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WTF is wrong with the left?

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murphstahoe

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2055 on: March 05, 2022, 07:00:56 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 04, 2022, 08:13:23 AM
From the report....
"In Wisconsin, election officials’ unprecedented use of absentee ballot drop boxes
facially violated Wisconsin law."

"WEC Commissioners sent a
memo to municipal clerks dated August 19, 2020, (the “August 2020 WEC
Memo”) stating that absentee ballots do not need to be mailed by the voter
or delivered by the voter, in person, to the municipal clerk but instead could
be dropped into a drop box and that the ballot drop boxes could be unstaffed,
temporary, or permanent. (A true and correct copy of the August 2020 WEC
Memo is attached hereto as Exhibit B.)"

"The court granted the plaintiffs motion for summary judgment and declared the use
of ballot drop boxes, outside of narrow exceptions, to be inconsistent with Wisconsin law:
For the reasons set forth by the Court on the record at the January 13, 2022
hearing, the Court hereby declares that WEC’s interpretation of state statutes
in the Memos is inconsistent with state law, to the extent they conflict with
the following: (1) an elector must personally mail or deliver his or her own
absentee ballot, except where the law explicitly authorizes an agent to act on
an elector’s behalf, (2) the only lawful methods for casting an absentee ballot
pursuant to Wis. Stat. § 6.87(4)(b)1. are for the elector to place the envelope
containing the ballot in the mail or for the elector to deliver the ballot in
person to the municipal clerk, (3) the use of drop boxes, as described in the
Memos, is not permitted under Wisconsin law unless the drop box is staffed
by the clerk and located at the office of the clerk or a properly designated
alternate site under Wis. Stat. § 6.855."

A de facto admission that it's voter suppression. Lol.
How about a de facto admission that some of the ballot boxes, and the WEC plans to use them violated state law. Jfc.

Did you read the report ?

Your point being that Wisconsin set up the state law in such a way that it would suppress votes
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2056 on: March 05, 2022, 07:27:22 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on March 05, 2022, 07:00:56 PM
Your point being that Wisconsin set up the state law in such a way that it would suppress votes
So you're acknowledging Zuckerberg and the WEC violated state law ?
I wouldnt have expected that from you.
Thanks.  ;D
« Last Edit: March 05, 2022, 07:46:06 PM by Mn »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2057 on: March 05, 2022, 08:27:02 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 05, 2022, 07:27:22 PM
So you're acknowledging Zuckerberg and the WEC violated state law ?
I wouldnt have expected that from you.
Thanks.  ;D

The election grants did not violate any state laws or regulations. 

Breaking down the ‘Zuckerberg 5′ in Wisconsin election report; CTCL derides allegations
“The organization behind the grants cited multiple times throughout the Wisconsin Special Counsel’s report rejected its allegations, citing legal decisions and the way the grants were awarded. The grants, coupled with other allegations, were cited by Special Counsel Michael Gableman on Tuesday when he recommended lawmakers seriously consider decertifying President Joe Biden’s victory.”

“’This so-called report from Michael Gableman rehashes many of the arguments made in more than a dozen frivolous lawsuits filed to smear the CTCL COVID-19 Response Grants program,’ the Center for Tech and Civic Life said Wednesday in a response to NBC15 News.”

“The CTCL pointed to those multiple lawsuits challenging the awards and noted that “conservative, liberal, and two Republican-appointed Supreme Court Justices” rejected the arguments. One of the judges, it added, dubbed the claims a ‘conspiracy theory.’  U.S. District Judge William Griesbach, who was appointed by President George W. Bush, refused to block in Voters Alliance, in conjunction with the conservative Thomas Moore Society."

“The judge said then that there was nothing in state law ‘that can be fairly construed as prohibiting the defendant Cities from accepting funds from CTCL.’  The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on an appeal of that case that those who brought the lawsuit failed to identify any laws that would prohibit the grants.”

“CTCL awarded grants to more than 200 local election offices in Wisconsin, including its five largest cities, and they were designed to help ‘election departments… facing an unprecedented challenge of administering safe and secure elections,’ according to a statement released by the organization at the time.”
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2058 on: March 05, 2022, 08:50:29 PM »
Assuming Mn is over 65, I hope he spends his final years, like Gableman, hunting the Wisconsin Hotel WiFi sasquatch.

I think a deep dive is in order.

