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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Judge Judy on November 01, 2023, 09:37:11 PM
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Man, Patrick Williams for the Bulls fucking sucks!
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Man, Patrick Williams for the Bulls fucking sucks!
Heard he wants 20 mil a year. Lol
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Or was it a 200 million dollar extension?
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I can’t wrap my head around the fact that enough people give a fuck about the NBA that mediocre players make what they do and franchises still turn profits. Just an awful product. Cut the regular season in half, stop rewarding teams for losing, quit letting half the teams into the playoffs, and then you might have something.
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I can’t wrap my head around the fact that enough people give a fuck about the NBA that mediocre players make what they do and franchises still turn profits. Just an awful product. Cut the regular season in half, stop rewarding teams for losing, quit letting half the teams into the playoffs, and then you might have something.
I know I started this thread and occasionally watching some games, but I agree with this post.
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I can’t wrap my head around the fact that enough people give a fuck about the NBA that mediocre players make what they do and franchises still turn profits. Just an awful product. Cut the regular season in half, stop rewarding teams for losing, quit letting half the teams into the playoffs, and then you might have something.
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NBA BLOWS
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Man, Patrick Williams for the Bulls fucking sucks!
Blame the regime aka GarPax 2.0 that wasted a top 5 pick on him.
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Blame the regime aka GarPax 2.0 that wasted a top 5 pick on him.
Just needs more time to develop. Blame the coaching staff!
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Nuggets are in a class of their own and not just because they are slapping around the sorry ass Bulls.
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Jalen Pickett.
PTSD intensifies
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Ayo and Talen Horton-Tucker played against each other in the NBA. Really cool to see. They both made it there and doing well.
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Nuggets are in a class of their own and not just because they are slapping around the sorry ass Bulls.
Not quite on the Nugg's, didn't they lose to the Wolf Cubs?
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Not quite on the Nugg's, didn't they lose to the Wolf Cubs?
Guessing you haven't watched them. With Murray sidelined last night, they blew out NO 75-45 in 2nd half. The youngsters stepped up.
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Guessing you haven't watched them. With Murray sidelined last night, they blew out NO 75-45 in 2nd half. The youngsters stepped up.
Yeah Nuggets are by far the best team in the NBA right now…
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Not quite on the Nugg's, didn't they lose to the Wolf Cubs?
Wolves will be pretty good though. No shame in losing to them on the road. And they probably had the revenge boost as extra motivation.
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Wolves will be pretty good though. No shame in losing to them on the road. And they probably had the revenge boost as extra motivation.
True, NBA still blows though.
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True, NBA still blows though.
So does your mom
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So does your mom
Stealing Illinkvn's bit, I see....
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Stealing Illinkvn's bit, I see....
I prefer to call it friendly plagiarism.
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Texting someone about a job opening is right up there, though.
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Texting someone about a job opening is right up there, though.
Classic.
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Texting someone about a job opening is right up there, though.
Oh man
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So does your mom
Well there are 4 kids, so.....
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Well there are 4 kids, so.....
4 different dads?
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4 different dads?
Mailman, Milkman, Plumber and Your Dad....hello brother, well played.
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Mailman, Milkman, Plumber and Your Dad....hello brother, well played.
Damn, so we're half brothers? Nice.
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Damn, so we're half brothers? Nice.
Yep from your Mother's side...:>)
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Yep from your Mother's side...:>)
That’s cool. Sorry mom hates you.
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That’s cool. Sorry mom hates you.
You were always her favorite.
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Get Patrick Williams the fuck out of Chicago already.
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Get Patrick Williams the fuck out of Chicago already.
And Lavine.
And DeRozan.
Blow this shitty roster up. I’m ok with keeping Vuc.
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So Ayo is 10th guy in a 10 man rotation.
But making a nice paycheck and has a great work ethic and attitude. Will help him stick around the league hopefully.
It is hard to make a roster and just even be a rotation guy.
So much talent in the NBA.
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/bulls-ayo-dosunmu-takes-advantage-of-alex-carusos-absence-with-huge-game/518463/ (https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/bulls-ayo-dosunmu-takes-advantage-of-alex-carusos-absence-with-huge-game/518463/)
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NBA BLOWS
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Podz dropped 23 last game for the Warriors. Kerr says he’ll stick in the rotation. Well deserved.
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Podz dropped 23 last game for the Warriors. Kerr says he’ll stick in the rotation. Well deserved.
I know a lot of people say Underwood missed on Podz’s talent and such and missed it in practice. Also him not getting to play. I look at it differently in retrospect now though. Who really knows, maybe Podz took the leaving and became more confident in himself because of those things, and drove him. He might’ve been passive and shy in practices as a freshman at Illinois and didn’t exude the confidence that he does now and at Santa Clara because he had that freedom, and felt like the alpha there. Just some food for thought…
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Michael Jordan might’ve never been Michael Jordan if he wasn’t cut from the HS freshman basketball team… 🤷🏻♂️
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I know a lot of people say Underwood missed on Podz’s talent and such and missed it in practice. Also him not getting to play. I look at it differently in retrospect now though. Who really knows, maybe Podz took the leaving and became more confident in himself because of those things, and drove him. He might’ve been passive and shy in practices as a freshman at Illinois and didn’t exude the confidence that he does now and at Santa Clara because he had that freedom, and felt like the alpha there. Just some food for thought…
Or Underachiever fucked up. Like he usually does in the Only Tournament That Matters.
