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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1995 on: March 02, 2022, 08:33:53 PM »
The Office of Special Counsel in Wisconsin has issued a 2nd report on the 2020 vote.

"The OSC learned that all machines in Green Bay were ESS machines and were
connected to a secret, hidden Wi-Fi access point at the Grand Hyatt hotel, which was the
location used by the City of Green Bay on the day of the 2020 Presidential election. The
OSC discovered the Wi-Fi, machines, and ballots were controlled by a single individual
who was not a government employee but an agent of a special interest group operating in
Wisconsin."

"The OSC discovered ballot tracking programs in both Georgia and Pennsylvania.
The OSC was able to locate and identify the developer of both programs in those States.
The OSC obtained the source code for the Pennsylvania application. Ultimately, that data
and source code would not prove to be helpful to discovering information about the
Wisconsin application.
However, the OSC still located the Wisconsin application and its developers. In the
course of that investigation, the OSC documented multiple misrepresentations of material
facts by WEC administrator Meagan Wolfe. For example, Ms. Wolfe told the Assembly
Committee on Campaigns and Elections both that she did not know about the CTCL grants
and that cities did not have access to statewide WisVote or BadgerBooks data. Both of
these statements are demonstrably untrue."

"The CTCL agreement facially violates the election bribery prohibition of Wis. Stat.
§ 12.11 because the participating cities and public officials received private money to
facilitate in-person or absentee voting within such a city. Any similar agreements in the
2022 and 2024 election cycle would also be prohibited election bribery."

There's more, including a determination that ballot boxes violated state law....

https://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/22/brandtjen/media/1552/osc-second-interim-report.pdf
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1996 on: March 02, 2022, 09:59:47 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 02, 2022, 08:33:53 PM
The Office of Special Counsel in Wisconsin has issued a 2nd report on the 2020 vote.

"The OSC learned that all machines in Green Bay were ESS machines and were
connected to a secret, hidden Wi-Fi access point at the Grand Hyatt hotel, which was the
location used by the City of Green Bay on the day of the 2020 Presidential election. The
OSC discovered the Wi-Fi, machines, and ballots were controlled by a single individual
who was not a government employee but an agent of a special interest group operating in
Wisconsin."

"The OSC discovered ballot tracking programs in both Georgia and Pennsylvania.
The OSC was able to locate and identify the developer of both programs in those States.
The OSC obtained the source code for the Pennsylvania application. Ultimately, that data
and source code would not prove to be helpful to discovering information about the
Wisconsin application.
However, the OSC still located the Wisconsin application and its developers. In the
course of that investigation, the OSC documented multiple misrepresentations of material
facts by WEC administrator Meagan Wolfe. For example, Ms. Wolfe told the Assembly
Committee on Campaigns and Elections both that she did not know about the CTCL grants
and that cities did not have access to statewide WisVote or BadgerBooks data. Both of
these statements are demonstrably untrue."

"The CTCL agreement facially violates the election bribery prohibition of Wis. Stat.
§ 12.11 because the participating cities and public officials received private money to
facilitate in-person or absentee voting within such a city. Any similar agreements in the
2022 and 2024 election cycle would also be prohibited election bribery."

There's more, including a determination that ballot boxes violated state law....

https://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/22/brandtjen/media/1552/osc-second-interim-report.pdf
 gt!!

Isn't this susceptible to the same "Look at who paid for the origins of The COVID report" post you made in The COVID thread?
« Last Edit: March 02, 2022, 10:01:18 PM by ThePAMan »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1997 on: March 02, 2022, 10:03:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 02, 2022, 09:59:47 PM
Isn't this susceptible to the same "Look at who paid for the origins of The COVID report" post you made in The COVID thread?
Nope.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1998 on: March 02, 2022, 10:07:17 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 02, 2022, 10:03:53 PM
Nope.

The flaw in this is that we all know hotel wifi sucks!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1999 on: March 02, 2022, 10:11:20 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 02, 2022, 10:07:17 PM
The flaw in this is that we all know hotel wifi sucks!
I hear it's not a secure network.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2000 on: March 02, 2022, 11:10:57 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 02, 2022, 08:33:53 PM
The Office of Special Counsel in Wisconsin has issued a 2nd report on the 2020 vote.

