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WTF is up with this Clown World?

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #930 on: May 26, 2021, 07:33:52 PM »
Why are you pegging PAThey?
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #931 on: June 05, 2021, 11:10:01 PM »
https://www.koin.com/news/organizers-of-naked-bike-ride-wont-require-shirts-or-pants-but-masks-are-a-must/

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) – Philadelphia bike riders won’t need their shirts, pants, skirts or even underwear — just a mask.

Organizers of the annual Philly Naked Bike Ride say this year’s event will take place Aug. 28 and will require masks, based on the city’s earlier coronavirus restrictions.

The city lifted most of its COVID-19 rules this week, citing an increase in vaccinations and a decrease in cases. But ride organizers said they hadn’t had a chance to chat since the city’s guidelines changed so for the time being, they’re “going to stick with our initial mask guidance.” Lead organizer Wesley Noonan-Sessa said they’ll keep an eye on what the city says in the next month or so.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #932 on: June 15, 2021, 12:35:51 AM »
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #933 on: June 15, 2021, 06:54:00 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on June 15, 2021, 12:35:51 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2021/bird-names-racism-audubon/

😂 it never ends
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #934 on: June 15, 2021, 02:41:41 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on June 15, 2021, 12:35:51 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2021/bird-names-racism-audubon/

😂 it never ends

Another case of selectively imposing 21st C outrage and cancel culture on historical figures.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #935 on: June 15, 2021, 02:58:10 PM »
Shakespeare never had actors of color at The Globe!
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #936 on: June 15, 2021, 06:40:51 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 15, 2021, 02:41:41 PM
Another case of selectively imposing 21st C outrage and cancel culture on historical figures.

The National Audubon Society is a private membership-based, non-profit organization.   John James Audubon did not form the organization.  It was named after him posthumously in the late 19th century because of his pioneering and brilliant work with North American birds. 

Injustice and inequity don’t have statutes of limitations.  Racists don’t get a pass because of historical contexts.  If the organization wants to acknowledge, discuss and grapple with the checkered past of Audubon and several of his fellow ornithologists, that’s their business.   

Deal with it. 

From Audubon Magazine: The Myth of John James Audubon
https://www.audubon.org/news/the-myth-john-james-audubon
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #937 on: June 15, 2021, 06:45:44 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on June 15, 2021, 06:40:51 PM
The National Audubon Society is a private membership-based, non-profit organization.   John James Audubon did not form the organization.  It was named after him posthumously in the late 19th century because of his pioneering and brilliant work with North American birds. 

Injustice and inequity don’t have statutes of limitations.  Racists don’t get a pass because of historical contexts.  If the organization wants to acknowledge, discuss and grapple with the checkered past of Audubon and several of his fellow ornithologists, that’s their business.   

Deal with it. 

From Audubon Magazine: The Myth of John James Audubon
https://www.audubon.org/news/the-myth-john-james-audubon

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #938 on: June 15, 2021, 07:11:35 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on June 15, 2021, 06:40:51 PM

Injustice and inequity don’t have statutes of limitations.  Racists don’t get a pass because of historical contexts.  If the organization wants to acknowledge, discuss and grapple with the checkered past of Audubon and several of his fellow ornithologists, that’s their business.   

Deal with it. 

From Audubon Magazine: The Myth of John James Audubon
https://www.audubon.org/news/the-myth-john-james-audubon

The same sort of thing can be and has been said of Woodrow Wilson and Margaret Sanger, among others. Racist attitudes may not have a statute of limitations, but they do have a historical context.

According to the best extant records, the historical Buddha was staunchly pro-life, fairly sexist and possibly even homophobic by our standards. Cancel Buddhism? Or consider the context of India 2500 years ago?

Private organizations are free to judge historical figures by our current standards if they wish. Others are free to disagree with that approach.

Deal with that.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #939 on: June 15, 2021, 07:23:18 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 15, 2021, 07:11:35 PM
The same sort of thing can be and has been said of Woodrow Wilson and Margaret Sanger, among others. Racist attitudes may not have a statute of limitations, but they do have a historical context.

According to the best extant records, the historical Buddha was staunchly pro-life, fairly sexist and possibly even homophobic by our standards. Cancel Buddhism? Or consider the context of India 2500 years ago?

Private organizations are free to judge historical figures by our current standards if they wish. Others are free to disagree with that approach.

Deal with that.

Talk to the Wilson Sanger society.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #940 on: June 15, 2021, 07:32:19 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 15, 2021, 07:23:18 PM
Talk to the Wilson Sanger society.

Planned Parenthood in N.Y. Disavows Margaret Sanger Over Eugenics
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/planned-parenthood-margaret-sanger-eugenics.html

Princeton University to remove Woodrow Wilson's name from public policy school and residential college
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/27/us/woodrow-wilson-princeton-university-trnd/index.html

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #941 on: June 15, 2021, 09:20:37 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 15, 2021, 07:32:19 PM
Planned Parenthood in N.Y. Disavows Margaret Sanger Over Eugenics
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/planned-parenthood-margaret-sanger-eugenics.html

Princeton University to remove Woodrow Wilson's name from public policy school and residential college
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/27/us/woodrow-wilson-princeton-university-trnd/index.html

Also private organizations. Why do you hate freedom
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #942 on: June 15, 2021, 09:51:16 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 15, 2021, 09:20:37 PM
Also private organizations. Why do you hate freedom

Why do you hate reading comprehension? .

As I previously wrote:

Private organizations are free to judge historical figures by our current standards if they wish. Others are free to disagree with that approach.

Deal with that.

I have not changed my mind in the last couple hours. I believe a historical person's views should be weighed in the context of the standards of their time, not ours.



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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #943 on: June 15, 2021, 09:56:38 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 15, 2021, 09:51:16 PM
Why do you hate reading comprehension? .

As I previously wrote:

Private organizations are free to judge historical figures by our current standards if they wish. Others are free to disagree with that approach.

Deal with that.

I have not changed my mind in the last couple hours. I believe a historical person's views should be weighed in the context of the standards of their time, not ours.

Not sure Woodrow Wilson should be the poster child for your program.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #944 on: June 15, 2021, 10:29:10 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 15, 2021, 09:56:38 PM
Not sure Woodrow Wilson should be the poster child for your program.

The progressive who won a Nobel Peace Prize for leading the creation of the League of Nations?
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