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I know a lot of people say Underwood missed on Podz’s talent and such and missed it in practice. Also him not getting to play. I look at it differently in retrospect now though. Who really knows, maybe Podz took the leaving and became more confident in himself because of those things, and drove him. He might’ve been passive and shy in practices as a freshman at Illinois and didn’t exude the confidence that he does now and at Santa Clara because he had that freedom, and felt like the alpha there. Just some food for thought…
I thought Podz looked overmatched when he was on the floor. Goode played better when he got the floor time. Good for Podz for making the most of things.
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Michael Jordan might’ve never been Michael Jordan if he wasn’t cut from the HS freshman basketball team… 🤷🏻♂️
he didn't make varsity as a freshman
he made the JV team though
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Lol
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Jordan was cut from varsity as a sophomore.
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As a sophomore Jordan was 5’10, played mediocre defense and wasn’t standout shooter. He was cut for a 6’7 kid on a team that lacked size.
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As a sophomore Jordan was 5’10, played mediocre defense and wasn’t standout shooter. He was cut for a 6’7 kid on a team that lacked size.
Nah. It was a miss. As a high school coach, you don't miss on the best player ever. There's no excuse for it. It was a miss.
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And that's fine. It happens. I know of a pitcher that was cut from a travel team when he was in 8th grade. This guy now throws 95, and is playing pro ball. It happens. And I give those coaches shit to this day for missing on him. They acknowledge the miss.
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Nah. It was a miss. As a high school coach, you don't miss on the best player ever. There's no excuse for it. It was a miss.
;D
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Nah. It was a miss. As a high school coach, you don't miss on the best player ever. There's no excuse for it. It was a miss.
I’m not making a case either way. I’m just reporting what happened and the justification at the time for him not making varsity.
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Heat already beating the Bulls 22-3 😆🤣
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I sincerely hope you have better things to do than watch the Bulls
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I sincerely hope you have better things to do than watch the Bulls
He watches the Bulls so we don’t have to
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I sincerely hope you have better things to do than watch the Bulls
You honest to god think I'm watching those fucking bums? I just saw the box score and had to laugh.
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You honest to god think I'm watching those fucking bums? I just saw the box score and had to laugh.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/xVpUhR49z4F14vWJZ5/giphy.gif)
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He watches the Bulls so we don’t have to
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Heat already beating the Bulls 22-3 😆🤣
They need to trade Lavine, DeRozan, and Williams asap.
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And the Bulls won 102-97…
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Heat already beating the Bulls 22-3 😆🤣
Just checking again because no way in fuck are the Bulls coming ba-
Wait you mean the fucking bums actually won?? How bad do you have to suck at basketball to lose a game after starting off 22-1 against the pitiful Chicago Bulls?
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Josh Giddy for OKC about ready to go to prison and NBA career over. Threw it all away for a 15-year old. What a fucking dumbass pedophile…
https://x.com/wstgoat7/status/1727608780777456070?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Josh Giddy for OKC about ready to go to prison and NBA career over. Threw it all away for a 15-year old. What a fucking dumbass pedophile…
https://x.com/wstgoat7/status/1727608780777456070?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/2023/11/23/655f869ce2704ecc138b45d3.html (https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/2023/11/23/655f869ce2704ecc138b45d3.html)
Well, they certainly were not trying to hide it. If she is 15 and he knew he is fucked.
She may have lied also.
Who knows.
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https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/2023/11/23/655f869ce2704ecc138b45d3.html (https://www.marca.com/en/basketball/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/2023/11/23/655f869ce2704ecc138b45d3.html)
Well, they certainly were not trying to hide it. If she is 15 and he knew he is fucked.
She may have lied also.
Who knows.
Doesn’t look like she’s lying in those videos. He’s clearly with her and willing, and I’m sure they are close and fucked from those videos. Again, he’s a dumbass not to check and verify her age. She clearly looks young. To risk your entire career on a fucking woman is insane…
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I agree. She has other posts where she claims to be 21 apparently.
Who the hell knows. How an NBA guy ended up with her is bizarre.
He could walk into any bar in any city and get laid by groupies.
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In other news both TSJ and Hawkins dropping off the board right now in this mock draft.
https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2024-2nd-round/ (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2024-2nd-round/)
I actually think TSJ has a decent chance. His ball handling, passing, D, and assertiveness on O is better this year.
Hawkins has always been a longshot, but maybe a light comes on.
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Josh Giddy for OKC about ready to go to prison and NBA career over. Threw it all away for a 15-year old. What a fucking dumbass pedophile…
https://x.com/wstgoat7/status/1727608780777456070?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Nobody knows this girls actual age or if they are more than friends. Supposedly a junior in high school? 15? Age of consent in OK is 16.
Rush to judgment.
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Might be time to retire, Pop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZsByKgmvk
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Might be time to retire, Pop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZsByKgmvk
What a woke pussy. Him and Kerr are insufferable. They literally think people give a fuck about the shit they say.
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Nobody knows this girls actual age or if they are more than friends. Supposedly a junior in high school? 15? Age of consent in OK is 16.
Rush to judgment.
