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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on December 14, 2023, 10:19:08 AM
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This appears to be the rankings according to the most accurate mock draft of the last 5 years. Not an actual mock prediction of course (or is it?!)
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Nabers would be a nice consolation prize if we can’t get MHJ.
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If the Bears managed to trade down maybe finagle a 3rd 1st round pick I would not be against taking Jayden Daniels or Michael Penix.
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Also like the idea of taking Nix or McCarthy if they fall.
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Also like the idea of taking Nix or McCarthy if they fall.
I'm on the Nix train
Get that stud WR with the #1, maybe an OL or DL and if Nix falls to the 2nd round grab him
honestly Williams reminds me of "can't miss" Cade McNown (height and weight are similar as well)
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Did McNown drive a Ferrari too?
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With the Bears’ own pick likely to fall, hard to see them getting a 3rd first. I am warming up to the idea of DJ Moore and Malik Nabers being teammates.
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Did McNown drive a Ferrari too?
Idk maybe 🤔
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Did McNown drive a Ferrari too?
It wouldn’t matter unless you didn’t like him though, so we need to know that first…
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Did McNown drive a Ferrari too?
Whatever car he had he parked in an ADA spot. We know that.
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It wouldn’t matter unless you didn’t like him though, so we need to know that first…
I’d be equally curious to any college kid driving a Ferrari. Does he think “he’s made it?” Is he giving the appearance that he’s in it for the money, or is he self-driven? No pun intended. Has the money changed his personality? Is football his priority? Exorbitant spending habits would make me look at that stuff a bit closer.
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I’m not saying any of that is a deal killer, but I’d say for example if I like Drake Maye equally and I don’t like the answers to those questions, I might lean Maye.
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I’m not saying any of that is a deal killer, but I’d say for example if I like Drake Maye equally and I don’t like the answers to those questions, I might lean Maye.
Didn't Trubisky drive some shitty 10 year old corolla or something? this is a hilarious take
edit : bahaha what an article, I mean, paragraph or two
https://totalpackers.com/2017/05/mitch-trubiskys-car-metaphor-bears-team/
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Maybe Isaiah Williams will be a Bear
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Maybe Isaiah Williams will be a Bear
If they keep him away from punt returning duties, maybe it could work.
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Seen a couple three mock drafts or more that have the Bears taking Marvin Harrison, Junior number one which is just ridiculously stupid. They are not drafting him with the top pick they would at least trade down one or two spots to get something for the pick, just dumb.
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Seen a couple three mock drafts or more that have the Bears taking Marvin Harrison, Junior number one which is just ridiculously stupid. They are not drafting him with the top pick they would at least trade down one or two spots to get some for the pick, just dumb.
Agreed.
That sounds like something Matt Millen would have done.
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The only way the Bears select a player at #1 is if it’s Caleb Williams. Nobody else will be going #1 to us. Not even Drake Maye. Take that shit to the bank. 32/32 GM’s would select Williams instantly over Maye.
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The only way the Bears select a player at #1 is if it’s Caleb Williams. Nobody else will be going #1 to us. Not even Drake Maye. Take that shit to the bank. 32/32 GM’s would select Williams instantly over Maye.
Well, Judge Judy's opinion is just as good as Chris Chelios', Mike Tyson's, and Simone Biles'.
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Well, Judge Judy's opinion is just as good as Chris Chelios', Mike Tyson's, and Simone Biles'.
Damn right!
Disclaimer… 32/32 would select Williams over Fields too!
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Well, Judge Judy's opinion is just as good as Chris Chelios', Mike Tyson's, and Simone Biles'.
What about ultimate frisbee star Dylan Freechild?
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What about ultimate frisbee star Dylan Freechild?
He's an idiot.
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The only way the Bears select a player at #1 is if it’s Caleb Williams. Nobody else will be going #1 to us. Not even Drake Maye. Take that shit to the bank. 32/32 GM’s would select Williams instantly over Maye.
I 90% agree with that allowing for the slight possibility they prefer Maye.
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What about ultimate frisbee star Dylan Freechild?
Damn, I didn't know Jobu knew his Ultimate Frisbee players. Impressive.
Btw, I don’t know who the fuck that even is… 😂
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I would be shocked if he stayed at OSU
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I would be shocked if he stayed at OSU
Same…
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Would be something if he did and took away one of the FFF's arguments regarding the draft
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Yeah, just can’t see staying in college when you’re a virtual certainty to go top 3.