"The OSC learned that all machines in Green Bay were ESS machines and were
connected to a secret, hidden Wi-Fi access point at the Grand Hyatt hotel, which was the
location used by the City of Green Bay on the day of the 2020 Presidential election. The
OSC discovered the Wi-Fi, machines, and ballots were controlled by a single individual
who was not a government employee but an agent of a special interest group operating in
Wisconsin."

"The OSC discovered ballot tracking programs in both Georgia and Pennsylvania.
The OSC was able to locate and identify the developer of both programs in those States.
The OSC obtained the source code for the Pennsylvania application. Ultimately, that data
and source code would not prove to be helpful to discovering information about the
Wisconsin application.
However, the OSC still located the Wisconsin application and its developers. In the
course of that investigation, the OSC documented multiple misrepresentations of material
facts by WEC administrator Meagan Wolfe. For example, Ms. Wolfe told the Assembly
Committee on Campaigns and Elections both that she did not know about the CTCL grants
and that cities did not have access to statewide WisVote or BadgerBooks data. Both of
these statements are demonstrably untrue."

"The CTCL agreement facially violates the election bribery prohibition of Wis. Stat.
§ 12.11 because the participating cities and public officials received private money to
facilitate in-person or absentee voting within such a city. Any similar agreements in the
2022 and 2024 election cycle would also be prohibited election bribery."

There's more, including a determination that ballot boxes violated state law....

https://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/22/brandtjen/media/1552/osc-second-interim-report.pdf
 gt!!

AP FACT CHECK: Wisconsin Election Probe Ignores Some Facts
“A former Wisconsin Supreme Court justice examining the 2020 election in battleground Wisconsin laid out his interim findings this week and recommended that legislators should consider decertifying the state's presidential result — a move attorneys have said is illegal.”

“But many of Michael Gableman's claims have already been dismissed by courts or rejected by the state’s bipartisan election commission. Gableman, who was hired by the Assembly’s top Republican, acknowledged that he had voted for Donald Trump and had called the election stolen before he was ever appointed to look into it.”

“Here’s a look at some of the claims from his presentation to lawmakers on Tuesday and in the report:…..”
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-02/ap-fact-check-wisconsin-election-probe-ignores-some-facts

Also:
Wisconsin audit finds elections are 'safe and secure'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/wisconsin-audit-finds-elections-safe-secure-80729558

GOP-Aligned Group Finds No Evidence of Wisconsin Voter Fraud After 10-Month Investigation
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-aligned-group-finds-no-evidence-wisconsin-voter-fraud-after-10-month-investigation-1657112

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2001 on: March 02, 2022, 11:32:19 PM »
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So for those following the clown show of Wisconsin's "election audit", this thread is reporting on the hearing in real time.  It's worse than I imagined - Gableman has completely disappeared into conspiracy la-la land.

https://mobile.twitter.com/badachie/status/1498689576528973833

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2002 on: March 03, 2022, 07:00:25 AM »
Quote from: Mn on March 02, 2022, 10:03:53 PM
Nope.

It appears to be spot on after all
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« Reply #2003 on: March 03, 2022, 07:11:26 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 02, 2022, 11:10:57 PM
AP FACT CHECK: Wisconsin Election Probe Ignores Some Facts
“A former Wisconsin Supreme Court justice examining the 2020 election in battleground Wisconsin laid out his interim findings this week and recommended that legislators should consider decertifying the state's presidential result — a move attorneys have said is illegal.”

“But many of Michael Gableman's claims have already been dismissed by courts or rejected by the state’s bipartisan election commission. Gableman, who was hired by the Assembly’s top Republican, acknowledged that he had voted for Donald Trump and had called the election stolen before he was ever appointed to look into it.”

