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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #225 on: January 16, 2023, 11:03:13 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 16, 2023, 10:34:51 AM
Struggled at times would be one thing. Getting absolutely butt plugged by Mizzou and Penn State at home are another.

Both bad losses, but they beat 2 top 10 teams.

When last season ended, I didn't forsee this as a KenPom top 25 team. 
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #226 on: January 16, 2023, 11:29:31 AM »
Quote from: FaninCa on January 16, 2023, 11:03:13 AM
Both bad losses, but they beat 2 top 10 teams.

When last season ended, I didn't forsee this as a KenPom top 25 team.

We are in a new era. End of last season and beginning of the next can look totally different.

Once this roster was settled I expected top 12-15 with national title potential.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #227 on: January 16, 2023, 11:56:40 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 16, 2023, 11:29:31 AM
We are in a new era. End of last season and beginning of the next can look totally different.

Once this roster was settled I expected top 12-15 with national title potential.

Once they got Shannon. I've expected a tournament team that will get bounced early, even though Underwood has two guys that are second pick NBA picks.

I can't see Underwood making a deep tourney run, unless he has a lot more talent.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #228 on: January 16, 2023, 12:54:12 PM »
Quote from: FaninCa on January 16, 2023, 10:28:44 AM
I'm not an Underwood fan and don't see him recruiting enough talent to make a Sweet 16 run.

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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #229 on: January 16, 2023, 01:18:59 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 16, 2023, 09:58:32 AM


Put Rodgers on Edey lets see what happens.

Absurd argument since almost nobody in college can guard Edey. It'll be interesting to see what Uberwood does.

Overall, Rodgers has the body and length to check typical bigs. He also has the lateral agility to cover wings and guards.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #230 on: January 16, 2023, 01:30:27 PM »
Dom wants us to look at the Missouri, PSU, and NU games when there was clearly something going on. Whatever it was, it appears to have been fixed. Mayer and Shannon both credit Underwood.

Dom also points to Clark's videos when he came back too soon for Monteverde and was not fully recovered. That makes as much sense as looking at pre-injury videos and claiming he has NBA athleticism.

It's called cherry picking. 
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #231 on: January 16, 2023, 01:45:46 PM »
From what I read the team (idk if all of em) went out to celebrate Hawkins birthday the night before the Penn St game



So if that tells ya anything on why that game sucked
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« Reply #232 on: January 16, 2023, 02:11:33 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 16, 2023, 01:18:59 PM
Absurd argument since almost nobody in college can guard Edey. It'll be interesting to see what Uberwood does.

Overall, Rodgers has the body and length to check typical bigs. He also has the lateral agility to cover wings and guards.

A 5-year old can construct better arguments than Dom. 

The teen girls Dom chases are too mature for him. 
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #233 on: January 16, 2023, 06:36:38 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 16, 2023, 01:30:27 PM
Dom wants us to look at the Missouri, PSU, and NU games when there was clearly something going on. Whatever it was, it appears to have been fixed.

Nothing was going on. Illinois is just a bad team that’s poorly coached. They been that way the whole season.

They’ve played shit fucking teams since then:

Wisconsin sucks without their best player.  They haven’t won a game without him.

Who gives 2 shits about Nebraska and Minnesota? Those are the worst teams in the conference.

MSU isn’t good either and it took a massive homer job to win that game, another where Illinois was losing big in the 2nd half. That basically followed the script of the rest of the games Illinois has played vs comparable competition:  be behind big in the 2nd half and require a comeback to win (UCLA, Texas, Maryland, Penn State, Mizzou, Northwestern, Virginia)

When Illinois starts playing better than dog shit teams, they’ll lose bc they suck.

And Skyy Clark sucks bc Kentucky cut him loose after they saw he had no burst left, and then he shows up at Illinois shaped like a square and can’t guard anyone. Watch the games. It’s not hard
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #234 on: January 16, 2023, 06:41:41 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 16, 2023, 06:36:38 PM
Nothing was going on. Illinois is just a bad team that’s poorly coached. They been that way the whole season.

They’ve played shit fucking teams since then:

Wisconsin sucks without their best player.  They haven’t won a game without him.

Who gives 2 shits about Nebraska and Minnesota? Those are the worst teams in the conference.

MSU isn’t good either and it took a massive homer job to win that game, another where Illinois was losing big in the 2nd half. That basically followed the script of the rest of the games Illinois has played vs comparable competition:  be behind big in the 2nd half and require a comeback to win (UCLA, Texas, Maryland, Penn State, Mizzou, Northwestern, Virginia)

When Illinois starts playing better than dog shit teams, they’ll lose bc they suck.

And Skyy Clark sucks bc Kentucky cut him loose after they saw he had no burst left, and then he shows up at Illinois shaped like a square and can’t guard anyone. Watch the games. It’s not hard

The same Michigan State who literally lost by 1 to “your” Purdue team. If the refs ever call Edey for a foul they would’ve won the damn thing. Yeah they suck. You’re a fucking idiot who keeps moving goalposts every single time you’re wrong. It’s your shtick.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #235 on: January 16, 2023, 07:10:21 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 16, 2023, 06:41:41 PM
You’re a fucking idiot who keeps moving goalposts every single time you’re wrong. It’s your shtick.

It is not just his schtick....and we should be used to it here.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #236 on: January 16, 2023, 07:18:54 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 16, 2023, 07:10:21 PM
It is not just his schtick....and we should be used to it here.

Good point.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #237 on: January 16, 2023, 07:52:53 PM »
Quote from: sharethejuice on January 16, 2023, 01:45:46 PM
From what I read the team (idk if all of em) went out to celebrate Hawkins birthday the night before the Penn St game



So if that tells ya anything on why that game sucked

Should have invited the psu players too... smh
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #238 on: January 16, 2023, 08:15:44 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 16, 2023, 06:36:38 PM
Nothing was going on. Illinois is just a bad team that’s poorly coached. They been that way the whole season.

They’ve played shit fucking teams since then:

Wisconsin sucks without their best player.  They haven’t won a game without him.

Who gives 2 shits about Nebraska and Minnesota? Those are the worst teams in the conference.

MSU isn’t good either and it took a massive homer job to win that game, another where Illinois was losing big in the 2nd half. That basically followed the script of the rest of the games Illinois has played vs comparable competition:  be behind big in the 2nd half and require a comeback to win (UCLA, Texas, Maryland, Penn State, Mizzou, Northwestern, Virginia)

When Illinois starts playing better than dog shit teams, they’ll lose bc they suck.

And Skyy Clark sucks bc Kentucky cut him loose after they saw he had no burst left, and then he shows up at Illinois shaped like a square and can’t guard anyone. Watch the games. It’s not hard

MSU was good enough to have a 9 point lead on us.

You talk about massive homer jobs yet conveniently leave out the string of calls MSU got after Izzo did his usual bitching and moaning to the refs. It was bad on both sides.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #239 on: January 17, 2023, 12:55:23 PM »
This is just a sparty fans take on the game, fwiw. According to him, it was Izzoes game plan to forego passing and the three, in favor of attacking the basket and crashing the boards. Says it worked until BU adjusted.

https://www.theonlycolors.com/2023/1/14/23555383/how-did-illinois-beat-michigan-state
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