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Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here

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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #180 on: March 01, 2023, 09:59:13 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 09:05:49 AM
Welp. We can write off Jalen Carter…

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/01/report-jalen-carter-was-present-at-teammates-fatal-crash-misled-police-about-it/

It is the NFL. They do not care. If you are going to write him off, it is because he has to take plays off due to his conditioning. 
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #181 on: March 01, 2023, 10:13:42 AM »
This also lessens the value of the #1 pick.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #182 on: March 01, 2023, 10:48:24 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 10:13:42 AM
This also lessens the value of the #1 pick.

Depends on what teams are looking for, doesn't it?
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #183 on: March 01, 2023, 11:15:04 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 01, 2023, 10:48:24 AM
Depends on what teams are looking for, doesn't it?

It’s difficult to envision the guy some people have as the #1 overall prospect falling (perhaps a lot) not damaging the value of the pick. Even more critical for a couple of QBs to be highly sought now.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #184 on: March 01, 2023, 12:08:35 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 11:15:04 AM
It’s difficult to envision the guy some people have as the #1 overall prospect falling (perhaps a lot) not damaging the value of the pick. Even more critical for a couple of QBs to be highly sought now.

You do not believe tha people have learned their lesson after Warren Sapp and Laremy Tunsil?
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #185 on: March 01, 2023, 12:11:03 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 01, 2023, 12:08:35 PM
You do not believe tha people have learned their lesson after Warren Sapp and Laremy Tunsil?

What “lesson” is that?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #186 on: March 01, 2023, 12:17:44 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 12:11:03 PM
What “lesson” is that?

Seriously? That purported "character" issues should not be the basis for knocking a draft pick down?
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #187 on: March 01, 2023, 12:20:25 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 01, 2023, 12:17:44 PM
Seriously? That purported "character" issues should not be the basis for knocking a draft pick down?

So Rae Carruth, Aaron Hernandez, Lawrence Phillips, Art Schlichter, Johnny Manziel, Tank Johnson and many others like them never existed?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #188 on: March 01, 2023, 12:23:19 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 12:20:25 PM
So Rae Carruth, Lawrence Phillips, Art Schlichter, Johnny Manziel, Tank Johnson and many others like them never existed?

"like them" is a stretch. A number of those you listed were post-draft issues.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #189 on: March 01, 2023, 12:38:28 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 01, 2023, 12:23:19 PM
"like them" is a stretch. A number of those you listed were post-draft issues.

There were red flags on probably all but Schlichter. Just because some work out doesn’t mean it’s prudent to spend a top 5 pick on a guy who’s showed repeatedly poor decision making. I’d argue doing 89 in a 45 (in September), then being in a lethal car race while intoxicated, then misleading police (multiple times) are extremely serious offenses and are enormous red flags. That’s aside from the fact his work ethic was already in question.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #190 on: March 01, 2023, 01:02:08 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 12:38:28 PM
There were red flags on probably all but Schlichter. Just because some work out doesn’t mean it’s prudent to spend a top 5 pick on a guy who’s showed repeatedly poor decision making. I’d argue doing 89 in a 45 (in September), then being in a lethal car race while intoxicated, then misleading police (multiple times) are extremely serious offenses and are enormous red flags. That’s aside from the fact his work ethic was already in question.

We are all well aware how you feel about football players' driving skills and license status.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #191 on: March 01, 2023, 01:20:42 PM »
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We are all well aware how you feel about football players' driving skills and license status.

Pretty remarkable (yet unsurprising) you would boil it down to this.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #192 on: March 01, 2023, 02:07:59 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 01:20:42 PM
Pretty remarkable (yet unsurprising) you would boil it down to this.

Trying to keep it simple for those trying to follow along at home.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #193 on: March 01, 2023, 02:30:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 01, 2023, 02:07:59 PM
Trying to keep it simple for those trying to follow along at home.

I don’t think two dead people, lying to the police (multiple times), and a pattern of reckless behavior is a “simple” matter.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #194 on: March 01, 2023, 02:36:58 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 02:30:53 PM
I don’t think two dead people, lying to the police (multiple times), and a pattern of reckless behavior is a “simple” matter.

No one ever said the underlying incident was "simple." Boiling things down to your interest in player driving and licensing is what was "simple."
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