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2023 2.0 Portal Thread

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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2023, 01:08:57 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 24, 2023, 12:44:01 PM
Couple things.

#1.  Recruits don’t want to play for Underwood. See how many have left early in their careers. Def reputation could precede Underwood here.

#2.  Shannon would have been at Michigan if they had admitted him.  Illinois wasn’t his first choice.  Generally coveted portal players are going to go to their first choice otherwise they’d stay at their prior schools.

#3.  Antigua and Chin are better recruiters than Frazier/Anderson. 

It seems the only argument IL fans are trying to tell themselves is “we have a lot of NIL dollars”.  That may or may not be true.  But other schools have that as well.

I think Illinois is also hurt that the in-state talent is very low compared to prior years.  Look what Peoria used to produce. Chicago has far fewer impact players. It’s hard not to be bearish on a mediocre coach trying to gather in talent in a depleted talent state.

It's impressive, given that no recruits want to play for Underwood, that he's recruited so well - right?  Hard not to give him credit if he's gotten all these guys including the first two first team AP All Americans in program history despite nobody wanting to play for him, although I'm sure you'll twist into a pretzel trying to find a way.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2023, 01:36:00 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 24, 2023, 01:07:31 PM
That's my point.

If we got a guard from a lower-level who could lead us deep in the tourney, you wouldn't even know it.  So probably not worth worrying about.

I would know that a PG came through the portal. And we would have people here posting how great, or not great, said PG was.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2023, 01:58:05 PM »
Wonder why the talent in Illinois has been so down lately.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2023, 02:04:49 PM »
Just cyclical stuff, I assume.

Would think, given that, the fact that our coach has recruited nationally and led us to the success he has is pretty impressive, but I doubt that take has much legs on this board.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2023, 03:10:38 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 24, 2023, 01:58:05 PM
Wonder why the talent in Illinois has been so down lately.

Because people are moving out of state!
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2023, 04:02:30 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 24, 2023, 02:04:49 PM
Just cyclical stuff, I assume.

Would think, given that, the fact that our coach has recruited nationally and led us to the success he has is pretty impressive, but I doubt that take has much legs on this board.

Kofi Cockburn dragging his ass to some good seasons was very impressive for Kofi.  Much props.  And props to Antigua for finding him
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2023, 04:13:07 PM »
It's simply shocking that you'd make the dumbest possible post about it.

It's impressive Kofi even could play at this level given how sure you were that he was slow out of shape and untalented before he got on campus.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2023, 04:33:29 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 24, 2023, 04:02:30 PM
Kofi Cockburn dragging his ass to some good seasons was very impressive for Kofi.  Much props.  And props to Antigua for finding him

He found a top 50 big? Finding Giorgi on the bench of a private school was more impressive.

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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2023, 04:37:23 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2023, 04:49:09 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 24, 2023, 04:13:07 PM
It's simply shocking that you'd make the dumbest possible post about it.

It's impressive Kofi even could play at this level given how sure you were that he was slow out of shape and untalented before he got on campus.

He does not think Kofi's contributions, or the staff's coaching of Kofi, counts though.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2023, 04:50:19 PM »
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2023, 04:54:39 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 24, 2023, 03:10:38 PM
Because people are moving out of state!

Even the basketball players? Man, things really are that bad here.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2023, 05:11:54 PM »
Guerrier is going to play for all the schools in his top 3 coming out of HS.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2023, 06:05:42 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 24, 2023, 04:54:39 PM
Even the basketball players? Man, things really are that bad here.

The basketball players have been enrolling at basketball academies. It'll be interesting to see if the St. Rita trio sticks around.
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