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Re: Underwood
« Reply #375 on: August 17, 2023, 06:46:27 AM »
How many times last season did I hear from the tv announcers after someone bricked a 3 ' you can get that shot at any time in the shot clock ' vs how many times did the coaching staff hear it ?

More than 3-5 to zero.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #376 on: August 17, 2023, 08:37:56 AM »
Quote from: Mn on August 17, 2023, 06:46:27 AM
How many times last season did I hear from the tv announcers after someone bricked a 3 ' you can get that shot at any time in the shot clock ' vs how many times did the coaching staff hear it ?

More than 3-5 to zero.

Remember the michigan game were Mayer just kept jacking up 3s at end of game

Went 0 for 3 from 3 last 1:15 end of game

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #377 on: August 17, 2023, 11:35:52 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on August 16, 2023, 10:06:53 PM
Sometimes I wonder if it's less the shot selection and more that many of the players we see brick tons of threes just aren't really good or cut out for basketball. You either have it or you don't.


This staff seems to get a lot of guys with a lack of ball skills and average shooters at best, but have some plus athlete or plus physical strength or size or length asset.
We hear a lot of statements about player X being "a jump shot away" from being a lottery pick.

I call bullshit.

Give me decent athletes with ball skills who can shoot all day.

Defense keeps you in games without question but you have to be able to score.

If you haven't watched the Curry documentary it is a good movie.
Pure shooter through years of hard work and became stronger and is decent athlete. Incredible work ethic.
Ayo will be a career bench guy unless he learns how to shoot.
Kofi will never sniff the league. Can't shoot.

The guy I like on this roster is DGL. He is a bucket. Will be interesting to see how he develops.

Will take guys like him over a Harris, Rodgers, Epps, Clark everytime.




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Re: Underwood
« Reply #378 on: August 18, 2023, 08:44:41 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on August 17, 2023, 11:35:52 PM

This staff seems to get a lot of guys with a lack of ball skills and average shooters at best, but have some plus athlete or plus physical strength or size or length asset.
We hear a lot of statements about player X being "a jump shot away" from being a lottery pick.

I call bullshit.

Give me decent athletes with ball skills who can shoot all day.

Defense keeps you in games without question but you have to be able to score.

If you haven't watched the Curry documentary it is a good movie.
Pure shooter through years of hard work and became stronger and is decent athlete. Incredible work ethic.
Ayo will be a career bench guy unless he learns how to shoot.
Kofi will never sniff the league. Can't shoot.

The guy I like on this roster is DGL. He is a bucket. Will be interesting to see how he develops.

Will take guys like him over a Harris, Rodgers, Epps, Clark everytime.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #379 on: August 18, 2023, 10:19:19 AM »
Epps was a pretty highly regarded scorer, but something changed about halfway through his freshman year, the rest of the guys... yeah...
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #380 on: August 18, 2023, 01:22:35 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 18, 2023, 10:19:19 AM
Epps was a pretty highly regarded scorer, but something changed about halfway through his freshman year, the rest of the guys... yeah...

Wait till Epps becomes a stud at Georgetown....
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #381 on: August 18, 2023, 03:22:54 PM »
Quote from: BillSelf on August 18, 2023, 01:22:35 PM
Wait till Epps becomes a stud at Georgetown....

Wait till Epps fucks your mom.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #382 on: August 18, 2023, 09:57:31 PM »
Niccolo Moretti probably has the best combination of shooting and play making skills. Has a nice stroke. Will make throws. Sees the floor.
 Brad says he is an elite passer and elite at the pnr. Is working on defense. Indy says he's not B1G material.

DGL is just a stud athlete with bb skills.

Brad wants to get into get into transition offense by extending the defense and forcing turnovers. Rodgers, Harris, Harmon can put a lot of pressure on the ball.

Shannon can get out in transition. Goode and Domask can spot up. Hawkins or Guerrier can trail.

A lot of experience and depth inside with Guerrier, Hawkins, Dainja, and Hansberry. Amani is going to be good.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #383 on: August 18, 2023, 11:18:04 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 18, 2023, 09:57:31 PM

Brad wants to get into get into transition offense by extending the defense and forcing turnovers. Rodgers, Harris, Harmon can put a lot of pressure on the ball.

