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2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD

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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #525 on: April 18, 2023, 02:57:47 PM »
Quote from: FaninCa on April 18, 2023, 01:09:02 PM
Squeaky once claimed he was making $200k annually.  Perhaps he meant $200k lifetime earnings though?

I think he meant 200k yen.
That is $1500 USD.
He lost it all in the Chinese stock market. Smart guy.

He is a brokeass pedophile loser living in a flop house.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #526 on: April 18, 2023, 03:27:01 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 18, 2023, 12:16:04 PM
"If you ignore most of the years, Hurley's record is actually better than Underwood's."

Perfect.

I love the idea that you think Hurley is a good coach though, that's fucking hilarious.

For all the anger about Underwood only having won 4 tournament games in his career, he's got 4 more tournament wins than Bobby Hurley.

He’s not great,but he’s far better than Underwood.

Before Bobby Hurley got to ASU, they had made the NCAA tourney 3 times in over 20 years. He’s made it 3 times in 9 years so he’s clearly upgraded them.

ASU is a 2nd rate school in their own state.  They don’t have near the resources that Illinois has.

Brad Underwood would have been fired by now without Kofi.  He’s never gonna get another Kofi, so it’s inevitable he will be fired soon.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #527 on: April 18, 2023, 05:13:19 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 18, 2023, 03:27:01 PM
He’s not great,but he’s far better than Underwood.

Before Bobby Hurley got to ASU, they had made the NCAA tourney 3 times in over 20 years. He’s made it 3 times in 9 years so he’s clearly upgraded them.

ASU is a 2nd rate school in their own state.  They don’t have near the resources that Illinois has.

Brad Underwood would have been fired by now without Kofi.  He’s never gonna get another Kofi, so it’s inevitable he will be fired soon.

Yes definitely, as long as you ignore the actual results, he's been a lot better than Underwood.

Hell, if you ignore the 223 games Underwood's won in his career, he's 0-106.  Hurley's been a lot better than that.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #528 on: April 18, 2023, 05:31:09 PM »
Bobby Hurley, whole career:

10 years.  183-133 (.579), 96-87 (.525).  Four tournament appearances, 0 wins.

Brad Underwood without Kofi, for some fucking idiotic reason:

7 years.  155-79 (.662), 84-53 (.626).  Five tournament appearances, 2 wins not counting a First Four win.

So who's the next Underwood recruit I should remove from his results to make things more fair?
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #529 on: April 18, 2023, 05:41:05 PM »
How about this one:

Brad Underwood, at a high-major, without Kofi:

4 years, 66-65 (.504), 31-35 (.469), two tournament appearances, no wins.

Bobby Hurley at a high major regardless of roster:

141-113 (.555), 71-76 (.483), three tournament appearances, no wins.

So there you go, that's what you need to make Hurley and Underwood comparable.  Just remove most of the games Underwood's ever coached, including all of the best seasons, and they're pretty close.  I assume you don't want me to do Hurley's record without Remy.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #530 on: April 18, 2023, 05:52:09 PM »
Paying devil’s advocate here; Hurley would have made the tourney in ‘20. And hasn’t had any seasons vacated. Honestly, I’d say there’s probably not a big difference between the two. Both capable D1 coaches. I’d be willing to bet Hurley is better at Xs and Os though.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #531 on: April 18, 2023, 06:10:49 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 18, 2023, 05:31:09 PM
Bobby Hurley, whole career:

10 years.  183-133 (.579), 96-87 (.525).  Four tournament appearances, 0 wins.

Brad Underwood without Kofi, for some fucking idiotic reason:

7 years.  155-79 (.662), 84-53 (.626).  Five tournament appearances, 2 wins not counting a First Four win.

So who's the next Underwood recruit I should remove from his results to make things more fair?

lol “whole career”.  Brad didn’t build anything at SFA.  He inherited a great program.

