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Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread

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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #360 on: May 12, 2023, 12:29:02 PM »
Clevinger:

1. I am neither white knighting for him nor believe he is exonerated. I have no clue what happened between him and his baby mama. And neither do you. It is as if you Twitter Idiots never heard of the Duke Lacrosse case.

2. Baseball investigated the claims. If they thought he was guilty of what was alleged, or even parts of it, they would have suspended him like they did Bauer. That didn't happen, did it? Bauer was a far better player on a high profile team. Clevinger sucks. They'd have zero issue suspending him if they thought there was an issue.

3. Baseball's investigations do not "fully exonerate" anyone. If she was serious, she made very serious allegations, where are the criminal investigations? Lawsuits? I do not know. If he is guilty of something, no reason not to proceed.

4. He's going to therapy. Big deal. Seems like a PR move for baseball. If you are his agent, say do it and let it blow over.

5. If he is guilty of something,  it is being a sucky pitcher. I didn't want him on the Sox, that's for sure. But I'm not going to judge his guilt on this issue and harp on it, based on a radio interview.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #361 on: May 12, 2023, 12:34:48 PM »
Bobby Hull:

1. He was guilty of being a real douchebag...40 years ago....

2. From what I heard from people who reported on it and claimed to know him, he reflected on his earlier idiocy later in life. He knew he fucked up. He also paid a price for being a jackass. He was persona non grata in the NHL for decades (which includes his leaving for the WHA) until the Hawks brought him back in the 2010s.

3. At some point, isn't just overkill? It is not as if the guy was Donald Trump, Stalin, or Hitler.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #362 on: May 12, 2023, 12:43:58 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 12:29:02 PM
Clevinger:

1. I am neither white knighting for him nor believe he is exonerated. I have no clue what happened between him and his baby mama. And neither do you. It is as if you Twitter Idiots never heard of the Duke Lacrosse case.

2. Baseball investigated the claims. If they thought he was guilty of what was alleged, or even parts of it, they would have suspended him like they did Bauer. That didn't happen, did it? Bauer was a far better player on a high profile team. Clevinger sucks. They'd have zero issue suspending him if they thought there was an issue.

3. Baseball's investigations do not "fully exonerate" anyone. If she was serious, she made very serious allegations, where are the criminal investigations? Lawsuits? I do not know. If he is guilty of something, no reason not to proceed.

4. He's going to therapy. Big deal. Seems like a PR move for baseball. If you are his agent, say do it and let it blow over.

5. If he is guilty of something,  it is being a sucky pitcher. I didn't want him on the Sox, that's for sure. But I'm not going to judge his guilt on this issue and harp on it, based on a radio interview.

She said she wasn’t looking to press charges or get him suspended or anything of that nature. She “just wanted him to get help.”

Not to mention, don’t you think Clevinger’s choice of warm up song was in extremely poor taste? He’s an A-hole. It’s pretty well documented.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #363 on: May 12, 2023, 12:45:20 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 12:34:48 PM
Bobby Hull:

1. He was guilty of being a real douchebag...40 years ago....

2. From what I heard from people who reported on it and claimed to know him, he reflected on his earlier idiocy later in life. He knew he fucked up. He also paid a price for being a jackass. He was persona non grata in the NHL for decades (which includes his leaving for the WHA) until the Hawks brought him back in the 2010s.

3. At some point, isn't just overkill? It is not as if the guy was Donald Trump, Stalin, or Hitler.

Either way, you weren’t having it that day. I was just stating facts. I thought you were the facts guy.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #364 on: May 12, 2023, 12:45:24 PM »
Kyle Beach:

1. The Hawks, well McDonough and Q, screwed up royal in handling this. Regardless of how one may interpret the "relationship" between Beach and the pedo, the pedo had sent dick picks to another player. They knew this.

2. You are so lazy, like most Twitter Idiots, that you won't read 66 pages. You have zero clue what is in that report. They found and interviewed a lady who had a 3 some with Beach and the pedo.

