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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10035 on: June 18, 2026, 01:28:09 PM »
Which one is better? The one above or this one?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10036 on: June 18, 2026, 01:43:54 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on June 18, 2026, 12:45:27 PM
Iran wants to destroy the US. The progressives be like 'if you guys nuke us, we're going to have meetings and discussions to schedule a meeting to ask you for some talks and we'll give you some of your money back.'

This is so fucking stupid.  It doesn't matter whether a conservative, centrist or lefty sits in the White House.  If Iran tried to nuke us, we'd bomb them back to the stone age.  Their leaders know this.  And so does the rest of the world.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10037 on: June 18, 2026, 01:46:30 PM »
Tempo's Progressive Plantir Investor Guy, Ro Khanna, loves the Iran deal! We know which side he's on!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/ro-khanna-backs-trump-iran-deal-asks-why-are-we-rebuilding-iran-instead-ohio.amp
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10038 on: June 18, 2026, 02:01:10 PM »
All people with Hispanic names.sre immigrants..
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10039 on: June 18, 2026, 02:17:19 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 18, 2026, 02:01:10 PM
All people with Hispanic names.sre immigrants..

No mention of where they went to HS in the stories Tempo cited.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10040 on: June 18, 2026, 02:19:43 PM »
 
Progressive reforms:
A century of accomplishments

*The eight-hour workday and 40-hour workweek

*Worker’s compensation for on-the-job accidents

*Unemployment insurance

*Prohibitions against child labor and workplace exploitations

*The legal right of people to organize within labor unions and engage in collective bargaining for fair wages and benefits

*The constitutional right to vote, full legal equality, and the elimination of formal discrimination for women and minorities

*The graduated income and inheritance tax

*Protections against contaminated food and medicines

*Hundreds of millions of acres of protected wilderness areas, waterways, and national parks

*Antimonopoly and anticompetitive regulations of corporations

*Direct elections of U.S. senators, direct primary elections of political candidates, and the initiative and referendum process in the states

*Civil service tests to replace political patronage

*National supervision of banks and the creation of a flexible national currency

*Regulation of the securities industry

*Federal insurance of bank deposits

*Bans on speculative banking practices

*Refinancing and foreclosure protections for home and farm owners

*National infrastructure including electrification, railways, airports, bridges and roads, and the Internet

*Social Security and Medicare to aid the elderly and Medicaid and CHIP to help low-income families and children

*Minimum wage laws and income support for the working poor

*Public education, college loans and grants for students, and the GI Bill
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10041 on: June 18, 2026, 03:43:56 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 18, 2026, 02:19:43 PM

Progressive reforms:
A century of accomplishments

*The eight-hour workday and 40-hour workweek

*Worker’s compensation for on-the-job accidents

*Unemployment insurance

*Prohibitions against child labor and workplace exploitations

*The legal right of people to organize within labor unions and engage in collective bargaining for fair wages and benefits

*The constitutional right to vote, full legal equality, and the elimination of formal discrimination for women and minorities

*The graduated income and inheritance tax

*Protections against contaminated food and medicines

*Hundreds of millions of acres of protected wilderness areas, waterways, and national parks

*Antimonopoly and anticompetitive regulations of corporations

*Direct elections of U.S. senators, direct primary elections of political candidates, and the initiative and referendum process in the states

*Civil service tests to replace political patronage

*National supervision of banks and the creation of a flexible national currency

*Regulation of the securities industry

*Federal insurance of bank deposits

*Bans on speculative banking practices

*Refinancing and foreclosure protections for home and farm owners

*National infrastructure including electrification, railways, airports, bridges and roads, and the Internet

*Social Security and Medicare to aid the elderly and Medicaid and CHIP to help low-income families and children

*Minimum wage laws and income support for the working poor

*Public education, college loans and grants for students, and the GI Bill

Evil, evil stuff. Everyone here hates this.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10042 on: June 18, 2026, 06:15:57 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 18, 2026, 02:19:43 PM

Progressive reforms:
A century of accomplishments

*The eight-hour workday and 40-hour workweek

*Worker’s compensation for on-the-job accidents

*Unemployment insurance

*Prohibitions against child labor and workplace exploitations

*The legal right of people to organize within labor unions and engage in collective bargaining for fair wages and benefits

*The constitutional right to vote, full legal equality, and the elimination of formal discrimination for women and minorities

*The graduated income and inheritance tax

*Protections against contaminated food and medicines

*Hundreds of millions of acres of protected wilderness areas, waterways, and national parks

*Antimonopoly and anticompetitive regulations of corporations

*Direct elections of U.S. senators, direct primary elections of political candidates, and the initiative and referendum process in the states

*Civil service tests to replace political patronage

*National supervision of banks and the creation of a flexible national currency

*Regulation of the securities industry

*Federal insurance of bank deposits

*Bans on speculative banking practices

*Refinancing and foreclosure protections for home and farm owners

*National infrastructure including electrification, railways, airports, bridges and roads, and the Internet

*Social Security and Medicare to aid the elderly and Medicaid and CHIP to help low-income families and children

*Minimum wage laws and income support for the working poor

*Public education, college loans and grants for students, and the GI Bill
AI tells me the latest "progressive" action in your list was in Joe's Infrastructure bill at a tune of $45-65 billion for broadband. They got somebody signed up this year. Other than that, diddly squat.
Got a list more recent than 2010, when the "progressives" started giving us defund the police, urban decay, illegal immigration, open borders, soft on crime measures, democratic socialists, nazis winning Democrat primaries, etc.

Report
 Apr 14, 2010
The Progressive Tradition in American Politics
Part Two of the Progressive Tradition Series
Part two of the Progressive Tradition Series examines the politics of national progressivism from the agrarian populists to the Great Society.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10043 on: June 18, 2026, 11:33:21 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on June 18, 2026, 06:15:57 PM
AI tells me the latest "progressive" action in your list was in Joe's Infrastructure bill at a tune of $45-65 billion for broadband. They got somebody signed up this year. Other than that, diddly squat.
Got a list more recent than 2010, when the "progressives" started giving us defund the police, urban decay, illegal immigration, open borders, soft on crime measures, democratic socialists, nazis winning Democrat primaries, etc.

Report
 Apr 14, 2010
The Progressive Tradition in American Politics
Part Two of the Progressive Tradition Series
Part two of the Progressive Tradition Series examines the politics of national progressivism from the agrarian populists to the Great Society.

Exactly.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #10044 on: June 19, 2026, 12:21:26 PM »
The right wing has been chipping away away at the foundations of progressive programs for 40 years. Then Trump / Elmo /.scotus just took a hack saw and sledge hammer to vital programs and services. Progressives are struggling to hold the line.

Case loads for social workers are at impossible levels due to funding cuts.

Defund the police mean to move funding from failed and corrupt aw enforcement tactics to successful crime prevention strategies.

Democratic Socialism in the United States is a broad term that is generally a synonym for Social Democracy.

The only ones advocating open borders are Cato Libertarians.

In the past, conservatives like Ronald Reagan supported common sense guest worker programs.

American First is radical right wing nationalism, aka fascism

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