reasonable stance. Bashing a guy for not making that play is unreasonable, no matter who the QB is. Would’ve been an amazing, SC Top-10 type play.
Sure, but not because of some miraculous difficulty of the catch. Easy catch? No. Makeable? Absolutely. That catch makes SportsCenter because it would have been a game winner.
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I’d be asking myself why our playmakers consistently cant make game winning plays.
Then you're not being honest enough to be worth listening to, obviously.
Would've been a hell of a play. Wish he'd made it, but he didn't. Not making the flukey tipped ball Hail Mary catch falling backwards is not a thing to criticize someone for, no matter which QB threw it.
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Sure, but not because of some miraculous difficulty of the catch. Easy catch? No. Makeable? Absolutely. That catch makes SportsCenter because it would have been a game winner.
And because it came off a tipped Hail Mary, falling backwards off balance.
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Spectacular because it was a game winner. Degree of Difficulty? 8 tops. He had the balled all but corralled.
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The one-handed catch Mooney made last year was a far more difficult catch.
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Spectacular because it was a game winner. Degree of Difficulty? 8 tops. He had the balled all but corralled.
Yep, he made a hell of a play to almost catch it, no doubt. Couldn't finish the catch, but made a hell of an effort on it.
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Lol
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I’d be asking myself why our playmakers consistently cant make game winning plays.
Like Fields, amirite?!
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Sure, but not because of some miraculous difficulty of the catch. Easy catch? No. Makeable? Absolutely. That catch makes SportsCenter because it would have been a game winner.
This is disingenuous as fuck…
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Spectacular because it was a game winner. Degree of Difficulty? 8 tops. He had the balled all but corralled.
You've posted a lot of that still image of Mooney sitting with the ball on his lap, but haven't seen you post these images from a split-second before yet:
(https://i.ibb.co/DpFkkck/Screenshot-2023-12-18-150623.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/DCVy5Wk/Screenshot-2023-12-18-150629.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/TMZXkz2/Screenshot-2023-12-18-150637.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/5jn546s/Screenshot-2023-12-18-150644.png)
The only reason Mooney ever had the ball on his lap was because he made a great play falling backwards to be in that position. The ball is incomplete if he doesn't make a great play falling backwards onto his ass to reach out and nearly snag it.
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This is disingenuous as fuck…
Judge Judy, what sporting endeavors were you better than professional athletes at? We know Tempo has better hands than Mooney.
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What does Kmet know? LOL
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/12/18/24006751/bears-browns-final-score-20-17-cole-kmet-darnell-mooney-hail-mary-not-play-we-should-be-harping-on
Cole Kmet: Failed Hail Mary ‘not the play we should be harping on’
The Bears aren’t blaming Darnell Mooney for their loss Sunday, even though the quarterback had a chance to make an amazing catch on a tipped Hail Mary as time expired.
“Three-and-outs are the things that are more glaring. If we’re able to execute a couple first downs here and there instead of three-and-outs we win that game with how our defense is playing. I tend to more look at those things. But the Hail Mary, it kind of just is what it is.”
Doesn't Kmet know Tempo would have caught that ball at least 8.5 times out of 10?
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This is disingenuous as fuck…
Yeah? Well your opinion is shit.
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What does Kmet know? LOL
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/12/18/24006751/bears-browns-final-score-20-17-cole-kmet-darnell-mooney-hail-mary-not-play-we-should-be-harping-on
Cole Kmet: Failed Hail Mary ‘not the play we should be harping on’
The Bears aren’t blaming Darnell Mooney for their loss Sunday, even though the quarterback had a chance to make an amazing catch on a tipped Hail Mary as time expired.
The quarterback had a chance to make an amazing catch?
Even the Sun Times is blaming Fields for Mooney not catching it!
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What does Kmet know? LOL
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/12/18/24006751/bears-browns-final-score-20-17-cole-kmet-darnell-mooney-hail-mary-not-play-we-should-be-harping-on
Cole Kmet: Failed Hail Mary ‘not the play we should be harping on’
The Bears aren’t blaming Darnell Mooney for their loss Sunday, even though the quarterback had a chance to make an amazing catch on a tipped Hail Mary as time expired.