Agree. And the pedophilia label really doesn’t apply to obviously sexually mature females such as this.
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What a woke pussy. Him and Kerr are insufferable. They literally think people give a fuck about the shit they say.
Actually a lot of people do respect what they have to say.
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Actually a lot of people do respect what they have to say.
Unfortunately
LOL
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Unfortunately
LOL
I can't imagine a moral rational person who actually gives a shit having an issue with their commentary on social issues.
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Popovich issued that plea with 3:06 remaining in the first half and his team trailing the Clippers, 48-39.
The crowd then erupted in even louder boos as Leonard hit his second free throw, extending the lead to 10. The home team’s fans likely also played a role in the Spurs rallying from a 17-point deficit to pull within six at intermission.
Popovich declined postgame to delve into details.
“I think anybody that knows anything about sports knows you don’t poke the bear,” he said.
Pressed further, the coach grew testy.
“That’s all I need to say. I just told you why I did it. I gave you the answer,” Popovich said. “There’s no other questions that need to be asked.”
🤔
https://www.nba.com/news/gregg-popovich-chastises-spurs-fans-booing-kawhi-leonard
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Nobody knows this girls actual age or if they are more than friends. Supposedly a junior in high school? 15? Age of consent in OK is 16.
Rush to judgment.
https://twitter.com/markkberger/status/1727611816170168510/photo/1
https://www.celebsweek.com/livv-cook/
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https://www.celebsweek.com/livv-cook/
Now that’s funny
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The old "badger game" methinks.
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She seems like a nice person.
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She seems like a nice person.
😂
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She's from Newport Beach, not a surprise.
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He is still playing.
Police investigating.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/29/sport/josh-giddey-nba-police-investigation-spt-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/29/sport/josh-giddey-nba-police-investigation-spt-intl/index.html)
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Does Billy D go back to college?
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Does Billy D go back to college?
I can think of a place a little bit down the road that would be a great place for him.
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I can think of a place a little bit down the road that would be a great place for him.
Depaul?!?!?
Jk
Would I take him at U of I?
I do wonder how he'd adjust to new rules of transfers though
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I’d have zero worries about Billy Donovan at U of I.
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I’d encourage Uberwood to take a lateral move to the plains states and throw everything we can muster at BD.
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I’d encourage Uberwood to take a lateral move to the plains states and throw everything we can muster at BD.
Crean the Creaner.....interesting move.
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Good article on the Podz situation here from Underwood…
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/illinois-coach-explains-warriors-brandin-18566192.php
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Nice article. Kid is a baller.
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Surprised JJ has a SF Chronicle subscription
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Surprised JJ has a SF Chronicle subscription
Had a friend send the article to me.
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Had a friend send the article to me.
(https://media.tenor.com/Qx046D8qJe8AAAAM/10-ok.gif)
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She lives in Canada. You wouldn’t know her.
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Had a friend send the article to me.
Murph?
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She lives in Canada. You wouldn’t know her.
And he's laid, lots of times.
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I think Custard said it a while back, but this is the best follow on Twitter (X). If you’re not, you should. Always posting great stuff…
https://x.com/super70ssports/status/1738209095511835069?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Good article on the Podz situation here from Underwood…
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/illinois-coach-explains-warriors-brandin-18566192.php
He's a worthy sjma alum
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Podz being interviewed at halftime on national NBA game.
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Tell ya what wembanyama is pretty fun to watch, what a talent
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Tell ya what wembanyama is pretty fun to watch, what a talent
It is crazy.
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Speaking of crazy. This guy....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLxUKMJNTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLxUKMJNTg)
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Speaking of crazy. This guy....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLxUKMJNTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLxUKMJNTg)
Omg! What a shot
Check this out from wemby tonight 🤯
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k3p_a_cjXPc
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:o
He just turned 20 yesterday. Hope he has a long career.
The NBA has just ridiculous talent.
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Bulls fans booing Jerry Krause during Ring of Honor night while his wife was in attendance. Fucking disgraceful. I'm glad Stacey King called their asses out.
Hate the man all you want for breaking up the dynasty if you wish but he was also the architect of that very same dynasty. Its largely because of him that basketball was fun for Bulls fans spanning from the late 80s to the late 90s.
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Chicago sports fans trying to give Philly a run for their money
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Bulls fans booing Jerry Krause during Ring of Honor night while his wife was in attendance. Fucking disgraceful. I'm glad Stacey King called their asses out.
Hate the man all you want for breaking up the dynasty if you wish but he was also the architect of that very same dynasty. Its largely because of him that basketball was fun for Bulls fans spanning from the late 80s to the late 90s.
Yeah, disgraceful as fuck. She was crying and the fans were totally classless! Embarrassing! 😡
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As far as I’m concerned these Bulls fans and a whole lot of Bear fans deserve their irrelevance. Trash fans of trash franchises.
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Bulls fans booing Jerry Krause during Ring of Honor night while his wife was in attendance. Fucking disgraceful. I'm glad Stacey King called their asses out.
Hate the man all you want for breaking up the dynasty if you wish but he was also the architect of that very same dynasty. Its largely because of him that basketball was fun for Bulls fans spanning from the late 80s to the late 90s.
😳 wow
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NBA BLOWS
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That's disgusting.