3. After reading the report, is Beach a victim or is he struggling with some other issues? You tell me, if you can tolerate reading a whole 66 pages.  I do know, from reading that report, that there are other victims of the pedo. That is on the Hawks. I'd respect hearing a knowledgable contrary opinion on this, but until you read the report, you are just talking out of your ass like most people are.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #365 on: May 12, 2023, 12:48:49 PM »
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #366 on: May 12, 2023, 12:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 12, 2023, 12:43:58 PM
She said she wasn’t looking to press charges or get him suspended or anything of that nature. She “just wanted him to get help.”

Not to mention, don’t you think Clevinger’s choice of warm up song was in extremely poor taste? He’s an A-hole. It’s pretty well documented.

A. Excuse me for being suspicious of her motives. Was going on the radio productive in getting him some help? No.

B. He's probably a douche, but maybe that is all he is guilty of? I don't know the guy other than he is a sucky pitcher.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #367 on: May 12, 2023, 12:50:20 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 12:45:24 PM
Kyle Beach:

1. The Hawks, well McDonough and Q, screwed up royal in handling this. Regardless of how one may interpret the "relationship" between Beach and the pedo, the pedo had sent dick picks to another player. They knew this.

2. You are so lazy, like most Twitter Idiots, that you won't read 66 pages. You have zero clue what is in that report. They found and interviewed a lady who had a 3 some with Beach and the pedo.

3. After reading the report, is Beach a victim or is he struggling with some other issues? You tell me, if you can tolerate reading a whole 66 pages.  I do know, from reading that report, that there are other victims of the pedo. That is on the Hawks. I'd respect hearing a knowledgable contrary opinion on this, but until you read the report, you are just talking out of your ass like most people are.

You were quick to point out the “threesome” when I mentioned the Blackhawks’ gross negligence in this case. I wonder why. As I remember, you were also fairly lenient on Q, and management.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #368 on: May 12, 2023, 12:50:36 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 12, 2023, 12:48:49 PM
Even Canada knew he was a “miserable human.”

https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/opinion/2023/01/30/bobby-hull-was-a-great-hockey-player-and-a-miserable-human-being-his-legacy-isnt-complicated.html

I can't access the article, but we all know he had drinking problems and was a jerk to his family. Again, it was 40 years ago. What had he done in the last 40 years?
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #369 on: May 12, 2023, 12:52:02 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 12, 2023, 12:50:20 PM
You were quick to point out the “threesome” when I mentioned the Blackhawks’ gross negligence in this case. I wonder why. As I remember, you were also fairly lenient on Q, and management.

I was not lenient on Q and management. I noted that there were victims, just that I was unsure Kyle Beach was one of them. Which was the point in responding.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #370 on: May 12, 2023, 12:53:09 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 12:49:27 PM
A. Excuse me for being suspicious of her motives.

We may be getting to the nuts and bolts of it here. You definitely have shown a “pattern” of quickly defending gross behavior or accusations. As I said, I’m pretty sure I’m even forgetting one or two other instances.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #371 on: May 12, 2023, 12:53:54 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 12, 2023, 12:45:20 PM
Either way, you weren’t having it that day. I was just stating facts. I thought you were the facts guy.

Again, things that occured 40 and 50 years ago were being rehashed,  which is to be expected. What was not being discussed is what he was like in the last 40 years.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #372 on: May 12, 2023, 12:55:05 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 12, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
We may be getting to the nuts and bolts of it here. You definitely have shown a “pattern” of quickly defending gross behavior or accusations. As I said, I’m pretty sure I’m even forgetting one or two other instances.

I'm not defending the behavior. I'm questioning the propensity of the mob rushing to judgment before the facts are in.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #373 on: May 12, 2023, 12:56:36 PM »
You also couldn’t wait to shout from the mountain tops about how the Bills’ punter was innocent as well. Even taking a chance to get in a “Tempo and Bernstein” dig. I’m fairly certain I never once mentioned him, and didn’t even know his name when you did.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Pale Hose Thread
« Reply #374 on: May 12, 2023, 12:56:51 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 12, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
We may be getting to the nuts and bolts of it here. You definitely have shown a “pattern” of quickly defending gross behavior or accusations. As I said, I’m pretty sure I’m even forgetting one or two other instances.

You just said her goal was for him to get some help. Was going on the radio with Spiegal and Parkins helping her achieve her goal? She had already been interviewed by baseball....
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