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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Custard on December 14, 2023, 10:34:19 PM
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Don’t feel super confident about this one. Sleepy Sunday noon tip, no students against a decent team. Prove me wrong boys.
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I'm almost at the point where it wouldn't come as a shock to me if this was a loss/closer-than-expected win.
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Honoring the 83-84 B1G co-champs at halftime.
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Honoring the 83-84 B1G co-champs at halftime.
What a great team.
That was an historic royal fuck job at Rupp Arena and I rarely bitch about refs.
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Let the people decide which Colgate game thread is better!
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Let the people decide which Colgate game thread is better!
...all over again.
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Let the people decide which Colgate game thread is better!
Your title is great 👍
We're you saving that one up?
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Sucks the Bears and Illini game is on at the same time 😡
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...all over again.
Well done. Lol
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Shoot that Hawkins! You tried to pass it to a guy 1 foot away from you for an alley oop.
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With the way Shannon is shooting the 3, he’s a lottery pick.
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And great pass that time by Hawkins.
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DGL finally sees the floor and immediately heaves a terrible 3 and takes a circus shot at the rim. 🤦🏻
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Also didn't realize there were two game threads either.
I'll give both some love. Very good first half against a feisty Colgate squad.
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An Illini great giving Ayo and TSJ props!
https://x.com/deebrown11/status/1736456020442964153?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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The 2nd half offense is an eyesore.
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The 2nd half offense is an eyesore.
Yeah this is terrible!
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We look so lost against a zone. That's been a nagging issue for many years.
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We look so lost against a zone. That's been a nagging issue for many years.
It’d be good it a Guerrier or Hawkins would shoot that jump shot at the free throw line against it.
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We really, really needed that three.
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There's a program in the next state west who, if up by 20, would try to make it 30. We've never really had much of a go to the jugular mentality.
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It’d be good it a Guerrier or Hawkins would shoot that jump shot at the free throw line against it.
The midrange jumper should be easy money for Hawkins but he bypasses it to jack up threes for some reason.
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The midrange jumper should be easy money for Hawkins but he bypasses it to jack up threes for some reason.
There's a lot of players who don't like a midrange jumper. If I remember , RJM was ok with those but we, not me tho 😂, decided he should go sit in the corner and clank 3s.
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All in all I expected a close-ish game. I didn't see us trying to set the game of basketball back decades with our 2nd half offense though.
Beat the fuck out of Mizzou now please.
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Pretty solid win ! Caught the second half after my round. Need to win out going into Purdue game.
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I’d bang Shauna Green! PMan got me thinking with his maybe they’re horny comment 😂
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Only thing I'm concerned about after this game is DGL. He played for a couple minutes too two crappy shots then was relegated to the bench and appeared to be quite unhappy with it the rest of the way.
Not sure if the staff is sending the right message to him 🤔 they are probably telling him to be aggressive, so he comes out gunning and then proceeds to get benched for doing what the staff is probably telling him? I dunno but it's not looking good again for another talented freshman guard under BU.
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Only thing I'm concerned about after this game is DGL. He played for a couple minutes too two crappy shots then was relegated to the bench and appeared to be quite unhappy with it the rest of the way.
Not sure if the staff is sending the right message to him 🤔 they are probably telling him to be aggressive, so he comes out gunning and then proceeds to get benched for doing what the staff is probably telling him? I dunno but it's not looking good again for another talented freshman guard under BU.
Honestly, I got a bad vibe and body language from him when he walked right past me in the mall. He didn’t look like he was happy at all…
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Honestly, I got a bad vibe and body language from him when he walked right past me in the mall. He didn’t look like he was happy at all…
I mean I wouldn't be very happy if shitty Harmon and Rodgers were playing over me either
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Well, it is not going well from an outsider view.
The rotation is now basically 8 and Harmon and Goode are getting the backup minutes on the perimeter. DGL is on outside looking in.
Moretti might come back and try and get in the mix.
Next year they are bringing back Harris apparently who is working on learning how to dribble and pass and shoot a basketball, Rodgers is this year's DaMonte Williams Underwood Boner Award shoo in winner already, they have the 3 star guard coming in who is allegedly a player, and of course they will go heavy portal shopping.
Nobody knows what is going on in practice but he is not getting used much and not playing well when out there.
It has the smell of a transfer. Kid has some clear offensive talent, is a bad defender like a lot of frosh. They value defense over offense here by far.
UW wants a team that can win 2 or 3 games in March and will go with the rotation he has now is my guess.
