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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on December 10, 2023, 11:36:42 AM
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I have a good feeling about this one. I think the Bears defense has a good day, and the Bears come out with the win.
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Go Bears! Hope Mrs. Jobu is not cold and wants to leave at half.
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Should’ve been a penalty on Campbell hitting Fields. He never gets those calls for some reason.
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Don’t like the decision to take the ball first.
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Should’ve been a penalty on Campbell hitting Fields. He never gets those calls for some reason.
It’s insane.
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Go Bears! Hope Mrs. Jobu is not cold and wants to leave at half.
Because women are weak, amirite?!
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Fields again hanging on to the ball and not throwing it, but instead running with TONS of time in the pocket.
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Because women are weak, amirite?!
Sure, if you say so.
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Line holding up so far.
Fields still indecisive and needs to secure the ball better, but obviously if you can run for 30 yards a drive that's likely to work out. He's definitely electric with his legs.
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Fields again hanging on to the ball and not throwing it, but instead running with TONS of time in the pocket.
TONS
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TONS
Come on, he's had lots of time in the pocket.
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That was a ridiculous catch by LaPorta
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Come on, he's had lots of time in the pocket.
Are we sure people were open?
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That was a ridiculous catch by LaPorta
An even better throw against good coverage.
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Blitz him.
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Blitz him.
AOTC
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Are we sure people were open?
No, nor did I say anything about that.
I said he's had lots of time. Line has held up.
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Are we sure people were open?
NFL open or Fields open?
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Are we sure people were open?
NFL Open or Fields Open?
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NFL open or Fields open?
LOL
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No, nor did I say anything about that.
I said he's had lots of time. Line has held up.
And yet you lined up to support JJs criticism without knowing if guys were actually open.
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NFL Open or Fields Open?
Good post. I beat you to it…
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That was funny.
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And yet you lined up to support JJs criticism without knowing if guys were actually open.
You mocked me for saying he has had tons of time in the pocket.
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And yet you lined up to support JJs criticism without knowing if guys were actually open.
What the fuck are you talking about
I said he has had lots of time to throw. It wasn't a criticism at all, let alone someone ELSE's criticism.
You mocked her for saying Fields had TONS of time to throw. He HAS had a ton of time to throw. She was right.
Are you really so deep into the Fields cult that you take someone complimenting the play of another unit on our offense as an implicit criticism of Fields? Like, Jesus.
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Well I think we know who the starting RB is.
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What the fuck are you talking about
I said he has had lots of time to throw. It wasn't a criticism at all, let alone someone ELSE's criticism.
You mocked her for saying Fields had TONS of time to throw. He HAS had a ton of time to throw. She was right.
I mocked him because of his knee jerk predictable take.
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Now THAT was an awesome play with his legs.
I still want to see him use his arm, but yeah, can't deny the athleticism.
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I mocked him because of his knee jerk predictable take.
Had to point out because if he sucked you’d use that as an excuse. Don’t lie. Also he is electric with his legs and has been so far, but we need a QB to throw the ball!!! He won’t fucking do it!
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I mocked him because of his knee jerk predictable take.
The take that Fields has had a lot of time to throw?
It WAS a predictable "take", I suppose, because it was obvious to anyone watching the game. Fields has had a lot of time to throw. He's made some great plays in the backfield to avoid sacks too, to his credit.
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Holy shit.
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There are 6 quarterbacks in the NFL that can make that throw.
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They didn't throw a late hit flag on that?
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There are 6 quarterbacks in the NFL that can make that throw.
Hahahaha
It was a great throw, no argument there.
A lot of guys can make it with the consistency that Fields has so far. The good QBs make those throws consistently.
You're SO desperate to slob this dude's knob. It's fucking weird.
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A LOT OF GUYS.
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Throw the ball away!!!!
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Patrick misses the blitzer. Typical. We are not good on obvious passes t downs, and yes, Fields could be better in those situations as well.
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A LOT OF GUYS.
"6 QBs in the NFL" are capable of throwing a 5 yard outside shoulder hitch into a tight window.
Like come on. it was a great throw, no argument there. It was not some absurd, exceptional throw that most NFL QBs are just incapable of making. That's ridiculous.
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Hahahaha
It was a great throw, no argument there.
A lot of guys can make it with the consistency that Fields has so far. The good QBs make those throws consistently.
You're SO desperate to slob this dude's knob. It's fucking weird.
Great post. You’ve missed most of this the past year while you were gone. It’s really fucking weird!!
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Throw the ball away!!!!
He was in the pocket. You want him to take a flag?
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So WEIRD!
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So WEIRD!
It honestly is.
Like I said earlier, it's uncannily similar to how JeffFrank argued for Weber. Like, VERY similar.
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"6 QBs in the NFL" are capable of throwing a 5 yard outside shoulder hitch into a tight window.
Like come on. it was a great throw, no argument there. It was not some absurd, exceptional throw that most NFL QBs are just incapable of making. That's ridiculous.
He was perfectly defended. Most quarterbacks don’t have the zip to make that throw. The vast majority of NFL quarterbacks get picked off there.
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He was perfectly defended. Most quarterbacks don’t have the zip to make that throw. The vast majority of NFL quarterbacks get picked off there.
Fields usually gets picked off there too. It was a great throw.
I'd argue at least 2/3rds of NFL starting QBs (not counting injuries) can make that throw at least occasionally.
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It honestly is.
Like I said earlier, it's uncannily similar to how JeffFrank argued for Weber. Like, VERY similar.
VERY SIMILAR.
Fuck off. And you say I’m the one trying to IVALIDATE you. Look at your posts.
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If the Bears move off of Fields it will be a justifiable move.
I…wouldn’t do it.
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Come on guys, keep them at arms’ length.
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VERY SIMILAR.
Fuck off. And you say I’m the one trying to IVALIDATE you. Look at your posts.
You can’t see that you have Fields’ dick in your mouth?! Seriously?! It’s blatantly obvious. Maybe when you start choking, you’ll take it out. Fuck man. The shit you say about him is weird as fuck!
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VERY SIMILAR.
Fuck off. And you say I’m the one trying to IVALIDATE you. Look at your posts.
