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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9795 on: May 13, 2026, 12:36:16 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 13, 2026, 12:10:26 PM
Not a massive fan of Biden but this wasn't a huge problem. Fine, Clyburne backs his buddy Joe. Whatever.

Biden running again in 2024? That's a problem.

That basically sums it up.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9796 on: May 13, 2026, 01:25:08 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2026, 08:16:50 AM
Black people in SC basically made Biden the nominee. Black people not a fan of Bernie, since he's not a Democrat, etc  Tempo hares Black people more than Chief Justice Roberts!

Sanders’ 2020 campaign faced growing challenges as the primaries shifted to states with more diverse Democratic constituencies, and many of his younger supporters did not show up to vote. 

Must give Biden credit.  Despite some political hiccups early in his career, he maintained relatively strong ties with the Black community, especially among older voters and established political leadership.
https://baystatebanner.com/2025/01/08/looking-back-on-joe-bidens-relationship-with-black-america/
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9797 on: May 13, 2026, 01:25:59 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 12, 2026, 11:05:51 PM
Tempo bought it hook line and sinker

https://x.com/michaelthehenry/status/2054055091196285323?s=46

Best response I saw;

And yet at the slightest opportunity, White leaders rush to destroy Black representation.

Weird how Black problems are Black made, but White problems are caused by everyone else.

Yes, that takes some unpacking.

"Black representation" can be whoever a majority black district elects. Usually that would be someone that understands the African American experience and interests.

Also, note what has happened after the Trump Supreme Court stayed out of political gerrymandering, but effectively banned racial gerrymandering.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9798 on: May 13, 2026, 01:49:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2026, 11:29:12 AM
Was told he was SDA.... Until reality smacked him in the face. Which usually happens, unless you are Brandon Johnson and remain oblivious.

So electing SDAs isn’t as dangerous as you make it sound. Got it.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9799 on: May 13, 2026, 01:50:35 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2026, 01:25:59 PM
Best response I saw;

And yet at the slightest opportunity, White leaders rush to destroy Black representation.

Weird how Black problems are Black made, but White problems are caused by everyone else.

Yes, that takes some unpacking.

"Black representation" can be whoever a majority black district elects. Usually that would be someone that understands the African American experience and interests.

Also, note what has happened after the Trump Supreme Court stayed out of political gerrymandering, but effectively banned racial gerrymandering.

Custard understands the black experience. Just ask him.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9800 on: May 13, 2026, 01:53:35 PM »
The fact that one state can pretty much lock up a nomination is in itself a problem. Which is why I drew up a plan in college to combat that sort of thing. Somehow I don’t think anyone will ask me for it. Certainly not the political establishment.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9801 on: May 13, 2026, 01:55:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2026, 12:35:08 PM
For better or worse you deal with the electorate where they are at. Or you can be Tempo.

The guy who thinks money doesn’t influence elections is handing out election wisdom, folks.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9802 on: May 13, 2026, 02:01:30 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on May 13, 2026, 01:49:18 PM
So electing SDAs isn’t as dangerous as you make it sound. Got it.

LOL. Except for Chicago where the guy is a complete idiot instead of someone who promises one thing and than flips.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9803 on: May 13, 2026, 02:03:12 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on May 13, 2026, 01:55:41 PM
The guy who thinks money doesn’t influence elections is handing out election wisdom, folks.

Have to have money to reach the people where they are at. Or you could just call the electorate racist/misogynist/etc. and continue to lose elections.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9804 on: May 13, 2026, 02:04:26 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on May 13, 2026, 01:53:35 PM
The fact that one state can pretty much lock up a nomination is in itself a problem. Which is why I drew up a plan in college to combat that sort of thing. Somehow I don’t think anyone will ask me for it. Certainly not the political establishment.

Since it is probably a bad plan, probably a good thing you keep it under wraps.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9805 on: May 13, 2026, 02:05:52 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on May 13, 2026, 01:25:08 PM
Sanders’ 2020 campaign faced growing challenges as the primaries shifted to states with more diverse Democratic constituencies, and many of his younger supporters did not show up to vote. 

Must give Biden credit.  Despite some political hiccups early in his career, he maintained relatively strong ties with the Black community, especially among older voters and established political leadership.
https://baystatebanner.com/2025/01/08/looking-back-on-joe-bidens-relationship-with-black-america/

Shocking that an independent running for the Democratic nomination did not appeal to actual Democrats.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9806 on: May 13, 2026, 03:00:51 PM »
Is SDA the same as DSA?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9807 on: May 13, 2026, 04:55:13 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2026, 03:00:51 PM
Is SDA the same as DSA?

They are more "socialist" and less "democratic."
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9808 on: May 13, 2026, 05:24:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2026, 02:05:52 PM
Shocking that an independent running for the Democratic nomination did not appeal to actual Democrats.

Shocking you think your average voter is so completely loyal to the party. Bernie would have won the nomination twice if the deck hadn’t been stacked.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9809 on: May 13, 2026, 05:25:19 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2026, 02:04:26 PM
Since it is probably a bad plan, probably a good thing you keep it under wraps.

It’s a very good plan. A very logical plan.
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