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Would be something if he did and took away one of the FFF's arguments regarding the draft
Not a surprising comment, but Nabers or Odunze wouldn’t be terrible consolation prizes. And can be had a little further down the board.
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Yeah, just can’t see staying in college when you’re a virtual certainty to go top 3.
O$U pays well but not THAT well
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Interesting. Possibly getting 2 3rd rounders…
https://x.com/irishbearsshow/status/1738150468533055740?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Interesting. Possibly getting 2 3rd rounders…
https://x.com/irishbearsshow/status/1738150468533055740?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
More than they would get for Fields?
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Interesting. Possibly getting 2 3rd rounders…
https://x.com/irishbearsshow/status/1738150468533055740?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I would be very open to trading for Justin Herbert.
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I would be very open to trading for Justin Herbert.
This is progress, and a groundbreaking post!
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Excited to see what the offseason, free agency, and draft bring for the Bears…
I don’t think you can go into next year with Fields at QB, but in Poles I trust… 🤷🏻♂️
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Excited to see what the offseason, free agency, and draft bring for the Bears…
I don’t think you can go into next year with Fields at QB, but in Poles I trust… 🤷🏻♂️
Kool-Aid34 will be all over it starting in one minute
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He seemed to almost openly say today the 1st pick is available if someone wants it.
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He seemed to almost openly say today the 1st pick is available if someone wants it.
Really? Surprising!
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RIP
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Love has surpassed Fields. I wish Fields the best, but he’s just not the guy here. Keeping him will be a huge mistake in my opinion.
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Love has surpassed Fields. I wish Fields the best, but he’s just not the guy here. Keeping him will be a huge mistake in my opinion.
Fresh take. Got more?
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Groundhog Day starts now. Just quote Kool-Aid34's posts starting in January 2023 about cap space and draft capital...it is just going to be the same shit.
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Real bummer AZ couldn’t hold on for the win, and I thought Washington and NE might flip positions. Washington at 3 would have been ideal IMO. I see them being the best trade partner, and I see NE being the worst. Especially if they want to guarantee a shot at MHJ should they trade down. Would have been nice to see the Giants lose, too.
The third spot is the sweet spot for me but NE is the team I least see giving up a haul. And probably the only player they have worth trading for is Christian Barmore. Certainly no receivers worth anything.
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Groundhog Day starts now. Just quote Kool-Aid34's posts starting in January 2023 about cap space and draft capital...it is just going to be the same shit.
You post the same shit every day, so why not?
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You post the same shit every day, so why not?
Cap space.
zzzzzzz
Draft capital.
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Velus Jones, Jr.
zzzzzzz
Nate Davis
zzzzzzz
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Trade w/Washington for McLaurin, 2024 2nd, and 2025 1st. Trade NYG #2 for Kayvon Thibodeaux and a 1st or 2nd and draft Nabers or Odunze. No MHJ but still really huge hauls combined.
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Trade w/Washington for McLaurin, 2024 2nd, and 2025 1st. Trade NYG #2 for Kayvon Thibodeaux and a 1st or 2nd and draft Nabers or Odunze. No MHJ but still really huge hauls combined.
What are their contracts looking like?
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Cap space.
zzzzzzz
Draft capital.
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Velus Jones, Jr.
zzzzzzz
Nate Davis
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It’s hilarious that you think this is clever.
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What are their contracts looking like?
Look it up.
Cap space.
Zzzzzzz
Draft capital
Zzzzzzz
Nate Davis
Zzzzzz
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It’s hilarious that you think this is clever.
It's hilarious that you post these trade scenarios without mentioning a single contract given today's NFL
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Look it up.
Cap space.
Zzzzzzz
Draft capital
Zzzzzzz
Nate Davis
Zzzzzz
Apparently you know this info since you are posting them as possibilities.
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McLaurin is doable. And Thibodeaux is halfway through a rookie deal.
Cap space.
Zzzzzzz
Draft capital
Zzzzzzz
Nate Davis
Zzzzzz
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McLaurin isn’t cheap, but he’s less than Moore.
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McLaurin is doable. And Thibodeaux is halfway through a rookie deal.
Cap space.
Zzzzzzz
Draft capital
Zzzzzzz
Nate Davis
Zzzzzz
Specifics?
Why is Velus Jones, Jr. not listed? You are now a fan of the pick?
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McLaurin isn’t cheap, but he’s less than Moore.
How many years left?
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Fresh take. Got more?
It’s better than hearing you trot out the same shit over and over. If you haven’t noticed, it’s basically you chatting yourself anymore on here regarding the Bears and Fields. There’s a reason for that ya know…
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Fresh take. Got more?