“Here’s a look at some of the claims from his presentation to lawmakers on Tuesday and in the report:…..”
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-02/ap-fact-check-wisconsin-election-probe-ignores-some-facts

Also:
Wisconsin audit finds elections are 'safe and secure'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/wisconsin-audit-finds-elections-safe-secure-80729558

GOP-Aligned Group Finds No Evidence of Wisconsin Voter Fraud After 10-Month Investigation
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-aligned-group-finds-no-evidence-wisconsin-voter-fraud-after-10-month-investigation-1657112

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From your Oct 2021 abcnews link .......
'Wisconsin audit finds elections are 'safe and secure'
"The audit reviewed a sample of 14,710 absentee ballots that were cast in 29 municipalities across Wisconsin. It found that nearly 7%, or 1,022 ballots, had partial witness signatures;

vs

From Feb 2021 USAToday .....
"From 2008 to 2020, clerks rejected an average of 0.62% of absentee ballots in November elections, according to Wisconsin Elections Commission data."
And wkow.com ...
Clerks in nearly every town, village, and city in Wisconsin processed more absentee ballot requests than ever before – nearly 2 million statewide.
The statewide absentee ballot rejection rate was exceptionally low in November – 0.2% statewide compared to 1.8% in April 2020.

7% of 2 million is 140,000.  :D

Re ballot boxes. A judge has ruled they violate state law.
The OSC, a former member of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, agrees.

Maybe I'll look for the video of the 104 year old nursing home resident who 'voted'.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2004 on: March 03, 2022, 09:43:05 AM »
Quote from: Mn on March 03, 2022, 07:11:26 AM
From your Oct 2021 abcnews link .......
'Wisconsin audit finds elections are 'safe and secure'
"The audit reviewed a sample of 14,710 absentee ballots that were cast in 29 municipalities across Wisconsin. It found that nearly 7%, or 1,022 ballots, had partial witness signatures;

vs

From Feb 2021 USAToday .....
"From 2008 to 2020, clerks rejected an average of 0.62% of absentee ballots in November elections, according to Wisconsin Elections Commission data."
And wkow.com ...
Clerks in nearly every town, village, and city in Wisconsin processed more absentee ballot requests than ever before – nearly 2 million statewide.
The statewide absentee ballot rejection rate was exceptionally low in November – 0.2% statewide compared to 1.8% in April 2020.

7% of 2 million is 140,000.  :D

Re ballot boxes. A judge has ruled they violate state law.
The OSC, a former member of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, agrees.

Maybe I'll look for the video of the 104 year old nursing home resident who 'voted'.

Why wouldn't she be able to vote (regardless of state of mind)? I am sure they let Golf vote, even though he is a Soviet Troll Farm Worker.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2005 on: March 03, 2022, 09:51:42 AM »
Quote from: Mn on March 03, 2022, 07:11:26 AM
From your Oct 2021 abcnews link .......
'Wisconsin audit finds elections are 'safe and secure'
"The audit reviewed a sample of 14,710 absentee ballots that were cast in 29 municipalities across Wisconsin. It found that nearly 7%, or 1,022 ballots, had partial witness signatures;

vs

From Feb 2021 USAToday .....
"From 2008 to 2020, clerks rejected an average of 0.62% of absentee ballots in November elections, according to Wisconsin Elections Commission data."
And wkow.com ...
Clerks in nearly every town, village, and city in Wisconsin processed more absentee ballot requests than ever before – nearly 2 million statewide.
The statewide absentee ballot rejection rate was exceptionally low in November – 0.2% statewide compared to 1.8% in April 2020.

7% of 2 million is 140,000.  :D

Re ballot boxes. A judge has ruled they violate state law.
The OSC, a former member of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, agrees.

Maybe I'll look for the video of the 104 year old nursing home resident who 'voted'.

Keep on spinning.   Here’s a rational explanation of why Trump lost Wisconsin.