The first step is to figure out why there were all these ballot drop boxes in 2020.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2059 on: March 08, 2022, 01:30:12 PM »
whoever this is she does have a point



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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2060 on: March 08, 2022, 01:38:31 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
whoever this is she does have a point



Only if you aren't really paying attention.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2061 on: March 08, 2022, 02:15:39 PM »
Things are going great
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2062 on: March 08, 2022, 02:45:03 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
whoever this is she does have a point



Sad to say but Putin/Russia has a base, albeit small, of support here in the US. There are elements of the idiot left and idiot right that, even now, support him.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2063 on: March 08, 2022, 04:23:03 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 08, 2022, 02:15:39 PM
Things are going great

Who was going to stop inflation given the supply chain issues and pent up demand being unleased all over the world at the same time? Call out the National Guard to work the docks? Maybe would have helped but not cured. Microchip and other shortages are out of our hands because shit isn't built here anymore. Didn't we have meat packing companies, and other businesses, closing down due to COVID issues? And others closed down anticipating lower demand? Maybe some of The COVID mitigation schemes would have prevented some of this had certain people been willing to go along? I do not know. We now have plenty of open office space in downtown areas though.

And if you want to talk Putin being crazy, well, we know a certain someone was using military aid to The Ukraine as blackmail...remember that Vindman guy? Also seems like we have a "5th Column" of Soviet wannabes in this country. Hell, we have enough of those morons posting here.

While I am it: we keep hearing about how the southern boarder is being overrun (which it probably is). Yet, there are low skills jobs open everywhere (with wages going up) that usually attract the people just getting here. Something seems off.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2064 on: March 08, 2022, 04:48:33 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 08, 2022, 04:23:03 PM
Who was going to stop inflation given the supply chain issues and pent up demand being unleased all over the world at the same time? Call out the National Guard to work the docks? Maybe would have helped but not cured. Microchip and other shortages are out of our hands because shit isn't built here anymore. Didn't we have meat packing companies, and other businesses, closing down due to COVID issues? And others closed down anticipating lower demand? Maybe some of The COVID mitigation schemes would have prevented some of this had certain people been willing to go along? I do not know. We now have plenty of open office space in downtown areas though.

And if you want to talk Putin being crazy, well, we know a certain someone was using military aid to The Ukraine as blackmail...remember that Vindman guy? Also seems like we have a "5th Column" of Soviet wannabes in this country. Hell, we have enough of those morons posting here.

While I am it: we keep hearing about how the southern boarder is being overrun (which it probably is). Yet, there are low skills jobs open everywhere (with wages going up) that usually attract the people just getting here. Something seems off.

Biden's idea to stop inflation was to pass another 2 trillion dollar spending plan... https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/politics/biden-inflation-build-back-better-legislation/index.html

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2065 on: March 08, 2022, 05:12:04 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 04:48:33 PM
Biden's idea to stop inflation was to pass another 2 trillion dollar spending plan... https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/politics/biden-inflation-build-back-better-legislation/index.html

lol

I was not a fan of that move and was not unhappy when it crashed. But what do you think should be done?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2066 on: March 08, 2022, 05:29:50 PM »
Well with what we’re paying for shit now from overseas, and/or can’t get, we might think about bringing jobs back over to our country and making some stuff here. Become independent and quit relying on other countries who would rather destroy us. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2067 on: March 08, 2022, 05:53:23 PM »
So you have no basic understanding of economics, is what you're saying?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2068 on: March 08, 2022, 06:08:06 PM »
Quote from: fucking on March 08, 2022, 05:53:23 PM
So you have no basic understanding of economics, is what you're saying?

Sure, Robb. I’d love to hear your thoughts. Explain it all to us and how you can solve it all from the throne on your dumpster. Tell us how smart you are and how dumb all of us peasants are. I’m sure your contribution to the world is quite impressive. Carry on…

Edit- how about RJ Melendez. We all know you don’t know shit about that, so yes, carry on and tell us how smart you are. You can’t even get what you do for a living right.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2069 on: March 08, 2022, 06:12:20 PM »
I think most of the people here are pretty smart.

They know, for example, that closed markets drive up costs for consumers and invariably yield inferior products.

It's why Republicans and moderate Democrats have championed free markets for decades.

You'd have to be pretty stupid not to know that. Few people are that stupid.
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