And not long ago (this season to be exact) you stated Fields was much better than Love. So yes, it’s a “fresh take.”
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Specifics?
Why is Velus Jones, Jr. not listed? You are now a fan of the pick?
What do you mean? Why is he not listed? Why is he not listed where?
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And not long ago (this season to be exact) you stated Fields was much better than Love. So yes, it’s a “fresh take.”
I was referring to the “he’s just not the guy” take.
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It’s better than hearing you trot out the same shit over and over. If you haven’t noticed, it’s basically you chatting yourself anymore on here regarding the Bears and Fields. There’s a reason for that ya know…
Zzzzzz
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What do you mean? Why is he not listed? Why is he not listed where?
Your mocking of my snooze list....
Cap space.
zzzzzzz
Draft capital.
zzzzzzz
Velus Jones, Jr.
zzzzzzz
Nate Davis
zzzzzzz
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Oh, just missed it. No agenda there. He stinks.
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It’s better than hearing you trot out the same shit over and over. If you haven’t noticed, it’s basically you chatting yourself anymore on here regarding the Bears and Fields. There’s a reason for that ya know…
You can put it on the board, yessss!
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Oh, just missed it. No agenda there. He stinks.
Ok.
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Anyone who watched the game today and came away thinking Justin Fields is what’s wrong with the offense, or the Bears is not very bright. On the list of problems on the Bears offense I’d put him no higher than 9th, and 9th would be stretch.
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Anyone who watched the game today and came away thinking Justin Fields is what’s wrong with the offense, or the Bears is a not very bright. In the list of problems on the Bears offense I’d put him no higher than 9th, and 9th would be stretch.
Is this your list?
1. Getsy
2. Getsy
3. Getsy
4. Getsy
5. Getsy
6. Getsy
7. Getsy
8. Getsy
9. Fields
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Ok.
But I thought Getsy would try to get him involved today. Nothing to lose today was a big step back for Getsy in my opinion after a couple of weeks where he looked like he was tuned in better.
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Is this your list?
1. Getsy
2. Getsy
3. Getsy
4. Getsy
5. Getsy
6. Getsy
7. Getsy
8. Getsy
9. Fields
Nice try but no
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I wish Fields had been the guy, but he is not the guy.
I'm conditioned to believe the Bears will keep everyone and we get to have all these discussions all next year too, because they tend to make the dumbest decisions most of the time.
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ESPN prediction for Atlanta this offseason…
“Big prediction for the offseason: The Falcons will use Pitts as part of a package to pry quarterback Justin Fields away from the Bears before Chicago uses the No. 1 overall pick on a new starting quarterback.”
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ESPN prediction for Chicago this offseason…
“Big prediction for the offseason: The Bears will use the No. 1 pick on a new quarterback and invest in that quarterback by signing Mike Evans, one of the top free agent wide receivers. Evans has 10 straight 1,000-yard seasons and would pair nicely with DJ Moore in this offense.”
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Anyone who watched the game today and came away thinking Justin Fields is what’s wrong with the offense, or the Bears is not very bright. On the list of problems on the Bears offense I’d put him no higher than 9th, and 9th would be stretch.
Lemme guess?
1.Getsy
2.Janocko
3.The Oline
4.Darnell Mooney
5.Tyler Scott
6.Velus Jones
7.Robert Tonyan
8.EQ St. Brown
9.Fields
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The Bear should not move kn from Mooney because his replacement MIGHT be worse.
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I don't know why the Bear even bother drafting guys because these draftees might be worse than what they already have.
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Oh, Jesus.
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I guess we’ll see shortly…
https://x.com/dave_bfr/status/1746925196580135183?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Caleb Williams just declared for the draft! Chicago don’t fuck this up!!!!!!
https://x.com/calebcsw/status/1746982082314989922?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Holy shit if you can get this you ABSOLUTELY do it!!!
https://x.com/coxsports1/status/1746990000351121864?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Holy shit if you can get this you ABSOLUTELY do it!!!
https://x.com/coxsports1/status/1746990000351121864?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Would be a steal.
Does Atlanta even have a GM at this point?
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Would be a steal.
Does Atlanta even have a GM at this point?
Yeah Terry Fontenot still is I believe. No head coach though.
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I’m glad Cunningham for the Bears didn’t get the Washington GM job.
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It’s from all those miserable FFFs like Tempo, Danny!
https://x.com/dannyparkins/status/1746982600063734230?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://x.com/nflnotify/status/1746982105287155951?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Would be a steal.
