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The McCaskeys
« on: September 26, 2023, 01:27:13 PM »
Here’s where I’ll concede that it still could be (partly) on the McCaskeys. Do I think the McCaskeys are still sticking their noses into football operations? No. Are they cheap when it comes to free agency? Not really. Anymore.

But it is possible that their frugalness still leaks into who is chosen to run the operation. It doesn’t mean that the right hires can’t be made, it just means we might have a bunch of first timers because they don’t want to pay coaches.

It’s also possible Poles was given a shortlist by George (or that George would have to at least “sign off” on the HC.) Picking a defensive coach was an odd choice in 2023 and having a young QB you gave up two 1sts for. Also perhaps more than coincidental thst Poles and Flus have the same agent.

So yes, the stench of the McCaskeys may still permeate Halas Hall in some ways. It doesn’t mean that good hires can’t still be made. It’s looking like Flus, Getsy, and Williams could have all been better hires.

I am not writing off Flus yet, but it’s definitely trending bad. I was on board totally with the methods of the rebuild, but if you draft/sign the wrong players it won’t matter anyway. A bit early to write off Poles’ players, but so far not trending in the right direction either.
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Re: The McCaskeys
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2023, 01:55:08 PM »
Wasn't Eberlose hired 2 days after Poles was hired?
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Re: The McCaskeys
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2023, 02:00:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 26, 2023, 01:55:08 PM
Wasn't Eberlose hired 2 days after Poles was hired?

What’s your point?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2023, 02:13:21 PM »
Spiegel just said his sources told him Flus was 100% Poles’ guy.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2023, 02:31:28 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 26, 2023, 02:13:21 PM
Spiegel just said his sources told him Flus was 100% Poles’ guy.

How could he do interviews, etc. in just 2 days?
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Re: The McCaskeys
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2023, 02:41:44 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 26, 2023, 02:31:28 PM
How could he do interviews, etc. in just 2 days?

It’s possible if he only had a few candidates, which is kind of what was reported. Looking like a mistake not to interview McDaniel.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: The McCaskeys
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2023, 02:46:42 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 26, 2023, 01:27:13 PM
Here’s where I’ll concede that it still could be (partly) on the McCaskeys. Do I think the McCaskeys are still sticking their noses into football operations? No. Are they cheap when it comes to free agency? Not really. Anymore.

But it is possible that their frugalness still leaks into who is chosen to run the operation. It doesn’t mean that the right hires can’t be made, it just means we might have a bunch of first timers because they don’t want to pay coaches.

It’s also possible Poles was given a shortlist by George (or that George would have to at least “sign off” on the HC.) Picking a defensive coach was an odd choice in 2023 and having a young QB you gave up two 1sts for. Also perhaps more than coincidental thst Poles and Flus have the same agent.

So yes, the stench of the McCaskeys may still permeate Halas Hall in some ways. It doesn’t mean that good hires can’t still be made. It’s looking like Flus, Getsy, and Williams could have all been better hires.

I am not writing off Flus yet, but it’s definitely trending bad. I was on board totally with the methods of the rebuild, but if you draft/sign the wrong players it won’t matter anyway. A bit early to write off Poles’ players, but so far not trending in the right direction either.

owners are typically way way way more involved in the decision making stuff than you would think
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2023, 03:32:13 PM »
I feel like that was probably once the case with the McCaskeys. I don’t think that’s the case anymore, but I do think their frugalness and mentality could still taint what goes on. It doesn’t mean you can’t hire the right people, just maybe makes your window a little smaller. JMO
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2023, 09:15:45 AM »
Looks like it’s not just the McCaskeys who have issues! Lol

https://x.com/stephiesmallls/status/1707028448613441961?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Re: The McCaskeys
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2023, 09:43:47 AM »
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