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Shocked people are shocked by such a turn of events at a Bull game.
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I went to a lot of Bulls games at the Stadium in Jordan's run.
Loudest place I have ever been.
Fans were awesome. They understood the game. Sat next to McMahon one game. It wasn't built with corporate suites in mind.
When they moved it was not the same.
Saw playoffs there the last title year and the crowds were a lot of rich people. Kind of like Cubs became.
That is bullshit that they booed Krause. Jackson wanted out and he and Krause were fucked. Pippen was bitching constantly. They were old.
It was time.
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Shocked people are shocked by such a turn of events at a Bull game.
I'm not... still though wow! Classless!
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The booing was bullshit but let's be honest Krause has been ripped apart and scapegoated for decades in the media including in the Last Dance. Fans have learned to hate him.
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The booing was bullshit but let's be honest Krause has been ripped apart and scapegoated for decades in the media including in the Last Dance. Fans have learned to hate him.
Didn't the Hawks fans who were in attendance (it was one of the very lean years) boo the Moment of Silence for Dollar Bill Wirtz right after he died?
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People in general are incapable of independent thought. They generally feel / think whatever the pop media tell them.
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People in general are incapable of independent thought. They generally feel / think whatever the pop media tell them.
Nice to see us on the same page!
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donk dropped 73 tonight !!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRblNTXolvo
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Yeah, Embiid got 70 the other day.
These guys can fill it up.
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Bulls need to fire everyone. Like seriously.
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Bulls need to fire everyone. Like seriously.
Was embarrassing after Thursday night. Blow it all up.
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Hopefully they don't want to hire Underwood
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Bulls need to fire everyone. Like seriously.
They needed to do that a while ago
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They needed to do that a while ago
Yep. Reinsdorf gonna Reinsdorf.
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Bulls suck. But God bless the NBA Playoffs. Love this time.
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Looking to take up where we left off with the Lakers. Just hope the zebras call it evenly.
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Looking to take up where we left off with the Lakers. Just hope the zebras call it evenly.
Good start for the Nuggets
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Jamal Murray is fucking cold blooded man. Nothing AD could do about that shot except tip your cap.
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Jamal Murray is fucking cold blooded man. Nothing AD could do about that shot except tip your cap.
Yeah but, only after a 3 for 14 in first 3 quarters. Nugs up 2-0 and haven't shot well yet. AD after a monster first half disappears in the 2nd. First time in 21 years that LeBron has lost to the same team 10x in a row.
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Anthony Davis is the most overrated player in the NBA 😂
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Anthony Davis is the most overrated player in the NBA 😂
You got the right team, wrong player though....LOL
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LeBron has had an historic career and generally been a pretty decent guy. He's stayed out of trouble and is a good family man. Why does he want to sully his reputation by dishing 4 letter words in the game 2 post-game interview complaining about a call being reversed in the 3rd quarter? C'mon man! Lakers have taken 507 more FTs than their opponents this year. The next biggest disparity is 250. STFU and show some class as you fade away! Game 3 tonight.
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LeBron has had an historic career and generally been a pretty decent guy. He's stayed out of trouble and is a good family man. Why does he want to sully his reputation by dishing 4 letter words in the game 2 post-game interview complaining about a call being reversed in the 3rd quarter? C'mon man! Lakers have taken 507 more FTs than their opponents this year. The next biggest disparity is 250. STFU and show some class as you fade away! Game 3 tonight.
You have a vested interest in Denver winning!
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Le bitch going to be gone from the playoffs very soon, the Lakers are horrid
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Damn, this comeback by the Mavs is amazing!! Holy shit!!
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Member when John Groce stopped recruiting Jalen Brunson?
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Member when John Groce stopped recruiting Jalen Brunson?
I dont
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I thought he tried to get both and wound up with neither.
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I thought he tried to get both and wound up with neither.
We prioritized Jawun Evans over Brunson and that didn't sit right with Papa Brunson.
And yeah, we ended up with neither when all was said and done. The John Groce recruiting special.
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Groce didnt want to hire his dad either
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Murray does it again. GTFO Lebron.
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Murray does it again. GTFO Lebron.
+1
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Lakers had double digit leads in 4 of the 5 games. They led at halftime in all 5 games. And still lost 4-1.
The most competitive 5 game series ever.
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Maybe ESPN can stop talking about the Lakers till next season. Probably not.....
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This is some defensive clinic being put on by the Wolves against the defending champs in their building, and all without Gobert.
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This is some defensive clinic being put on by the Wolves against the defending champs in their building, and all without Gobert.
Yeah the Wolves playing like this, nobody is beating them. They’re dominating Denver. It almost looks like the Wolves have 6 players in defense.
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A definitive ass whipping by the TW's has the Nugs reeling. This isn't soft-serve like the Lakers.
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Yeah the Wolves playing like this, nobody is beating them. They’re dominating Denver. It almost looks like the Wolves have 6 players in defense.
I think the announcers said "7" a couple of times. 🤣🤣
And they were short Naz Reid.
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I think the announcers said "7" a couple of times. 🤣🤣
And they were short Naz Reid.
Rudy Gobert (DPOY a couple times). Naz played.
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Rudy Gobert (DPOY a couple times). Naz played.
TY. My mistake.
Gobert was home for the birth of his child.