You think Kmet is going to throw his teammate (and probable friend) under the bus? Lol. Not gonna happen.
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The quarterback had a chance to make an amazing catch?
Even the Sun Times is blaming Fields for Mooney not catching it!
LOL. I saw that. Great editors at the Sun Time these days.
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You think Kmet is going to throw his teammate (and probable friend) under the bus? Lol. Not gonna happen.
LOL. Yet you post all the clips of the WR supporting Fields. Of course they are not throwing him under the bus. Yet.
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Thanks to my glorious nap I missed the end. After seeing Tempo’s avatars I thought, “Oh wow, he did really have that in his lap and should have caught it.”
Then I saw the actual video posted here (spark’s stills are especially damning) and it was much more bang-bang and way more difficult of a catch than I’d imagined.
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Thanks to my glorious nap I missed the end. After seeing Tempo’s avatars I thought, “Oh wow, he did really have that in his lap and should have caught it.”
Then I saw the actual video posted here (spark’s stills are especially damning) and it was much more bang-bang and way more difficult of a catch than I’d imagined.
He’s an NFL receiver. He can make that catch pretty often. You just don’t see it unfold like that often.
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Thanks to my glorious nap I missed the end. After seeing Tempo’s avatars I thought, “Oh wow, he did really have that in his lap and should have caught it.”
Then I saw the actual video posted here (spark’s stills are especially damning) and it was much more bang-bang and way more difficult of a catch than I’d imagined.
You know that Tempo would have made that catch in HS.
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He’s an NFL receiver. He can make that catch pretty often. You just don’t see it unfold like that often.
You literally said you could've made the play. LOL.
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You know that Tempo would have made that catch in HS.
Probably half the time or better.
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You literally said you could've made the play. LOL.
Half the time or better.
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That’s why DK Metcalf makes that play 90+% of the time.
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He literally had it in his lap with his forearms under it.
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Can’t expect him to make this catch!
(https://i.postimg.cc/DyHw0X4Q/IMG-5965.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr7S56m6)
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Wait, you went from a HS player making the catch 8.5 times out of 10, to telling us what great hands you had as a receiver at RB and that you would have caught that ball, to now you only catching it half the time?
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Half the time or better.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Couldn't make it up, man.
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Can’t expect him to make this catch!
(https://i.postimg.cc/DyHw0X4Q/IMG-5965.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr7S56m6)
You would not even have gotten to the point this screenshot was taken. The ball would've already been on the ground.
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That’s why DK Metcalf makes that play 90+% of the time.
You live in an absolute delusional fantasy world if you think any person on earth is catching this ball 9 out of 10 times falling backwards.
(https://i.ibb.co/DCVy5Wk/Screenshot-2023-12-18-150629.png)
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Tempo once made 46 consecutive free shots in high school. Then he made 27 more after the streak was broken.
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You think Kmet is going to throw his teammate (and probable friend) under the bus? Lol. Not gonna happen.
Didn’t you post a link showing DJ Moore saying good things about Fields?! 😂🤣 what did you expect HIM to say?!
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(https://i.postimg.cc/CZ65LJzR/IMG-3407.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZ65LJzR)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/CZ65LJzR/IMG-3407.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZ65LJzR)
With how good Tempo can catch, I’m surprised he doesn’t make money off selling his trading cards. Maybe someone could photoshop one of him to sell…
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(https://i.postimg.cc/CZ65LJzR/IMG-3407.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZ65LJzR)
Tempo's Twitter picture on a Topps football card would be something to add to The Shrine
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Tempo's Twitter picture on a Topps football card would be something to add to The Shrine
Yes, please, someone make this happen!
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In the moment, yes I killed him for the Fail Mary but at the end of the day you can’t really predict which way the ball will be deflected and where it will end up on a desperation prayer. Mooney was probably surprised he even had a chance at it. Tempo would have us all believe that Mooney was wide open and dropped an absolute Fields dime.
