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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9420 on: March 30, 2026, 03:01:10 PM »
Israel is doing it for the Saudis!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9421 on: March 30, 2026, 03:09:15 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 30, 2026, 03:00:33 PM
I've conceded multiple times that the Saudis stood to benefit from this; but if you're making the case that the Saudis were the primary impetus behind this, well you're pulling a three card Monte act that MN would be envious of,; and that seems to be a case you're making, or at least implying

The primary impetus behind this is Trump. 

Again, you asked who bribed Trump. I responded factually with what has been reported. Again, you chose to stress your narrative as you have an agenda.

You asked why the Saudis have not joined the fight. The question not asked is why has Trump lashed out at NATO countries for not assisting but has NOT lashed out at the Saudis. The fact that he has not done that tells you all you need to know.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9422 on: March 30, 2026, 03:10:00 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 30, 2026, 03:01:10 PM
Israel is doing it for the Saudis!

They share common ground on this issue.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9423 on: March 30, 2026, 03:11:49 PM »
Trump is a willing participant for sure, but we aren't there if not for Israel. Any objective person would agree, or at least consider that a valid take.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9424 on: March 30, 2026, 03:15:00 PM »
Denmark hasn't enriched Trump and the Trump family, the Saudis have. Bigly. That's why he's not calling them out.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9425 on: March 30, 2026, 03:17:15 PM »
Again, I've never made the case that the Saudis aren't in on the action; but asserting they are the reason we invaded Iran is pure deflection. A Three Card Monte game.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9426 on: March 30, 2026, 03:45:01 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 30, 2026, 03:17:15 PM
Again, I've never made the case that the Saudis aren't in on the action; but asserting they are the reason we invaded Iran is pure deflection. A Three Card Monte game.

Guess you should DM The WaPo via The Twotter and ask them why they reported that in February.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9427 on: March 30, 2026, 03:45:43 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 30, 2026, 03:15:00 PM
Denmark hasn't enriched Trump and the Trump family, the Saudis have. Bigly. That's why he's not calling them out.

Finally some movement towards reality-based analysis.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9428 on: March 30, 2026, 03:47:16 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 30, 2026, 03:11:49 PM
Trump is a willing participant for sure, but we aren't there if not for Israel. Any objective person would agree, or at least consider that a valid take.

MBS might say, "Hold my beer," but I don't think they can drink (in public, at least).
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9429 on: March 30, 2026, 11:53:46 PM »
Pretty sure a big chunk of Europe and the US decided to create Israel and then vowed to protect it.

At least part of the reason Trump has made a point of calling out EU countries is because we have spent way more than our fair share defending their asses while they funded their sunshine and rainbows welfare systems with the savings (and 55% effective taxation).

We didn’t need help from them, it was a ruse that gave Trump an excuse to call them out for once again failing to rise to the occasion. They won’t do anything to protect Israel and many other nations from the existential threat that is Iran with persistent nuclear ambitions.

You think we have a supply chain issue now, just imagine what Iran could do with nukes. We were probably one more Democrat presidential term away  from them having them.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9430 on: March 30, 2026, 11:55:25 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 30, 2026, 11:53:46 PM
Pretty sure a big chunk of Europe and the US decided to create Israel and then vowed to protect it.

At least part of the reason Trump has made a point of calling out EU countries is because we have spent way more than our fair share defending their asses while they funded their sunshine and rainbows welfare systems with the savings (and 55% effective taxation).

We didn’t need help from them, it was a ruse that gave Trump an excuse to call them out for once again failing to rise to the occasion. They won’t do anything to protect Israel and many other nations from the existential threat that is Iran with persistent nuclear ambitions.

You think we have a supply chain issue now, just imagine what Iran could do with nukes. We were probably one more Democrat presidential term away  from them having them.

The nuke is the easy part. The ICBM is the hard part.
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