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Re: who leaves
« Reply #225 on: April 04, 2023, 07:09:26 PM »
Underwood needs to learn to get high quality PGs in the portal b/c most guards he recruits end up hating him and leaving.

His half-court offense will never be good if he cant keep a pg around.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #226 on: April 04, 2023, 07:12:20 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 04, 2023, 05:47:14 PM
Impressed with your hindsight, as always.

My point is we’ve always been able to hire quality candidates. Minus a couple whiffs in a row.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #227 on: April 04, 2023, 07:20:22 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 04, 2023, 06:15:50 PM
No. Gary Moeller was the worst. Jim Valek was the second worst.

Where does Lou Tepper rate? Beckman has to be in the mix.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #228 on: April 04, 2023, 07:28:30 PM »
It’s Beckman, and it isn’t close.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #229 on: April 04, 2023, 07:49:29 PM »
Wonder if Theo Epstein would be interested in the Illinois job.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #230 on: April 04, 2023, 08:04:49 PM »
Skyy Clark (24.5 min) FR
Mark Smith (19.1 min) FR
Alan Griffin (18.1 min) SO
Jayden Epps (24.6 min) FR
RJ Melendez (21.5 min) SO
Adam Miller (25.5 min) FR
Andre Curbelo (19.3 min) SO

Spark, these are disgruntled employees that quit bc they hate their boss.  Find me some other team that lost 7 FR/SO that played 18+ minutes a game. If you can find a team like that most likely they suck.
 
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #231 on: April 04, 2023, 08:06:56 PM »
Beckman was a wreck from the start. Tepper and Turner at least had high points.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #232 on: April 04, 2023, 08:14:03 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on April 04, 2023, 08:06:56 PM
Beckman was a wreck from the start. Tepper and Turner at least had high points.

“When we say Oskee…”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #233 on: April 04, 2023, 11:31:12 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 04, 2023, 07:20:22 PM
Where does Lou Tepper rate? Beckman has to be in the mix.
Beckman makes the top 3. Tepper was a competent DC.

Valek  was 8–32 over 4 years.

Bob Blackman had a competitive program; 6 years, 29–36–1.

 Moeller had a 3 year 6–24–3 record, featuring the 1978 futility bowl.



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Re: who leaves
« Reply #234 on: April 04, 2023, 11:52:53 PM »
I know some people want Dom banned but I just love watching him get eviscerated soooooo much. 
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #235 on: April 05, 2023, 12:06:41 AM »
The puff pieces departure announcements are annoying. Players should all say why they really left.

We know Mark Smith left because of punitive use of exercise. He had to use the treadmill when he phucked up. He also wanted to play pg. Lol.

Alan Griffin's mom wanted him to transfer. His dad wanted him to stay. The kid had issues. I was told he was eventually effectively shown the door. Same problems surfaced at 'cuse. He was benched and declared for the draft. Likely not invited back

Curbelo has had major issues at SJU, much worse than here. I understand he also had off court issues here that were kept quiet even before the concussion.

It is has been said RJ has not been happy here socially because Antigua et al left and it affected his play. There are other issues beyond the staff's control.

We know Miller allegedly  wanted to stay but his family didn't think he was used right and were jealous of Ayo. That story  is well known.

Rumor is Epps made an NIL demand that was excessive and money people said no. No idea if that is true.

Clark reportedly thinks he struggled because he didn't have enough freedom in Underwood's offense.

Others have come to Underwood's defense on twitter, Shannon, Hawkins, Harris, Goode.

Matt Mayer should hook up with a ghost writer and pen a tell all book about this past season. He could call it "A Season on the Drink."
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #236 on: April 05, 2023, 01:20:34 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 05, 2023, 12:06:41 AM
The puff pieces departure announcements are annoying. Players should all say why they really left.

We know Mark Smith left because of punitive use of exercise. He had to use the treadmill when he phucked up. He also wanted to play pg. Lol.

Alan Griffin's mom wanted him to transfer. His dad wanted him to stay. The kid had issues. I was told he was eventually effectively shown the door. Same problems surfaced at 'cuse. He was benched and declared for the draft. Likely not invited back

Curbelo has had major issues at SJU, much worse than here. I understand he also had off court issues here that were kept quiet even before the concussion.

It is has been said RJ has not been happy here socially because Antigua et al left and it affected his play. There are other issues beyond the staff's control.

We know Miller allegedly  wanted to stay but his family didn't think he was used right and were jealous of Ayo. That story  is well known.

Rumor is Epps made an NIL demand that was excessive and money people said no. No idea if that is true.

Clark reportedly thinks he struggled because he didn't have enough freedom in Underwood's offense.

Others have to Underwood's defense on twitter, Shannon, Hawkins, Harris, Goode.

Matt Mayer should hook up with a ghost writer and pen a tell all book about this past season. He could call it "A Season on the Drink."

When you are constantly getting dumped, the problem is you.  No other program has had this amount of turnover with a long tenured head coach.

Not even money or high class facilities can keep these guys.

Again, without Kofi Cockburn, Underwood would have been fired 2 years ago.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #237 on: April 05, 2023, 04:34:52 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 05, 2023, 01:20:34 AM
When you are constantly getting dumped, the problem is you. 

^^^^^
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #238 on: April 05, 2023, 08:30:37 AM »
Almost every school has had huge turnover no matter who their coach is.  Would be crazy if that wasn't true, given there were more than 3 transfers per D1 school last offseason.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #239 on: April 05, 2023, 08:40:05 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 05, 2023, 08:30:37 AM
Almost every school has had huge turnover no matter who their coach is.  Would be crazy if that wasn't true, given there were more than 3 transfers per D1 school last offseason.

It’s not that I don’t believe you, I do. But where did you find this stat? I’d be curious to read about it.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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