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WTF is up with this Clown World?

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #960 on: June 17, 2021, 11:53:56 AM »
https://www.newsweek.com/before-you-use-word-spooky-you-should-know-its-racist-origins-1541441

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With all the skeletons, witch hats and spider webs decorating homes and stores across the nation during Halloween—not to mention the plethora of horror movies widely available during the month of October—it seems fitting to call it "spooky" season.

However, there are connotations associated with the word "spooky" that are much more horrifying than the ghosts to which the term usually refers.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #961 on: June 17, 2021, 03:22:41 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on June 17, 2021, 11:53:56 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/before-you-use-word-spooky-you-should-know-its-racist-origins-1541441

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What a crappy article. The headline claims the term has racist origins, the article itself says it does not.

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"Black pilots trained at Tuskegee Institute during World War II called themselves the Spookwaffe."
https://www.etymonline.com/word/spook

https://www.etymonline.com/word/spook
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #962 on: June 17, 2021, 03:32:35 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 17, 2021, 03:22:41 PM
What a crappy article. The headline claims the term has racist origins, the article itself says it does not.

Also,

"Black pilots trained at Tuskegee Institute during World War II called themselves the Spookwaffe."
https://www.etymonline.com/word/spook

https://www.etymonline.com/word/spook

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #963 on: June 17, 2021, 03:36:01 PM »
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 – 1882), like most educated people of his time, was exposed to so-called scientific racist theories. He struggled with and, ultimately, rejected them. He opposed slavery. He supported full emancipation, reparations, education, citizenship, and voting rights. That does not stop some activists from taking a few things he wrote out of context to call him racist. Part of the rationale is that he actually dared to like some aspects of his English culture and was an advocate for self reliance.     
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #964 on: June 17, 2021, 04:55:36 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 17, 2021, 03:36:01 PM
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 – 1882), like most educated people of his time, was exposed to so-called scientific racist theories. He struggled with, and ultimately, rejected them. He opposed slavery. He supported full emancipation, reparations, education, citizenship, and voting rights. That does not stop some activists from taking a few things he wrote out of context to call him racist. Part of the rationale is that he actually dared to like some aspects of his English culture and was an advocate for self reliance.   

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #965 on: June 17, 2021, 06:06:00 PM »
In 50-75-100 years, if the world lasts that long, we'll be criticized for something; be it not educating the kids, the societal impact of identity politics, the amassing of wealth by the upper class, or any of a number of issues.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #966 on: June 17, 2021, 07:48:33 PM »
Quote from: Mn on June 17, 2021, 06:06:00 PM
In 50-75-100 years, if the world lasts that long, we'll be criticized for something; be it not educating the kids, the societal impact of identity politics, the amassing of wealth by the upper class, or any of a number of issues.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #967 on: June 17, 2021, 07:52:58 PM »
Some will be impressed that the bankruptcy court for the Northern District of Illiniois announced this afternoon that it will be closed tomorrow for the Federal Juneteenth holiday.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #968 on: June 17, 2021, 07:57:26 PM »
Agreed.

Quote from: Mn on June 17, 2021, 06:06:00 PM
In 50-75-100 years, if the world lasts that long, we'll be criticized for something; be it not educating the kids, the societal impact of identity politics, the amassing of wealth by the upper class, or any of a number of issues.
The way we talk about "racism" has always been a problem. It prevents people from understanding in group/out group behavior.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #969 on: June 17, 2021, 08:29:45 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 17, 2021, 07:52:58 PM
Some will be impressed that the bankruptcy court for the Northern District of Illiniois announced this afternoon that it will be closed tomorrow for the Federal Juneteenth holiday.
2 long summer weekends for federal employees outta 3. Quite a deal. They should have just declared June 19 to July 4 a federal holiday.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #970 on: June 18, 2021, 08:11:21 AM »
Maybe it's the time for a 4 day workweek to become the norm.  Now that would be progress!
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #971 on: June 18, 2021, 12:25:44 PM »
Quote from: Mn on June 17, 2021, 08:29:45 PM
2 long summer weekends for federal employees outta 3. Quite a deal. They should have just declared June 19 to July 4 a federal holiday.

You can add Minneapolis city workers to the list of “lucky duckies” that will get another three-day weekend.  I understand white employees will have the option of referring to the new holiday as Abraham Lincoln Emancipation Day. 
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/05/12/minneapolis-makes-juneteenth-an-official-city-holiday/

Here’s an interesting article on the 94-year-old women who fought to make Juneteenth a national holiday.
https://variety.com/2021/politics/features/activist-opal-lee-juneteenth-holiday-1234998507/
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #972 on: June 18, 2021, 01:12:51 PM »
Quote from: fucking on June 17, 2021, 07:57:26 PM
Agreed.
The way we talk about "racism" has always been a problem. It prevents people from understanding in group/out group behavior.

Not sure, but I think I understand what you’re saying.   I would not call anything “racist” in any educational initiative.   Avoid personal trait references.  Focus on the structural inequities that crept into areas of society and institutions.   This would help reduce knee-jerk reactions, although many would argue that ship has sailed. 
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #973 on: June 18, 2021, 01:21:10 PM »
The word has been applied to any and all situations. It doesn't mean anything anymore.

It meant, in its original form, that skin color determines capabilities.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #974 on: June 18, 2021, 01:32:56 PM »
Quote from: fucking on June 18, 2021, 01:21:10 PM
The word has been applied to any and all situations. It doesn't mean anything anymore.

It meant, in its original form, that skin color determines capabilities.

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