Does Atlanta even have a GM at this point?
Ryan Pace?
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I’m glad Cunningham for the Bears didn’t get the Washington GM job.
Why?
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Why?
Because I like him with us.
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Because I like him with us.
Why?
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Why?
Why not?
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Why not?
I’m guessing you have a reason. So, why?
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I’m guessing you have a reason. So, why?
I think he’s good at his job. Can never have too many of them in your fr My office.
https://www.chargers.com/news/los-angeles-chargers-general-manager-search-ian-cunningham
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I think he’s good at his job. Can never have too many of them in your fr My office.
https://www.chargers.com/news/los-angeles-chargers-general-manager-search-ian-cunningham
Which players is he responsible for?
So apparently you’re good with Poles, too? I say this a bit tongue in cheek, so Fields is the whole problem?
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Which players is he responsible for?
So apparently you’re good with Poles, too? I say this a bit tongue in cheek, so Fields is the whole problem?
Yes, I’m ok with Poles. And yes my issue is with Fields.
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This is nuts. Bears could keep it going with MHJ!
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Women and football… shake my head
https://x.com/nfldraft/status/1755963170361843804?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Women and football… shake my head
https://x.com/nfldraft/status/1755963170361843804?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
LOL yeah that's not gonna happen
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Women and football… shake my head
https://x.com/nfldraft/status/1755963170361843804?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Saw that, that mock is whacked. I’m sure she knows that, yet they ran with it.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/caleb-williams-might-be-the-new-jalen-carter-for-ryan-poles/
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The more I watch and read about Caleb the more I think this is true. I think the ideal situation for Caleb would be to get drafted by a good QB coach (Andy Reid type) and sit for a year the way Mahomes did. The talent is obviously there, but the flaws are evident. Doesn’t play in structure, questions about his ability to read the field, ball security a big issue, never played under center. I see Caleb probably closer to Kyler Murray than Patrick Mahomes at this point. I suspect Caleb is more committed than Kyler, but I’d like to see Caleb taking less receipts on social media.
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Brock Bowers looks shockingly unathletic here lol. But I’ve seen pictures in pads that tell a different story.
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Your boy, Danny Parkins finally got something right! 🤣
https://x.com/dannyparkins/status/1757155110516322669?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Your boy, Danny Parkins finally got something right! 🤣
https://x.com/dannyparkins/status/1757155110516322669?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
He's got a face for radio that's for sure
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Your boy, Danny Parkins finally got something right! 🤣
https://x.com/dannyparkins/status/1757155110516322669?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
The Score is taking a page out of the Skip Bayless playbook for ratings these days.
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He's got a face for radio that's for sure
Bet he couldn’t throw a football past the end of the studio
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Some good offseason dates and schedule in the link…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39484404/nfl-offseason-priorities-2024-key-dates-league-questions-storylines
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Draft expert Matt Miller just said he thinks it’s at least 50/50 JJ McCarthy gets drafted over Drake Maye.
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Interesting topic (obviously). I find it hard to call quarterbacks who didn’t get a 2nd contract with their teams, or teams that traded you to upgrade “hits.” I think calling Murray a “hit” is slightly generous as well.
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2024/4/3/24118088/examining-the-history-of-quarterbacks-nfl-draft-cam-newton-caleb-williams-andrew-luck-joe-burrow
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Found this tidbit about the Bills trading Diggs. If the Bears can trade back at 9 and get a first next year and their first this year and a couple extra picks this year I think you do it…
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If Odunze, Nabers, or Alt is there I’d have a hard time passing one of those guys up. If they are all gone I’d be fine trading down 15 spots. Would be pretty happy to get Johnny Newton and a 2025 1st rounder. Newton could be top 20 though.
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If Odunze, Nabers, or Alt is there I’d have a hard time passing one of those guys up. If they are all gone I’d be fine trading down 15 spots. Would be pretty happy to get Johnny Newton and a 2025 1st rounder. Newton could be top 20 though.
Agreed.
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Who knows if this is really true, but it’s fun to post here and see reactions to it…
https://x.com/nfcnorthnewss/status/1777754530530177477?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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He misspelled No one. ;D
"What nobody realizes is if the bears don't win ryan poles won't be around in 2026 to make that pick. Maybe even after 2025."
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Who knows if this is really true, but it’s fun to post here and see reactions to it…
https://x.com/nfcnorthnewss/status/1777754530530177477?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Again, I get the case for moving on but Washington will probably be drafting pretty high the next couple years so Caleb better hit.