And I was sleeping soundly before the 2nd half started. Lol
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I think the announcers said "7" a couple of times. 🤣🤣
And they were short Naz Reid.
Naz is a lot of things but not short.
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Naz is a lot of things but not short.
The "short" was intentional, but getting the player wrong wasn't. ;D
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Nuggets ain't dead yet. 2-2 going back to Denver. Twolves might have poked the bear just a little too hard.
Knicks got their asses clapped. Tough day for the Villanova 3 shooting a combined 10/36.
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Nuggets ain't dead yet. 2-2 going back to Denver. Twolves might have poked the bear just a little too hard.
Knicks got their asses clapped. Tough day for the Villanova 3 shooting a combined 10/36.
Some would say the series between the Nuggets and Wolves is even at 2.
Some would say the Wolves have put themselves in a hole.
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Some might say both teams looked at a mirror.
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Some might say both teams looked at a mirror.
And the team that won last night thought 'yeah, but we look better'.
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Too bad the Mavs didn't value free shots tonight like the PAMan does
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Too bad the Mavs didn't value free shots tonight like the PAMan does
Tempo says free shots don't matter until after Memorial Day.
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Nugs/Twolves tip off at 830 Mountain and 930 Central. What a great way to get eyeballs on the match-up most worth watching. Maybe this should be n the Clown thread. WTF?
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Nugs/Twolves tip off at 830 Mountain and 930 Central. What a great way to get eyeballs on the match-up most worth watching. Maybe this should be n the Clown thread. WTF?
But they won't tip off at 9:30 Central. The east coast game starts at 8 their time.
I'll probably stay awake long enough to see who wins the tip and a couple of possessions.
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Nugs/Twolves tip off at 830 Mountain and 930 Central. What a great way to get eyeballs on the match-up most worth watching. Maybe this should be n the Clown thread. WTF?
Yeah these games are way too late at night. It’s kind of ridiculous.
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Yeah these games are way too late at night. It’s kind of ridiculous.
oh no not a 730 game!
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oh no not a 730 game!
Yeah 9:30 here. Lucky you.
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Jokic is just such an amazing basketball player. He’s fucking incredible.
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Jokic is just such an amazing basketball player. He’s fucking incredible.
He went to the next level last night. Not sure I've seen him have a better game. Defensive POY? Has no shot.
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His advanced stats are mindbogglingly good, like all time #1 good
He is quite the unique player
here's a video explaining just how crazy good he is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6U_zd-cU44
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His advanced stats are mindbogglingly good, like all time #1 good
He is quite the unique player
here's a video explaining just how crazy good he is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6U_zd-cU44
Yeah he keeps this level of play up for another 5 years, he might go down as the greatest ever. Of course the rings and clutch part he’ll have to surpass Jordan. All around player though, I don’t think I’ve seen one better. He’s very comparable to Larry Bird.
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How is Tempo feeling about a white guy being in the NBA GOAT conversation?
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How is Tempo feeling about a white guy being in the NBA GOAT conversation?
He still hates George Mikan.
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Jokic is just such an amazing basketball player. He’s fucking incredible.
He was out hunting the 4x DPOY like he was some G Leaguer. It was beautiful to watch.
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Twolves just served up a 24-0 run on the defending champs !!!!!!
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A 45 point win. Go figger
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Holding any team, much less the defending champs in the playoffs, to 70 points in today's NBA is quite impressive.
Nuggets only scored 9 points in the 4th. !!!!!!
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Holding any team, much less the defending champs in the playoffs, to 70 points in today's NBA is quite impressive.
Nuggets only scored 9 points in the 4th. !!!!!!
Ugh! No more bitching about the late starts.
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Tough loss for OKC but they're still young. And SGA is that dude. Keep building around him.
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Nuggets choking their way to Cancun.
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Nuggets choking their way to Cancun.
Yep. They were up big in the game and completely pissed it away.
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They started looking like the Lakers in the 4th. I'm glad it was the t-Wolves who took them out. Hope they win it all.
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They started looking like the Lakers in the 4th. I'm glad it was the t-Wolves who took them out. Hope they win it all.
The defense the Nuggets threw at the Wolves in the 1st half was causing shot clock violations and missed shots.
The Wolves returned the favor in the 2nd half and held the Nuggets to 37.
Even with an off game from Ant, the deeper team won.
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Tough weekend for Grange
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Tough weekend for Grange
Despite too many hours with his cup on, he's been good about it tho.
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What the fuck is Indiana doing?!
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Pacers completely blew that game. Had it won numerous times and shot themselves in the foot at the end of regulation and in OT. Inexcusable.
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The way they lost it, it almost makes you think it was rigged. Literally just dribbled the ball out of bounds and incomprehensible turnovers. I’m still in shock how they lost that series n regulation. Wow.
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Carlisle fucked up not calling a TO on the inbounds. Brown also did grab Siakam's jersey to be fair which should have been called.
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Despite too many hours with his cup on, he's been good about it tho.
Us Illini fans are work hardened.
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ANT wanted all the Kyrie smoke. He got the Kyrie smoke.
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ANT wanted all the Kyrie smoke. He got the Kyrie smoke.
Ant's "bring ya ass" was directed at Charles Barkley. Unfortunately for the Wolves, Kyrie brought his.
