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WTF is up with this Clown World?

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2020, 02:25:48 PM »
You’d think in 2020 people could call a game without actually being there.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2020, 02:36:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 12, 2020, 01:12:13 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/12/nfl-wont-let-kenny-albert-call-sundays-bears-lions-game/amp/

Guy has been in the bubble in Edmonton and Canada appears to know what it is doing with the Covid-19.

Instead we get Dick Stockton? Clown World!

Tune in early for the NFL pre-game coverage. Maybe they'll show some clips of the Vikings in their pre-game sjw wear. Nobody will be at the game, so there must be a reason for the heads up.

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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2020, 03:10:19 PM »
oh the irony of the NFL propping up yet another violent criminal
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2020, 03:51:22 PM »
The thoughts that must be running through Ray Rice’s head right now
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2020, 04:53:31 PM »


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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2020, 06:11:40 PM »
Isn't one of the issues in Kenosha was that the chief of police could not confirm that the cops on the scene knew the b/g of the guy when they pumped him full of lead? If that's the case, then his record is irrelevant.

As for the Minnesota guy, the cops' defense appears to be blaming each other to.prevemt a jury from finding reasonable doubt against any one of them or all of them? Sure sounds like it.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2020, 10:46:04 PM »
I don’t have time to goggle it but they would have known why they were called there, right?
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2020, 11:47:13 PM »
Quote from: Custard on September 12, 2020, 10:46:04 PM
I don’t have time to goggle it but they would have known why they were called there, right?

They were called there, but I thought the issue was that they were not necessarily given details on the history or had time to look it up.  Meaning they knew there was a dispute occurring, but they didn't know anything else at the time..
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2020, 12:30:13 AM »
I think when it gets down to this level it just underscores exactly how fucking hard it is to be a cop in crime ridden areas and have to make snap decisions in intense situations.

I sold an item online today and met the buyer in Kankakee on my way by. Super nice dude, late 40s or so, not real big, looked like a banker or accountant but was driving an older import. Soft spoken, measured in his speech, and wearing a charity pullover. The kind people usually get for doing a lot for said charity.

I forgot to bring a piece of the item he bought so I said I’d be happy to meet up with him again next time I’m going through. He told me he has been a cop in K3 for 24 years and with everything going on it wasn’t a good time to be a cop.

His schedule is way out of whack due to increased criminal activity, he isn’t seeing his family or his kids’ events, he doesn’t know what hours he’s working beyond the next day, and because of his rank he’s basically never off duty.  They’re basically being told to stand down unless it’s life threatening.

I put myself in his shoes and tried to reconcile having the occupation of enforcing the law against being asked to allow community wrecking crime by certain protected groups. All the while he’s missing time he can never get back with his wife and kids.

There are a lot of bad cops that seek the position to have power over others and they should be held accountable at the highest level. But imo there are FAR more guys like the one I met today whose home life is being compromised while also having his entire job being redefined every time a news program airs. These guys aren’t the enemy.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2020, 07:57:31 AM »
What little I've seen, and and some are alleged.
In Kenosha, the police were responding to a 911 call. Without the contents of the call or the comments of the dispatcher to the police, it's conjecture what the police did or did not know.
Blake entered the woman's residence and took the kids and her car keys.
Blake later had a head lock on one of the responding police officers.
Blake was tased twice while resisting.
Someone, not the police, apparently shouted "drop the knife" twice. A knife was found on the floorboard when Blake tried entering the woman's car, where he already had the kids in the back seat. Blake's movements reaching into the car do not appear to be those of someone trying to sit in the driver's seat.
There is no way for the officer to know if any of the first shots were sufficient to stop Blake. It's possible that it was the last shot that did it.
George Floyd ....
He was in a car apparently breathing ok.
The 2 rookie police officers showed up and Floyd was not cooperative. Chauvin and Thao responded.  Floyd was sitting in the police car when he says that he couldn't breathe. The medical examiner indicated that if Floyd had been found dead alone at home,  his toxicology report would have been sufficient to treat it as an od.
The "I can't breathe" didn't start when he was on the ground.
Mike Freeman, the county attorney, and 3 prosecutors have been currently disqualified from the case by Judge Cahill for discussions with the medical examiner. The Judge cited "sloppy" work.
"The ruling related to a meeting some staff lawyers had with the Hennepin County medical examiner, a likely witness in the case, which allegedly violated the rules of professional conduct for attorneys.
“I think it was sloppy not to have someone [else] present [at a meeting with] a primary witness in this case,” Cahill said."
A defense attorney for one of the officers is requesting information regarding Floyd and his previous cooperation with police as a "snitch".
I'm not defending Chauvin by any means, but there may be a lot more to this story than meets the eye so far.





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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #70 on: September 13, 2020, 08:13:41 AM »
One of the reports said he told them he was claustrophobic when in the police car .

Shocked at claims of prosecutorial misconduct. Shocking!
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #71 on: September 13, 2020, 08:26:58 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 13, 2020, 08:13:41 AM
One of the reports said he told them he was claustrophobic when in the police car .

Shocked at claims of prosecutorial misconduct. Shocking!

I've seen that too. He was apparently ok 20-30 minutes earlier when he was sitting in his own car.
Being in your own car, then arguing with the police for 20 minutes doesn't do much for an "I'm claustrophobic" claim after being placed in the back seat of a police car.

The Judge apparently agrees with you.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #72 on: September 13, 2020, 09:15:17 AM »
Not sure being in custody in the back of a police car is the same as being in your car, but whatever gets you through the day.
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2020, 10:19:07 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 13, 2020, 09:15:17 AM
Not sure being in custody in the back of a police car is the same as being in your car, but whatever gets you through the day.

Those plastic seats are very uncomfortable
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Re: WTF is up with this Clown World?
« Reply #74 on: September 13, 2020, 10:29:30 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 13, 2020, 09:15:17 AM
Not sure being in custody in the back of a police car is the same as being in your car, but whatever gets you through the day.
I've already got plans to get me thru the day.
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