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Again, I get the case for moving on but Washington will probably be drafting pretty high the next couple years so Caleb better hit.
Odds are he won't.
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Thems the odds, I suppose.
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If that’s all it takes, yes, I’d do it…
https://x.com/irishbearsshow/status/1778139367556415578?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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If that’s all it takes, yes, I’d do it…
https://x.com/irishbearsshow/status/1778139367556415578?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
A nice little plug for their Some Reports Today Suggest podcast.
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If that’s all it takes, yes, I’d do it…
https://x.com/irishbearsshow/status/1778139367556415578?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Not sure I envision that happening, but I would not oppose it.
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If that’s all it takes, yes, I’d do it…
https://x.com/irishbearsshow/status/1778139367556415578?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
And yet today's fishwrap is mentioning the Vikes possibly having to give up the 11th and 23rd pick in this year's draft plus next year's 1st rounder, to move up to #5 to take JJ McCarthy.
Da Bears: we'll give you a 6th rounder in next year's draft but that's because we're not picking McCarthy at #5.
The Chargers are mulling over both offers. :D
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And yet today's fishwrap is mentioning the Vikes possibly having to give up the 11th and 23rd pick in this year's draft plus next year's 1st rounder, to move up to #5 to take JJ McCarthy.
Da Bears: we'll give you a 6th rounder in next year's draft but that's because we're not picking McCarthy at #5.
The Chargers are mulling over both offers. :D
Can't believe the Vikes didn't want Sh1t QB1!
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Can't believe the Vikes didn't want Sh1t QB1!
Doubt Poles was keen on trading him to a division rival. Yeah, I know “he should have, he sucks.”
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Can't believe the Vikes didn't want Sh1t QB1!
Right?! I’ve heard He is H1M from LOTS of people!!
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Can't believe the Vikes didn't want Sh1t QB1!
Cooler heads prevailed. They're hoping for more value by keeping their 6th round pick and they don't know how to use a wingback.
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Right?! I’ve heard He is H1M from LOTS of people!!
You like to talk about “weird.” Your need to incessantly pile on a guy who you claim to “like” and isn’t here anymore is something I would call “weird.”
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Cooler heads prevailed. They're hoping for more value by keeping their 6th round pick and they don't know how to use a wingback.
Would be funny if they trade up for McCarthy and he flops.
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Doubt Poles was keen on trading him to a division rival. Yeah, I know “he should have, he sucks.”
Second part is true. Poles failed again if he had the chance to trade him in the division and did not.
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Would be funny if they trade up for McCarthy and he flops.
Let's hope
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Tempo, your boy, Dan Orlovsky called out here and looks like a fucking idiot in this thread exchange! 😂
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1778423685344600151?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Wasn’t aware Orlavasky was “my boy.” I seem to have a lot of “boys.”
If you want to call JT O’Sullivan and Justin Fields my “boys,” I guess that’s fair. Not sure who else qualifies.
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Tempo, your boy, Dan Orlovsky called out here and looks like a fucking idiot in this thread exchange! 😂
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1778423685344600151?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
He’s not the only one that flipped. And IIRC most who flipped seemed to do so after change was pretty likely.
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Guess you could call Chase Daniel one of my “boys.” He flipped after it was obvious Fields was gone. Not sure I ever heard him say it directly, but I’m 99% sure O’Sullivan said he’d draft Caleb over keeping Fields.
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Tempo, your boy, Dan Orlovsky called out here and looks like a fucking idiot in this thread exchange! 😂
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1778423685344600151?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
What is it that makes him look like an idiot?
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Would be funny if they trade up for McCarthy and he flops.
Why do you want people to "flop". If they don't have what it takes, they can flop on their own and without your help.
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Why do you want people to "flop". If they don't have what it takes, they can flop on their own and without your help.
Why did you want Purdue to flop? They can flop without your help.
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I don’t really care one way or the other, I have no vested interest in JJ McCarthy. I’m always down for some division rival floppage, though.
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What is it that makes him look like an idiot?
Did you not read the damn thread?!
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1778425809151086686?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Why did you want Purdue to flop? They can flop without your help.
Losing a game is not the same as having a career flop.
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I read a couple of posts. I wasn’t planning on doing a deep dive.
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Losing a game is not the same as having a career flop.
Oh…
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Losing a game is not the same as having a career flop.
Fuck JJ McCarthy and that offensive PI to beat the Illini. Hope he sucks in the pros.
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Fuck JJ McCarthy and that offensive PI to beat the Illini. Hope he sucks in the pros.
I second this post…