Now I’ll keep killing him for the half assed block on the 4th down call because that was quite the pathetic effort.
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Wait, you went from a HS player making the catch 8.5 times out of 10, to telling us what great hands you had as a receiver at RB and that you would have caught that ball, to now you only catching it half the time?
You probably could have made that catch in HS. If it got to the point where it was in your lap? You’re probably making it.
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You guys are really weird sometimes.
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Didn’t you post a link showing DJ Moore saying good things about Fields?! 😂🤣 what did you expect HIM to say?!
That he likes Fields quarterbacking better than Bagent. Look at his splits. I’d like him too.
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You probably could have made that catch in HS. If it got to the point where it was in your lap? You’re probably making it.
There's zero chance I end up with that ball in my lap, LMAO.
I wasn't a terrible athlete or anything (catcher/first basemen and soccer goalie, had great hands for a dude without a D1 future), but Mooney made a great play to get to that point. You just ignored it. I posted both the video and screenshots. It was a great play to even get to the point where you could be mad about him not holding on.
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That he likes Fields quarterbacking better than Bagent. Look at his splits. I’d like him too.
You’re once again purposely missing the point I’m making here. Disingenuous.
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I have no doubt Mooney gave a great effort to make the play, but I don’t think he “made a great play just to have a chance.” He’s an NFL WR. The highest caliber of athlete.
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Of course I don’t expect DJ to throw Fields under the bus. I also think his teammates genuinely respect him.
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I have no doubt Mooney gave a great effort to make the play, but I don’t think he “made a great play just to have a chance.” He’s an NFL WR. The highest caliber of athlete.
Now do you see how ridiculous it is to say you could though?!
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I have no doubt Mooney gave a great effort to make the play, but I don’t think he “made a great play just to have a chance.” He’s an NFL WR. The highest caliber of athlete.
Correct.
The highest caliber of athlete made a hell of a play to have a shot at catching it and you're telling us you could've done it.
It's, again, why people make so much fun of you so consistently.
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No, I think any half assed athlete has a reasonable chance to catch a ball that that virtually lands in their lap. You guys are acting like he long jumped 29 feet 3 inches. Stop it. Was it an “easy” catch? No. Was it some sort of super human effort just to give himself a chance? Knock it off.
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“A hell of a play just to have a shot”
Is really stretching it.
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No, I think any half assed athlete has a reasonable chance to catch a ball that that virtually lands in their lap. You guys are acting like he long jumped 29 feet 3 inches. Stop it. Was it an “easy” catch? No. Was it some sort of super human effort just to give himself a chance? Knock it off.
The ball didn't virtually land in his lap.
The ONLY reason there's a screenshot of the ball in his lap is because he made a great play, falling backwards onto his ass on a tipped ball, to grab it with his hand and put it there. A play neither you nor I have a chance in hell of making.
It didn't land there. if you'd just watch the video you'd see that, obviously.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/0Q0J4MqS/IMG-3409.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8928pt3)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/0Q0J4MqS/IMG-3409.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8928pt3)
Awesome
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(https://i.postimg.cc/0Q0J4MqS/IMG-3409.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8928pt3)
Well done!
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You probably could have made that catch in HS. If it got to the point where it was in your lap? You’re probably making it.
I used to have good hands. Probably would have caught it. I also would not have quit when in The Olympics. But I threw it all away for love.
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I also would have made both field goals that Scott Norwood missed for the Bills in those Super Bowls.
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Unlike Merkle, I would have touched second base at the end of the game against the Cub in September, 1908...
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I would not have choked like Greg Norman and I would have won the 1996 The Masters.
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I would have trusted the intelligence warnings and not let the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor....
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Very normal adult behavior! I bet you miss the days of stuffing nerds into school lockers!
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The ball didn't virtually land in his lap.
The ball was in his lap. Easy catch? Not really. But spare me the “unbelievable he even gave himself a chance.” Lol
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Here’s the difficult part of the play. Tipping it to himself (simple hand eye coordination) not easy but not exactly something that takes super elite athleticism. Once he got the ball into his chest/lap region, he should have had a very good chance to make the play.
