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WTF is up with this Clown World?

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4995 on: January 30, 2026, 12:25:17 PM »
They haven't been refuted tho.

You conveniently gloss over 4 years of the Biden administration to find quotes from 40 years ago that have nothing to do with the current left efforts to protect people with criminal records and orders for deportation signed by judges.


We have been over the 4 years of the Biden Admin numerous times. My hands are getting worn out reposting the same information over and over.

Nobody is shielding anyone with actual criminal records and judicial warrants.

Most of the people arrested by ICE have no criminal history and no judicial warrants..

We have been over this as well, with documentation..
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4996 on: January 30, 2026, 12:29:57 PM »
ICE needs to get judicial warrants. Tom Homan hinted they might do that.
The left wants that demand.
An order of removal from an immigration judge is, and has been, sufficient.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4997 on: January 30, 2026, 12:47:09 PM »
Wait, so you’re against unlawful/illegal entry/immigration?! 🤔

Unlawful entry should be decriminalized. It is already almost always a civil offence in practice..

We should have the work permit system that Reagan endorsed 46 years ago.

I support amnesty for those who have already been here and working honest jobs for years. Especially for dreamers.

Focus efforts on drug smuggling, human trafficking, hard core gangsters .....
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4998 on: January 30, 2026, 01:34:41 PM »


We have been over the 4 years of the Biden Admin numerous times. My hands are getting worn out reposting the same information over and over.

Nobody is shielding anyone with actual criminal records and judicial warrants.

Most of the people arrested by ICE have no criminal history and no judicial warrants..

We have been over this as well, with documentation..
A order of removal from an immigration judge is a lawful order.

There doesn't need to be a criminal conviction.

There doesn't need to be a judicial warrant to deport someone with an order of removal from an immigration judge.

Until Congress changes immigration practices the current practices stand.



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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4999 on: January 30, 2026, 03:06:54 PM »
A order of removal from an immigration judge is a lawful order.

There doesn't need to be a criminal conviction.

There doesn't need to be a judicial warrant to deport someone with an order of removal from an immigration judge.

Until Congress changes immigration practices the current practices stand.

I've seen a lot of people who hate Mexicans, but dude you REALLY hate Mexicans.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #5000 on: January 30, 2026, 03:31:54 PM »
A order of removal from an immigration judge is a lawful order.

There doesn't need to be a criminal conviction.

There doesn't need to be a judicial warrant to deport someone with an order of removal from an immigration judge.

.Until Congress changes immigration practices the current practices stand

You are correct. There doesn't have to be a criminal conviction. Except we were told they are only going after the worst of the worst. We the people aren't going to tolerate ICE and Border Patrol occupying our neighborhoods to round up people whose only crime was unlawful entry.

One issue is whether a signed order of removal with an.administrative order is sufficient to make an arrest.

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Based on recent 2026 reports, ICE agents may attempt to enter homes without a judicial warrant if they possess a final order of removal from an immigration judge and a signed administrative warrant (Form I-200), particularly after knocking and being refused entry. While traditionally a judicial warrant was required, recent memos suggest a shift allowing agents to use administrative warrants for home entry.

*Key points regarding this situation include:

*Administrative vs. Judicial Warrants: ICE uses administrative warrants (signed by an ICE supervisor) rather than judicial warrants (signed by a judge or magistrate) to authorize arrests.

*Policy Shift: A January 2026 memo indicated that ICE agents are authorized to force entry into a home if they have a final order of removal and an administrative warrant, following a "knock and announce" procedure.

*Constitutional Concerns: This practice is considered controversial by legal experts, with some arguing that entering a home without a judicial warrant violates the U.S. Constitution, despite the internal ICE authorization.

*Your Rights: While ICE asserts authority to enter with administrative warrants, individuals generally have the right to keep their door closed and ask to see a warrant signed by a judge.
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I am pretty sure the current regime doesn't give a shit what Congress says
« Last Edit: January 30, 2026, 03:34:28 PM by illiniray »
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #5001 on: January 31, 2026, 08:52:01 AM »
Nope. It's the tactics that Walz and Frey are using that are the concern.
With their refusal to cooperate, ICE is forced to do detainments in public rather than in a jail.

They could just review the court records, as anyone can, and sit on front of jails and wait for the crininals to come out, can't they?
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #5002 on: January 31, 2026, 09:48:12 AM »
They could just review the court records, as anyone can, and sit on front of jails and wait for the crininals to come out, can't they?



Minnesota law enforcement could just cooperate with federal law enforcement instead of hiding behind the 'we're not going to enforce immigration law' argument when cooperating would allow immigration enforcement to enforce immigration law. Couldn't they ?

Other jurisdictions appear to be quite capable of cooperating without baselessly falling back on the 'it's not our job' excuse.

There are Minnesota jurisdictions outside of the Twin Cities that actually support ICE operations. ICE members are able to go to restaurants, perform their duties, and sleep at night at a hotel without having to listen to the Democrat party street militia band.

Has the Lt Governor of Illinois suggested to people that they 'put your body on the line' ?
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #5003 on: January 31, 2026, 12:49:31 PM »


Minnesota law enforcement could just cooperate with federal law enforcement instead of hiding behind the 'we're not going to enforce immigration law' argument when cooperating would allow immigration enforcement to enforce immigration law. Couldn't they ?


How about answering the question?

They broke down a door and dragged an old man outside in his underwear for no reason. If they had just checked the correct website; they would have found the guy they were looking for. He was in a Minnesota prison.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #5004 on: January 31, 2026, 01:11:11 PM »
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Sanctuary cities are jurisdictions that limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities, primarily by declining to honor "detainers" issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for individuals in local custody. These policies, which began in the 1980s, are designed to enhance public safety by encouraging immigrant communities to report crimes without fear of deportation.