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Luka called game
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I got the Mavs winning it all
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I got the Mavs winning it all
I hope they do. Fuck the Celtics. Doncic is a badass.
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I hope they do. Fuck the Celtics. Doncic is a badass.
You misspelled assassin.
I don't follow the NBA at all but watched some of the tWolves post-season. He can shoot from the next county with defenders draped all over him and nothing but net.
The Mavs shooting against what was the #1 defense was impressive.
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No one left to root for in the finals. Will have to rely on the Oilers now.
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No one left to root for in the finals. Will have to rely on the Oilers now.
How can you NOT root for Luka Doncic?!
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How can you NOT root for Luka Doncic?!
I can. It's Kyrie
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You still mad he didn’t get microchipped?
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Forgot about that. He's always been a dick head.
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He's the most free mouthed player since Rodman, gotta love it
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Whats the deal with the finals schedule do they always milk it for 2 almost 3 weeks?
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Whats the deal with the finals schedule do they always milk it for 2 almost 3 weeks?
Yes, and it’s ridiculous.
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Yes, and it’s ridiculous.
Boo to that
Not that i really want to watch it anyway just found the schedule interesting when there wasnt a game on like 4 days between each one
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I got the Mavs winning it all
Annnnnnd they're cooked.
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Haven’t watched a minute of it but didn’t expect what looks like a sweep
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I love Luka and he’s a great player, but this is spot on. He needs to man up and quit being a little bitch…
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1801102787742240842?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Down 3-0, now Luka just wants to have fun...LOL
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Boring ass finals
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This rant by Freddie DeBoer is epic. Especially love the part where he calls out the sparks of the world.
Fuck the Modern NBA
no, I didn't actually enjoy watching the Celtics breeze to a title by launching six billion threes a game, call me a charlatan
FREDDIE DEBOER
JUL 1
I think the next time someone asks me why I can’t stand the 2020s NBA, I’ll just say “Al Horford, standing at the three point line, ready to chuck.”
Horford, one of the oldest players in the NBA, recently won a richly deserved championship ring with the Boston Celtics. He played essential minutes for the team this season, valuable especially given that uber-talented but fragile center Kristaps Porzingis missed a lot of key games. (“Uber-talented but fragile” is something of a theme in the league these days.) I’m happy for Horford. I just don’t particularly like watching him play. Horford was once known for his lockdown defense and bruising interior game; though he was never a Zach Randolph-style post technician, his athleticism and strength allowed him to bully teams inside, and he had remarkable passing skills for a man of his size. Here in the twilight of his career, though, the Celtics asked him to do something else: constantly float to the three point line and shoot. This is remarkable, given his early career - for his first eight seasons, he shot fewer than .2 threes a game. But the NBA evolved, and quite quickly, in a way that’s been discussed to death - teams started jacking threes at a heretofore unthinkable rate, shunning the midrange jump shots that once defined the league. And so after never shooting more than a half a three a game, in the 2015-2016 campaign he started shooting three a game, and has not shot less than that since. A career 37.9% three point shooter, Horford misses almost twice as many threes as he takes. But that’s winning math in the NBA.
And I’ll tell you, I just hate to watch it! Look at that form. More to the point, I just hate watching the modern NBA, where teams have made the correct tactical decision to just launch and launch and launch three-pointers and in so doing made the project frequently unwatchable. A three-heavy offense is inherently a decision to trade shooting percentage for overall efficiency; coaches and GMs expect misses, even welcome misses, so long as the team is constantly shooting from behind the line. Again, to be clear, I’m not doubting that this is a good strategy. I am doubting that it’s any fun to watch. Missed shots are a big part of the game, but there’s something uniquely dispiriting about watching missed three after missed three after missed three. And every indication is that teams are simply going to double down more and more on the longball, chucking and chucking and chucking their way to victory. Of course, threes mostly don’t go in - league average three-point shooting was 35.1% this year. And with the average number of threes per game going from less than 14 in the 1999-2000 season to more than 35 this past season, that’s a lot of missing! A lot of missing. Like, a lot. A lot a lot. So, so much missing.
Objectively, this is all very effective. Aesthetically, it’s a mess. And it points to this weird defensiveness I’ve seen about the Celtics and their championship, from pretty much everywhere. This New Yorker piece is a good summation of it all - it’s downright touchy about the idea that there’s anything less than appealing about this year’s champion, a notion that’s been repeated over and over again in this year’s playoffs and since. But I’m afraid I have to fall on my sword and admit it myself: I see nothing to enjoy in this Celtics team, and despite a quantitatively dominant regular season and playoffs, they don’t feel dominant to me at all.
