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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #165 on: January 15, 2023, 03:30:28 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 15, 2023, 02:54:23 PM
All true. But those are indications that Illinois did not play a great game, yet still won. Licksdogs was arguing Illinois was GREAT!!!
His words: "Great win against the hottest team in league."

A great win, which I agree with, is not saying Illinois was great.
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« Reply #166 on: January 15, 2023, 03:36:36 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 15, 2023, 02:55:24 PM
And how is any of that related?

Figure it out.
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« Reply #167 on: January 15, 2023, 03:48:58 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 15, 2023, 02:54:23 PM
All true. But those are indications that Illinois did not play a great game, yet still won. Licksdogs was arguing Illinois was GREAT!!!

In the post Dom replied to, LK wrote:

"Was really good to get level and MSU played well. They are a very solid team loaded with guards and wings who can score and they guard hard."

Dom cited the 3 pt and assists to argue that MSU didn't play well. You seemed to agree.

MSU actually played pretty well. Blame the refs or credit Illinois, it was not good enough.
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« Reply #168 on: January 15, 2023, 04:08:32 PM »
We need a popcorn earting emoji,  Custard.
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« Reply #169 on: January 15, 2023, 04:46:30 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 15, 2023, 04:08:32 PM
We need a popcorn earting emoji,  Custard.

I like earting popcorn.
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #170 on: January 15, 2023, 04:57:40 PM »
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« Reply #171 on: January 15, 2023, 04:59:08 PM »
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« Reply #172 on: January 15, 2023, 05:05:58 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 15, 2023, 03:30:28 PM
His words: "Great win against the hottest team in league."

A great win, which I agree with, is not saying Illinois was great.

My bad. He said MSU played well. By default, that would mean Illinois played well, as the team is not great enough to suck and beat a team that played well (Northwestern, Maryland, Mizzou, etc.)

But let's keep parsing so that Lkdork can feel good about himself. Wouldn't want him to run off!
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« Reply #173 on: January 15, 2023, 06:04:27 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 15, 2023, 05:05:58 PM
My bad. He said MSU played well. By default, that would mean Illinois played well,

Things IL did well:
10 blocks, 4 steals, only 5 turnovers, 11 assists. Only 10 personal fouls. Shot 83% from the line, 50% from 2, 33% from 3.
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« Reply #174 on: January 15, 2023, 06:25:50 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 15, 2023, 05:05:58 PM
My bad. He said MSU played well. By default, that would mean Illinois played well, as the team is not great enough to suck and beat a team that played well (Northwestern, Maryland, Mizzou, etc.)

But let's keep parsing so that Lkdork can feel good about himself. Wouldn't want him to run off!

Weird flex. 🍿
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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #175 on: January 15, 2023, 06:57:28 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 15, 2023, 06:04:27 PM

Things IL did well:
10 blocks, 4 steals, only 5 turnovers, 11 assists. Only 10 personal fouls. Shot 83% from the line, 50% from 2, 33% from 3.

LOL. Licksdongs said MSU "guards hard." Illinois, which has not been burning up the nets, shot 45 percent from the field.

Also, saying they "guard hard" is meaningless. The KenPom numbers, which I know people here ejaculate to, have them close to the middle of the Big Ten in AdjD. Too many people here STILL do not understand how and when to use statistics.

Keep bending yourself into a pretzel trying to defend his nonsense while also trying to pivot back to actual numbers. Can't do both at the same time.
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« Reply #176 on: January 15, 2023, 07:58:29 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 15, 2023, 02:31:37 PM
Dom still insists Ty Rodgers does not belong, despite his defensive and rebounding efforts against the  Badgers and Cornhole. Note that Rodgers won't be 19 until May.

Dom is down on Dainja because he will be 21 in July.

Dom is high on Harris, who will be 21 in September.

Dom gloats because Skyy Clark is reportedly having personal off court issues, and is taking time off from basketball. Dom is sure that proved he was right. 

Related: insiders posted that Ayo spent all his free time in the gym getting better at basketball. Belo, otoh, even before the head injury, supposedly liked to party all the time. Also hinted some partied hard and late the night before the PSU debacle. Didn't mention names. fwiw

Skyy Clark sucks because his film showed he sucked.  Period.  I can analyze film.  You can’t. 

Ty Rodgers sucks because he’s too short for the skills he has and can’t shoot.  He doesn’t have a position at this level.

Harris has upside bc he’s a basketball athlete. His older age is certainly a question mark sure. Absolutely.

Dainja doesn’t have much upside.  It’s his 3rd year of college.  Look at him like a college Junior.  He’s not a very good athlete.  Will never be a good athlete.

He has one good game and you run your mouth.  Facts are he’s a role player.  That’s it.

And the familiar refrain “they lose bc they party too much”.  I hate to tell you this, but Illinois loses bc they are horribly coached.  They don’t run anything.  It’s AAU ball. 

Once they start losing starts again you can go back to pretending you missed the games. 

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« Reply #177 on: January 15, 2023, 08:09:36 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 15, 2023, 02:13:17 PM
He claimed MSU did not play well because they did not make any threes and had few assists.

Of course, they only attempted 7 threes, most when they were playing catch up late in the game. They were scoring on mid range shots off the dribble; which also helps  explain the low assist total.

MSU shot just under 50% inside the arc, despite a swarming Illini defense that blocked 10 shots..

Dom ignored the fact that MSU out rebounded us 42 - 30 and had 15 offensive rebounds.

In that post Dom also failed to mention that MSU led most of the game and had double digit lead late in the 2nd half.

In addition, he contradicted himself in a subsequent post. He noted that MSU had a good lead when BU got 2nd half technical. He blamed our rally on home cooking from the refs, not poor play by MSU.

Are you retarded?  Or just senile?  MSU played like shit and was still up 9 before the refs changed the game.  Just bc they were up 9 doesn’t mean they played well.  They were up 9 bc IL is a terrible team and you don’t really need to play well at all to beat a team as bad as Illinois.

Penn State is mediocre.  They were up 24 on Illinois.

Mizzou is a good team.  They were up 35 on Illinois.

You know why those two teams blew the doors off Illinois?  They were taking and making wide open 3s.  MSU was 0-7.  That’s the difference.  Weren’t taking any, weren’t making any.

If you think taking mid range 2s is good basketball, it’s not. 

So MSU didn’t play well in any estimation.

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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #178 on: January 15, 2023, 10:16:27 PM »
Domtard wasn't high on Kofi Cockburn back when he was a 20 year old freshman.

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Re: Izzhoes
« Reply #179 on: January 15, 2023, 11:00:07 PM »
Quote from: FaninCa on January 15, 2023, 10:16:27 PM
Domtard wasn't high on Kofi Cockburn back when he was a 20 year old freshman.

Not many people were.  He wasn’t very good at Oak Hill and didn’t have many teams wanting him coming out of HS.  Beating out a bad UConn team wasn’t exactly a huge recruiting win.

Kofi was an anomaly and it helped Antigua was good at working with big guys.  Illinois got lucky with Kofi and Giorgi vastly ouplaying their HS credentials. 
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