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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2490 on: May 27, 2022, 12:50:48 PM »
Wasn't there just a recall election out there because of shit just like this?

The recent recall was of a couple of members of the School Board. Do you know who's on your school board? Most people don't, those elections are won often times by a combination of a clever choice of "Occupation" listed on the ballot and luck of the draw in placement on the ballot (I think the best slot is #2, if I recall). If someone works really hard, they can cobble together a small set of supporters to get 5-10% extra and that might be enough.

Then some shit goes down and everyone cares. The school board had a couple of real beauties on it. The COVID protocol was pretty mangled, there's no way you can please everyone with a COVID plan, but they pretty much found a way to piss off the biggest COVID deniers AND the people who wanted the most restrictions.

They bought into the dumbass changes some places are making with respect to math, kids now can't take Algebra II until pretty deep in their career, making a very hard path to get to calculus. I didn't follow it exactly but I think there was a push to not have math split into courses until high school, meaning teachers would have to teach random groups of kids with vastly different skill levels.

There was one high school, Lincoln, which you had to apply to and it was very selective based on academics and test scores. I understand they removed that protocol and put Lincoln into the regular lottery, because you know, equity, everyone should have a chance to attend the "good school", of course "good school" is measured by test scores, and Lincoln had the highest test scores because it was self selected to include the kids with the best test scores. Make it a regular lottery school, everyone will have the opportunity to go to Lincoln but the scores will go down, and eventually Lincoln's curriculum would have to change because they don't have the critical mass for the accelerated classes.

But - they did push to rename the schools, I think Lincoln gets to stay but George Washington owned slaves/etc...

Overall they really sucked no matter what your metric was, and they got recalled, by a coalition of lefties, righties, and moderates. In 2 years they'll end up electing a new incompetent board when everyone forgets.

There is another recall upcoming, the DA is being recalled, basically because he's a very strange bird, again with a rainbow coalition against him.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2491 on: May 27, 2022, 01:15:41 PM »
Citation please?  Link to the proposed ordinance would also be helpful.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2492 on: May 27, 2022, 01:27:27 PM »

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2493 on: May 27, 2022, 01:39:20 PM »


At least you are living up to your sig.... :D
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2494 on: May 29, 2022, 09:41:26 AM »
If gas prices are now because of an "incredible transition" do Putin and Putin's war get some credit for jump starting the transition ?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2495 on: May 29, 2022, 11:53:22 AM »
If gas prices are now because of an "incredible transition" do Putin and Putin's war get some credit for jump starting the transition ?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2496 on: May 31, 2022, 12:20:12 PM »
Not guilty
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2497 on: May 31, 2022, 12:42:07 PM »
Not guilty

Mn, what's the spin from your right-wing websites?

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-hillary-clinton-john-durham-presidential-elections-59158f83bd6a9159b420f2b04848b77f

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The case against Michael Sussmann was the first courtroom test of special counsel John Durham since his appointment three years ago to search for government misconduct during the investigation into potential ties between Russia and Trump’s 2016 campaign. The verdict represents a setback for Durham’s work, especially since Trump supporters had looked to the probe to expose what they contend was egregious bias by law enforcement officials who investigated the former president and his campaign.

The jury deliberated on Friday afternoon and Tuesday morning before reaching its verdict.

Speaking to reporters outside the courthouse after the verdict was delivered, Sussmann said he “told the truth to the FBI, and the jury clearly recognized that with their unanimous verdict today.”

Unsure the last part is true. Could just mean Durham's lawyers sucked and could not prove he lied "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Let's go to the tote board:

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Durham has remained at work into the Biden administration. He has brought three cases so far, though the one against Sussmann is the only to have reached trial. A former FBI lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, was given probation after pleading guilty in 2020 to altering an email related to the surveillance of an ex-Trump campaign aide, and a Russian analyst who contributed to a dossier of Democratic-funded research into ties between Russia and Trump awaits trial on charges of lying to the FBI about his sources of information.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2498 on: May 31, 2022, 12:56:45 PM »
Sounds like Durham's lawyers did not make the case in regards to materiality.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2499 on: May 31, 2022, 01:13:35 PM »
Acquitted by a jury of his peers.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2500 on: May 31, 2022, 01:50:22 PM »
Fox spinning it as a victory because Durham proved the Hillary campaign engaged in opposition research.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2501 on: May 31, 2022, 01:56:36 PM »
"The jury deliberated for six hours. This morning, they asked for exhibits that include the taxi receipts showing that Sussmann did not bill the Hillary campaign for the meeting with the FBI. They also asked whether they all had to agree on the elements of the offense, suggesting some people believed Durham had not proven some aspects (such that Sussmann had lied or that he did so intentionally) whereas others believed Durham had not proven other parts (such as that it was material — remember that FBI largely proceeded as if this were a tip from the Hillary campaign)."
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/05/31/john-durham-starts-his-fourth-year-with-an-embarrassing-acquittal/

Good to see the jury cut through the bullshit and render a quick and unanimous verdict. 

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2502 on: May 31, 2022, 02:01:51 PM »
Fox spinning it as a victory because Durham proved the Hillary campaign engaged in opposition research.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2503 on: May 31, 2022, 02:06:08 PM »
"The jury deliberated for six hours. This morning, they asked for exhibits that include the taxi receipts showing that Sussmann did not bill the Hillary campaign for the meeting with the FBI. They also asked whether they all had to agree on the elements of the offense, suggesting some people believed Durham had not proven some aspects (such that Sussmann had lied or that he did so intentionally) whereas others believed Durham had not proven other parts (such as that it was material — remember that FBI largely proceeded as if this were a tip from the Hillary campaign)."
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/05/31/john-durham-starts-his-fourth-year-with-an-embarrassing-acquittal/

Good to see the jury cut through the bullshit and render a quick and unanimous verdict.

You are burying the lede...The timeline table showing the differences between the Mueller and Durham investigations on that website is very interesting.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2504 on: May 31, 2022, 02:42:42 PM »
The jury forewoman, who did not give her name, told reporters outside the courthouse that "I think we could have spent our time more wisely."

"It didn't pan out in the government's favor and that's on them," she also said.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/31/1102150260/special-counsel-durham-fails-first-courtroom-test-in-his-three-year-probe

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