The term “dominant” is an aesthetic one, an emotional one, not an objective one. But that’s OK because I have an aesthetic and emotional relationship to sports. The Celtics might be better than the 2000 Lakers in L-V@RP, but watching Shaq throw giant men around without appearing to really try and then destroying the rim, again and again, is just always going to be more impressive than watching Jayson Tatum chuck another missed three. Sorry. So is watching Michael Jordan attack the hoop ruthlessly, so is watching Hakeem Olajuwon put opposing centers in a blender, so is watching Steph Curry and Klay Thompson shooting threes at ungodly percentages with their impeccable form. That’s what dominance looks like. Jayson Tatum on a three-on-one break pulling up to clang yet another awkward three off the front rim, and doing so because that’s what he’s been explicitly coached to do, doesn’t look like dominance. It looks like an ugly, boring war of attrition. And I don’t care that it’s effective. I don’t care. I’m not a GM. The point of being a fan is not to be a mini GM, despite what Twitter would have you believe. The point of being a fan is to watch and enjoy the product, and I don’t enjoy the product. It’s frenetic, there’s no rhythm, and it gives me exactly the feeling I get when a middle infielder who weighs 180 pounds sopping wet takes a wild hack and flies out with a 3-1 count because he’s been taught to prioritize launch angle. Do you really want to be baseball, NBA? Do you really?
And of course this is all made so much worse by the Sneering Haughty Condescending Better-Than-You NBA Hipster White Guy Dipshit (SHCBTYNBAHWGD) media industrial complex. The NBA media is fucking plagued by these guys who seem to have no interest in the world they hold more holy than letting you know how much smarter they are than you. I wrote a piece titled “How the NBA Became a League for Snobs” eleven whole years ago. In that piece I wrote about this maddening tendency of NBA media to attract the kind of guy who needs everyone to know that he’s that kind of guy, someone whose appreciation of basketball can only exist in contrast with the idiot schlubby know-nothing ordinary NBA fan of his imagination. Somehow, it’s gotten worse. I mentioned the backlash to Lebron James and “The Decision” debacle in that piece. As I said, the idea that James took universal heat for it all and didn’t have any defenders was transparently nonsense; almost every glasses-clad NBA hipster was vigorously defending James. They were doing it because of the perception that James had no defenders. That is, of course, the heart of hipsterdom, the need to counterpose all taste against what’s taken to be the inferior public taste, even when (especially when) the hipster holds a belief that’s actually quite popular.
As time goes on, these tendencies deepen. I complained about Zach Lowe in that now decade-plus old piece. I said that I thought Lowe was gifted at explaining basketball, which made it all the more grating that he expressed himself with such theatrical disdain for everyone who disagreed with him about anything. Every single media appearance Zach Lowe does, there’s some part where he theatrically sighs and looks around like he can’t believe what an idiot his interlocutors are, like there’s not a single soul on planet Earth who ever bothered to think carefully about the NBA before. It’s so tired and boring. I’m sorry you find it so terribly troubling to be paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to analyze a game for a living, brother. If you find it so hard to deal with the existence of people who disagree with you in that domain, you should switch domains. I hear there’s money to be made in crypto. I’m thrilled that horrible poet and self-impressed gasbag JJ Redick has taken a job with the Lakers so that I don’t have to watch him (as often) rolling his eyes in grim condescension at everyone who dares to question him on any subject, ever. The recently-departed Jerry West had a PER 8 points higher than Redick and was, you know, actually transcendently good at basketball, but he had half the “basketball IQ” of Redick, or something. Have fun next January when you’re six games under .500 and the Athletic runs a 5,000-word piece about players rebelling against your coaching style with an “anonymous” Rob Pelinka quote about how you weren’t ready, JJ.
Now the “I’m angry at my dad, and I live now, so basketball now has to be so much better than any time in the past” crowd is coming up with horseshit arguments for why Michael Jordan didn’t deserve his Defensive Player of the Year Award. Hey, Tom Haberstroh: are you familiar with the phrase “isolated demand for rigor”? Because you’ve just put on an absolute clinic in that regard. If you want to make the analysis you think you’re making, you have to do the same exact analysis for every other player of meaningful comparison. Including Lebron James. And if we’re doing that, we have to do it for every aspect of the game. Go look at Lebron James’s assist totals throughout his career and then look at how many “assists” he’s been awarded, at home or on the road. I think you’ll be surprised! Of course the world’s biggest dipshit, attention-begging charlatan Nick Wright, has admitted that he directed Haberstroh in this regard. Guys: first, address whatever beef it is you have with your dads, and second, have the integrity to admit that in about three years you’re going to say that Lebron was always an overrated scrub and that you always knew Victor Wembanyama was the GOAT-to-be. And right after he retires he’ll be a talentless scrub too, because this is about your need to believe that the time period in which you’re alive is the most important time in the history of the universe. I’m sorry your dad never stopped talking about how great Clyde Drexler was. Please, move on.
New shot chart graphic illustrates just how much NBA game has changed
HOW FUN! NOTHING IS MORE FUN THAT A RELENTLESS FOCUS ON LOCKSTEP ATTACHMENT TO RIGID STATISTICAL EFFICIENCY!
It’s just a brutal, brutal sport to enjoy right now. The product gets more and more boring over time. Every team plays identically, and that’s statistically true, so don’t fight me on it. The pundits are obsessed with being smarter than everyone and they won’t allow any challenge to their most sacred nostrum, which is that the league has never had more talent. Perhaps this is true, in some objective sense, but I don’t watch basketball with a protractor, and this supposedly incredibly-talented league sure is full of guys like Donovan Mitchell and Anthony Davis and, yes, Jayson Tatum, who it’s simply impossible for me to be inspired by. Yes, I’m sure Davis has more midichlorians than Shawn Kemp and will rate far higher on the Ringer’s Top 1000 list that Kevin O’Connor will be working on until he’s 80. Cool. If you’d rather watch Davis shoot another half-hearted three and then complain to the ref than watch Shawn Kemp, I don’t know what to say to you other than “eat shit.”
