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Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here

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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #135 on: January 26, 2023, 02:24:17 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 26, 2023, 10:47:52 AM
It makes sense that someone who can’t grasp the subtleties of win probability also can’t grasp the concept of prospect rankings.

LOL. We've covered this ground. A 100 percent win probability has no subtleties. I'd say there aren't many subtleties from 90-99 percent, either.

BTW, Temp0, back in the day, there were prospect rankings that had Ryan Leaf pretty close to Peyton Manning as the top QB in the draft class. How'd that one turn out? But when you have GMs who draft QBs based on things like planting a flag at midfield, you don't get the best results.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #136 on: January 26, 2023, 02:58:00 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 26, 2023, 02:20:52 PM
All rankings are subjective. That doesn't mean they always make sense.

You keep getting tripped up on the Undrafted thing. Is that a big hot take on the Score? But again, an undrafted QB can be signed as a free agent. When the rankings state quite clearly 15 per position, it's silly to obsess about where the drafting cutoff is. If you want to debate whether The Athletic should have ranked 15 QBs, that would be a valid point. But when 15 are ranked, it's valid to assess those, regardless of where you think the cutoff should be.

Again, I'd bet way more often than not the "11th best prospect (according to whom?)" Probably doesn't even make an active NFL roster most years. So why are you quibbling about him being "overranked?"
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #137 on: January 26, 2023, 02:59:05 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 26, 2023, 02:24:17 PM
LOL. We've covered this ground. A 100 percent win probability has no subtleties. I'd say there aren't many subtleties from 90-99 percent, either.

BTW, Temp0, back in the day, there were prospect rankings that had Ryan Leaf pretty close to Peyton Manning as the top QB in the draft class. How'd that one turn out? But when you have GMs who draft QBs based on things like planting a flag at midfield, you don't get the best results.

Another person who doesn't understand variance.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #138 on: January 26, 2023, 03:04:07 PM »
Quote from: GrandmaPAMan on January 26, 2023, 02:58:00 PM
Again, I'd bet way more often than not the "11th best prospect (according to whom?)" Probably doesn't even make an active NFL roster most years. So why are you quibbling about him being "overranked?"

Because he's in the rankings at 11. We've covered this, cockpuppet.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #139 on: January 26, 2023, 03:04:42 PM »
Quote from: GrandmaPAMan on January 26, 2023, 02:59:05 PM
Another person who doesn't understand variance.

Not sure you understand the terms you are using, cockpuppet.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #140 on: January 26, 2023, 04:41:43 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 26, 2023, 03:04:07 PM
Because he's in the rankings at 11. We've covered this, cockpuppet.

Who's your #11?
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #141 on: January 26, 2023, 05:09:08 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 26, 2023, 03:04:07 PM
Because he's in the rankings at 11. We've covered this, cockpuppet.

Yeah, who’s your #11?
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« Reply #142 on: January 26, 2023, 05:46:17 PM »
Not Stetson Bennett, who's a good three years older than everyone else but makes up for it with less height and less arm strength.
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« Reply #143 on: January 26, 2023, 06:09:25 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on January 26, 2023, 05:46:17 PM
Not Stetson Bennett, who's a good three years older than everyone else but makes up for it with less height and less arm strength.

I liken Bennett to Brock Purdy.

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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #144 on: January 27, 2023, 02:47:24 PM »
“Kiper said not only is Fields better than any of the quarterbacks in this draft, he's better than Caleb Williams of USC in the 2024 draft.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/mel-kiper-jr-sees-possible-bears-double-down

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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #145 on: February 03, 2023, 01:01:44 PM »
Sydney Brown said to be having a great week at the Senior Bowl. Would love it if the Bears could get him day 3.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/sydney-brown-senior-bowl/amp/
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #146 on: February 03, 2023, 02:16:45 PM »
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #147 on: February 03, 2023, 02:19:22 PM »
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #148 on: February 08, 2023, 08:57:22 PM »
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #149 on: February 08, 2023, 10:14:59 PM »
He once wrote that the league would be better off without the draft, and that getting rid of it would allow teams to sign players in their own regions and play to their fan bases.
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