As you yourself showed, the major conference record between the 2 is damning to Underwood. He’s a big nothing without Kofi.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #532 on: April 18, 2023, 06:15:48 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 18, 2023, 05:41:05 PM


Brad Underwood, at a high-major, without Kofi:

4 years, 66-65 (.504), 31-35 (.469), two tournament appearances, no wins.


He’s 31-45.  Are you as bad at math as you are at English?

OSU- 9-9
IL- 4–14
IL- 7-13
IL- 11-9

31-45.  .407 winning %

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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #533 on: April 18, 2023, 06:24:02 PM »
Another comparison.

John Groce as high major conf coach:
37-53 (.411)

Brad Underwood as high major conf coach (without Kofi):
31-45 (.407)

But we all know how much you loved Groce so it’s no wonder you think Underwood is great too.  They are virtually the same level.



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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #534 on: April 18, 2023, 06:30:15 PM »
And the without Kofi comparison is very apt because he is a unique irreplaceable physical player.

Kofi is to Underwood, what Cam Newton was to Gene Chizik.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #535 on: April 18, 2023, 06:31:38 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 18, 2023, 05:52:09 PM
Paying devil’s advocate here; Hurley would have made the tourney in ‘20. And hasn’t had any seasons vacated. Honestly, I’d say there’s probably not a big difference between the two. Both capable D1 coaches. I’d be willing to bet Hurley is better at Xs and Os though.

As would Underwood.

Why, given the small gap between them, are their results so different do you suspect?

Underwood’s results - wins, win percentage, conference win percentage, tournament appearances, tournament wins - are notably better than Hurley’s even if you follow Truth’s idiot ass and randomly remove all the seasons Underwood had Kofi for no real reason.  Why do you think that is if they’re comparable?

If Hurley is so much better a game coach what explains the gap between them in terms of results?
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #536 on: April 18, 2023, 06:32:45 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 18, 2023, 06:24:02 PM
Another comparison.

John Groce as high major conf coach:
37-53 (.411)

Brad Underwood as high major conf coach (without Kofi):
31-45 (.407)

But we all know how much you loved Groce so it’s no wonder you think Underwood is great too.  They are virtually the same level.

Yes, again, I can make almost any coach look better than Underwood as long as I simply don’t count Underwood’s best seasons.

You just don’t see people make arguments that fucking stupid that often.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #537 on: April 18, 2023, 06:34:15 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 18, 2023, 06:15:48 PM
He’s 31-45.  Are you as bad at math as you are at English?

OSU- 9-9
IL- 4–14
IL- 7-13
IL- 11-9

31-45.  .407 winning %

Ah, my bad.  I miscounted once while showing you that the coaches are comparable even if I, for no reason whatsoever other than that you are a complete dumbass, remove the seasons Underwood had a certain player.

I mean, the point was still pretty clear - the only way to make the two coaches have comparable results is to simply disqualify a number of Underwood’s seasons for no reason.  But only a moron like you would do that.
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #538 on: April 18, 2023, 06:34:28 PM »
'On May 20, 2020, following the discovery of an administrative error in certifying eligibility for student-athletes, Stephen F. Austin reached an agreement with the NCAA to vacate hundreds of wins across multiple sports from 2013 to 2019, including all 117 men's basketball wins from the 2014–15 to 2018–19 seasons. As a result, three NCAA tournament appearances and three Southland conference titles were nullified."
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Re: 2023 PORTAL TRACKING THREAD
« Reply #539 on: April 18, 2023, 06:35:36 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 18, 2023, 06:10:49 PM
lol “whole career”.  Brad didn’t build anything at SFA.  He inherited a great program.

As you yourself showed, the major conference record between the 2 is damning to Underwood. He’s a big nothing without Kofi.

I’m honestly shocked you count any of Underwood’s wins.  I mean, shames out the door for you here right?  You’re already disqualifying half of Underwood’s entire career for no reason at all?  Why stop at half?

I will completely agree that if you remove all of Underwood’s best seasons for no reason, you can make him look pretty bad.  That’s just fucking stupid to do, and no reasonable person would think it wasn’t.
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