OG Anunoby for TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN MILLION DOLLARS. Golly! Wowsers! Someday, we’ll be able to say “I watched him play.”
The basic modern equation of the sport, sacrificing shooting percentage for shooting volume due to the game’s broken rules and bad incentives, means that you’re constantly rooting for guys who shoot 30% to jack those shots relentlessly. And if your power forward keeps clanging brick after brick and you say “stop taking those shots,” I promise some self-impressed fuckface at Buffalo Wild Wings will launch into an hour-long lecture about how you just don’t understand the modern game. Do you think that the NBA should maybe move the line back a little bit to rebalance the game? Idiot. Do you think someone should tell the NBA the definition of an “arc” and point out that that’s not what they’re painting on their courts? Moron. Do you think that amending the rules to address bad incentives baked into them for the good of the game is part of being a sports league? Dumbass! What’s that sound I hear? Oh, right, that’s Luka Doncic, yelling at a ref while a guy rated 72 overall in NBA2K blows by him like security at a college football game when the fans rush the field.
[touches earpiece] I’m told Nikola Jokic has just called into SportsCenter from Serbia, specifically to remind everyone that he hates basketball and gets no joy from playing it and would rather be doing anything else
Here’s a coach obsessing over the three-pointer breakeven threshold for a C-level high school girl’s basketball team. If I only I was allowed to complain without a certain kind of dude screencapping it for mockery purposes! Look, the league just signed a massive deal so that Amazon - you know, the name you love and trust when it comes to NBA coverage - can serve ads to all four quadrants of your screen at the same time. The salary cap is going up. The salaries are going up. Things are good! Adam Silver has been vindicated. The All-Star game is going to be played on a Slamball court from now on, so that’s nice. Shams and Woj get more ink than All-Star players, and playoff games get absolutely fucking wrecked by the second round of the NFL draft in the ratings. Champion coach Joe Mazzulla says that making shots doesn’t matter, just taking them. (Imagine, caring about making shots! What year is this?) James Harden, somehow, has not been jailed for his crimes against basketball. The league’s three biggest stars are 39, 36, and 35 years old. Ratings are low, national interest is anemic, the next generation of stars are sullen dicks from the former Soviet bloc or guys who appear hell-bent on derailing their careers with gun crimes or play for Minnesota. Kawhi Leonard has been a pioneer in the “just skip the actual meat of having a great career part” space. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander sure is gifted, a real joy. Hope you enjoy watching Isaiah Hartenstein shoot threes! What could be wrong with any of this? Why would anyone miss Patrick Ewing or Allen Iverson? Who am I to blow against the wind?
The Mavericks, the loser in this year’s Finals, shot the second-most threes in the league. The Celtics shot the most. It’s only gonna get worse, and if you don’t like it, JJ Redick will come to your house to shake his head in disgust. Good times.
CLANG!
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Holy shit, is Freddie DeBoer, Rees Woodcock?!
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haha good stuff
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Derozan traded to the Kings. Is this rebuild #10 for the Bulls since Jordan retired for the 2nd time?
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Derozan traded to the Kings. Is this rebuild #10 for the Bulls since Jordan retired for the 2nd time?
The trade makes sense for everyone other than the Bulls. Duarte is a decent player, but the Bulls don't need a 6'5 depth on the bench? Offense in spurts? There is G-League players that would contribute more imo.
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The trade makes sense for everyone other than the Bulls. Duarte is a decent player, but the Bulls don't need a 6'5 depth on the bench? Offense in spurts? There is G-League players that would contribute more imo.
It’s just an expiring contract, that’s all. Bulls just wanna get rid of salary and try to tank in my opinion. I think we’re stuck with Lavine and Vooch unfortunately. Vooch’s contract is pretty reasonable and he puts up good numbers. Lavine’s contract is just terrible, he’s hurt all the time, low basketball IQ, is selfish and doesn’t appear to be a team player. Nobody wants that. Who knows about Ball, he’s just a wildcard at this point. I’d waive him.
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It’s just an expiring contract, that’s all. Bulls just wanna get rid of salary and try to tank in my opinion. I think we’re stuck with Lavine and Vooch unfortunately. Vooch’s contract is pretty reasonable and he puts up good numbers. Lavine’s contract is just terrible, he’s hurt all the time, low basketball IQ, is selfish and doesn’t appear to be a team player. Nobody wants that. Who knows about Ball, he’s just a wildcard at this point. I’d waive him.
Waive Ball, incentisize a Lavine trade with the 2nd rounders included, Bulls won't get anyone of substance for them anyway. The expiring contract dump is only if they can maneuver the other pieces into something, in this case addition by more subtraction.....so yes rebuild around 2-3 players.
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Waive Ball, incentisize a Lavine trade with the 2nd rounders included, Bulls won't get anyone of substance for them anyway. The expiring contract dump is only if they can maneuver the other pieces into something, in this case addition by more subtraction.....so yes rebuild around 2-3 players.
Yes, I would definitely throw in some of those second rounders with Lavine in a trade to try and get someone to take him. Getting rid of him is the key to building the future. Even if they take a loss getting rid of him.