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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1485 on: December 10, 2023, 05:54:07 PM »
It’s hilarious that you guys think I’m serious about Stroud. My trolling skills must be elite. Unlike Justin Fields’ quarterbacking skills.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1486 on: December 10, 2023, 05:54:36 PM »
49er always seem to get into fights with their opponents
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« Reply #1487 on: December 10, 2023, 05:56:42 PM »
I appreciate you being honest, I guess, but saying you disagree with the take that the roster/playcalling hasn't been bad enough to "absolve Fields from blame for his own play" is pretty scary to consider.  I thought that was kind of a no brainer, but apparently Fields isn't even accountable for his own play.

I’m saying it’s pretty hard to be consistent when nothing else around you is. What they did to Fields last year was criminal. He was set up to fail, and he kept his head above water. He’s resilient. And he will improve. I know you disagree.
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« Reply #1488 on: December 10, 2023, 05:57:26 PM »
I’m saying it’s pretty hard to be consistent when nothing else around you is. What the did to Fields last year was criminal. He was set up to fail, and he kept his head above water. He’s resilient. And he will improve. I know you disagree.

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« Reply #1489 on: December 10, 2023, 05:57:49 PM »
DJ Metcalf tossed from the game
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« Reply #1490 on: December 10, 2023, 05:58:19 PM »
49er always seem to get into fights with their opponents

“If I didn’t have a game where a guy wanted to fight me, I wasn’t playing hard enough.” - Olin Kreutz
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« Reply #1491 on: December 10, 2023, 05:58:57 PM »
Viking Raider still at zeros. Bear broke the Viking and the Raider.
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« Reply #1492 on: December 10, 2023, 05:59:27 PM »
He's not going to sleep with you.

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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2023
« Reply #1493 on: December 10, 2023, 06:01:48 PM »
It’s hilarious that you guys think I’m serious about Stroud. My trolling skills must be elite. Unlike Justin Fields’ quarterbacking skills.

So you brought up Stroud to try to "stick it to me", I make it pretty clear why that's stupid - and ALSO acknowledge that yes, sounds like he played poorly, something you're totally unwilling to do with Fields, ever - and you're like lol jk?

Chef's kiss there, Tempo.

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« Reply #1494 on: December 10, 2023, 06:02:40 PM »
So you brought up Stroud to try to "stick it to me", I make it pretty clear why that's stupid - and ALSO acknowledge that yes, sounds like he played poorly, something you're totally unwilling to do with Fields, ever - and you're like lol jk?

Chef's kiss there, Tempo.

One would think he could have thrown for a hundred yards…
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« Reply #1495 on: December 10, 2023, 06:03:40 PM »
Josh Allen....wow
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« Reply #1496 on: December 10, 2023, 06:06:55 PM »
I’m saying it’s pretty hard to be consistent when nothing else around you is. What they did to Fields last year was criminal. He was set up to fail, and he kept his head above water. He’s resilient. And he will improve. I know you disagree.

Nope, I don't know if he will improve or not.  I do know you were saying all last year and offseason that he was going to be a lot better passing the ball this year, and outside of two games he has been the same mediocre passer.  Obviously, if the Denver/Washington games had been the norm this year I would've fully supported keeping him.  I hope you'll at least agree that those are the outliers thusfar this season.

What I've been saying is that, given the rare opportunity the Bears have this offseason, Fields has not improved enough as a passer for me to keep him.  He may improve, but unless he improves a lot - something a lot of us expected this year, that hasn't happened - he will still likely be an average QB.  He made multiple plays today that just can't happen if the Bears are going to keep him, especially from a guy who's lucky to throw for 250 yards and 2 TD in a given game.

At the end of the day, in terms of "should we pay this guy $100m", 75 rushing yards a game from my QB isn't worth it - and that's the sell on Fields right now.  He makes plays with his legs.  I need the guy to be able to make plays in the pocket, and on obvious passing downs.  Those are notable weaknesses of Fields thusfar, while notable strengths are the 75 rushing yards a game.  The value just doesn't add up.

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« Reply #1497 on: December 10, 2023, 06:07:56 PM »
One would think he could have thrown for a hundred yards…

Yep, it was a bad game from Stroud from what I can tell.  One of the very few so far.

It's not that hard to acknowledge that someone played badly without making half a dozen excuses for why that might've been, but you're literally unwilling to give Fields any blame even for his own, personal play.  If you can't look at that Chiefs game and say without qualifiers, that was a bad game from Fields - then why should anyone take you seriously at all?
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« Reply #1498 on: December 10, 2023, 06:09:28 PM »
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« Reply #1499 on: December 10, 2023, 06:11:24 PM »
Yep, it was a bad game from Stroud from what I can tell.

It's not that hard to acknowledge that someone played badly without making half a dozen excuses for why that might've been, but you're literally unwilling to give Fields any blame even for his own, personal play.  If you can't look at that Chiefs game and say without qualifiers, that was a bad game from Fields - then why should anyone take you seriously at all?

FFS. I’ve said 15x in the last few days the case to move on from Fields is a justifiable one. I’ve said multiple times he needs to do more to help himself. “Tempo, stop misrepresenting what I say!” Blah blah blah blah
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