Classic Merryman stuff.
Remember all those times JeffFrank would come back after Weber had the occasional good win and be like SEE I TOLD YOU!
That's exactly how it felt reading "6 NFL QBs can make that throw."
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If the Bears move off of Fields it will be a justifiable move.
I…wouldn’t do it.
How many fucking times do I have to say this before it is comprehended?
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If the Bears move off of Fields it will be a justifiable move.
I…wouldn’t do it.
Based off what?!
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The decision to go for it was spicy.
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Based off what?!
Fuck you, that’s what.
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If the Bears move off of Fields it will be a justifiable move.
I…wouldn’t do it.
You wanted me to say something like this previously. Here's what I will say:
I couldn't find a way to personally justify keeping him. That isn't because I think he's absolutely awful necessarily - it's because the Bears have a once in a generation opportunity to draft a top QB, on a cheap deal for longer, and Fields hasn't shown me enough as a passer for me to justify passing on that opportunity.
He is absolutely an electric athlete who can make plays with his legs, and in that way I see why someone might say "give him another year" - but it's far more important to me, especially in a situation where after next year you're going to end up paying a LOT to keep him, that he can reliably move the ball with his arm. If he can't really prove that he can do that with consistency in these last few weeks, I don't see a way to justify passing on the rare opportunity the Bears have at the top of the upcoming draft.
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You can’t see that you have Fields’ dick in your mouth?! Seriously?! It’s blatantly obvious. Maybe when you start choking, you’ll take it out. Fuck man. The shit you say about him is weird as fuck!
He said with no sense of irony.
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You wanted me to say something like this previously. Here's what I will say:
I couldn't find a way to personally justify keeping him. That isn't because I think he's absolutely awful necessarily - it's because the Bears have a once in a generation opportunity to draft a top QB, on a cheap deal for longer, and Fields hasn't shown me enough as a passer for me to justify passing on that opportunity.
He is absolutely an electric athlete who can make plays with his legs, and in that way I see why someone might say "give him another year" - but it's far more important to me, especially in a situation where after next year you're going to end up paying a LOT to keep him, that he can reliably move the ball with his arm. If he can't really prove that he can do that with consistency in these last few weeks, I don't see a way to justify passing on the rare opportunity the Bears have at the top of the upcoming draft.
I second this. Well said.
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Kid in a candy srore with money in his pocket approach to GMing. That’s one way to do it, I guess. You’re free to your opinion. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. I just wouldn’t go that route. Can we talk about the game the Bears are dominating?
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That call sucked.
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Bet Tempo loved that playcall.
Awful.
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Just give it to the actual RB or sneak it Getsy, you stupid fuck.
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What the hell was that?
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Bet Tempo loved that playcall.
Awful.
Lol check the post made at exactly the same time as this one.
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Just give the ball to Foreman you stupid fucking towel boy.
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I’m on record that that was a bad play call by Getsy…
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My bad, 18 seconds before your post.
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Getsy back to being Getsy there.
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Montez Sweat sighting!
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That horseshit play call is about to flip the game.
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Getsy should return to his job as Aaron Rodgers errand boy
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Damn, Goff just made a throw that only 6 QBs in the NFL can make! Wow! Amazing shit!
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Kid in a candy srore with money in his pocket approach to GMing. That’s one way to do it, I guess. You’re free to your opinion. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. I just wouldn’t go that route. Can we talk about the game the Bears are dominating?
No, it's the "opportunity cost" approach to GM.
Here we have two options at QB.
One is a guy with 35 starts in the NFL who has yet to show any level of consistency as a passer. He's extremely explosive with his legs, but also has bad tendencies - bad picks, turnovers at inopportune times, indecisive with the ball, fumbles too often. He very well could turn into an elite QB, but has not shown that ability thusfar through 35 starts. After next year they will likely have to give him $100m to be their QB, and also cut severely into the Bears' cap space - you've brought up Mahomes a bunch of times, but even Mahomes' play has kind of fallen off as the Chiefs have had to cut other talent because of his contract (which he definitely had proven he deserved, obviously). You like to complain about how the Bears haven't had enough talent around Fields, but when we have to pay him a big contract it will be that much more difficult to put talent around him.
The second option is an incoming rookie. There are questions about him, as there are about any NFL QB prospect - but most of them aren't "on-the-field" type questions. On the field, he's been consistently very good and if he'd been eligible a year ago, he'd have probably been the top QB taken at that time. You have him on a cheap contract for 4 years, during which you can continue to spend that extra available money to build around him. They will also likely have another pick in the top half of the first round if not higher to give him a weapon, or improve the defense. There are definitely risks involved, as there are ANY time you spend a high draft pick. The ceiling in terms of how good he can be relative to Fields is higher, but the floor is also lower. The financial/capital risk is not nearly as high as it will be to keep him and hope you can figure out the most important position next year in a make-or-break year for Fields with 9 figures on the line.
Since you were flippant about my view ("kid in a candy store with money style of GM", lol), I'll call your view the "Beanie Baby Collector style of GM". You know the thing hasn't been worth all that much thusfar, but you're holding out hope that if you just give it a little more time it'll end up being the winning lottery ticket.
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This game is likely at least 13-0 if Getsy doesn’t get cute.
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LOL, that was a similar play to what the Bears ran on 4th and 1.
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That sack is all on Fields.
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Come on, Justin.
The announcer did just say they had great coverage though
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Nate Davis...ouch
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Fields needs to cut that "just toss it up out of a sack" play out of his game.
It was fine this time, obviously, but far too often that ball ends up being a duck.
Sometimes you've just lost a play. Don't put the ball in the air.
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Davis got smashed there.
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Fields needs to cut that "just toss it up out of a sack" play out of his game.
It was fine this time, obviously, but far too often that ball ends up being a duck.
Sometimes you've just lost a play. Don't put the ball in the air.
Won’t disagree with that.
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Yep, the play was lost pretty much right off the snap.
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One fuckface call on 4th and 1 allowed Detroit to flip this game. SMH. This team isn’t good enough yet to overcome boneheaded coaching.
