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Re: Underwood
« Reply #360 on: August 12, 2023, 10:10:23 AM »
Quote from: Chickengeorge on August 12, 2023, 09:33:09 AM
We have one legit shooter, right?

What could go wrong?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #361 on: August 12, 2023, 10:49:42 AM »
Quote from: Chickengeorge on August 12, 2023, 09:33:09 AM
We have one legit shooter, right?

everybody can shoot, if they go in that's obviously another story
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #362 on: August 12, 2023, 12:27:07 PM »
IMO we will be better than last year.
A 5 to 8 seed range team.
Could win a game in NCAA or even get to S16 if playing well.


We will be better 3 point shooting team.
Domask and a full year of Goode will help.
Hopefully better shot selection.

More depth overall. More scoring options.

Big question mark is how the PG position works out but Rodgers/Harmon/DGL should be serviceable.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #363 on: August 12, 2023, 04:17:02 PM »
I’d be pretty excited about this unit if they’d added a legit experienced PG. As it stands now, I am not feeling real great about it.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #364 on: August 12, 2023, 09:18:52 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 12, 2023, 04:17:02 PM
I’d be pretty excited about this unit if they’d added a legit experienced PG. As it stands now, I am not feeling real great about it.

I think Harmon and/or DGL could hopefully step up if Rodgers struggles. We are ahead of last year at this position as well as having legit depth at the 2/3/4/5 and better shooting.
But you are right. If they had an experienced legit point guard we would be very good. Like top 12 -15 good.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #365 on: August 14, 2023, 09:14:36 PM »
PG is not the biggest issue with this team.

The biggest issue is whether illinois has a roster of players that are hell bent on averaging 24 3pt attempts a game...for the 2nd season in a row.


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Re: Underwood
« Reply #366 on: August 15, 2023, 02:32:49 PM »
Quote from: Gokuwearsorange/blue on August 14, 2023, 09:14:36 PM
PG is not the biggest issue with this team.

The biggest issue is whether illinois has a roster of players that are hell bent on averaging 24 3pt attempts a game...for the 2nd season in a row.

I think they will still shoot a lot of threes. Its simply part of the game for everybody now.
We took higher than D1 average, but nothing crazy.

We made 7.6 per game and took 24.7 per game. 30.8% which was not good.

We make 8.6 per game (just one more make a game)we are shooting 34.8 and nobody is complaining.
Probably win 2 or 3 more games.



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Re: Underwood
« Reply #367 on: August 15, 2023, 03:32:37 PM »
Our shot selection last year was ass.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #368 on: August 15, 2023, 04:52:49 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on August 15, 2023, 03:32:37 PM
Our shot selection last year was ass.

Absolutely.
The number of contested and step back threes were simply bad basketball.

We have had one pure shooter in recent years and that was Plummer.

Everybody else needs to take threes on open catch and shoot kick outs, offensive rebound open kick outs, open spot up delayed breaks, or someone goes under a screen on them.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #369 on: August 15, 2023, 06:12:20 PM »
Shannon needs to just focus on getting Ayos mid range game.  Hawkins needs to stop chucking 3s. Neither are any good at them. 

I think the real wild card this year wlll be Domask.  How he impacts this team i think will be what our ceiling will base itself on.

Guys  i work with that are from SIU seem to think he was the most under rated dude in the portal and easily one of southerns better players to have ever played there.

All i have seen is highlights.  Kid is smart but its Missouri valley ball.  And  not the old school kind either.  So who knows.  But he is high basketball IQ.  So is Goode and so is Rogers. 

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #370 on: August 15, 2023, 10:35:21 PM »
Agree he is the kind of player we have not had in recent years and could be a big surprise.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #371 on: August 16, 2023, 08:11:35 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on August 15, 2023, 04:52:49 PM
Absolutely.
The number of contested and step back threes were simply bad basketball.

We have had one pure shooter in recent years and that was Plummer.

Everybody else needs to take threes on open catch and shoot kick outs, offensive rebound open kick outs, open spot up delayed breaks, or someone goes under a screen on them.
Too often there appears to be a green light to launch a 3 by anyone from anywhere on the floor at any time on the shot clock.

I've suggested an 'offensive coordinator' before. Can you send in your resume with a focus on shot selection instead of running that weave, or whatever they call it, outside the 3 pt line ?

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #372 on: August 16, 2023, 09:20:08 AM »
Quote from: Mn on August 16, 2023, 08:11:35 AM
Too often there appears to be a green light to launch a 3 by anyone from anywhere on the floor at any time on the shot clock.

I've suggested an 'offensive coordinator' before. Can you send in your resume with a focus on shot selection instead of running that weave, or whatever they call it, outside the 3 pt line ?

I'll second that.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #373 on: August 16, 2023, 10:06:53 PM »
Sometimes I wonder if it's less the shot selection and more that many of the players we see brick tons of threes just aren't really good or cut out for basketball. You either have it or you don't.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #374 on: August 16, 2023, 10:15:22 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on August 16, 2023, 10:06:53 PM
Sometimes I wonder if it's less the shot selection and more that many of the players we see brick tons of threes just aren't really good or cut out for basketball. You either have it or you don't.

You'd think they would have noticed it when recruiting the players.
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