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Re: Underwood
« Reply #270 on: June 02, 2023, 05:09:48 PM »
What I find particularly funny about it is, surely there's a school where people were making the same arguments you were and turned out right instead of wrong, isn't there?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #271 on: June 02, 2023, 05:13:06 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 05:09:48 PM
What I find particularly funny about it is, surely there's a school where people were making the same arguments you were and turned out right instead of wrong, isn't there?

You still do not get the point and why it was raised.

The funny part is you actually think you are intelligent, when you are not. "Mediocre white guy" appears to be a stretch.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #272 on: June 02, 2023, 05:14:32 PM »
Tomorrow maybe I'll just let you make my arguments - I literally couldn't have argued against your point and short-sighted takes about our basketball program better than your article did.

A hilarious shot in the foot moment there, and then two hours of flailing trying to deflect away from it.

Just a chef's kiss.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #273 on: June 02, 2023, 05:23:58 PM »
All my tests had me in the 97th percentile. I found that kind of frightening.

Those were, of course, pre-senility. I do still qualify for Mensa if I bothered to track down my old ACT score.

Way back then I was invited to be in Who's Who Among American High School Students, but they wanted money.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #274 on: June 02, 2023, 05:29:31 PM »
Ermagherd, I go for a walk and 4 more pages…who needs Dom?! Lol
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #275 on: June 02, 2023, 05:32:06 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 04:01:56 PM
You say that, but the bigotry of low expectations is far too strong in this fanbase. Too many people settling for B1G Regular Season titles. Meanwhile, over at UCONN the fans are shooting for NCAA Championships. Makes me want to puke


I don’t think it’s a matter of “settling.” Just knowing that conference titles aren’t meaningless just because you don’t have a natty. What if we make 3 S16s in a row? You gonna be satisfied with that? I doubt it.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #276 on: June 02, 2023, 05:33:41 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 04:04:11 PM
Is all it takes for a college coach's seat to be hot is for idiot fans to say "fire him!"?  Underwood's been on the hot seat for years if that's the case.

I have never heard anyone say someone's "seat is getting hot" without meaning "in the eyes of the person who could fire him".  And the AD openly mocked the idea in the article.  It's pretty clear from that article that his seat was not remotely hot at the time it was written.

And at it's core, the fact that that guy won the title less than a year later is not really compelling evidence that the "fire him" people were making a reasonable argument, is it?

One thing PAMan has right is that an AD is almost never going to come out and say “Yeah, his seat is hot.” But you are correct on the larger point.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #277 on: June 02, 2023, 05:35:07 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 02, 2023, 05:32:06 PM
I don’t think it’s a matter of “settling.” Just knowing that conference titles aren’t meaningless just because you don’t have a natty. What if we make 3 S16s in a row? You gonna be satisfied with that? I doubt it.

He's already started the "what if he's Kevin Ollie?" thing with Hurley to avoid acknowledging how short sighted it'd have been to fire him, I think it's a fair guess that that's what he'd say if Underwood won a national title this year.  Sure he got one, but what if he only gets one?

As I've gotten older I've come to find that a weirdly large number of people watch sports specifically to have something to bitch about.  There's never a point where they're happy, the draw is that they can complain.  That's admittedly a mindset that's totally foreign to me.  I complain about shit, but I don't enjoy it as much when I have a lot to complain about.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #278 on: June 02, 2023, 05:36:00 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 04:14:32 PM
Tempo wins The HQ2 today because he can comprehend a rather simple point. And his questions and comments today have been tight and focused.

Says the guy who couldn’t “comprehend” Spark’s question about how many programs make the S16 every year lol

Thanks for the props, though!
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #279 on: June 02, 2023, 05:39:18 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 02, 2023, 05:32:06 PM
I don’t think it’s a matter of “settling.” Just knowing that conference titles aren’t meaningless just because you don’t have a natty. What if we make 3 S16s in a row? You gonna be satisfied with that? I doubt it.

It would be called a start.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #280 on: June 02, 2023, 05:39:33 PM »
Looks like Custard needs to start a Spark vs PAMan forum.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #281 on: June 02, 2023, 05:40:18 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 02, 2023, 05:36:00 PM
Says the guy who couldn’t “comprehend” Spark’s question about how many programs make the S16 every year lol

Thanks for the props, though!

Yes, I could not "comprehend" it. LOL.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #282 on: June 02, 2023, 05:40:58 PM »
I'm not stupid, I'm just a troll!
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #283 on: June 02, 2023, 05:42:23 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 05:14:32 PM
Tomorrow maybe I'll just let you make my arguments - I literally couldn't have argued against your point and short-sighted takes about our basketball program better than your article did.

A hilarious shot in the foot moment there, and then two hours of flailing trying to deflect away from it.

Just a chef's kiss.

At least they would not be all over the place to distract from the points actually being made. Well, that admittedly  depends on how much I have to drink.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #284 on: June 02, 2023, 05:42:41 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 04:37:37 PM
I'm actually curious, what does it mean to you for someone's seat to be hot?

To me, that means that the person who could fire them is considering it.  It doesn't mean that some fans of the school somewhere are saying the coach should be fired - someone's seat "heating up" has always meant that the AD or GM or whoever could fire a guy is considering or headed towards doing it.

That was pretty clearly not the case at UConn, based on the article you posted.  And I'm sure they're glad it wasn't right now.

I’d classify it as simply as people are feeling itchy or uncertain. Of course, the AD is going to be the one with the most say in who has a hot seat, but they’ll never come out and say someone’s seat is hot. I can’t think of any examples, anyway. Does Eberflus have a hot seat this year? I’d say not. But if he goes 5-12 could be gone the following Monday.
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