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Karen's 2023 Cub Thread

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Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« on: December 10, 2022, 09:43:50 AM »
Post all your Cub thoughts here for Karen. Willson Contreras is gone!  I personally find Cody Bellinger underwhelming at this point.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2022, 04:14:27 PM »
Cubs have spent $34 5 mil so far and haven't gained a win yet cause they let Contreras walk.

Hoyer seems in over his head and when someone coins the term "intelligent spending" it tells me they aren't nearly as smart as they think. 

Cubs still need a SS, catcher, DH, 2 starting pitchers and a couple vet relievers.  Since "intelligent spending" seems to means no deal surpassing 5 years, Hoyer's probably unlikely to sign Swanson, who would be a pretty underwhelming signing given the Cubs market.

With $50 million left before they reach the luxury tax, I can see Hoyer signing Senga for 5 years, adding a defense oriented catcher, resigning Smyly or signing Cory Kluber and signing  a veteran reliever.  Basically get ready for Madrigal at 2B and Hoerner at SS.

Lastly, if Hoyer signs Correa, I take back all the negative comments above. Lol


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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2022, 06:04:15 PM »
Quote from: Fanin on December 10, 2022, 04:14:27 PM
Cubs have spent $34 5 mil so far and haven't gained a win yet cause they let Contreras walk.

Hoyer seems in over his head and when someone coins the term "intelligent spending" it tells me they aren't nearly as smart as they think. 

Cubs still need a SS, catcher, DH, 2 starting pitchers and a couple vet relievers.  Since "intelligent spending" seems to means no deal surpassing 5 years, Hoyer's probably unlikely to sign Swanson, who would be a pretty underwhelming signing given the Cubs market.

With $50 million left before they reach the luxury tax, I can see Hoyer signing Senga for 5 years, adding a defense oriented catcher, resigning Smyly or signing Cory Kluber and signing  a veteran reliever.  Basically get ready for Madrigal at 2B and Hoerner at SS.

Lastly, if Hoyer signs Correa, I take back all the negative comments above. Lol

Not sure where you get 2 starting pitchers. They signed Taillon, unless that was another Judge-like report that ended up being false.

Contreras wasn't coming back. Also, there were a lot of rumors that his defense dropped off to the point where fewer teams were interested in pursuing him.

Also, it'll probably be at least another year before they offer any more ridiculous long-term deals. They're still paying Heyward next season.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2022, 06:04:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 10, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Post all your Cub thoughts here for Karen. Willson Contreras is gone!  I personally find Cody Bellinger underwhelming at this point.

It's a one-year deal. I'm OK with rolling the dice on this one.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2022, 06:08:57 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on December 10, 2022, 06:04:15 PM
Not sure where you get 2 starting pitchers. They signed Taillon, unless that was another Judge-like report that ended up being false.

Contreras wasn't coming back. Also, there were a lot of rumors that his defense dropped off to the point where fewer teams were interested in pursuing him.

Also, it'll probably be at least another year before they offer any more ridiculous long-term deals. They're still paying Heyward next season.

Currently, they have Stroman, Taillon and Steele.  It seems they want Wesneski and Sampson as the #6 & #7 guys and aren't relying on Kyle Hendricks.   Can see them signing someone like Senga for 4-5 years and giving a 1-2 year deal to Smyly or Kluber.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2022, 06:31:42 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on December 10, 2022, 06:04:53 PM
It's a one-year deal. I'm OK with rolling the dice on this one.

If he stays healthy and produces like he did early in his career it’ll be a steal.

I totally understand letting Contreras walk. He’s 30, marginal defensively, and would have cost good money they can spend elsewhere. Good offense/marginal defense isn’t the way most teams are going these days. The fastest way for the Cubs to contend next year is to get better defensively.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2022, 06:33:29 PM »
Quote from: IVMP on December 10, 2022, 06:04:15 PM
Not sure where you get 2 starting pitchers. They signed Taillon, unless that was another Judge-like report that ended up being false.