Reminds me of when a Steve Callahan (starting guard on the football team and pound for pound maybe the strongest kid I ever knew) asked me for one of my Oreos. I had a sleeve of them. I said, “sure” and as I opened the package several Oreos started to slip out and hurl to the floor. I snagged them in midair (like three of them). Practice as a kid snagging quarters from elbow probably trained me for that moment. Steve said “You’re quick as fuck, huh!” You guys should put that on the back of my trading card. An all-time athletic achievement in sports history.
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Here’s the difficult part of the play. Tipping it to himself (simple hand eye coordination) not easy but not exactly something that takes super elite athleticism. Once he got the ball into his chest/lap region, he should have had a very good chance to make the play.
Reminds me of when a Steve Callahan (starting guard on the football team and pound for pound maybe the strongest kid I ever knew) asked me for one of my Oreos. I had a sleeve of them. I said, “sure” and as I opened the package several Oreos started to slip out and hurl to the floor. I snagged them in midair (like three of them). Practice as a kid snagging quarters from elbow probably trained me for that moment. Steve said “You’re quick as fuck, huh!” You guys should put that on the back of my trading card. An all-time athletic achievement in sports history.
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My favorite part of this post is thinking you're probably serious.
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The ball was in his lap. Easy catch? Not really. But spare me the “unbelievable he even gave himself a chance.” Lol
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Yes, it was in his lap because he made a great play to get it there.
Posted the video, and the screenshots. It couldn't be more clear - that ball is going to hit the ground, except Mooney grabbed it with one arm, falling backwards off a tip.
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My favorite part of this post is thinking you're probably serious.
About what.
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My favorite part is that you think catching a tipped ball while falling backwards takes otherworldly athleticism (to even give yourself a chance!).
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😂
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Yes, it was in his lap because he made a great play to get it there.
Posted the video, and the screenshots. It couldn't be more clear - that ball is going to hit the ground, except Mooney grabbed it with one arm, falling backwards off a tip.
I just said he completed (by far) the hardest part (tipping it to himself). From there, should have been caught.
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If he had “grabbed” it it would have been a touchdown.
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That play was almost all hand eye coordination. Doesn’t take a special athlete to make a play like this (or to even give himself a chance!).
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My cousin ran like he had a piano on his back, but was a terrific athlete with exceptional hand/eye coordination. He’d have made that catch.
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As if Tempo making the catch wasn't enough, now we get his cousin making the catch.
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Who the fuck cares anyway, the bears at this point should be trying to lose as many games as possible. They aren't making the playoffs or winning any games even if they make it. But fields record speaks for itself I would think.
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Who the fuck cares anyway, the bears at this point should be trying to lose as many games as possible. They aren't making the playoffs or winning any games even if they make it. But fields record speaks for itself I would think.
HAVE YOU SEEN HOW MUCH TEMPO CARES?!?! 😳😳😳
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As if Tempo making the catch wasn't enough, now we get his cousin making the catch.
OK that’s funny
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As if Tempo making the catch wasn't enough, now we get his cousin making the catch.
It’s been quite a day in here. Jesus Christ.
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Who the fuck cares anyway, the bears at this point should be trying to lose as many games as possible. They aren't making the playoffs or winning any games even if they make it. But fields record speaks for itself I would think.
Another person who has no idea what a tank and rebuild means, well done
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Another person who has no idea what a tank and rebuild means, well done
Is this the “lose small” year?
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HAVE YOU SEEN HOW MUCH TEMPO CARES?!?! 😳😳😳
If he fans any harder the mccaskeys are gonna put him up in a luxury box for their next game!
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Is this the “lose small” year?
Must be, lol
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Is this the “lose small” year?
Never heard the term.
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Never heard the term.
See: Zook, Ron.
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So yeah, uh, Eberflus has to go.
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Lol wow. At the risk of sounding like an EFF, this team hasn’t learned how to close yet (obvi). Telling you, time together as a unit matters. Look at KC, Philly, San Fran. Lots of players who’ve been together for a while. Getsy for sure has to go.