"If all the Republicans voted for Trump the way they voted for the Assembly candidates, he would have won. He didn’t get 51,000 votes that other Republicans got, and that’s why he lost."
-   U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/31/ron-johnson-says-wisconsins-presidential-results-not-skewed/5670186001/
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2006 on: March 03, 2022, 11:22:08 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 03, 2022, 09:43:05 AM
Why wouldn't she be able to vote (regardless of state of mind)? I am sure they let Golf vote, even though he is a Soviet Troll Farm Worker.
The video I saw does not show her, bless her soul, with a state of mind.
She can't stay awake or feed herself and has not recognized her kids in 5 years.
They took her off of her old timer's disease meds years ago.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2007 on: March 03, 2022, 11:28:33 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 03, 2022, 09:51:42 AM
Keep on spinning.   Here’s a rational explanation of why Trump lost Wisconsin.

"If all the Republicans voted for Trump the way they voted for the Assembly candidates, he would have won. He didn’t get 51,000 votes that other Republicans got, and that’s why he lost."
-   U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/31/ron-johnson-says-wisconsins-presidential-results-not-skewed/5670186001/

From your link ...
"He said those reviewing the election should look at other issues — such as Madison events that allowed absentee voters to turn their ballots into poll workers stationed in parks; grants Wisconsin municipalities received to help run their elections from a nonprofit group funded by Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg; and the decision by cities like Milwaukee to count all absentee ballots at one location instead of all their polling places."

Some of the things that the report addresses.
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« Reply #2008 on: March 03, 2022, 11:52:56 AM »
Of course Johnson added that stuff.   Basic Republican talking points.  He had to provide himself with a little cover.  You don’t want to get on the bad side of the Orange Warlord. 

The Republican Senate leaders knew what they were doing when they hired Gableman for this hack job.  He was highly partisan on the State supreme court and hasn't changed his colors out of office. 
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« Reply #2009 on: March 03, 2022, 11:57:52 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 02, 2022, 11:10:57 PM
AP FACT CHECK: Wisconsin Election Probe Ignores Some Facts
“A former Wisconsin Supreme Court justice examining the 2020 election in battleground Wisconsin laid out his interim findings this week and recommended that legislators should consider decertifying the state's presidential result — a move attorneys have said is illegal.”

“But many of Michael Gableman's claims have already been dismissed by courts or rejected by the state’s bipartisan election commission. Gableman, who was hired by the Assembly’s top Republican, acknowledged that he had voted for Donald Trump and had called the election stolen before he was ever appointed to look into it.”

“Here’s a look at some of the claims from his presentation to lawmakers on Tuesday and in the report:…..”
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-02/ap-fact-check-wisconsin-election-probe-ignores-some-facts

Also:
Wisconsin audit finds elections are 'safe and secure'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/wisconsin-audit-finds-elections-safe-secure-80729558

GOP-Aligned Group Finds No Evidence of Wisconsin Voter Fraud After 10-Month Investigation
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-aligned-group-finds-no-evidence-wisconsin-voter-fraud-after-10-month-investigation-1657112

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From the report in your Newsweek link. The one with the headline of "no evidence of Wisconsin voter fraud ......"
"WILL’S FINDINGS ON THE 2020 ELECTION IN WISCONSIN
It is almost certain that in Wisconsin’s 2020 election the number of votes that did not comply with existing legal requirements exceeded Joe Biden’s margin of victory.
As recently confirmed by the Legislative Audit Bureau, the widespread adoption of absentee ballot drop boxes, encouraged by the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC), runs afoul of state law requirements for the collection of absentee ballots.
This widespread adoption of absentee ballot drop boxes, not provided for under Wisconsin law, was correlated with an increase of about 20,000 votes for Joe Biden, while having no significant effect on the vote for Trump.
More than 265,000 Wisconsin voters adopted the ‘indefinitely confined’ status, meaning they received an absentee ballot and were exempt from the statewide photo ID requirements.
Many of these votes were cast unlawfully. Only those voters who are indefinitely confined “because of age, physical illness, or infirmity, or is disabled for an indefinite period” qualify. Fear of contracting a disease (such as COVID) does not qualify.
The votes cast by ‘indefinitely confined’ voters raise a number of red flags. 54,259 ballots were cast by individuals who have never shown a voter ID in any election. 3,718 were cast from addresses that were on the 2019 Mover’s List. 7,747 failed their DMV check when they registered."
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