Haven't we seen this movie before?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #384 on: August 19, 2023, 12:04:54 AM »
Quote from: BillSelf on August 18, 2023, 01:22:35 PM
Wait till Epps becomes a stud at Georgetown....

Epps has a scorer mindset  Needs a lot of shots. Not a great shooter, has subpar mechanics, but had unique ability to get a shot off in the lane.
Will be productive is my guess.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #385 on: August 19, 2023, 12:15:51 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 18, 2023, 09:57:31 PM
Niccolo Moretti probably has the best combination of shooting and play making skills. Has a nice stroke. Will make throws. Sees the floor.
 Brad says he is an elite passer and elite at the pnr. Is working on defense. Indy says he's not B1G material.

DGL is just a stud athlete with bb skills.

Brad wants to get into get into transition offense by extending the defense and forcing turnovers. Rodgers, Harris, Harmon can put a lot of pressure on the ball.

Shannon can get out in transition. Goode and Domask can spot up. Hawkins or Guerrier can trail.

A lot of experience and depth inside with Guerrier, Hawkins, Dainja, and Hansberry. Amani is going to be good.

If Moretti is such an elite passer and elite at pnr and can shoot then he should be playing a lot of minutes as primary backup even if he is average at D. I don't think that will be the case.
It sounds like DGL and Harmon are primary PG backups to the Rodgers experiment.
Have no idea what they are going to do with Harris.
He can't play point and Harmon is much better option at 2 as a backup.

Also can't play Harris and Rodgers at same time as neither can shoot.

I think staff have their work cut out for them. A lot of guys with some strengths and also gaps in their games.

I don't see them extending the D much. Not athletic enough really overall and no rim protection.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #386 on: August 19, 2023, 03:09:44 PM »
Loyalty insiders may be right. Moretti's defense may be so bad, he'll never play. Same ones who said Podz couldn't defend his own shadow.
 
I could see him  and Harris as a late game offense / defense tag team.

If a two deep front line with 7-6, 7-1, 6-10, and 7-2 wingspans does not provide any rim protection; Brad should be yelling.

They've got a pretty good blend of athletes and skill guys. If I am deciding, I use pack line as the basic defense. Then ramp up pressure occasionally.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #387 on: August 19, 2023, 03:44:20 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 19, 2023, 03:09:44 PM
Loyalty insiders may be right. Moretti's defense may be so bad, he'll never play. Same ones who said Podz couldn't defend his own shadow.
 
I could see him  and Harris as a late game offense / defense tag team.

If a two deep front line with 7-6, 7-1, 6-10, and 7-2 wingspans does not provide any rim protection; Brad should be yelling.

They've got a pretty good blend of athletes and skill guys. If I am deciding, I use pack line as the basic defense. Then ramp up pressure occasionally.

Agree on the standard pack line. Please improve the drop coverage which has been terrible for years.
Extend D in halfcourt on top when certain guys who can guard on ball and trap and recover are out there (Harris,maybe Harmon, or Rodgers, or DGL, and TSJ).
They do have a lot of decent pieces, but putting them together in the right combinations and matchups will be a real challenge.

UW and any of his staffs have not been great at X and O's.

This team could be Top 20 or end up Top 35 again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #388 on: August 21, 2023, 08:21:38 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on August 19, 2023, 12:15:51 AM
I think staff have their work cut out for them. A lot of guys with some strengths and also gaps in their games.
Very reasonable concern that we have a bunch of parts that don't go together. We appear to have 2 on-paper 1s, neither of whom can play the 1 at both ends, which translates to a lot of time with guys out of their natural positions particularly with foul trouble.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #389 on: August 21, 2023, 10:08:50 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on August 21, 2023, 08:21:38 AM
Very reasonable concern that we have a bunch of parts that don't go together. We appear to have 2 on-paper 1s, neither of whom can play the 1 at both ends, which translates to a lot of time with guys out of their natural positions particularly with foul trouble.

Yeah, PG is going to be a work in progress.
Nobody knows WTF to expect and is full of shit if they think they do.
Anxious to see how we look vs Kansas in that exhibition scrimmage.

This team has a higher ceiling than last year but that will take a very good coaching and culture job by the staff to get and keep everyone on same page.
High risk for a few guys to be butthurt over minutes and a long period of figuring out what rotations actually work.





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