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I'm curious why Getsy doesn't get the "he has terrible playmakers and no line and bad running game and WRs aren't good and they haven't played enough games together how could you expect him to perform" type excuses.
Like I agree with you completely, Getsy definitely needs to go - but don't all those problems make an OC's job harder in a similar way to how they make a QB's job harder? Why are they valid excuses for Fields but not Getsy?
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He doesn’t put them in a position to win, the scheme sucks, a majority if the plays suck. And the execution sucks. And he’s sucks at play-calling. That’s why. He doesn’t put his team in a position to be successful nearly enough.
And if you think I’m exaggerating watch the All22 with JT O’Sullivan. IDK maybe Getsy banged his wife, but he’s definitely not a fan.
Chase Daniel and others have also pointed out that Fields isn’t the problem. Definitely not the main problem.
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The one damn thing that Bears fans are unified on right now is that Getsy sucks. That’s not an exaggeration. I hear it on calls on the radio. I see it on Twitter. I even see the press and scouts like Greg Gabriel roasting him. I’ve heard a lot of “keep flus, fire flus, keep Justin, launch Justin.” I think I’ve heard one caller in the last two months (out of a lot of calls I’ve heard) say Getsy is doing a decent job.
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I’ve heard 75 that said he needs to go.
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There are times when O’Sullivan is very critical of Justin not finding the open man “No excuse, you gotta rip that one.” But 85% of the time it’s “Fields making chicken salad out of chicken bleep again.”
He seems to believe in Fields.
Yes, Justin is flawed. But they are flaws that can be improved upon, and when the line gets more experienced and the weapons further upgraded I still think he’ll make that jump.
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There are times when O’Sullivan is very critical of Justin not finding the open man “No excuse, you gotta rip that one.” But 85% of the time it’s “Fields making chicken salad out of chicken bleep again.”
He seems to believe in Fields.
Yes, Justin is flawed. But they are flaws that can be improved upon, and when the line gets more experienced and the weapons further upgraded I still think he’ll make that jump.
I’ve seen you be critical of Jalen Hurts, do you think he’s holding the Eagles back or something?
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If I had a dollar for everytime I’ve heard him say “You can’t play quarterback like this.” Meaning, with what’s going on around him, I’d have free Patreon for all of us.
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So I literally just picked back up with rhe ALL22 (5th play of the game) and JT is gigglesnorting because Kmet split two defenders to block DJ Moore. One minute later “what they are asking him to do is not good enough (not sound football around Justin).
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“It’s terrible football, terrible football.”
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Maybe Getsy has had to dumb it down since the QB admittedly has problems learning offensive concepts?
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He doesn’t put them in a position to win, the scheme sucks, a majority if the plays suck. And the execution sucks. And he’s sucks at play-calling. That’s why. He doesn’t put his team in a position to be successful nearly enough.
And if you think I’m exaggerating watch the All22 with JT O’Sullivan. IDK maybe Getsy banged his wife, but he’s definitely not a fan.
Chase Daniel and others have also pointed out that Fields isn’t the problem. Definitely not the main problem.
Neither does Fields, but 100% of the time someone points that out you trot out a list of about 10 excuses that would, you'd think, also apply to Getsy - bad talent, WRs suck, OL sucks, no running game. Given those restrictions, what kind of scheme would work? How do you draw up a good game plan, assuming you're right about how terrible the WR and OL and running game talent is? I legitimately don't get it.
Again, I agree that Getsy sucks and that these things shouldn't excuse his poor performance, I just think it's weird that you're so sure about that and so bullish that those things SHOULD excuse Fields' performance every week.
Is there any reason for that other than a YouTube video from a former NFL backup?
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Neither does Fields, but 100% of the time someone points that out you trot out a list of about 10 excuses that would, you'd think, also apply to Getsy - bad talent, WRs suck, OL sucks, no running game. Given those restrictions, what kind of scheme would work? How do you draw up a good game plan, assuming you're right about how terrible the WR and OL and running game talent is? I legitimately don't get it.