Contreras wasn't coming back. Also, there were a lot of rumors that his defense dropped off to the point where fewer teams were interested in pursuing him.

Also, it'll probably be at least another year before they offer any more ridiculous long-term deals. They're still paying Heyward next season.

The fact that he wasn’t traded last year speaks volumes about how much other teams “wanted” him. I’m personally shocked he got the deal he got and with St. Louis, which runs a tight ship.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2022, 09:52:33 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 10, 2022, 06:33:29 PM
The fact that he wasn’t traded last year speaks volumes about how much other teams “wanted” him. I’m personally shocked he got the deal he got and with St. Louis, which runs a tight ship.

Cubs had a deal with Houston that Dusty squashed at the last minute.

Contreras projects as a 3 WAR player and the Cards are a really good organization.  Hoyer f'd up on not dealing Contretas.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2022, 09:42:26 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 10, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Post all your Cub thoughts here for Karen. Willson Contreras is gone!  I personally find Cody Bellinger underwhelming at this point.
Bellinger hasn't been the same since winning the MVP 3 years ago and then hurting his arm/shoulder in 2020. All he does at the plate is swing out his ass to hit HRs, which for the most part ends up being a K or weakly hit out. He won't hit the other way to just get a hit. If he does hit one the other way is because he got fooled and barely got wood on the ball. Defensively, he is very good and can run like the wind. Do the Cubs have a hitting coach that will work on him and straighten him out?? Right now he's a .215 hitter with an occasional HR and bad with runners in scoring position. And being with the Dodgers he was getting to hit with runners on base.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2022, 09:48:03 AM »
I wish there was a like option on here. I agree with what most of you guys are.

I think they need to build the community backup for the cubs. In looking at total rankings all the top teams have huge numbers of home game wins. Then that number drops as you go down the list. The cubs need someone to be excited about. And since they are pretty much working with an open checkbook this year they should work on getting a top pitcher again. Like Prior😁. Hey maybe they should steal him back as a coach. Would have been awesome to land Kodai and coached by Prior.

They need something to get fans excited. That's one of the reasons I think Atlanta has constantly stayed a top team. People there love their team. It's same with the Heat in Miami. Chicago is hard because it has 2 teams and White Sox have recently faired better. Fans get players excited.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2022, 09:50:44 AM »
Quote from: Fanin on December 10, 2022, 09:52:33 PM
Cubs had a deal with Houston that Dusty squashed at the last minute.

Contreras projects as a 3 WAR player and the Cards are a really good organization.  Hoyer f'd up on not dealing Contretas.

Yeah, Cubs vs Cardinals is always my fav game of the season. One day Cubs will get back over them.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2022, 09:57:10 AM »
Quote from: IVMP on December 10, 2022, 06:04:15 PM
Not sure where you get 2 starting pitchers. They signed Taillon, unless that was another Judge-like report that ended up being false.

Contreras wasn't coming back. Also, there were a lot of rumors that his defense dropped off to the point where fewer teams were interested in pursuing him.

Also, it'll probably be at least another year before they offer any more ridiculous long-term deals. They're still paying Heyward next season.

Pretty sure they signed him at $17 mil a yr where Kodai signed elsewhere at $15. So they must not be wanting to spend much more for pitchers this yr. 🤞 They picked the right one.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2022, 10:04:34 AM »
Lol Mets will end up with 3 of the top 10 pitchers.
Would be nice to make all that money and not have to carry the team. That's crazy if Kodai is as good as people think.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2022, 10:25:26 PM »
Maybe Karen can be the ball gal like Marla Collins back in the day and the community will then be excited about going to the ballpark again.
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Re: Karen's 2023 Cub Thread
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2022, 07:24:46 AM »
I know someone who was a Cubs ball girl back in the day. She was/still is quite the looker.
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