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2023 2.0 Portal Thread

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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2023, 12:05:23 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 26, 2023, 11:52:17 AM
Message boards are a terrible place to take the pulse of a fan base.

yeah only fanatics on them
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2023, 12:05:47 PM »
It was similar to one of Weber’s last three years.

A year we made the tournament without being on the bubble isn’t similar to a year we didn’t make the tournament at all to anyone with even moderate intelligence.

Weber would not have been fired if he’d made the tournament four straight years, rather than two of five.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2023, 12:13:39 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2023, 09:56:53 AM
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Illinois is not a bad program. It was a good program under bad leadership. And again, I've never once called for his firing. But last year was bottom of the barrel "acceptable." What I would not call it is a "good year," especially considering the talent and expectations.


Sparky wanted Weber fired for results that he praises Underwood for.  That’s all you need to know.

Anyone that felt Weber should have been fired after 2012 (or earlier) should absolutely want Underwood gone after his 6 seasons too.

Sparky did say he’s be fine firing Underwood after he goes 17-15 or worse this year which he without a doubt will
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #123 on: April 26, 2023, 12:16:00 PM »
The grown ups are talking Dom.

Will be excited to see what nonsense you come up with to pretend your claim they Illinois will “without a doubt” be 17-15 or worse this year was actually right.  Hey, you can probably just re-use the nonsense you used this year right?
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #124 on: April 26, 2023, 12:17:44 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 12:05:47 PM


Weber would not have been fired if he’d made the tournament four straight years, rather than two of five.

Making the tourney is not a bar for keeping your job. The standard is higher than that.

You get the program you tolerate.


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« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2023, 12:19:43 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 12:16:00 PM
The grown ups are talking Dom.

Will be excited to see what nonsense you come up with to pretend your claim they Illinois will “without a doubt” be 17-15 or worse this year was actually right.  Hey, you can probably just re-use the nonsense you used this year right?

TrentReynolds you won’t be here anyway.  But I’m sure Nichi will report back what you are saying on Scout.

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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #126 on: April 26, 2023, 12:20:09 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 26, 2023, 12:17:44 PM
Making the tourney is not a bar for keeping your job. The standard is higher than that.

You get the program you tolerate.

At least this is tacit acknowledgement that the idea that a four year stretch where we have a tournament team every year and a four year stretch where we miss it twice arent the same.  Obviously you’re a beta pussy so you’ll never say “I was wrong” but still, nice to see you at least know you’re wrong.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2023, 12:20:53 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 26, 2023, 12:19:43 PM
TrentReynolds you won’t be here anyway.  But I’m sure Nichi will report back what you are saying on Scout.

Maybe so, because I’m an adult and don’t Welch on every bet like a fourth grader.

You’ll obviously be here no matter what happens with Shannon, because you’re an awful person who can’t keep his word or be honest about literally anything.

I’m perfectly comfortable with that setup.
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« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2023, 12:24:31 PM »
I will also say, if you don’t “tolerate” a coach taking over a trainwreck and making them a nationally relevant tournament team every year, you’re going to end up with only shittty coaches wanting to coach for you.  Which obviously would be ideal for Dom, which is why he’s pushing it, but everyone else here is a lot smarter than him.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2023, 12:30:10 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 12:20:09 PM
At least this is tacit acknowledgement that the idea that a four year stretch where we have a tournament team every year and a four year stretch where we miss it twice arent the same.  Obviously you’re a beta pussy so you’ll never say “I was wrong” but still, nice to see you at least know you’re wrong.

3 of those years are never gonna matter again bc he’s never gonna get another Kofi.

It’s just like Dale Brown with Shaq.  Post Shaq, he was mediocre.  Wonder why?

Underwood had a mediocre season with Jawun Evans

Underwood had one TERRIBLE season with Ayo.

Underwood had a mediocre season with Shannon.

And when Underwood has 0 NBA picks on his team, like the 2016-17 Illini, you get one of the worst teams of all time - which is why I am very bearish on this years team.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #130 on: April 26, 2023, 12:38:53 PM »
You’re bearish on the team for the same reason you’ve been bearish on every Illini team for 20 years - because they kicked you out for being a stalker.

I’m sure no one finds it funnier than you that you can argue openly against Illinois Basketball’s best interest for 20 years and actual idiot Illinois fans still agree with you.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #131 on: April 26, 2023, 01:04:01 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2023, 09:59:21 AM
So "stop lying," and "misrepresenting" my position.

And, Spark, don't @ him with pictures of blonde babes with guns and no dicks!
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #132 on: April 26, 2023, 01:04:28 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 26, 2023, 12:30:10 PM
3 of those years are never gonna matter again bc he’s never gonna get another Kofi.

It’s just like Dale Brown with Shaq.  Post Shaq, he was mediocre.  Wonder why?

Underwood had a mediocre season with Jawun Evans

Underwood had one TERRIBLE season with Ayo.

Underwood had a mediocre season with Shannon.

And when Underwood has 0 NBA picks on his team, like the 2016-17 Illini, you get one of the worst teams of all time - which is why I am very bearish on this years team.

Just STFU.
Still waiting for the Illinois NIT results idiot.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2023, 01:07:25 PM »
Are there really that many Illini fans calling for Underachiever's head? I tend to doubt it.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2023, 01:11:08 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 12:38:53 PM
You’re bearish on the team for the same reason you’ve been bearish on every Illini team for 20 years - because they kicked you out for being a stalker.

I’m sure no one finds it funnier than you that you can argue openly against Illinois Basketball’s best interest for 20 years and actual idiot Illinois fans still agree with you.

Nope, I’m actually a big Illinois football fan now that Bret Bielema is coach (which I recommended before he was even higher).

I will support success.  I will not support mediocrity
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