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WTF is up with this Clown World?

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3990 on: December 11, 2024, 11:36:59 AM »
I thought it was a funny story. Plus, it is a true story. I didn't see any white privilege. I don't think that was even a concept yet.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3991 on: December 11, 2024, 12:50:18 PM »
I thought it was a funny story. Plus, it is a true story. I didn't see any white privilege. I don't think that was even a concept yet.

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Of course you didn't see any white privilege.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3992 on: December 11, 2024, 02:43:13 PM »
It is something you thought. So it was inspired by you. Accurately.

Ohhhh, that’s interesting.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3993 on: December 11, 2024, 02:56:21 PM »
Ohhhh, that’s interesting.

I know,  right?
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3994 on: December 11, 2024, 03:59:23 PM »

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3995 on: December 11, 2024, 05:17:24 PM »
I know,  right?

It’s good to know that we now have the right to attribute quotes to people who never said attributed quote. I’m looking forward to employing that tactic.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3996 on: December 11, 2024, 05:42:04 PM »
It’s good to know that we now have the right to attribute quotes to people who never said attributed quote. I’m looking forward to employing that tactic.

You already do
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3997 on: December 12, 2024, 11:57:26 AM »

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3998 on: December 13, 2024, 03:12:38 PM »
https://www.persuasion.community/p/the-tragedy-of-jordan-neely-and-daniel

Custard's Guy DeBoer qouted....

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The Tragedy of Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny
If not for America's prohibition on involuntary commitment, they would probably have never met.
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Neely entered the train at 2nd Avenue loudly complaining of hunger and thirst, throwing down his jacket and shouting that he didn’t care if he went back to jail, even for a life sentence, and that he was “ready to die.” Penny pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide, and his attorneys have argued that he was trying only to restrain Neely, not to kill him. (Passengers other than Penny were worried about what Neely, judging from his own words and demeanor, might do).

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On the left, many activist groups and elected figures rejected the verdict out of hand. Some tried to depict Neely as a man pushed to the limit by poverty, and whose difficulties end there—despite the fact that Neely had been picked up two years earlier for breaking a 67-year-old woman’s nose and fracturing her orbital bone as she exited the subway, in exactly the type of random, violent outburst to which the severely mentally ill are sometimes prone. On the right, meanwhile, many have argued that Penny shouldn’t be tried, but celebrated as a hero and even a patriot, with seemingly very little recognition that a man, Neely, is now dead—or even that he, or any others suffering under similar circumstances, were ever deserving of sympathy to begin with.

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Confined in the car with Neely and a bunch of frightened and vulnerable people, Penny can hardly be said to have gone in search of a proving ground that day. The question of whether he misapplied the choke that must have seemed like the least of all bad options was rightly a main focus of the trial.

What shouldn’t be in dispute, however, is that the status quo regarding crime, mental health, and homelessness is intolerable. America needs a real conversation about the decades of failed policy that conspired to put Neely—and Penny—in harm’s way.

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And while the statistical relationship between deinstitutionalization and mass incarceration is unclear, people suffering from severe mental illness are, in fact, more likely to commit violent crimes, and our current revolving-door setup does very little to meaningfully deter people from that path.

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Neely’s too-short life is a case-in-point for whom the current system fails. In and out of jails and hospitals for the past decade, Neely was 14 when his mother was murdered by his stepfather. Her remains were discovered in a suitcase discarded on the shoulder of the Henry Hudson Parkway, and when he was 18, Neely testified in the murder trial. Contemporaneous reports compiled since his discharge from foster care at age 21 depict a man of profoundly wrecked psyche, who suffered from major depression, schizophrenia, PTSD, the destabilizing effects of synthetic cannabinoids, and the associated bodily ravages of severe mental illness and life on the streets.

Released from Rikers Island on a plea deal following his attack on the 67-year-old subway passenger two years ago, Neely was required to complete a 15-month stay in an intensive inpatient treatment center. He walked out after 13 days. Three months after that, he was dead. And his case isn’t unusual: according to one journalist, of the more than 45,000 individuals “engaged” by the NYPD in the subway system in 2022, only 7,700 accepted assistance. Too often, when offered assistance (however dubious), psychiatrically unwell people prefer to go it alone—as the courts have established is their right. As the critic and author Freddie DeBoer has argued, “Our mental health crisis is not merely a crisis of access; it is also a crisis of refusal.”

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Jordan Neely deserved better—as did Daniel Penny, who ought still to be an anonymous student, unfamed and unhated, one among millions who work and study quietly in this city. But no matter whether you support the trial outcome or not, what a broader sense of justice requires of us is to look unflinchingly at the status quo surrounding mental health and homelessness and decide if it’s the best we, as a wealthy, modern country, can do. The answer should be “No.”
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #3999 on: December 13, 2024, 06:35:02 PM »
You already do

Haha not very much, I get roasted here if I leave out a comma on one of your quotes. I at least try to stick to things you've said or implied, instead of making things up whole cloth.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4000 on: December 13, 2024, 07:48:54 PM »
FDB usually gets it right. When he’s not in the throes of his own bipolar episodes, that is.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4001 on: December 14, 2024, 08:24:31 AM »
'Nobody did anything illegal' was the VP candidate's response when asked how the state missed what has been described as the largest fraud case in U.S. history.
Walz was referring to state employees not doing anything illegal in the state's lack of oversight.
We'll add another one from the fishwrap, lol.



EIDBI is a state and federal funding program for kids under 21 with autism.
And Walz said the state couldn't stop funding them without a conviction. But it appears as tho the state never tried to convict anyone. They called up the feds instead, and they had to do their investigation.
The number of autism services program centers went from 41 in 2018 to 328 last year.
And our AG ? His name was being tossed around to be the Harris/Walz AG. 👌

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4002 on: December 14, 2024, 09:35:34 AM »
Nm
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4003 on: December 17, 2024, 07:35:48 AM »
Ooops. 🤡



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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #4004 on: December 17, 2024, 09:29:30 AM »
Trouble in the 51st state ?

https://x.com/i/status/1868741492552110185