Again, I agree that Getsy sucks and that these things shouldn't excuse his poor performance, I just think it's weird that you're so sure about that and so bullish that those things SHOULD excuse Fields' performance every week.
Is there any reason for that other than a YouTube video from a former NFL backup?
Tempo pays for access to the JT Sullivan videos. He is Patreon subscriber.
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Maybe Getsy has had to dumb it down since the QB admittedly has problems learning offensive concepts?
Maybe you can’t read. Maybe I should dumb my posts down for you.
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Bad concepts and design don’t happen because the QB is dumb.
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Maybe you can’t read. Maybe I should dumb my posts down for you.
I can read just fine. He admitted he could not learn the offense.
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Bad concepts and design don’t happen because the QB is dumb.
If the QB can't learn the offense, you may have Keep It Simple, Stupid just for him. Maybe that is what Getsy has had to do?
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You would be better off paying for my football analysis videos.
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You would be better off paying for my football analysis videos.
😂 probably
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You would be better off paying for my football analysis videos.
I’m not convinced there would be much value there
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If the QB can't learn the offense, you may have Keep It Simple, Stupid just for him. Maybe that is what Getsy has had to do?
Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason why O’Sullivan says the “details and design just aren’t there?” Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason Cole Kmet whiffs on two defenders to block DJ Moore?
Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason the Bears opened up the game with a deep ball in wet and windy conditions and followed it up with two pitches right at Myles Garrett?
Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason Bears receivers are running to the same parts of the field and the reason the Bears’ formation are too tight and not creating space?
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Simple isn’t the same thing as inept.
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Entering halfway through the All22 “ I get so frustrated I just don’t think it’s that hard, this team, more than any other team or offense just refuses to use the skills that are available to them.” JT O’Sullivan
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In before PAman says “ yes the quarterback refuses to use the skills that are available to him.”
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Lol Wanny seems to think the Mooney Hail Mary catch was pretty doable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7w2MOYHZNM
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Lol Wanny seems to think the Mooney Hail Mary catch was pretty doable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7w2MOYHZNM
Look at his eyes, they aren’t on the ball.
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I’m not convinced there would be much value there
Of course not, because you cannot handle the truth.
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Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason why O’Sullivan says the “details and design just aren’t there?” Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason Cole Kmet whiffs on two defenders to block DJ Moore?
Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason the Bears opened up the game with a deep ball in wet and windy conditions and followed it up with two pitches right at Myles Garrett?
Is “keep it simple stupid” the reason Bears receivers are running to the same parts of the field and the reason the Bears’ formation are too tight and not creating space?
Yes. It is possible the rest of the offense players are lacking in football smarts too. Poles may need to ask more questions about cars when meeting with prospective free agents and draft picks.
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Of course not, because you cannot handle the truth.
Start your own channel then. Would be wildly entertaining if not at all accurate.
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Yes. It is possible the rest of the offense players are lacking in football smarts too. Poles may need to ask more questions about cars when meeting with prospective free agents and draft picks.
Oh, that’s cute. Another meme to latch on to.
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Wonder what kind of car Fields drove in college
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Wonder what kind of car Fields drove in college
Probably not a Ferrari. I think he drives a very sensible SUV today. And has a good driving record
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Probably not a Ferrari. I think he drives a very sensible SUV today. And has a good driving record
That's kinda creepy.
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That's kinda creepy.
Kinda tongue in cheek.
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Chris Chelios just said "I don't know how he (Mooney) misses that catch in the end zone.” Me, my cousin, and Chris Chelios make that catch!
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Woman talks football. Would be a total waste of time to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBJB3NRR_yY
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😂😂😂
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I wonder what Rashard thinks of that.
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I wonder what Rashard thinks of that.
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Mendenhall might have a touch of CTE. He thinks VERY highly of himself!
Interesting racial comments from him while he’s married to and banging a white woman. Don’t give me that Lebanese bullshit either 😂
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He’s out there a little bit.
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Wanny said he watched the tape and there were a “large handful” of plays that were missed (blocks and catches). Said Getsy and Fields are getting too much of the blame.