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One fuckface call on 4th and 1 allowed Detroit to flip this game. SMH. This team isn’t good enough yet to overcome boneheaded coaching.
hahaha
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One fuckface call on 4th and 1 allowed Detroit to flip this game. SMH. This team isn’t good enough yet to overcome boneheaded coaching.
Your boy Ben Johnson called almost the exact same thing on 4th dawn btw…
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Your boy Ben Johnson called almost the exact same thing on 4th dawn btw…
it was 3rd.
Very different situation IMO
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Now, if Getsy handed the ball to a tight end in that situation he would for sure take some heat for it.
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Both fair.
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LOL OCs. Get over yourselves.
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LOL OCs. Get over yourselves.
I posted this before reading Spark’s comment FTR
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Way too easy on that TD.
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What a sickening turn of events.
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JFC what horrific 8-10 minutes. First half went about exactly as scripted for much of it and they are losing. SMH
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Hell of a play from that DB
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Someone block Hutchinson
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One fuckface call on 4th and 1 allowed Detroit to flip this game. SMH. This team isn’t good enough yet to overcome boneheaded coaching.
So much for the improved defense, and offense, in the 2d quarter
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Jenkins beaten easily there.
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Someone block Hutchinson
Someone throwing with anticipation would help too
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JFC what horrific 8-10 minutes. First half went about exactly as scripted for much of it and they are losing. SMH
Offense and defense both had a bad 2nd quarter.
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So much for the improved defense, and offense, in the 2d quarter
I didn’t have to see the name to know who posted this.
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Jenkins beaten easily there.
OL and DL look really fixed in that 2d quarter.
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Offense and defense both had a bad 2nd quarter.
There you go, Tempo
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Offense and defense both had a bad 2nd quarter.
The game turned dramatically at 11:39 with the idiotic 4th down call. The Bears almost surely go up 13-0 if they just give it to a guy who’s used to carrying it in that situation.
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The game turned dramatically at 11:39 with the idiotic 4th down call. The Bears almost surely go up 13-0 if they just give it to a guy who’s used to carrying it in that situation.
Yes, in the second quarter neither unit looked good and they blew their 10-0 lead.
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“This kid is special, he’s going to make the choice they have at the top of the draft a difficult one to make.” - Howie Long
Apparently Howie hasn’t consulted the HQ2.
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Yes, in the second quarter neither unit looked good and they blew their 10-0 lead.
True, but an example of how this team can’t overcome boneheaded coaching. Getsy can fuck himself. I hope he’s fired tomorrow.
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“This kid is special, he’s going to make the choice they have at the top of the draft a difficult one to make.” - Howie Long
Apparently Howie hasn’t consulted the HQ2.
Howie Long's Lackey
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Howie Long's Lackey
I like it.
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You literally saw (and we know) he can run. Nothing says he’s a good QB though. It’s all his legs and athleticism. He constantly, as you saw that first half, holds onto the ball way too long. That half changed nothing in his evaluation for the future.
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“This kid is special, he’s going to make the choice they have at the top of the draft a difficult one to make.” - Howie Long
Apparently Howie hasn’t consulted the HQ2.
Oh look, appealing to the credentials of someone who agrees with him to invalidate the opinions of those who don't! Who'da thunk it.
Fields has disappeared after that playcall you were so mad about. The offense has produced -15 yards since then, and Fields has taken multiple sacks and threw a dangerous AF ball out of a sack on 3rd and 18 from his own 15. Those things cannot happen. That isn't ALL because of a bad 4th down playcall, no matter how much you want it to be.
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I am fucking seething right now. Playing in the NFL is hard. Not making totally fucking boneheaded calls shouldnt be as difficult.
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You literally saw (and we know) he can run. Nothing says he’s a good QB though. It’s all his legs and athleticism. He constantly, as you saw that first half, holds onto the ball way too long. That half changed nothing in his evaluation for the future.
That throw with 20 whatever seconds left was way too late. Indicative of the problem he has.
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I am fucking seething right now. Playing in the NFL is hard. Not making totally fucking boneheaded calls shouldnt be as difficult.
Defense needed to hold them instead of letting them walk down the field.
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Oh look, appealing to the credentials of someone who agrees with him to invalidate the opinions of those who don't! Who'da thunk it.
Fields has disappeared after that playcall you were so mad about. The offense has produced -15 yards since then, and Fields has taken multiple sacks and threw a dangerous AF ball out of a sack on 3rd and 18 from his own 15. Those things cannot happen. That isn't ALL because of a bad 4th down playcall, no matter how much you want it to be.
It’s called a counter argument. So apparently I’ll have to say the decision to move one from Fields can be justified a few thousand more times.
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I am fucking seething right now. Playing in the NFL is hard. Not making totally fucking boneheaded calls shouldnt be as difficult.
You’re trying too hard. One Getsy mess up you’re making extreme comments. One basic Field’s throw and you say only 6 others can do that. Fucking weird!
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It’s called a counter argument. So apparently I’ll have to say the decision to move one from Fields can be justified a few thousand more times.
You did NOT use it as a counter argument. You directly appealed to Howie Long's credentials and compared them to people who disagreed with him to invalidate counter arguments. You literally said the snarky "Apparently Howie hasn’t consulted the HQ2." shit. You're doing the 8 year old "look I'm not touching it!" thing, and we all see through it.
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Defense needed to hold them instead of letting them walk down the field.
True, but I also don’t expect perfection. This is one of the NFLs best offenses. The Bears can’t overcome the Lions if Getsy is setting the Lions up for success. It should have been at least 13-0.
But Getsy got stupid going with the shotgun sneak and then giving the ball to a WR on 4th and 1.
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You did NOT use it as a counter argument. You directly appealed to Howie Long's credentials and compared them to people who disagreed with him to invalidate counter arguments. You literally said the snarky "Apparently Howie hasn’t consulted the HQ2." shit. You're doing the 8 year old "look I'm not touching it!" thing, and we all see through it.
I am not fucking doing this anymore. All I did was use his words to show that maybe the decision isn’t so fucking obvious. JFCx40
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I am not fucking doing this anymore. All I did was use his words to show that maybe the decision isn’t so fucking obvious. JFCx40
Yes. Troy Aikman and Howie Long agree with you.
