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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3165 on: March 08, 2023, 08:17:52 PM »
I am thinking its closing is bad for those who worked there and those who inflation has impacted the most. Obviously, not those who form the Democratic technocratic base these days. Where is JFK to punch the college professors who are the Dem base in the gut and call them pussies?

I am thinking you are wrong. Walmart closing doesn't mean that people aren't making purchases, they are just making purchases from places that are not Walmart, places that pay better wages and have better working conditions than Walmart, which is a priori good for the people who worked there who will now be working for better businesses.

Did you mourn when the horse manure sweepers all lost their jobs sweeping horse manure when Ford put the horses to pasture and those former sweepers got jobs at Ford?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3166 on: March 08, 2023, 08:24:51 PM »
I am thinking you are wrong. Walmart closing doesn't mean that people aren't making purchases, they are just making purchases from places that are not Walmart, places that pay better wages and have better working conditions than Walmart, which is a priori good for the people who worked there who will now be working for better businesses.

Did you mourn when the horse manure sweepers all lost their jobs sweeping horse manure when Ford put the horses to pasture and those former sweepers got jobs at Ford?

Is this the logic you use to justify food deserts? You are the epitome of Dem elitism that drives people to vote for scum like Trump. Sorry for categorizing people,  Custard!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3167 on: March 08, 2023, 09:31:08 PM »
Is this the logic you use to justify food deserts? You are the epitome of Dem elitism that drives people to vote for scum like Trump. Sorry for categorizing people,  Custard!

That's a hell of a straw man. Walmart is not Whole Foods my man.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3168 on: March 08, 2023, 09:32:03 PM »
That's a hell of a straw man. Walmart is not Whole Foods my man.

Walmart sells groceries  doofus.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3169 on: March 08, 2023, 09:40:39 PM »
There are two Walmarts -- and two Aldis -- near here. The ones closest to my home that I frequent tend to cater to a more white collar, upscale, international market. They even carry some Asian food items Meier doesn't.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3170 on: March 08, 2023, 09:46:34 PM »
Walmart sells groceries  doofus.

Not all Walmarts - this is a relatively new feature (see the abandonment of the Lincoln store that was too small for the grocery).

And their pricing and positioning strategy is designed to draw eyeballs to high margin "food" of low nutritional value - the coca cola, chips, snacks, high sugar cereals get the better floor space, the produce is shunted to the back. If you look at the sales mix of Whole Foods or even Safeway(Albertsons/Jewel/etc) vs a Walmart, the percentage of total food purchases from Walmart from fresh produce, meats, etc... vs packaged and processed is much higher at Walmart. There is no deli - you can't get an in house prepared pasta salad for example, but you could get a Lunchables!

Another interesting thing about Walmart but also seen in many large chains in the midwest - in the dairy section, there is milk, eggs, butter. In the produce section there is produce. But off to the side is "the organic section" which includes organic milk, eggs, butter, and produce. In the Northeast and West, there is a dairy section where the conventional milk sits next to the organic milk, ditto butter, etc. Produce sections are a bit trickier because there isn't a big "label" on an apple, so the produce section will have organic in one area, conventional in another area, but it's still all in the produce section, at a Kroger in Dwight the organic produce was in a completely different part of the store from the other produce. Often Walmart will eschew the organics completely because their customer base just won't buy it.

We had noticed this in person, but it was real interesting when my wife did a research gig for Earthbound Farms. When they identified shoppers in the midwest who would be willing to purchase organic products, they often did not because they didn't want to be seen in the "special section" of the store with the organic items, but would purchase those items if they were co-located with the conventional items. Summary to Earthbound was if they wanted to increase sales, they needed to lobby the merchants to ditch the "organic section" and just put the organic milk next to the conventional milk.


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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3172 on: March 08, 2023, 09:48:20 PM »
Aldi has upped their game. They actually have some nice items, and much of it priced much much cheaper than most. You can get better bagels at Aldi for $2.29 than you can at Jewel for $4.99.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3173 on: March 08, 2023, 09:48:53 PM »
Not all Walmarts - this is a relatively new feature (see the abandonment of the Lincoln store that was too small for the grocery).

And their pricing and positioning strategy is designed to draw eyeballs to high margin "food" of low nutritional value - the coca cola, chips, snacks, high sugar cereals get the better floor space, the produce is shunted to the back. If you look at the sales mix of Whole Foods or even Safeway(Albertsons/Jewel/etc) vs a Walmart, the percentage of total food purchases from Walmart from fresh produce, meats, etc... vs packaged and processed is much higher at Walmart. There is no deli - you can't get an in house prepared pasta salad for example, but you could get a Lunchables!

Another interesting thing about Walmart but also seen in many large chains in the midwest - in the dairy section, there is milk, eggs, butter. In the produce section there is produce. But off to the side is "the organic section" which includes organic milk, eggs, butter, and produce. In the Northeast and West, there is a dairy section where the conventional milk sits next to the organic milk, ditto butter, etc. Produce sections are a bit trickier because there isn't a big "label" on an apple, so the produce section will have organic in one area, conventional in another area, but it's still all in the produce section, at a Kroger in Dwight the organic produce was in a completely different part of the store from the other produce. Often Walmart will eschew the organics completely because their customer base just won't buy it.

We had noticed this in person, but it was real interesting when my wife did a research gig for Earthbound Farms. When they identified shoppers in the midwest who would be willing to purchase organic products, they often did not because they didn't want to be seen in the "special section" of the store with the organic items, but would purchase those items if they were co-located with the conventional items. Summary to Earthbound was if they wanted to increase sales, they needed to lobby the merchants to ditch the "organic section" and just put the organic milk next to the conventional milk.

Too bad for the locals that patronized and worked for them that the Portland Walmarts are closed....
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3174 on: March 08, 2023, 09:58:46 PM »
The Walmart I frequent is set up exactly like Meier. You walk in and enter the produce section. The fresh bakery stuff is to the right. Fresh meat behind that. Then cured meats and cheeses. Frozen foods are the way in back.

In the non-perishables, the Asian, Mexican, healthy oils, vinegars, herbs, spices, condiments,  tea, and coffee are in the front rows. Then canned soup, fruit and vegetables. Junk food is in the middle. Booze, wine, juices, and water in the rear.

Housewares etc to the right ...
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3175 on: March 08, 2023, 10:01:49 PM »
The Walmart I frequent is set up exactly like Meier. You walk in and enter the produce section. The fresh bakery stuff is to the right. Fresh meat behind that. Then cured meats and cheeses. Frozen foods are the way in back.

In the non-perishables, the Asian, Mexican, healthy oils, vinegars, herbs, spices, condiments,  tea, and coffee are in the front rows. Then canned soup, fruit and vegetables. Junk food is in the middle. Booze, wine, juices, and water in the rear.

Housewares etc to the right ...

Where are the PF Chang meals, blue jeans, and tires?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3177 on: March 08, 2023, 10:31:43 PM »
Where are the PF Chang meals, blue jeans, and tires?

The pf chang meals are likely out the front door and catty cornered across the street at Aldi. The clothing and tires are part of etc.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3178 on: March 08, 2023, 10:33:03 PM »
Lol. No. We generally prepare our own food. I buy my olive oil and large Kikkoman soy sauce at Walmart.



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