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WTF is up with this Clown World?

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1845 on: June 02, 2022, 07:23:51 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 01, 2022, 11:55:29 PM
Working remote isn’t all that great for a lot of people. And it’s not like everyone works in a fucking cubicle for shit’s sake.

There are objective benefits to working with other people in a collaborative environment beyond the (likely cherry picked) nonsense Nichi parsed from Watters.

Lots of people don’t need to go to an office setting to do their jobs. Some do. A lot of people I work with have decided to stay home permanently. Many others prefer to go into the office every day and be on a schedule and interact with their colleagues.

I imagine all this will shake out just fine but hey, let’s turn this into a political football too!

It’s also pretty great how Musk went from the darling of the champagne left to pariah so quickly. 

Wonder what will happen when metro SF office buildings have been vacated and everyone is working remote?

I don't know much about Musk or care to. But my cynical Spider sense tells me he knows his market landscape. Wealthy lefties already buy his crap cars. He see there is an untapped market: the suckers who support Trump. Thus, his "shift."
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1846 on: June 02, 2022, 07:29:30 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 01, 2022, 11:55:29 PM

Wonder what will happen when metro SF office buildings have been vacated and everyone is working remote?

They'll be empty.  Restaurants and other businesses catering to office workers will close. Tax collections go down..But can then convert the office buildings to homeless shelters.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1847 on: June 02, 2022, 08:41:51 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2022, 07:29:30 AM
They'll be empty.  Restaurants and other businesses catering to office workers will close. Tax collections go down..But can then convert the office buildings to homeless shelters.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1848 on: June 02, 2022, 10:14:01 AM »
Yup Musk is a jerk.  I guess supporting electric cars fooled people. 

This dude has no filter.  I can only imagine the headache his HR team is facing right now.  The mix of remote and in-person activity should accord to what the job requires.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1849 on: June 02, 2022, 10:16:13 AM »
If musk was truly going to do a 400IQ move he'd fire all the worthless HR and DAI people too
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1850 on: June 02, 2022, 11:46:33 AM »
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1851 on: June 02, 2022, 11:56:15 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2022, 11:46:33 AM
I'd think this could be Golf, but I doubt he has any friends.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/i-will-hit-you-florida-man-77-punches-friend-84-over-golf-etiquette-at-the-villages-deputies-say
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1852 on: June 02, 2022, 12:06:51 PM »
Quote from: Mn on June 02, 2022, 11:56:15 AM
Sometimes, when you get what you ask for, it is delivered.
An 84 year old should know that.

Just proves you are never too old to learn, my friend.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1853 on: June 02, 2022, 02:35:06 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2022, 07:23:51 AM
I don't know much about Musk or care to. But my cynical Spider sense tells me he knows his market landscape. Wealthy lefties already buy his crap cars. He see there is an untapped market: the suckers who support Trump. Thus, his "shift."

My son is friends with 2 kids whose dad wrote a book on Musk, and had to interview him extensively. So he's a pretty big Musk fanboy.

I expressed my skepticism over Tesla's market value, he said "look at all the Teslas here in CA, expand that to the country and it's a trillion dollar company"

I just said "You mean like Honda" (hint: not a trillion dollar company). And Tesla can't expand that to the country because of the price point, and his original point is broken anyway. There are Teslas all over the South Bay, but not so many in Fresno. My sister's kids go to a hoity toity private school in Lafayette IN, plenty of Teslas there. Unless they can adjust their price point to be closer to Honda or Ford, they can't expand into lower median income ranges, and if they do, their margins go to pot.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1854 on: June 02, 2022, 03:08:23 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2022, 07:29:30 AM
They'll be empty.  Restaurants and other businesses catering to office workers will close. Tax collections go down..But can then convert the office buildings to homeless shelters.

My thinking
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1855 on: June 02, 2022, 03:14:12 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 02, 2022, 03:08:23 PM
My thinking
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1856 on: June 02, 2022, 03:25:56 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 02, 2022, 02:35:06 PM
My son is friends with 2 kids whose dad wrote a book on Musk, and had to interview him extensively. So he's a pretty big Musk fanboy.

I expressed my skepticism over Tesla's market value, he said "look at all the Teslas here in CA, expand that to the country and it's a trillion dollar company"

I just said "You mean like Honda" (hint: not a trillion dollar company). And Tesla can't expand that to the country because of the price point, and his original point is broken anyway. There are Teslas all over the South Bay, but not so many in Fresno. My sister's kids go to a hoity toity private school in Lafayette IN, plenty of Teslas there. Unless they can adjust their price point to be closer to Honda or Ford, they can't expand into lower median income ranges, and if they do, their margins go to pot.

Forget about buying an overpriced new Tesla.  If anyone is in the market for an electric vehicle, I would suggest looking at used EVs. 

The savings will vary by model, but on average, used EVs cost 43% to 72% less than new ones.  Plus, they are significantly less expensive to maintain than comparable used gas-powered cars.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/the-pros-and-cons-of-buying-a-used-ev.html
https://www.greencars.com/post/what-to-consider-when-buying-a-used-electric-vehicle
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1857 on: June 02, 2022, 03:33:45 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on June 02, 2022, 03:25:56 PM
Forget about buying an overpriced new Tesla.  If anyone is in the market for an electric vehicle, I would suggest looking at used EVs. 

The savings will vary by model, but on average, used EVs cost 43% to 72% less than new ones.  Plus, they are significantly less expensive to maintain than comparable used gas-powered cars.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/the-pros-and-cons-of-buying-a-used-ev.html
https://www.greencars.com/post/what-to-consider-when-buying-a-used-electric-vehicle

How are the batteries in the used ones? Feel free to call me B1GTenPAThey.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1858 on: June 02, 2022, 03:35:04 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on June 02, 2022, 03:25:56 PM
Forget about buying an overpriced new Tesla.  If anyone is in the market for an electric vehicle, I would suggest looking at used EVs. 

The savings will vary by model, but on average, used EVs cost 43% to 72% less than new ones.  Plus, they are significantly less expensive to maintain than comparable used gas-powered cars.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/the-pros-and-cons-of-buying-a-used-ev.html
https://www.greencars.com/post/what-to-consider-when-buying-a-used-electric-vehicle

True for used cars in general, but are EV's available on the used market? For a while, used Teslas pretty much didn't exist.

One thing about buying a used EV - while an ICE car will have some life out of it, need new tires, have some miles in the transmission, etc... with used EVs you start getting into the situation where the battery range has decreased.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #1859 on: June 02, 2022, 03:36:47 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 02, 2022, 02:35:06 PM
My son is friends with 2 kids whose dad wrote a book on Musk, and had to interview him extensively. So he's a pretty big Musk fanboy.

I expressed my skepticism over Tesla's market value, he said "look at all the Teslas here in CA, expand that to the country and it's a trillion dollar company"

I just said "You mean like Honda" (hint: not a trillion dollar company). And Tesla can't expand that to the country because of the price point, and his original point is broken anyway. There are Teslas all over the South Bay, but not so many in Fresno. My sister's kids go to a hoity toity private school in Lafayette IN, plenty of Teslas there. Unless they can adjust their price point to be closer to Honda or Ford, they can't expand into lower median income ranges, and if they do, their margins go to pot.

Despite the overall point re cost, there are plenty of rich Trumpers too.

I did notice that the rink in Irvine when we out there had a bunch of charging stations in front. Had not seen anything like that around here. They were always packed with people charging their cars when we were at the rink.
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