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Harmon and Rodgers are WAY higher floor players right now than DGL. Guys can be aggressive without being reckless. I haven’t seen much from the kid to make me think he needs a bunch more minutes. Guessing there are attitude issues if he can’t get on the floor much for comfortable wins. Surprised Hansberry didn’t play today. What’s the deal there?
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Hansberry has been kind of a garbage minute guy. This game was never enough of a blow out I guess.
9 or 10 point game in last four minutes.
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As for DGL bring behind Rodgers and Harmon it says a lot. Neither of them are more than you have to have another basic ball handler out there who will hopefully not hurt you.
DGL as noted can make poor decisions on offense and he gets lost on D more than normal.
We don't have a good solution.
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Rodgers and Harmon play D. Harmon can knock down open 3s. DGL is a matador on D and out of control on the other end. As we’ve all said before we could really use his speed and ability on the offensive end but man you can’t be a big liability out there on both ends of the floor more often than not.
That said, I would have given him some minutes in the second half when we were up 20 to try and settle in.
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Rodgers and Harmon play D. Harmon can knock down open 3s. DGL is a matador on D and out of control on the other end. As we’ve all said before we could really use his speed and ability on the offensive end but man you can’t be a big liability out there on both ends of the floor more often than not.
That said, I would have given him some minutes in the second half when we were up 20 to try and settle in.
Agree he should have gotten more minutes for a lot of reasons. Harmon is no Curry. He has made 5 threes all year, but at least he will shoot them. Rodgers has now scored 12 points in the last four games.
Neither should really be out there that much but they are all we have and they not killing us which is all we can hope for. We do not beat FAU without Harmon’s 10 points.
At this point they just have to go with it and hope for the best and we are past the point of getting DGL ready for the BT. He will be a non factor this year it appears unless something changes the trajectory this is on.
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The Sleepers guys had some good thoughts on the game, the roster, and especially DGL. Just watched it.
https://youtu.be/1CWseSZE1eA?si=gtTVCxAt1aVjVUZZ
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I agree with them on our roster generally. Right now DGL doesn't give you anything not already on the floor but I'd agree he should've gotten more playing time today. But if Moretti is back healthy for B1G season I feel like he almost has a better chance to play meaningful minutes as the backup rotation guard than DGL.
I would project us 2-4 in the B1G. There's too many 8-10 seeds in the conference not to have one or two inexplicably finish higher than they should.
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I agree with them on our roster generally. Right now DGL doesn't give you anything not already on the floor but I'd agree he should've gotten more playing time today. But if Moretti is back healthy for B1G season I feel like he almost has a better chance to play meaningful minutes as the backup rotation guard than DGL.
I would project us 2-4 in the B1G. There's too many 8-10 seeds in the conference not to have one or two inexplicably finish higher than they should.
yeah I guess, just figured we'd see DGL more in the non conference cupcake games so we know what we have without risking much
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The Sleepers guys had some good thoughts on the game, the roster, and especially DGL. Just watched it.
https://youtu.be/1CWseSZE1eA?si=gtTVCxAt1aVjVUZZ
Never saw these guys before. How do they have a show? LOL. It's like a couple of Loyalty board homers.
I think that because the BT is relatively weak again that we should easily go 12-8 and as high as 14-6 which would keep us solidly in
4 or 5 seed territory. Beat Purdue and win 15 games we might be a 3 seed. Would require going 5-5 on the road which is pretty hard in any year but there are a lot of pretty inconsistent teams.
It is doable.
This team will have a solid chance at the second weekend. They will be playing a 3/4/5/6 (no great teams and all beatable) to do so. I do not think we will fall to a 7 seed as weak as the BT is and have to play a 2.
Calling Illinois a great team is crazy.
Claiming UW should be coach of the year is a stretch at this point.
People expected us to be in Top tier of BT with the returnees and portal guys in a soft BT.
We needed one of the Marquette or Tennessee games (both who Purdue beat) to be in that conversation.
Purdue has four Top 10 wins and likely POY.
We have none.
If we win the BT regular season then that award is warranted.
Not out of the question. Purdue will still have guard ballhandling and shooting issues IMO, but it looks like Smith has made a major jump and the Jones kid helps a lot
in terms of athleticism.
We should improve on offense, however, as Domask and Guerrier and Hawkins revert to their mean. I really like that Hawkins did not take some bonehead early shot clock threes
that he would have taken last year and he had some more shots in the paint. He will never be an efficient or likely a 13/14 ppg scorer but he can be a 10 ppg guy for sure.
