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Re: Underwood
« Reply #135 on: June 02, 2023, 02:00:24 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 01:59:36 PM
16 programs make the S16 every year.

I kind of figured you'd avoid the question, yeah.

If you're interested, two programs have been to 4 straight or more and 345 teams are on a 1 or 0 streak.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #136 on: June 02, 2023, 02:01:33 PM »
Lack of NCAA tourney success and last year's basketball-that-made-the-eyes-bleed have to be taken into account, IMO.

But largely, I agree with Spark in the overall picture since Underwood has been here. A big upgrade from where he started.

It is time to have some NCAA success or his seat should be getting at least a little bit warm.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #137 on: June 02, 2023, 02:02:23 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 01:54:07 PM
It's not unreasonable to think Illinois can be a top-10 or -15 program, what's unreasonable is making your determination exclusively on the single elimination tournament.

I bet there aren't 15 major conference teams who have been notably better than us the last four years, but could be wrong.  We're certainly closer to that right now than we've been since Dee Brown graduated.

Ask UCONN fans if they give a shit about Big East Regular Season titles or NCAA Championships. We know the answer. Why is it unreasonable for Illini fans to focus on winning NCAA Championships?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #138 on: June 02, 2023, 02:02:55 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 02:00:24 PM
I kind of figured you'd avoid the question, yeah.

If you're interested, two programs have been to 4 straight or more and 345 teams are on a 1 or 0 streak.

Maybe you should have worded the question in a different manner?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #139 on: June 02, 2023, 02:02:58 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:02:23 PM
Ask UCONN fans if they give a shit about Big East Regular Season titles or NCAA Championships. We know the answer. Why is it unreasonable for Illini fans to focus on winning NCAA Championships?

You'd have been screaming from the mountaintops that Dan Hurley sucked and should be fired before last season. 

My guess is UConn fans like when they win their league, as do 99.9% of fans everywhere.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #140 on: June 02, 2023, 02:03:15 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:02:55 PM
Maybe you should have worded the question in a different manner?

I assumed you were intelligent enough to recognize what I meant.  My mistake, I guess..
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #141 on: June 02, 2023, 02:04:54 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 01:59:39 PM
Coming into this season Dan Hurley had been at UConn for four years, had a 73-47 (40-32) record with two tournament appearances and two first round losses to lower seeds.  You'd have wanted him fired and had a snarky nickname for him and everything.

And his seat was getting hot, wasn't it?

https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn-mens-basketball/article/UConn-men-s-basketball-Dan-Hurley-NCAA-Tournament-17499577.php
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #142 on: June 02, 2023, 02:06:38 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:04:54 PM
And his seat was getting hot, wasn't it?

https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn-mens-basketball/article/UConn-men-s-basketball-Dan-Hurley-NCAA-Tournament-17499577.php

Hahaha, he had had considerably less success than Underwood has.  Looks like in your article the AD mocked the idea too.

""I would say, 'Or what?'," UConn athletic director David Benedict asked, rhetorically, with his trademark wry smile. "If we don't win an NCAA tournament game ...?"

Dan Hurley gets fired? Hurley is on the hot seat? No, of course not. Barring some completely unforeseen circumstances, neither scenario will be anywhere near in play. And likely not for several years to come, either."

You'd have been losing your mind about how much he sucked and then he won the title, because the single elimination tournament is fickle and relying exclusively on the results of it to judge coaches and programs is monumentally stupid.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #143 on: June 02, 2023, 02:06:59 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 02:03:15 PM
I assumed you were intelligent enough to recognize what I meant.  My mistake, I guess..

Very Tempo-esque.  Don't blame me because you cannot phrase your question properly.  I certainly do not assume the level of your intelligence at this point.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #144 on: June 02, 2023, 02:08:15 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:06:59 PM
Very Tempo-esque.  Don't blame me because you cannot phrase your question properly.  I certainly do not assume the level of your intelligence at this point.

I mean, it was a pretty simple question.  You knew what I meant but decided to avoid the question and troll instead, because the answer to the question kind of undercuts your whole stupid argument.

If you want to claim you just weren't smart enough to recognize what I meant when I asked "how many programs go to the S16 every year?" that's fine, but it's kind of funny to claim that as a win.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #145 on: June 02, 2023, 02:11:21 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 02:06:38 PM
Hahaha, he had had considerably less success than Underwood has.  Looks like in your article the AD mocked the idea too.

You'd have been losing your mind about how much he sucked and then he won the title, because the single elimination tournament is fickle and relying exclusively on the results of it to judge coaches and programs is monumentally stupid.

I had not even thought about UCONN until using them to show what sad sacks you guys are who are ecstatic with Regular Season Titles and how The Tournament is "fickle."

Good fucking thing Ozzie Guillen and Joe Maddon were not just happy winning a division since playoff baseball can be so "fickle." How pathetic you sound.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #146 on: June 02, 2023, 02:12:43 PM »
Another quote from your article:

""We had a type of season (in 2021-22) that earned us a five-seed in the NCAA tournament, which was the best seed we've had here in a long time," Hurley noted. "Two things can be true: I think we had a successful year until that point, (and) I've got to find a way to get the program over the hump, to go from contending to a championship team in our league."

Somebody should tell him what a fucking loser he is for this one.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #147 on: June 02, 2023, 02:13:02 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 02, 2023, 02:08:15 PM
I mean, it was a pretty simple question.  You knew what I meant but decided to avoid the question and troll instead, because the answer to the question kind of undercuts your whole stupid argument.

If you want to claim you just weren't smart enough to recognize what I meant when I asked "how many programs go to the S16 every year?" that's fine, but it's kind of funny to claim that as a win.

No, I do not know what you mean at this point. Given it makes no sense being so happy about B1G Regular Season titles instead of NCAA Championships.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #148 on: June 02, 2023, 02:13:14 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:11:21 PM
I had not even thought about UCONN until using them to show what sad sacks you guys are who are ecstatic with Regular Season Titles and how The Tournament is "fickle."

Good fucking thing Ozzie Guillen and Joe Maddon were not just happy winning a division since playoff baseball can be so "fickle." How pathetic you sound.

And to be clear - playoff baseball is a single elimination situation?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #149 on: June 02, 2023, 02:13:34 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:13:02 PM
No, I do not know what you mean at this point. Given it makes no sense being so happy about B1G Regular Season titles instead of NCAA Championships.

Bragging that you're not smart enough to understand a simple question is a new peak for you bud.  Great work.

I'm not sure what you mean by being happy about conference titles "instead of" NCAA titles.  That doesn't make any sense, it's not an either/or proposition in any way.  In fact, winning a B1G title means you're likely to get a good seed and have a better chance to win an NCAA title.
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