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Re: Underwood
« Reply #330 on: August 10, 2023, 07:27:08 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 09, 2023, 10:42:03 AM
Morez Johnson has a lot of climbing to do to be Illinois’ highest rated recruit.

24/7 - #46 This kid could end up being Top 15ish type of ranking imo. Either way, BU isn't going anywhere landing this big fish is the point, hyperbole or not, ranking or not, best/highest ever or not.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #331 on: August 10, 2023, 11:14:51 AM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on August 10, 2023, 07:27:08 AM
24/7 - #46 This kid could end up being Top 15ish type of ranking imo. Either way, BU isn't going anywhere landing this big fish is the point, hyperbole or not, ranking or not, best/highest ever or not.

We miss the tourney Underwood is gone.
We make the tourney and lose first round he is probably gone.
We lose badly first round-he is definitely gone.

We win one, lose one he stays another year unless it is a blowout and there is insurrection by the players taking place.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #332 on: August 10, 2023, 11:33:40 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on August 10, 2023, 11:14:51 AM
We miss the tourney Underwood is gone.
We make the tourney and lose first round he is probably gone.
We lose badly first round-he is definitely gone.

We win one, lose one he stays another year unless it is a blowout and there is insurrection by the players taking place.

I second this.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #333 on: August 10, 2023, 11:35:38 AM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on August 10, 2023, 07:27:08 AM
24/7 - #46 This kid could end up being Top 15ish type of ranking imo. Either way, BU isn't going anywhere landing this big fish is the point, hyperbole or not, ranking or not, best/highest ever or not.

I believe Nick Anderson was a top 5 recruit. I think Derek Harper may have been as well.
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« Reply #334 on: August 10, 2023, 11:37:26 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 10, 2023, 11:35:38 AM
I believe Nick Anderson was a top 5 recruit. I think Derek Harper may have been as well.

Richmond and Liberty were much higher than Johnson as well.

Liberty was the #1 recruit in the nation I believe.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #335 on: August 10, 2023, 11:40:21 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on August 10, 2023, 11:37:26 AM
Richmond and Liberty were much higher than Johnson as well.

Liberty was the #1 recruit in the nation I believe.

Yeah, I forgot about Liberty even.
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« Reply #336 on: August 10, 2023, 11:41:16 AM »
Lowell Hamilton was #1 his junior year of HS, not sure where he finished up.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #337 on: August 10, 2023, 12:38:42 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on August 10, 2023, 11:14:51 AM
We miss the tourney Underwood is gone.
We make the tourney and lose first round he is probably gone.
We lose badly first round-he is definitely gone.

We win one, lose one he stays another year unless it is a blowout and there is insurrection by the players taking place.

Unless it’s just some insane disaster of a season or there’s a scandal, I highly doubt Underwood goes anywhere.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #338 on: August 10, 2023, 12:59:35 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 10, 2023, 12:38:42 PM
Unless it’s just some insane disaster of a season or there’s a scandal, I highly doubt Underwood goes anywhere.

Well, this a a tourney team easily.
Would guess 5-8 seed.
Missing would meet the criteria of disaster.
If we stagger into tourney as a 10 seed and get bounced badly right away he is gone.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #339 on: August 10, 2023, 07:48:23 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 10, 2023, 11:41:16 AM
Lowell Hamilton was #1 his junior year of HS, not sure where he finished up.

Yes # 1 in Illinois, that is correct. Johnson is the same #1 in the state. Johnson is the much better prospect imo. Hamilton lost to Scott Meents, Marty Simmons, and Mt Pulaski team with a 1000 pt scorer before beating Thad Matta to state. Source is Wikipedia.

Johnson is currently national 39.

Ayo was 30
Clark was 34
Miller was 35
No other big touches the ranking, Rivals started early mid 2000's 24/7 shows back to 1999, and ESPN shows to 2003. So in reality players like Hamilton who knows. McD players were the thin then, and he was chosen for that team. Johnson TBD?

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #340 on: August 10, 2023, 07:50:37 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on August 10, 2023, 11:37:26 AM
Richmond and Liberty were much higher than Johnson as well.

Liberty was the #1 recruit in the nation I believe.

Yes he was by SI, Parade All American, rankings as we know them now, didn't exist. But #1 is #1 correct.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #341 on: August 10, 2023, 09:26:24 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on August 10, 2023, 07:48:23 PM
Yes # 1 in Illinois, that is correct. Johnson is the same #1 in the state. Johnson is the much better prospect imo. Hamilton lost to Scott Meents, Marty Simmons, and Mt Pulaski team with a 1000 pt scorer before beating Thad Matta to state. Source is Wikipedia.

Johnson is currently national 39.

Ayo was 30
Clark was 34
Miller was 35
No other big touches the ranking, Rivals started early mid 2000's 24/7 shows back to 1999, and ESPN shows to 2003. So in reality players like Hamilton who knows. McD players were the thin then, and he was chosen for that team. Johnson TBD?

Hamilton was #1 in the country. I don’t think he finished that high. Top 5-10ish I believe.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #342 on: August 10, 2023, 09:29:55 PM »
Jereme Richmond is 31 and playing in Argentina for the record. Wow 31.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #343 on: August 11, 2023, 02:05:56 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 10, 2023, 09:29:55 PM
Jereme Richmond is 31 and playing in Argentina for the record. Wow 31.

He can still ball. He always could and had so much talent but never matured quick enough. The team he had around him (outside of basketball) was bad news and helped ruin him. He had so much potential.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #344 on: August 11, 2023, 06:55:23 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on August 11, 2023, 02:05:56 AM
He can still ball. He always could and had so much talent but never matured quick enough. The team he had around him (outside of basketball) was bad news and helped ruin him. He had so much potential.

Wasn't he "bad news" before he even got to Illinois? That's my recollection.
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