We don't. Other NFL people don't, also.
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Howie didn’t even say “they must keep Fields.” Only that it is a tough choice. JFCx100000
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Howie didn’t even say “they must keep Fields.” Only that it is a tough choice. JFCx100000
Cool.
In the future if you don't want to come off like you're invalidating opinions you don't agree with, don't do the "but what do they know?!" or "I guess they didn't consult with YOU" thing. That's a pretty direct and obvious attempt to use someone else's credibility to invalidate opinions that disagree with you.
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Howie didn’t even say “they must keep Fields.” Only that it is a tough choice. JFCx100000
You do see it’s because of his legs and athleticism though, right? I’m trying to be sincere and in saying this. He hasn’t shown anything passing wise to justify it. It’s always those things. That’s not a franchise QB.
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Yes. Troy Aikman and Howie Long agree with you.
We don't. Other NFL people don't, also.
YAY!!!
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Is Taylor really the most explosive guy we can find to return punts?
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Yes. Troy Aikman and Howie Long agree with you.
We don't. Other NFL people don't, also.
Which seem to indicate that the choice isn’t so super obvious, no?
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So DJ Moore, they just said had zero targets all game. Do you think Getsy is really going to call a game with giving him zero targets? Or is it more plausible that Fields is holding onto the ball and not actually throwing to Moore and that’s what’s happening? There’s no offensive coordinator in the world that would do that.
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You’re trying too hard. One Getsy mess up you’re making extreme comments. One basic Field’s throw and you say only 6 others can do that. Fucking weird!
It should’ve gone to 13-0. It didn’t because our OC is an idiot.
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Did Moore just get hurt?
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Fuck.
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Holy shit, Velus Jones sighting.
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Which seem to indicate that the choice isn’t so super obvious, no?
I've only given my opinion as to whether the choice is easy. I've made clear my opinion doesn't matter.
You don't care though. You're like an ankle biter dog, you just want to yap.
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Much better drive from Fields there even though they didn't get 6. Was a smart decision to throw it through the end zone.
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I've only given my opinion as to whether the choice is easy. I've made clear my opinion doesn't matter.
You don't care though. You're like an ankle biter dog, you just want to yap.
“I think the decision to move on from Fields can be justified, but I wouldn’t do it.” - Troy Aikman’s Lackey
“How the fuck can you say that?!” - Spark Mandrill
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It should’ve gone to 13-0. It didn’t because our OC is an idiot.
I love this shit. The Bears could end up losing by three TDs and you'd be here ranting about that play call early in the 2nd quarter.
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“I think the decision to move on from Fields can be justified, but I wouldn’t do it.” - Troy Aikman’s Lackey
“How the fuck can you say that?!” - Spark Mandrill
"Justin Fields is a can't-miss NFL Quarterback. He is the only answer, the Bears cannot move on from a guy so obviously the next Tom Brady."
- Tempo34
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I love this shit. The Bears could end up losing by three TDs and you'd be here ranting about that play call early in the 2nd quarter.
Because good coaching doesn’t put their teams in a position to lose. It was a blatantly stupid decision.
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"Justin Fields is a can't-miss NFL Quarterback. He is the only answer, the Bears cannot move on from a guy so obviously the next Tom Brady."
- Tempo34
This should go in the favorite Bible verses thread…
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"Justin Fields is a can't-miss NFL Quarterback. He is the only answer, the Bears cannot move on from a guy so obviously the next Tom Brady."
- Tempo34
I think Strawman Mandrill said that.
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Taylor getting it done.
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Because good coaching doesn’t put their teams in a position to lose. It was a blatantly stupid decision.
But it was one bad decision, a quarter and a half ago.
There will be bad playcalls even with good coordinators. Gotta move past it. It's absurd to pretend one bad playcall in the beginning of the second quarter is the only factor.
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I think Strawman Mandrill said that.
Same guy who said the quote you just attributed to me, yeah.
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Brisker, c’mon.
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Taylor getting it done.
He would’ve scored if it wasn’t for Getsy…
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This should go in the favorite Bible verses thread…
Boosting my own good post 😂
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But it was one bad decision, a quarter and a half ago.
There will be bad playcalls even with good coordinators. Gotta move past it. It's absurd to pretend one bad playcall in the beginning of the second quarter is the only factor.
Didn’t say it was the only factor, but it flipped the script.
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Getsy has continuously made questionable calls to put his team behind the 8 ball.
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There you go, Trent Taylor.
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Throw the fucking ball Fields!!!!!!!!!!!! He caused that fucking holding penalty!!!!
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My God he had all fucking day to throw!!!!!!
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That best field position was just negated because of Fields. Changed that whole drive.
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The ONLY thing I have have TRIED to impress on you is that the decision isn’t so clear cut and ultra OBVIOUS.
I am done with this discussion.
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Didn’t say it was the only factor, but it flipped the script.
The other things that flipped the script were the offense getting -15 yards on the next two drives, while the defense gave up two touchdowns. I'd argue, actually, that they were far bigger factors than the one play call in "flipping the script".
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The ONLY thing I have have TRIED to impress on you is that the decision isn’t so clear cut and ultra OBVIOUS.
I am done with this discussion.
I'm glad you think so, but again - you've also pretty blatantly tried to use the credentials of others to invalidate my opinion that to me, it's a pretty easy decision based on the actual results so far from Justin Fields.
You've also ignored a number of times I've pointed out that my opinion is totally immaterial to what the Bears will actually do.
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Come on Justin, throw it.
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I'm glad you think so, but again - you've also pretty blatantly tried to use the credentials of others to invalidate my opinion that to me, it's a pretty easy decision based on the actual results so far from Justin Fields.
You need to learn the difference between providing an opposing view and “invalidating” an opinion. I can only say so many fucking times your position is justifiable.
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Fields throws a pick 6, but it did not "flip the script" against Denver. That game was all the defense's fault.
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You need to learn the difference between providing an opposing view and “invalidating” an opinion. I can only say so many fucking times your position is justifiable.
