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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1575 on: December 10, 2023, 09:23:57 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 10, 2023, 08:58:32 PM
So you really really love Caleb Williams. Is this what this is about?

Is this a response to me?

From what I understand, both Williams and Maye are considered really good QB prospects, yeah.

Doesn't mean they can't bust, but - let's put it this way.  If Caleb Williams had been eligible last year he'd have been the top guy and likely been considered one of your vaunted "can't-miss prospects".  He played another year with a worse team and some of his shine came off to some, but he's still the same guy he was then.

In October (2 months ago), ESPN published this article:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/38633075/2024-nfl-draft-caleb-williams-usc-quarterback-strengths-rankings-comps-stats

"Before the season began, we polled NFL scouts to rank the best quarterback prospects since 2019. Williams ranked first overall, right above Lawrence -- and that was before he even played his junior season of college football. Lawrence was anointed a future No. 1 overall pick while still in high school and lived up to that potential at Clemson, but Williams' explosive plays and off-script nature better fit today's NFL.

"Williams would have been drafted first overall in both 2020 [over Burrow] and 2021 [Lawrence]," another NFL general manager said. "That's no knock on either player -- and they're both really good in the league -- but Williams is a difference-maker. Joe and Trevor are distributors. Great ones. Caleb is a game-changer."

How big of a game-changer? Of the 12-plus evaluators we polled, every single one said Williams is the best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning in 1998.

"The thing with Caleb is that he's a great passer -- on par with Burrow, Lawrence, etc. -- but he's also a great runner -- on par with Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen," said an NFC area scout with over 20 years of experience. "That's the thing people miss. He's the best prospect maybe ever at both components [combined].""

Now, that does not mean he cannot bust.  He definitely, definitely can.  But he's the same guy that NFL evaluators said these things about.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1576 on: December 10, 2023, 09:29:05 PM »
Jalen Carter with a fumble six to get the Eagles back in it.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1577 on: December 10, 2023, 09:31:53 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on December 10, 2023, 09:29:05 PM
Jalen Carter with a fumble six to get the Eagles back in it.

Tempo wanted him with the later pick they had in the first round, that they traded, despite his driving record.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1578 on: December 10, 2023, 09:32:02 PM »
I’m optimistic about Darnell Wright’s future, but imagine Jalen Carter at the 3tech on this defense.
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« Reply #1579 on: December 10, 2023, 09:33:26 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 10, 2023, 09:32:02 PM
I’m optimistic about Darnell Wright’s future, but imagine Jalen Carter at the 3tech on this defense.

The local Targets have enough problems.
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« Reply #1580 on: December 10, 2023, 09:34:14 PM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 10, 2023, 09:32:02 PM
I’m optimistic about Darnell Wright’s future, but imagine Jalen Carter at the 3tech on this defense.

Hard to know how it'd work out, and yeah I think the Wright pick was good (imagine how salty you'd be about the OL WITHOUT him) - but yeah, Jalen Carter has unreal talent, no question about it.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1581 on: December 10, 2023, 09:34:44 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 10, 2023, 09:33:26 PM
The local Targets have enough problems.

Maybe Lance Briggs needs a cruising buddy?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1582 on: December 10, 2023, 09:35:27 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 10, 2023, 09:34:14 PM
Hard to know how it'd work out, and yeah I think the Wright pick was good (imagine how salty you'd be about the OL WITHOUT him) - but yeah, Jalen Carter has unreal talent, no question about it.

I’m assuming they’d have signed a FA if they hadn’t drafted Wright.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1583 on: December 10, 2023, 09:36:45 PM »
Or maybe one of the 2nd rounders is a RT.
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« Reply #1584 on: December 10, 2023, 09:52:41 PM »
Have no clue if Hurts is having issues reading defenses, but the Eagles are definitely not running the ball like they did last year.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1585 on: December 11, 2023, 06:46:30 PM »
Chase Brown had a nifty TD. Dude looks FAST
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1586 on: December 11, 2023, 06:53:25 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 11, 2023, 06:46:30 PM
Chase Brown had a nifty TD. Dude looks FAST

We’ve known he’s fast for some time now. And yes, nice TD. Could be their feature guy next year.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1587 on: December 11, 2023, 06:55:03 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 11, 2023, 06:46:30 PM
Chase Brown had a nifty TD. Dude looks FAST

I think I saw something posted that his top speed on that TD was one of the top speeds anybody has ran all year.

Was like 23-24 MPH
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« Reply #1588 on: December 11, 2023, 07:00:17 PM »
I’m not sure that’s even possible. About the highest I think I’ve ever heard is 22ish. I will look
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1589 on: December 11, 2023, 07:01:02 PM »
22.05 pretty good
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