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#21 Northwestern (2/23)

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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2023, 01:51:55 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on February 24, 2023, 12:39:53 PM
Yeah.  Sounds to me like he's gone.

The world ends if anyone transfers out of Illinois. If Brett Melton, Podz, JCL, etc., all had stayed, we would be annual Final Four contenders. And we would have been champs every year if Jon Scheyer had come to Illinois.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2023, 02:09:08 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on February 24, 2023, 12:33:48 PM
illini0440 on loyalty who has as good a track record on reality as anyone is saying there is a problem between him and the coaches.  Didn't get into a lot of details but it sounds like he isn't doing what the coaches are asking from him in games.  He refused to re-enter the game after taking himself out.  In any of the highlights I didn't see him stand up and clap or yell once in the final run of the game.  He was the only player on the bench that just sat there and pouted as his team made their run.

It's not a good sign, especially at the point of the season that we are in.  His body language in the clips is very concerning. 
Hopefully it blows over and its nothing, but Illini0440 saying this is something that has been going on for a little while now.  Which gives me even more concern.

Yeah if anyone other than 0440 was saying this, I’d immediately dismiss it. Hope it’s all worked out and we move on from this but knowing us that’s wishful thinking.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2023, 02:11:05 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on February 24, 2023, 12:33:48 PM
illini0440 on loyalty who has as good a track record on reality as anyone is saying there is a problem between him and the coaches.  Didn't get into a lot of details but it sounds like he isn't doing what the coaches are asking from him in games.  He refused to re-enter the game after taking himself out.  In any of the highlights I didn't see him stand up and clap or yell once in the final run of the game.  He was the only player on the bench that just sat there and pouted as his team made their run.

It's not a good sign, especially at the point of the season that we are in.  His body language in the clips is very concerning. 
Hopefully it blows over and its nothing, but Illini0440 saying this is something that has been going on for a little while now.  Which gives me even more concern.

That’s Breal.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #138 on: February 24, 2023, 02:14:24 PM »
Quote from: Mn on February 24, 2023, 12:12:43 PM
This.
He had an 0fer game and Harris was playing his ass off.

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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #139 on: February 24, 2023, 02:14:51 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on February 24, 2023, 11:52:22 AM
I don’t see a problem with it. Epps might’ve realized the team was playing much better without him and chose to not go in. It’s not an issue in my opinion.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #140 on: February 24, 2023, 02:15:03 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on February 24, 2023, 12:33:48 PM
illini0440 on loyalty who has as good a track record on reality as anyone is saying there is a problem between him and the coaches.  Didn't get into a lot of details but it sounds like he isn't doing what the coaches are asking from him in games.  He refused to re-enter the game after taking himself out.  In any of the highlights I didn't see him stand up and clap or yell once in the final run of the game.  He was the only player on the bench that just sat there and pouted as his team made their run.

It's not a good sign, especially at the point of the season that we are in.  His body language in the clips is very concerning. 
Hopefully it blows over and its nothing, but Illini0440 saying this is something that has been going on for a little while now.  Which gives me even more concern.

Damn prima donnas. Hope this kid figures his shit out, puts ego aside, and gets with the program. He could be special here.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2023, 02:17:01 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on February 24, 2023, 11:57:27 AM
Eh.  I don't think most D1 basketball players have that mentality.

Players want to play.  They're not into sitting because "the team is better off without me."

I'm guessing he's pissed off, and was throwing a little hissy fit.

The suggestion that he refused to go in because the team was better off without him is one of the wilder takes I’ve seen in some time.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2023, 02:24:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on February 24, 2023, 02:17:01 PM
The suggestion that he refused to go in because the team was better off without him is one of the wilder takes I’ve seen in some time.

I agree with Tempo. And Jobu. I bet Carl would agree too if he were here.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #143 on: February 24, 2023, 04:15:00 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on February 24, 2023, 11:52:22 AM
I don’t see a problem with it. Epps might’ve realized the team was playing much better without him and chose to not go in. It’s not an issue in my opinion.

Very unlikely.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #144 on: February 24, 2023, 04:16:43 PM »
Quote from: FaninCa on February 24, 2023, 04:15:00 PM
Very unlikely.

I agree actually. Regardless I don’t see it as a big issue. He’ll be ok.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #145 on: February 24, 2023, 04:22:10 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on February 24, 2023, 04:16:43 PM
I agree actually. Regardless I don’t see it as a big issue. He’ll be ok.

I'm inclined to believe Illini0440.  Not good at all. Kid has a big chip on his shoulder.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #146 on: February 24, 2023, 05:36:12 PM »
Epps played 29 minutes and scored 17 a few days ago.
If it's being said that he's not doing what is being asked, then his minutes would get cut.
I would question the refusal to play part of it.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #147 on: February 24, 2023, 06:17:47 PM »
Most coaches will say something to the effect that the offense serves you; you don't serve the offense. The offense is designed to get good shots. A coach wants players to make decisions and knows some will be bad decisions.

Sometimes they run a set play. If a kid deviates from that, he better have a good reason.

My impression is Epps has made a few bad decisions and doesn't appreciate being corrected.
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #148 on: February 24, 2023, 06:36:25 PM »
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Re: #21 Northwestern (2/23)
« Reply #149 on: February 24, 2023, 07:43:11 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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