If you thought my opinion was valid, you would not do the "but I guess they didn't consult with YOU" thing every time you find someone who agrees with you.
You're welcome to pretend otherwise, but that's pretty transparent.
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Come on Justin, throw it.
He won’t! He can’t anticipate! That’s what we’re trying to show and tell you, damnit! It’s frustrating as fuck! And you’re blaming Getsy.” From 2”almost two quarters ago. Great Field position and Fields causes a holding penalty and doesn’t throw the ball. Negative yards and fucked that whole opportunity up.
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Fields throws a pick 6, but it did not "flip the script" against Denver. That game was all the defense's fault.
It was a fumble.
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Move the pocket. We almost never do well on 3rd and long from the pocket.
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Move the pocket. We almost never do well on 3rd and long from the pocket.
Can you at least acknowledge that this is in part because "in the pocket on obvious passing downs" is a pretty clear weakness of our quarterback?
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Fields throws a pick 6, but it did not "flip the script" against Denver. That game was all the defense's fault.
I said the defense played a significant role. I love that you expect the defense to keep Detroit scoreless but give them a pass on a putrid 4th quarter against Denver. Couldn’t be that it helps your narrative could it?
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Bears defense looking good the last few drives.
Need to score on this next one on offense.
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I said the defense played a significant role. I love that you expect the defense to keep Detroit scoreless but give them a pass on a putrid 4th quarter against Denver. Couldn’t be that it helps your narrative could it?
Who expected the defense to keep Detroit scoreless?
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Here we go. At the 50. See what Fields can do. Gotta capitalize!
Here’s a great opportunity for Fields on this drive.
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Great throw from Fields on 3rd there, and great catch from Kmet.
The second down play wasn't good though IMO, the throw to that guy on the sideline was there and he waited a step too long to get rid of it.
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Yes, nice throw and catch. Should not be enough to overturn the call.
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I don't think you can overturn that
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Dumb challenge by Campbell
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They challenged that quick, and obviously without much evidence. Pretty poor decision from Campbell IMO
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That backhand pass CANNOT HAPPEN man.
It cannot happen. Jesus.
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Holy shit!
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Hate having our QB taking huge hits running up the middle too.
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What the fuck is Fields doing, man?!
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Terrible drive from Fields. Just awful.
Two consecutive plays he was just fucking begging to turn the ball over.
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That backhand pass CANNOT HAPPEN man.
It cannot happen. Jesus.
Receiver would have been better off not catching it too.
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It was a fumble.
That occured after the pick 6
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Nice pitch and catch there
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Lol WTF are they doing?
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That occured after the pick 6
He didn't throw a pick 6 against Denver. He fumbled and they returned it for a TD.
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Nice play there.
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That's the luckiest shit I ever saw in my life, hahahaha.
We will take it.
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Hahahahahaha thanks for the assist from the the Detroit D line. What a bonehead jump
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That TD pass was fucking pretty.
The XP however, was...not.
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Hahahahahaha thanks for the assist from the the Detroit D line. What a bonehead jump
Terrible coverage too. No fuckin' idea what they were doing on that play.
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In no way does that lucky shit make up for any of the terrible fucking play before it, but I’ll take it too 😂
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That’s like when the 8th grader takes a 30 foot shot and the coach is like “no, no, yes!!!”
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That fucking missed EP reminds me of the 1 point loss from last year. Fuck.
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Terrible coverage too. No fuckin' idea what they were doing on that play.
No idea either unless they simply weren't expecting the Bears to actually run a play.
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As bad as the jump was, why do you have DJ Moore in single press coverage with no over-the-top help on 4th and 13?
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Yes!!!
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Need another touchdown here. Put this away.
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As bad as the jump was, why do you have DJ Moore in single press coverage with no over-the-top help on 4th and 13?
I thought it looks more than obvious they were just trying to get the 5 yards. Incredibly dump play from Detroit.
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He didn't throw a pick 6 against Denver. He fumbled and they returned it for a TD.
You are correct. It was a scoop and score and the INT was later.
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I thought it looks more than obvious they were just trying to get the 5 yards. Incredibly dump play from Detroit.
That's mindblowingly bad. Even if you're not expecting the Bears to run a play, you have to guard their best player.
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Goff has been a turnover machine lately. Ouch
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Goff has been a turnover machine lately. Ouch
Bears defense has been a turnover machine lately too. They need to end up with more points off all the turnovers.
A TD here would go a long way.
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Goff has been a turnover machine lately. Ouch
Always has been when you get pressure on him.
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As bad as the Bears were in the 2nd quarter, the Lions were as bad or worse in the 3rd. Really terrible at all levels.
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Schlereth said Getsy had a great designed play!
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Fucking screen.
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Great play design on the play with the Kmet drop (that was a good throw, just a tough catch to make).
Then a terrible tunnel screen call on the next play.
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Fucking screen.
Previous play he totally missed a wide open Kmet dude…
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Fields definitely very athletic. Quite a play.
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Previous play he totally missed a wide open Kmet dude…
No he didn't. Ball went right through Kmet's arms.
It was a tough angle, sure, but he by no means "totally missed a wide open Kmet". That should've been a touchdown.
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Terrible decision to go for 2 compounded by a bad play
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Now here they are in the same position as they were in Detroit. Let's see if they learned how to finish.
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Fields definitely very athletic. Quite a play.
Agreed. Nobody is questioning that though. We need him to pass the ball and see it or I’d say move on from him. Those plays really do nothing for us in evaluating him in my opinion.
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Schlereth said Getsy had a great designed play!
Extend Getsy now!
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Agreed. Nobody is questioning that though. We need him to pass the ball and see it or I’d say move on from him. Those plays really do nothing for us in evaluating him in my opinion.
Lol JFC enjoy the moment at least
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Extend Getsy now!
Extend Fields! He ran the ball really good!
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Defense wrecking them right now.
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What a terrible play call
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Lol JFC enjoy the moment at least
Can’t. We win it’s a worse pick and does nothing to evaluate our future regarding Fields passing. It’s a double whammy.
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Detroit should have challenged that spot.
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No fucking idea what the Lions coaching staff is doing, my goodness.
