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Re: Underwood
« Reply #255 on: June 02, 2023, 04:56:48 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 02, 2023, 01:49:08 PM
In capable hands Illinois is a top 10-15 program. Call that what you want.

Someone elsewhere argued that deep runs in the tournament are the norm for the program, barring sanctions or incompetent leadership.

In the last 70 years, we have won two or more games in the tournament 7 times. That is a lot getting busted or incompetence.

1983-84 2 EE
1984-85 2 S16
1988-89 4 FF

2000-01 3 EE
2001-02 2 S16

2003-04 2 S16
2004-05 5 CG
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #256 on: June 02, 2023, 04:56:59 PM »
What should he have done?  Ignored it?  Silent treatment for the reporter who asked?

Sounds like he handled it with the amount of seriousness he thought the idea deserved - not much. And turns out that yes, those fans were being short sighted and if they had gotten their way likely would’ve cost UConn a national title.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #257 on: June 02, 2023, 04:57:49 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 04:53:33 PM
It makes sense that you would continue avoiding the question.  Same thing you did last time.

We both know the answer though.  Those fans who were making the same arguments you are look very very dumb less than one year later.  It’s an amazing argument for not making silly short sighted decisions based on a single elimination tournament, for sure.

I did answer it. Who knows? He could be Kevin Ollie.

Yet, in fact, the reverse could be true. A single elimination tournament could have saved his job.  We do not know.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #258 on: June 02, 2023, 04:59:40 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
I did answer it. Who knows? He could be Kevin Ollie.

Yet, in fact, the reverse could be true. A single elimination tournament could have saved his job.  We do not know.

Hahaha so the national title wasn’t enough?

Maybe those fans who wanted him fired a year ago were really right?

My god man do you even read this stupid shit you’re typing?

If you read that article about how a year ago some UConn fans wanted Hurley fired and think “and those people were being reasonable”, I literally don’t even know what to say.  Those people look like absolute clowns right now.  If they had gotten their way it would’ve cost them a national title.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #259 on: June 02, 2023, 04:59:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 04:56:59 PM
What should he have done?  Ignored it?  Silent treatment for the reporter who asked?

Sounds like he handled it with the amount of seriousness he thought the idea deserved - not much. And turns out that yes, those fans were being short sighted and if they had gotten their way likely would’ve cost UConn a national title.

Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
No, he answered it as an AD would and should regardless of the truth. That you are even trumpeting this point is patently ludicrous.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #260 on: June 02, 2023, 05:01:15 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 04:59:45 PM


Yes, he was obviously correct to laugh at the idea that Hurley would be on the hot seat.

I fail to see how that supports the notion that you’re being reasonable by parroting the same shit those fans who look silly now were though.  I definitely see how it supports the opposite notion.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #261 on: June 02, 2023, 05:01:37 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 04:59:40 PM
Hahaha so the national title wasn’t enough?

Maybe those fans who wanted him fired a year ago were really right?

My god man do you even read this stupid shit you’re typing?

If you read that article about how a year ago some UConn fans wanted Hurley fired and think “and those people were being reasonable”, I literally don’t even know what to say.  Those people look like absolute clowns right now.

You do not comprehend that it is possible that winning the tournament saved his job? After all, there were reporters asking if his job was in jeopardy pre-season.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #262 on: June 02, 2023, 05:03:26 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 05:01:37 PM
You do not comprehend that it is possible that winning the tournament saved his job? After all, there were reporters asking if his job was in jeopardy pre-season.

Yes, and it was clear what the AD thought of the notion too.

The AD was correct.  It would’ve been really silly to capitulate to the fans wanting him fired.  It would’ve cost them a national title.

You have really successfully made an argument that those fans were short sighted and silly, but you’re trying to make the opposite argument somehow with the same evidence.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #263 on: June 02, 2023, 05:03:49 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 05:01:15 PM
Yes, he was obviously correct to laugh at the idea that Hurley would be on the hot seat.

I fail to see how that supports the notion that you’re being reasonable by parroting the same shit those fans who look silly now were though.  I definitely see how it supports the opposite notion.

You still do not get the point. That you have been exposed for the dullard that you are is at least something that was gained from today's conversation. Looking like the IQ Test does not mean much in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #264 on: June 02, 2023, 05:04:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:11:21 PM
I had not even thought about UCONN until using them to show what sad sacks you guys are who are ecstatic with Regular Season Titles and how The Tournament is "fickle."

Good fucking thing Ozzie Guillen and Joe Maddon were not just happy winning a division since playoff baseball can be so "fickle." How pathetic you sound.

I quit following baseball. When did the playoffs and world series go to single elimination?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #265 on: June 02, 2023, 05:05:50 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 05:03:26 PM
Yes, and it was clear what the AD thought of the notion too.

The AD was correct.  It would’ve been really silly to capitulate to the fans wanting him fired.  It would’ve cost them a national title.

You have really successfully made an argument that those fans were short sighted and silly, but you’re trying to make the opposite argument somehow with the same evidence.

And yet again establishing that you are pivoting once the point was made. Again, Tempo-esque level arguing on your part. Congrats.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #266 on: June 02, 2023, 05:06:17 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 02, 2023, 05:04:02 PM
I quit following baseball. When did the playoffs and world series go to single elimination?

LOL.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #267 on: June 02, 2023, 05:06:31 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 05:03:49 PM
You still do not get the point. That you have been exposed for the dullard that you are is at least something that was gained from today's conversation. Looking like the IQ Test does not mean much in the grand scheme of things.

You've sure managed to convince me that yes, UConn also has short-sighted fans like we do, and they very quickly were made to look silly.  That if UConn would've given into the people making the same arguments you are, it would've cost them a national title.

Good work!
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #268 on: June 02, 2023, 05:07:16 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 05:05:50 PM
And yet again establishing that you are pivoting once the point was made. Again, Tempo-esque level arguing on your part. Congrats.

Tempo pretty consistently makes your arguments look really, really silly here so - yes, I guess so.

Admittedly, it didn't take too much work - I only had to read the article you posted.  You did most of the work here.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #269 on: June 02, 2023, 05:08:46 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 05:06:31 PM
You've sure managed to convince me that yes, UConn also has short-sighted fans like we do, and they very quickly were made to look silly.  That if UConn would've given into the people making the same arguments you are, it would've cost them a national title.

Good work!

Again, missing the point. You have proven the IQ Test to be worthless. Job well done.
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