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do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info

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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #60 on: May 08, 2023, 01:45:16 PM »
I subscribed to Sturdy back in the day. He was wrong most of the time -- recruiting if fluid. His player evals were worse, they were atrocious. I gather Price was his main source.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #61 on: May 08, 2023, 02:00:29 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 08, 2023, 12:56:33 PM
It's called a hint. Code for good news is coming.

Those guys consistently know shit before it becomes public. Unlike our resident self appointed insider, they are right most of the time. Nobody here knows what their sources are.

Lville was hinting about RayJ in March.

RayJ has barely been a secret for a long while now.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #62 on: May 08, 2023, 02:01:48 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 08, 2023, 01:39:16 PM
That there might be mutual interest there and things might not be all.thst rosey at UK.

There might be a change in NCAA rules regarding assistants -- new positions created.

Surely you understand how hinting but not saying "there might be mutual interest there" puts you in a position where you can claim to have been right, but no one can claim that you were wrong?

It's their entire strategy.  Seems like it works on you.

Half the Loyalty guys just post or hint at pay info from other sites.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2023, 02:15:53 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 08, 2023, 02:01:48 PM
Surely you understand how hinting but not saying "there might be mutual interest there" puts you in a position where you can claim to have been right, but no one can claim that you were wrong?

It's their entire strategy.  Seems like it works on you.

Half the Loyalty guys just post or hint at pay info from other sites.

Nobody knows where they get information. Maybe they get it from the same sources as Sturdy et al?

Where do pay sites get info?

The concept of premium information is bullshit. It's no different than info published in a print newspaper or magazine. Putting it behind an Internet pay wall doesn't make it more privileged.

Even journalists of all stripes use weasel words. It appears, it seems, there might be, reportedly, sources say ...
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2023, 02:38:35 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 08, 2023, 12:35:43 PM
I would, but you were banned from the board you posted it on - like every other board other than this one - again.

I haven’t posted on any boards except  Ish Lite Reborn (where I correctly predicted Bret Bielema was the answer to Illinois football before he was even hired) and this board.

And you can see I’m right.  Go thru my post history. 



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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2023, 02:44:24 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 08, 2023, 12:56:33 PM
It's called a hint. Code for good news is coming.

Those guys consistently know shit before it becomes public.

No, they don’t.

Go look up LVille’s post.  Dude said RJ Melendez was coming back.  That was flat out wrong.

Dude thought Tyger Campbell was coming.  Nope

Dude last year claimed Kofi was coming back.  Nope.

All these guys do is cling on to the best thing possible for illinois, then when it doesn’t happen, claim “recruiting is fluid”.

Go back and see if EVEN ONE POSTER, mentioned anything about Zack Perrin.  Not one mention. 

What “insider” can claim they know what’s going on when they can’t even mention a guy that does commit?

Track their losses.  These dudes know Jack shit
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2023, 02:51:28 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 08, 2023, 02:00:29 PM
RayJ has barely been a secret for a long while now.

And who gives a shit?

A mid-major 5th year grad transfer, who is from Illinois, would consider transferring to Illinois?  An IL team that currently has Scencire Harris and Justin Harmon as the starting backcourt.  Wow how shocking!

What a SCOOP!

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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2023, 02:53:56 PM »
I have said this before. About 20 years ago, I stumbled upon the Scout IB. Back then, I still multiple contacts in my circles that were close to the programs. One person had a contact in RG's office.

I posted something at the Scout freeboard that I'd heard from my sources, and was promptly censored for sharing premium information.  I have never had a scout premium account. At the time, I had no idea what premium information even meant. I'm still not sure.

I pay for the digital versions of WaPo and the failing NYT. Is what I read there premium information? 

How about the print versions?
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2023, 02:58:32 PM »
I come here for the insider information on dumpster diving, Uber driving, and human behavior. The dumpster diving info has been a bit light since Robb left. Been a bit too heavy on the human behavior though.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2023, 02:59:05 PM »
Again Nichi.

If people on Loyalty know insider recruiting info, why did nobody even mention Zach Perrin even being recruited????
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2023, 03:00:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 08, 2023, 02:00:29 PM
RayJ has barely been a secret for a long while now.

Nobody had even heard of him in March. At the time, I googled him. He had entered the NBA draft. He said if he pulled out, he would return to Toledo.

Then Indy? dropped hints about Tyger and there wasn't that  much RayJ talk.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2023, 03:16:50 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on May 08, 2023, 02:59:05 PM
Again Nichi.

If people on Loyalty know insider recruiting info, why did nobody even mention Zach Perrin even being recruited????

I recall discussions about a French big.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #72 on: May 08, 2023, 03:18:01 PM »
Underwood’s recruited 19 freshmen players.  Know how many of his own commits graduated?  2  This stat alone should get him fired: 2/19.

FR Recruits:
Mark Smith
Trent Frazier-
Damonte Williams
Greg Eboigbodin
Matic Vesel
Ayo Donsunmu
Tevian Jones
Allen Griffin
Samba Kane
Giorgi B
Anthony Higgs
Kofi Cockburn
Benjamin Verdonk
Jermaine Hamlin
Adam Miller
Andre Curbelo
Coleman Hawkins
Brandon Lieb
RJ Melendez
Luke Goode
Brandin Podzemski


21 Freshman Recruits altogether.
4 left Illinois with degrees (Williams, Frazier, Lieb, assume Goode)

4/21 😂. I’m sure parents like this stat

4/21

Fire this guy.





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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2023, 03:22:12 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 08, 2023, 03:00:45 PM
Nobody had even heard of him in March. At the time, I googled him. He had entered the NBA draft. He said if he pulled out, he would return to Toledo.

Then Indy? dropped hints about Tyger and there wasn't that  much RayJ talk.

That’s because you are illiterate.  RayJ Dennis played at Boise State. Then he went to Toledo. He’s from Oswego.  He’s nothing special which is why you hadn’t heard of him.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2023, 03:23:07 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on May 08, 2023, 02:44:24 PM
No, they don’t.

Go look up LVille’s post.  Dude said RJ Melendez was coming back.  That was flat out wrong.

Who is illiterate? He had RJ trending to returning, then undecided.

LvilleILL
"Not sure anyone knows what RJ is going to do including RJ. So no he's not staying nor is he gone yet. Time will tell"

Post in thread 'Illini Basketball' https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/post/illini-basketball.31034/post-1890400


Dain, Ty, Goode, and RJ all trending towards coming back.

Post in thread 'Illini Basketball' https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/post/illini-basketball.30954/post-1886482
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