Their playcalling this second half makes Luke Getsy look like Andy Reid.
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Getsy rubbing off on Ben Johnson lol
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That was worse than a Getsy play call. I'm a hard no on Ben Johnson.
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Can’t. We win it’s a worse pick and does nothing to evaluate our future regarding Fields passing. It’s a double whammy.
Lololololol
Can’t have our dynamic quarterback making dynamic plays. Classic.
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It is hard to believe the Lion are 9-3, but that is what it says on my TV screen
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I would have run it on 3rd down there, but that works.
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Just fucking run it. Now is when you get conservative.
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Bad miss there
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Would be up 16 if just, successfully, kicked the last XP
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Lololololol
Can’t have our dynamic quarterback making dynamic plays. Classic.
He has definitely made some dynamic plays - particularly with his legs.
He's also made quite a few that are just unacceptable plays from a QB with 35 starts under his belt.
Agree, or no?
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Don’t like the perimeter pass in that situation.
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He has definitely made some dynamic plays - particularly with his legs.
He's also made quite a few that are just unacceptable plays from a QB with 35 starts under his belt.
Agree, or no?
JFC
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You ever watched Matthew Stafford play? He makes “unacceptable” plays all the time. JFC
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JFC
That's a no? He hasn't made quite a few that are unacceptable?
The only passing TD he has thrown today was on a 4th and 13 absolute meltdown from his opponent, after two consecutive plays that he was just begging to turn the ball over. Those plays cannot happen. Do you agree?
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Haha the Jets are smashing the Texans. Gotta love the NFL.
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Come on, defense. Fuck
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That's a no? He hasn't made quite a few that are unacceptable?
The only passing TD he has thrown today was on a 4th and 13 absolute meltdown from his opponent, after two consecutive plays that he was just begging to turn the ball over. Those plays cannot happen. Do you agree?
FUCK OFF. You are ruining a rare good Bears game for me.
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You ever watched Matthew Stafford play? He makes “unacceptable” plays all the time. JFC
You really want to compare Justin Fields to Matthew Stafford as a passer? Stafford's had a worse INT rate than Fields' best 3 times in 15 years.
Those backhand flips out of sacks, throwing ducks into the air so you don't go down.. that shit cannot happen. Those are begging to be turnovers. He's fumbled twice today just after he went down. You and I both know it - that isn't acceptable QB play.
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FUCK OFF. You are ruining a rare good Bears game for me.
You should leave the game thread if you don't want people to actually discuss how the game has gone.
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David Montgomery has morphed into Austin Ekeler.
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Defense looks dominant right now.
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Lion receivers dropping balls left and right. Have not seen LaPorta in a while. Bear taking him away
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Have hand it to the defense. They have improved remarkably in the last month or so.
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Don’t do anything stupid. Run the ball. With your running backs. Preferably Foreman.
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🤔 what the fuck was that?!
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Bad throw but why on earth are we airing it out there?
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Can't throw incompletions here. The last thing you want to do.
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That idiotic challenge from Campbell in the third quarter is going to hurt them.
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Here we go. Same situation as last time in Detroit. What have they learned?
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Bad throw but why on earth are we airing it out there?
Exactly. Up 15 at home your defense is playing lights out, why take a shot downfield?
Having said that, terrible throw.
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Sweat!
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Awesome determination from Sweat.
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Big sack by the big money man
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Defense looks really real.
The numbers will look better for the offense than I thought they played, but we can win games like that obviously.
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Awesome determination from Sweat.
Hard to argue with the impact he's made since he got here. He has lived in the backfield.
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Paper Lions....
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Even that Justin Jones sack was created nearly completely by Sweat. He looks like a stud.
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If the Bears blow this then Eberflus and his staff should be left to freeze in Lake Michigan.
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Smart play to go down there
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Smart play to go down there
The smarter play would have been to not pick that off.
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The smarter play would have been to not pick that off.
True. But they need turnover numbers!
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Easy to say "don't pick it off" when your next contract can't be affected by your INT numbers.
It maybe would've been smarter not to, but I'm okay with him picking that off in a two score game. Get your money.
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The vaunted Lion OL has not looked good today except for the 2d quarter
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned today it’s that the Bears MUST move on from Fields. It’s beyond OBVIOUS. I’ve seen enough.
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Paper Lions....
Lol
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned today it’s that the Bears MUST move on from Fields. It’s beyond OBVIOUS. I’ve seen enough.
Yes, today was a good example as to why I think the Bears need to move on from Fields. Electrifying with his legs, extremely middling as a passer. Not a good long term combination for an NFL QB IMO.
I don't think he was particularly good in the passing game.
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That should do it
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Easy to say "don't pick it off" when your next contract can't be affected by your INT numbers.
It maybe would've been smarter not to, but I'm okay with him picking that off in a two score game. Get your money.
Yeah that's true. Plus it's understandable in the heat of the moment that defenders aren't thinking of letting an INT drop for better field position.
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Even that Justin Jones sack was created nearly completely by Sweat. He looks like a stud.
Can’t be. PAMan labeled him a BUST first half of his first Bears game.
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned today it’s that the Bears MUST move on from Fields. It’s beyond OBVIOUS. I’ve seen enough.
If we learned anything it is that Goff is who he is. Time for the Lion to move on.
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Yes, today was a good example as to why I think the Bears need to move on from Fields. Electrifying with his legs, extremely middling as a passer. Not a good long term combination for an NFL QB IMO.
I don't think he was particularly good in the passing game.
Lol “he wasn’t perfect”
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Can’t be. PAMan labeled him a BUST first half of his first Bears game.
Didn't need to waste a 2d on him.
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Lol “he wasn’t perfect”
He was middling.
They just said the NFL average passer rating is 89.
Got a guess what Fields' passer rating was today?
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Here we go. Same situation as last time in Detroit. What have they learned?
They in fact did learn a thing or two from last time. Nice win!
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Say what you want about Flus, this team did not give up on him, and is clearly turning a corner.
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Lions with a possible 1 seed up for grabs for the first time in a long time, choke to the bears?