The thing that I do agree with is our defense as a unit is becoming pretty solid. Yeah we gave up 86 and 89 vs FAU and Tenn but they had to work for it. I think in the BT in halfcourt slugfests we will keep most teams in the 60's.
It is not flashy like last year with the focus on blocks but we then had constant breakdowns and
the drop coverage and help rotations were abysmal.
Much more solid this year likely due to having four guys starting who are all seniors or older who play better position defense.
TSj has been much improved on and off ball. We are not blocking shots or producing TOs but we are simply staying or getting in front of people better.
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I don’t disagree with your assessment but they aren’t Illinois guys. I think they spun off from Field of 68? The white dude (Greg?) is a Michigan fan who coined the “Daddy Brad” nickname because Underwood has owned Juwan. Their stuff has been popping up on my YouTube feed when I watch Illini highlights.
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I agree with them on our roster generally. Right now DGL doesn't give you anything not already on the floor but I'd agree he should've gotten more playing time today. But if Moretti is back healthy for B1G season I feel like he almost has a better chance to play meaningful minutes as the backup rotation guard than DGL.
I would project us 2-4 in the B1G. There's too many 8-10 seeds in the conference not to have one or two inexplicably finish higher than they should.
Agree. The BT is shaping up as a league where a lot of teams will not be great but will be tough outs at home. It used to be the formula was win all or most all of your home games but the stats were always league on average won only 33% of road games. The crowds the scouting, and the physical beatings allowed made a road win against any decent teams hard. The top teams would do better than that. But we have seen PU already lose on the road.
Illinois, NU, Wisky,OSU, MSU, Nebraska, Indiana, and of course Purdue on road will all be tough for opposing teams. MD could come around also. Even Iowa can be a problem if they get things sorted out.
I think we can go 4-6 or maybe 5-5. 6-4 would be excellent and give us a shot at title. Need to go 9-1 or ideally 10-0 at home. Nothing will be easy as we are not a really good offensive team yet.
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I don’t disagree with your assessment but they aren’t Illinois guys. I think they spun off from Field of 68? The white dude (Greg?) is a Michigan fan who coined the “Daddy Brad” nickname because Underwood has owned Juwan. Their stuff has been popping up on my YouTube feed when I watch Illini highlights.
Got it. They are very high on Illinois for sure. We find consistent scoring we can be very good.
This non flashy defense reminds me of the COVID year team defense later in year after they stopped fouling and trying for TOs and went packline.
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Rodgers and Harmon play D. Harmon can knock down open 3s. DGL is a matador on D and out of control on the other end. As we’ve all said before we could really use his speed and ability on the offensive end but man you can’t be a big liability out there on both ends of the floor more often than not.
That said, I would have given him some minutes in the second half when we were up 20 to try and settle in.
Harmon has helped but as stated in the past I do not think overall he is B1G caliber, we got what we got there.
DGL, I would guess does have some attitude issues, typical of a HS kid (I am greater than I am mentality), lets see if he stays put after this year. I thought he had the athletic ability and scoring ability to be our PG by B1G conference play ( I was wrong). He now seems to be almost a carbon copy of Curbelo, but with more athletic ability, just not the type that helps us right now.
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Can’t say I’ve ever once thought DGL reminded me of Curbelo
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Can’t say I’ve ever once thought DGL reminded me of Curbelo
curbelo had a good freshman year and liked to pass the ball
dgl is doing the opposite
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Can’t say I’ve ever once thought DGL reminded me of Curbelo
😂 yeah not sure what he was going for with that one…
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😂 yeah not sure what he was going for with that one…
Crazy, out of control, mind boggling plays, aggressive, talented, perplexing, yea not sure how the two could be compared...LOL. Both are everything listed and more so far.
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They play nothing alike.
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Crazy, out of control, mind boggling plays, aggressive, talented, perplexing, yea not sure how the two could be compared...LOL. Both are everything listed and more so far.
Ok that makes more sense
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Why the hell did we honor the 83-84 team at the halftime of a break game against a mid major team? My brother and his family were at the game and said it was maybe 70% full and a tomb.
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For some reason, every time DGL plays, he reminds me of Carl Gallagher from the American version of Shameless.
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Why the hell did we honor the 83-84 team at the halftime of a break game against a mid major team? My bbrother and his family were at the game and said it was maybe 70% full and a tomb.
Fire Eberlose. Fire Getsy. Fire Poles.
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For some reason, every time DGL plays, he reminds me of Carl Gallagher from the American version of Shameless.
Gallagher may have been more predictable to date....good one !