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WTF is wrong with the left?

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ThePAMan

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2970 on: December 22, 2022, 09:36:28 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on December 22, 2022, 09:26:25 PM
The executive has the power to compromise disputed debts. It should follow that the executive can forgive debts on a class basis, but Congres created a conflict between the two fairly basic separation of powers principles by granting a partial power the executive already in theory had.

The litigation is mostly junk by parties who don't have standing.

The Standing thing always gets me, but the days seem to be gone where a Posner would muse on Standing for pages in an opinion.

The issue is that these debts are not disputed. Yeah, Trump University, etc., where there is fraud, ok. This ain't it, for the most part.

The bigger issue is that the bankruptcy reform act made it virtually impossible to discharge these debts in bankruptcy.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2971 on: December 22, 2022, 09:45:54 PM »
You could raise colorable disputes due to the bankruptcy non-dischargability driving tuition rates to increase faster than inflation even as costs did not. Defendants can settle cases even if they're meritless so the law shouldn't distinguish between blanket forgiveness and a dummy plaintiff bringing a class action that the admin settles immediately. It's not coherent that Congress can stop one but not the other.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2972 on: December 22, 2022, 09:57:56 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on December 22, 2022, 09:45:54 PM
You could raise colorable disputes due to the bankruptcy non-dischargability driving tuition rates to increase faster than inflation even as costs did not. Defendants can settle cases even if they're meritless so the law shouldn't distinguish between blanket forgiveness and a dummy plaintiff bringing a class action that the admin settles immediately. It's not coherent that Congress can stop one but not the other.

Not sure that creates a tolerable* dispute despite the argument. You signed the paperwork, borrowed the money, and presumably enrolled in school.

Yet, courts are amenable to reining in executive power depending upon what side of the bed they got up on.

*Colorable instead of tolerable. I should just turn off the auto correct.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2973 on: December 22, 2022, 10:01:44 PM »
Not just courts but the parties flip depending on who has the White House.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2974 on: December 23, 2022, 01:54:28 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:41:49 PM
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2975 on: January 04, 2023, 01:59:07 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2976 on: January 09, 2023, 04:24:01 PM »
Aw geez. Now they tell us. 🤷‍♂️


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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2977 on: January 09, 2023, 04:29:31 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 09, 2023, 04:24:01 PM
Aw geez. Now they tell us. 🤷‍♂️



Because they all got kicked off? Not as many people get their news from The Twitter as claimed? Because the trolls were actually Chinese?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2978 on: January 09, 2023, 09:56:54 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2979 on: January 10, 2023, 06:30:34 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 04:29:31 PM
Because they all got kicked off? Not as many people get their news from The Twitter as claimed? Because the trolls were actually Chinese?
Use your imagination.  :o
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2980 on: January 11, 2023, 05:24:31 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 09:56:54 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html


Lock him up! Lock him up!
He was convincing when he read his prepared statement that he was "surprised" to know about the documents. Lol
Now they're writing another prepared statement for him to read for round 2.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2981 on: January 11, 2023, 05:58:40 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 11, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
He was convincing when he read his prepared statement that he was "surprised" to know about the documents. Lol
Now they're writing another prepared statement for him to read for round 2.

I think I'm with Mn here. Much like PA thinks all people who roll stop signs should be ticketed, I think all former or current presidents who mishandle docs should be permanently barred from office and thrown in jail. Done.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2982 on: January 11, 2023, 06:17:48 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on January 11, 2023, 05:58:40 PM
Much like PA thinks all people who roll stop signs should be ticketed.

Wow, this is Tempo-esque. Murph says flattened bicyclist blowing off stop sign would have been even more reckless driving a car. Countered with, "well, at least people in cars at least roll stop signs instead of blowing them off completely like bicyclists," Murph morphs that, in pure Tempo fashion, into "you think all people who roll stop signs should be ticketed!" Amazing.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2983 on: January 11, 2023, 06:35:55 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 11, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
He was convincing when he read his prepared statement that he was "surprised" to know about the documents. Lol
Now they're writing another prepared statement for him to read for round 2.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2984 on: January 12, 2023, 11:32:42 AM »
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