Color me shocked
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Lions need to move off from Goff, he was worse than Fields, who wasn’t perfect.
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Lions need to move off from Goff, he was worse than Fields, who wasn’t perfect.
Good analysis.
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Lions need to move off from Goff, he was worse than Fields, who wasn’t perfect.
You're really whooping that "wasn't perfect" strawman's ass.
I'm sure you'll avoid answering, so I'll just tell you: Fields passer rating today was 88, one lower than the league average. That's obviously largely because of one of the more inexplicable meltdowns ever from Detroit's defense on that 4th down, but those count.
He was a middling passer. The problem isn't that he "wasn't perfect" as a passer. It's that he was slightly below average as a passer.
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At the Brown next week will be interesting.
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He was middling.
They just said the NFL average passer rating is 89.
Got a guess what Fields' passer rating was today?
I don’t give a fuck. He made the plays he needed to win and didn’t turn the ball over. You act like NFL quarterbacking is easy. You’ve gotten to the point where you make PAMan look fairly reasonable.
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I don’t give a fuck. He made the plays he needed to win and didn’t turn the ball over. You act like NFL quarterbacking is easy. You’ve gotten to the point where you make PAMan look fairly reasonable.
It was 88.
Obviously, not surprised you didn't want to answer.
He's a middling passer. We can pretend he isn't if you want, but he still is.
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Say what you want about Flus, this team did not give up on him, and is clearly turning a corner.
He's certainly made a case the last two games to keep his job. Playoffs are still a long shot but even if they can keep stacking wins in the final month here it would show me that the arrow is pointed upwards.
Just think if they didn't blow the Broncos and first Detroit game. But as Bill Parcells used to say, "you are what your record says you are."
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It was 88.
Obviously, not surprised you didn't want to answer.
He's a middling passer. We can pretend he isn't if you want, but he still is.
IDGAF
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I don’t give a fuck. He made the plays he needed to win and didn’t turn the ball over. You act like NFL quarterbacking is easy. You’ve gotten to the point where you make PAMan look fairly reasonable.
More fodder for my sig
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He's certainly made a case the last two games to keep his job. Playoffs are still a long shot but even if they can keep stacking wins in the final month here it would show me that the arrow is pointed upwards.
Just think if they didn't blow the Broncos and first Detroit game. But as Bill Parcells used to say, "you are what your record says you are."
Agreed.
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IDGAF
Yes, I'm aware obviously by now that how he does as a passer isn't actually relevant to you.
I just think that's a weird take regarding an NFL quarterback.
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Hopefully Jobu and Mrs. Jobu go to all the remaining games
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More fodder for my sig
I endorse it.
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Hopefully Jobu and Mrs. Jobu go to all the remaining games
Right?!
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He's certainly made a case the last two games to keep his job. Playoffs are still a long shot but even if they can keep stacking wins in the final month here it would show me that the arrow is pointed upwards.
Just think if they didn't blow the Broncos and first Detroit game. But as Bill Parcells used to say, "you are what your record says you are."
They are at the Browns and the Packers. Arizona and Atlanta at home. The road games should be interesting.
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It was 88.
Obviously, not surprised you didn't want to answer.
He's a middling passer. We can pretend he isn't if you want, but he still is.
Only the most deranged Fields detractors are ripping him today. I don’t even think ThePAMan has said anything negative today.
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We know Fields can run the ball. He’s a QB and needs to be able to pass. I don’t understand how that’s not relevant or significant to you. The running isn’t a sustainable thing to win games. It just isn’t.
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Browns on the road will be a tough matchup. Will need a good offensive game plan which means we’re probably fucked.
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Browns on the road will be a tough matchup. Will need a good offensive game plan which means we’re probably fucked.
And a QB who can pass…
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Browns on the road will be a tough matchup. Will need a good offensive game plan which means we’re probably fucked.
Already setting up the deflection?
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Only the most deranged Fields detractors are ripping him today. I don’t even think ThePAMan has said anything negative today.
I'm not ripping him. I'm saying he was middling as a passer. He was electric as a runner, as I've stated over and over.
That is just accurately describing the game he had, not ripping him. You are dug in so far that to you, any accurate accounting of his play is "ripping him" unless I'm willing to ignore all the negatives. Hell, earlier in the day you were taking me complimenting the offensive line as an implicit dig on Fields. You're in full defensive cultist mode.
I am glad we won. He played well enough to win overall, obviously. A dominant defense helps. What I am looking for (as I've stated a bunch of times) in the last five weeks is to see this obvious improvement as a passer, which he will need to show if he's ever going to be worth a huge second contract. Today wasn't it. Maybe next week.
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Yes, he is.
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Need to see him as passer the last 4-5 is very important part of that discussion and we didn’t see it in this Lions game.
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Need to see him as passer the last 4-5 is very important part of that discussion and we didn’t see it in this Lions game.
For every play he made with his legs he missed open guys
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For every play he made with his legs he missed open guys
Exactly. And nobody is questioning his running or athletic ability. It’s that he can’t pass consistently and he just improvises too much because of not being able to pass. It’s not sustainable and you can’t have a QB who won’t/can’t throw the ball. It’s indicative of his career so far.
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Great job by Getsy except for that dumbass 4th down call
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Fields TD pass was nice even if Detroit played the worse defense you could possibly play in that situation short of having zero defenders on the field. He didn't turn the ball over. Kept chains moving with his legs.
Not an elite performance but more than good enough to get the win.
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I have a good feeling about this one. I think the Bears defense has a good day, and the Bears come out with the win.
Was going to make a 27-13 or 27-16 prediction but chickened out because if it flamed out I’d have heard about it for the next 10 years.
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I'm sure you'll never again hear about coming here after the game went final and claiming you were GOING TO predict nearly the exact final score, but decided not to.
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I'm sure you'll never again hear about coming here after the game went final and claiming you were GOING TO predict nearly the exact final score, but decided not to.
I think you may be AOTC on that take
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😂
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Was going to make a 27-13 or 27-16 prediction but chickened out because if it flamed out I’d have heard about it for the next 10 years.