The conflict often hinges on the distinction between administrative warrants (issued by ICE) and judicial warrants (issued by a court), with many sanctuaries only honoring the latter.

ICE Detainers (Form I-247)

*Definition: An ICE detainer, or "ICE hold," is a nonbinding request from ICE to a local law enforcement agency (LEA) to maintain custody of a person—who would otherwise be released—for up to 48 hours to allow ICE to take them into custody.

*Legal Status: Federal courts have frequently found that holding individuals solely on the basis of a detainer is illegal and may violate Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful detention.

*Sanctuary Policy: Most sanctuary policies instruct local agencies to refuse these requests, as they are not legally binding commands, and to refrain from notifying ICE about release dates.

Administrative Warrants (Forms I-200, I-205

"Definition: These are civil immigration warrants signed by an ICE supervisor or agent, not an independent judge or magistrate. They authorize the arrest of a noncitizen for immigration purposes.

*Limitations: Because they are not reviewed by a judicial branch officer, they do not authorize nonconsensual entry into a private residence.

*"Secret" Directive: As of early 2026, a legal challenge arose regarding a previously undisclosed ICE directive suggesting that a "Warrant of Removal/Deportation" (Form I-205) could be used to enter homes without consent, which civil liberties advocates argue conflicts with the Fourth Amendment.

Judicial Warrants

"Definition: A warrant issued by a federal or state judge/magistrate based on a finding of probable cause

*Authority: A judicial warrant authorizes law enforcement to make an arrest, search, or seizure, and must be complied with, including entry into private homes.

*Sanctuary Requirement: Many sanctuary jurisdictions will only cooperate with ICE if they provide a judicial warrant, citing the need for constitutional compliance.

History

*1980s Origins: Sanctuary policies originated in the 1980s when religious organizations provided sanctuary to Central American refugees fleeing civil war, which the Reagan administration classified as "economic migration".

*First Municipalities: San Francisco was the first to adopt a formal "City of Refuge" ordinance (No. 12-h) in 1989, prohibiting the use of city resources for federal immigration enforcement.

*2017–Present: The Trump administration attempted to revoke federal funding for sanctuary cities, resulting in legal battles over the scope of 8 U.S.C. § 1373, which concerns information sharing.

Rationale

*Public Safety & Trust: The primary argument is that when local police act as immigration agents, immigrants stop reporting crimes, making communities less safe.

"Resource Allocation: Local jurisdictions argue that detaining immigrants for civil infractions is a federal responsibility and a waste of local taxpayer money and police resources.

*Constitutional Protection: Supporters argue that complying with ICE requests without a judicial warrant violates the Fourth Amendment rights of residents.

Recent Developments (2025–2026)

*Stricter Detentions: An ICE memo issued around July 2025 instructed Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) officers that individuals who entered without inspection were generally no longer eligible for bail, aiming for expedited removal.

*Increased Detainers: Some cities, such as Boston, saw a sharp rise in detainer requests (57 in 2025 vs. 15 in 2024), despite local policies to reject them.

*Litigation: Legal challenges are currently addressing whether administrative warrants can be used to enter private homes, with lawsuits arguing they violate the Fourth Amendment.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #5005 on: January 31, 2026, 01:15:08 PM »


Minnesota law enforcement could just cooperate with federal law enforcement instead of hiding behind the 'we're not going to enforce immigration law' argument when cooperating would allow immigration enforcement to enforce immigration law. Couldn't they ?

Other jurisdictions appear to be quite capable of cooperating without baselessly falling back on the 'it's not our job' excuse.

There are Minnesota jurisdictions outside of the Twin Cities that actually support ICE operations. ICE members are able to go to restaurants, perform their duties, and sleep at night at a hotel without having to listen to the Democrat party street militia band.

Has the Lt Governor of Illinois suggested to people that they 'put your body on the line' ?
So they can review the file and go to the person's house.

Except they have a law against that because they want to encourage reporting of crimes without fear that the reporter will be deported. That's the point behind the laws. Like Nichi said.
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« Reply #5006 on: January 31, 2026, 01:24:05 PM »




Other jurisdictions appear to be quite capable of cooperating without baselessly falling back on the 'it's not our job' excuse.

There are Minnesota jurisdictions outside of the Twin Cities that actually support ICE operations.

Other jurisdictions most likely don't have the same issues. Consider the rationales:

Rationale

*Public Safety & Trust: The primary argument is that when local police act as immigration agents, immigrants stop reporting crimes, making communities less safe.

"Resource Allocation: Local jurisdictions argue that detaining immigrants for civil infractions is a federal responsibility and a waste of local taxpayer money and police resources.

*Constitutional Protection: Supporters argue that complying with ICE requests without a judicial warrant violates the Fourth Amendment rights of residents.

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Has the Lt Governor of Illinois suggested to people that they 'put your body on the line' ?

Citing Illinois probably doesn't help your case much. The Chicago area is still enduring operation midway blitz. And we were only invaded by 2 or 3 hundred feds
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #5007 on: February 02, 2026, 06:01:57 PM »
Finally got a video of Custard


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« Reply #5008 on: February 02, 2026, 10:22:44 PM »
Finally got a video of Custard



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« Reply #5009 on: February 04, 2026, 02:07:37 AM »
The fact that Custard has a speedo means there’s about a 65% chance he’s gay. Which could explain his feelings about women.
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