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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #525 on: April 28, 2023, 08:24:28 AM »
For the 68th time, I don’t “hate” what they did. Just felt it could have probably been better. Lynch me for that highly controversial take, go ahead.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #526 on: April 28, 2023, 08:30:28 AM »
Would I ordinarily espouse drafting a player “you don’t want?” No. Might I make an exception if that player is at excellent value and billed as the best player in the draft (by many experts), and he plays the position you most desperately need? Yeah, I might. Because at worst I got an awesome talent at a critical position for excellent value. That’s if you can’t flip him. Which I believe they could have.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #527 on: April 28, 2023, 08:31:28 AM »
If that’s “the stupidest thing you’ve ever seen on the internet,” so be it.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #528 on: April 28, 2023, 08:33:48 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 28, 2023, 08:14:57 AM
I remember Tempo going on and on about how the Bears fleeced the 49ers by trading up a spot to get a guy the 49ers didn't want.

And even if that were true (it’s not, even remotely), I don’t see how that is very relevant to what we saw yesterday.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #529 on: April 28, 2023, 08:34:02 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 28, 2023, 08:24:28 AM
For the 68th time, I don’t “hate” what they did. Just felt it could have probably been better. Lynch me for that highly controversial take, go ahead.
I got the impression your preference was a shooting.

"Sounds like there’s a high likelihood the Bears’ next coach will be Eberflus, Caldwell, or Leslie Frazier. Just fucking shoot me."
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« Reply #530 on: April 28, 2023, 08:34:11 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 28, 2023, 08:23:13 AM
If the 127th pick in next years’ draft was the best they could do…ok fine. I just find that really hard to believe. And again, making the best team in the NFC stronger maybe isn’t the most prudent move. I’d have less issue if they’d traded the Carter pick to the Jets, or even the Falcons.

You do at least understand that there's no such thing as a unilateral trade in the NFL, right?  You need two parties who both agree to it.  Trade logic isn't off.
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« Reply #531 on: April 28, 2023, 08:36:09 AM »
Quote from: Mn on April 28, 2023, 08:34:02 AM
I got the impression your preference was a shooting.

"Sounds like there’s a high likelihood the Bears’ next coach will be Eberflus, Caldwell, or Leslie Frazier. Just fucking shoot me."

I don’t think reading your posts is worth the 1% hit rate. Even though most of them are like 4 words.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #532 on: April 28, 2023, 08:37:08 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 28, 2023, 08:33:48 AM
And even if that were true (it’s not, even remotely), I don’t see how that is very relevant to what we saw yesterday.

They were both situations where a team wanted a guy, the team in front of them didn't want the guy, and the team gave up assets to move up one spot and get him (even though the other team didn't want them).

In one of the situations you thought the Bears got fleeced for spending to move up and get a guy the 49ers didn't even want (ignoring that there were multiple other teams trying to trade into that spot).  In the other situation you thought the Bears got fleeced for receiving an asset to move back a spot and let someone else take a guy they didn't even want.

It doesn't surprise me you don't see the relevance, obviously, but ... they were pretty similar.  A team wanted a guy, and traded with the team one spot in front of them (who didn't even want their guy) to make sure they got him.  You just reacted to them in totally opposite ways.
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« Reply #533 on: April 28, 2023, 08:38:42 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 28, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
You do at least understand that there's no such thing as a unilateral trade in the NFL, right?  You need two parties who both agree to it.  Trade logic isn't off.

Again. It helps your side of the argument that we can’t know what other parties may have had interest. I’d be really surprised if the Eagles were the only one. The Eagles literally got the guy who could have went off the board at #1 three months ago for a day 3 pick. Seems…low.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #534 on: April 28, 2023, 08:40:59 AM »
But you know what? Out of good faith I’ll just assume we have all the information possibly available (we don’t), and say well done by the Bears.

All I’m saying is I feel yesterday could have gone better. Was it a bad day for the Bears? No, I wouldn’t say that at all.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #535 on: April 28, 2023, 08:41:57 AM »
The Bears gave up considerably more than the Eagles did.
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« Reply #536 on: April 28, 2023, 08:43:27 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 28, 2023, 08:41:57 AM
The Bears gave up considerably more than the Eagles did.

For a notably higher pick with others trying to trade into it, yes.
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« Reply #537 on: April 28, 2023, 08:44:21 AM »
I’ve seen Tempo make some super meatheady arguments over the years, but I’ve gotta say “I’m disappointed they didn’t spend their top-10 pick on a guy they had taken off their board and didn’t want” is a new high water mark.
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« Reply #538 on: April 28, 2023, 08:44:43 AM »
The Bears gave up 2 3rds and a 4th. That’s not all that relevant to what happened yesterday.
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« Reply #539 on: April 28, 2023, 08:45:09 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 28, 2023, 08:44:21 AM
I’ve seen Tempo make some super meatheady arguments over the years, but I’ve gotta say “I’m disappointed they didn’t spend their top-10 pick on a guy they had taken off their board and didn’t want” is a new high water mark.

Ok.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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