Oh fuck man, you can’t make this shit up…
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I was going to predict the Bears to win the 85 Super Bowl 46-10 but chickened out because if it flamed out I would have heard about it for the next 40 years.
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I was going to predict the Bears to win the 85 Super Bowl 46-10 but chickened out because if it flamed out I would have heard about it for the next 40 years.
I was going to predict we would walk on the moon but chickened out because if it flamed out I would have heard about it for the next 40 years.
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I was going to predict we would walk on the moon but chickened out because if it flamed out I would have heard about it for the next 40 years.
I was going to predict the winning lotto numbers, but I was afraid I’d get made fun of on HQ2 and I don’t want that…
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I have a good feeling about this one. I think the Bears defense has a good day, and the Bears come out with the win.
“I have a good feeling about this one” in the first post doesn’t lend any credibility to my claim.
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“I have a good feeling about this one” in the first post doesn’t lend any credibility to my claim.
If you didn't get a bunch of shit about predicting a Bears win, why were you so scared to post your score prediction?
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“I have a good feeling about this one, the Bears defense plays well and they get the win” is such a busted prediction. You guys are the worst.
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If you didn't get a bunch of shit about predicting a Bears win, why were you so scared to post your score prediction?
Less margin for error.
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27-13 sounds like a dominant win. 17-16 could have still given me the “W” in the prediction column.
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“I have a good feeling about this one, the Bears defense plays well and they get the win” is such a busted prediction. You guys are the worst.
Literally zero people have said this.
In fact, you made this prediction before the game and you didn't get any shit at all for it.
What you're going to get shit for is coming here after and saying "I was going to predict the exact score, but didn't because I thought you'd make fun of me". I would think the reasons for that are obvious, no?
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Less margin for error.
You got zero shit for predicting a Bears win today, just saying. You could've definitely predicted the score and gotten the same amount of shit for it, zero.
You're always going to get shit for saying "I actually was GOING TO predict the exact final score, but decided not to." Anyone saying that sort of thing is going to get shit for it for obvious reasons.
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You got zero shit for predicting a Bears win today, just saying. You could've definitely predicted the score and gotten the same amount of shit for it, zero.
You're always going to get shit for saying "I actually was GOING TO predict the exact final score, but decided not to." Anyone saying that sort of thing is going to get shit for it for obvious reasons.
I’d have likely “gotten shit,” had I predicted a convincing Bears win and they (and Fields) fell on their face. I was trying not to be overly cocky. And protect my ass. Still didn’t work.
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I’d have likely “gotten shit,” had I predicted a convincing Bears win and they (and Fields) fell on their face. I was trying not to be overly cocky. And protect my ass. Still didn’t work.
TBF, nobody would've said shit if you hadn't come here to say you ALMOST predicted the score exactly, but decided not to. That was the mistake here.
You'd obviously hammer the shit out of me if I did that.
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Jaquan Brisker had 17 tackles. Most by a Bear DB since at least 1960. What a game.
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Actually had fun at the game. There were an absolute shit ton of Lions fans. Doesn't surprise me much as Detroit is relatively close and they have a good record. But the section I was in had to be 50% Lions fans. I enjoyed watching them get drunk, do the "Let's go Lions!" chant every 5 minutes, then slowly get quiet as the game got out of reach. They were a decent bunch, nobody pissed me off or got crazy. I actually felt a bit sorry for them at the end knowing they lost and had to drive back to...Detroit.
We went to a concession stand, and was greeted by a young lady who was very nice. She took our order, told us the total (34 something) and asked if we were paying cash or card. There's a big sign on the cash register that said cashless station, we only take cards, or something like that. My wife said we have cash, and looked at me. The gal said, well, the cash price is $25 dollars, and you can bring back your souvenir cup for free refills. Just put the cash here (we were on the end, and she wanted me to put the money next to the wall, out of camera view I presume). I laid the money there, she proceeded to put the cash in her coat pocket and said enjoy the game. I was thinking, this broad is probably getting 500 a game for this scam. At least. Stealing money from the hands of the McCaskeys. Didn't feel the least bit bad about it. Man, I love Chicago!
We paid 50 bucks to park at McCormick place, which is a fucking crime, but the tickets were free so I was like whatever. Someone else told me about parking in some neighborhood close by for free, but you had to watch the signs and make sure you weren't in permit parking. I was like yeah, I would rather not get my card towed, thanks. It was actually easier than I thought to get parked and get the fuck out of there.
Glad I went. It was pretty fucking cold, but I've sat through and played in much worse.
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No swinger story to share?
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No swinger story to share?
Nope. Sorry
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Is Mn dead?
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Actually had fun at the game. There were an absolute shit ton of Lions fans. Doesn't surprise me much as Detroit is relatively close and they have a good record. But the section I was in had to be 50% Lions fans. I enjoyed watching them get drunk, do the "Let's go Lions!" chant every 5 minutes, then slowly get quiet as the game got out of reach. They were a decent bunch, nobody pissed me off or got crazy. I actually felt a bit sorry for them at the end knowing they lost and had to drive back to...Detroit.
We went to a concession stand, and was greeted by a young lady who was very nice. She took our order, told us the total (34 something) and asked if we were paying cash or card. There's a big sign on the cash register that said cashless station, we only take cards, or something like that. My wife said we have cash, and looked at me. The gal said, well, the cash price is $25 dollars, and you can bring back your souvenir cup for free refills. Just put the cash here (we were on the end, and she wanted me to put the money next to the wall, out of camera view I presume). I laid the money there, she proceeded to put the cash in her coat pocket and said enjoy the game. I was thinking, this broad is probably getting 500 a game for this scam. At least. Stealing money from the hands of the McCaskeys. Didn't feel the least bit bad about it. Man, I love Chicago!
We paid 50 bucks to park at McCormick place, which is a fucking crime, but the tickets were free so I was like whatever. Someone else told me about parking in some neighborhood close by for free, but you had to watch the signs and make sure you weren't in permit parking. I was like yeah, I would rather not get my card towed, thanks. It was actually easier than I thought to get parked and get the fuck out of there.
Glad I went. It was pretty fucking cold, but I've sat through and played in much worse.
haha that beer vendor story is awesome, classic chicago