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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2205 on: March 18, 2022, 12:19:18 PM »
This could get really real when we start getting "Soul Man" level of transgenderism in terms of getting scholarships (Ivy League swimmers aren't scholarship athletes).

I haven't followed this Lia Thomas situation, but while we do want to allow people free expression of their selves, it definitely has a tricky impact (euphemism intentional) on women's sports.

No, it’s just flat out wrong allowing them to compete in women’s sports.
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2206 on: March 18, 2022, 12:26:28 PM »
No, it’s just flat out wrong allowing them to compete in women’s sports.
Might be the answer. You were born with male hormones but prefer to be female, you can't compete in women's sports. Born without the ability to walk, you can't go up Half Dome. Navratilova says "you can swim in a lane but you can't get the medal" - if Lia Thomas loves swimming, let Lia Thomas swim.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2207 on: March 18, 2022, 12:47:38 PM »
Might be the answer. You were born with male hormones but prefer to be female, you can't compete in women's sports. Born without the ability to walk, you can't go up Half Dome. Navratilova says "you can swim in a lane but you can't get the medal" - if Lia Thomas loves swimming, let Lia Thomas swim.

I agree with that. Just no medal.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2208 on: March 18, 2022, 12:49:41 PM »
It could have been the Olympic Games women's downhill, held in Beijing.

Because it was ok having the Olympics in Beijing.

Thanks, Biden?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2209 on: March 18, 2022, 12:51:17 PM »
And if 16 swimmers make the finals, then don't eliminate 1 who could win a medal over someone who can't.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2210 on: March 18, 2022, 12:51:34 PM »
This could get really real when we start getting "Soul Man" level of transgenderism in terms of getting scholarships (Ivy League swimmers aren't scholarship athletes).

I haven't followed this Lia Thomas situation, but while we do want to allow people free expression of their selves, it definitely has a tricky impact (euphemism intentional) on women's sports.

Really? Welcome to the party.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2211 on: March 18, 2022, 12:54:46 PM »
Thanks, Biden?
It's gotta be tough when your son has made you a national security concern.
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Or Ukraine ?
Or Khazikstan ?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2212 on: March 18, 2022, 12:56:03 PM »
It's gotta be tough when your son has made you a national security concern.
Or was that Russia ?
Or Ukraine ?
Or Khazikstan ?

Not sure that is true.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2213 on: March 18, 2022, 01:05:52 PM »
I think we all got alien-abducted, anal-probed, re-programmed, and put back in place as some sort of experiment.

Actually, the Pleiadeans were preforming space-time experiments and accidentally destroyed this universe.  So they reconstructed it as a matrix, but did not get all the detail exactly right. You might recall things happening in the past that now didn't happen or have changed. Or subtle changes in language. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2214 on: March 18, 2022, 01:08:09 PM »
It's gotta be tough when your son has made you a national security concern.


Is it Trump's son, or Trump himself?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2215 on: March 18, 2022, 01:12:22 PM »
Not sure that is true.
Joe did bring up bribery the other day. Out of the blue.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2216 on: March 18, 2022, 02:20:00 PM »
Really? Welcome to the party.

What party?

Nothing is black and white, but boy howdy so many people think it is. What's going on with this example? There are plenty of people who think this swimmer is just some dude who just wanted to win a championship and gamed the system. If so, they've got some serious mental health problems. So what do you do if someone honestly wants to identify as the gender opposite their birth sex (fuck if I know how to write that in a way that doesn't work for someone in the trans community) but who still wants to compete? Maybe they just can't.

I mean, at one point in time the philosophy was that if you were a woman, tough noogies, you aren't as good at athletics as men, that's just biology, so you can't compete. Then we decided that women should have that opportunity, but they can't compete on the playing field with men, so we created women's fields. And over time we didn't limit them - adding women's boxing, pole vault, etc... a bunch of sports that were typically only available to men. There's still no women's NCAA football.

So yeah, allowing trans-women into women's fields is now taking one adaptation we made to give more equity and removing that equity to give equity to an even smaller group.

But I don't subscribe to the concept of people who say "THIS IS CRAZY!". If this swimmer really wants to identify as female, well, that's atypical but we should recognize that this is an atypicality that is going to be limiting for them and be empathetic, while still understanding that some of those limitations should probably exist.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2217 on: March 18, 2022, 02:21:57 PM »
And if 16 swimmers make the finals, then don't eliminate 1 who could win a medal over someone who can't.

Finals tend to be 8, and when you have 8 in the finals, there's usually at most 5 who have a chance at even a bronze. If the field was 16, the 16th swimmer is DOA. But for some, making the final is the medal

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2218 on: March 18, 2022, 02:23:13 PM »
I promise I will never vote for Hunter Biden for president, or his laptop and even his dog.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2219 on: March 18, 2022, 02:39:56 PM »
I don't think we need to ask the Texas swimmer how she feels about this.