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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8280 on: October 04, 2025, 06:13:28 AM »

Half the people in this country didn’t agree with the laisseze faire asylum policy to begin with. 

I think the polling showed close to 70% disapproved of the 'Biden' administration policies.,

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8281 on: October 04, 2025, 09:21:01 PM »

Encourage legal immigration at a sustainable pace, give them a reasonable and clear path to citizenship, collect taxes on their income like everyone else, and depending on their income level make either government or private healthcare available to them. It’s not that difficult.

By sustainable pace you mean zero


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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8282 on: October 04, 2025, 09:22:24 PM »
I don’t really think any group actually wants to deny anyone healthcare. As a policy in this country we don’t actually deny people healthcare. Low income people have access to the kind of healthcare we see in western nations with single payer healthcare; while people who make decent money/have an employer pay for insurance and have more options. It’s a hybrid system.

The bigger argument is simply who pays for it and how. Healthcare is expensive and people are divided on how it should be administered and paid for in the US. The left wants to socialize medicine and points to other western nations as proof that it works. 

It’s not all sunshine and rainbows. The US still leads the world in medical innovation because there’s money in innovation. Socialized medicine, like most socialized industries, suffers from lack of funding, innovation, and being overrun.  That’s why people come from all over the world to get advanced treatments here.

We could have “free” universal healthcare here and “free” college like places in Europe and pay 50+% effective tax rates and everyone outside the wealthy could live in a shitty flat and not be able to afford a car. That sounds fun!

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8283 on: October 05, 2025, 02:25:12 AM »
Richest country in the history of planet earth can’t have nice things. Story at 11.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8284 on: October 05, 2025, 11:53:14 AM »
Funding for research breaks down to about 2/3 private and 1/3: public money. There are some nuances, but like we used to say; that's close enough for government work. We also said liars figure and figures lie. Or vice versa.
Oh, and the available Intel indicates It's about the same for Europe.

The main difference is that  private research is focused more on immediate practical applications.

Public research historically focuses more on "bluesky" theoretical investigation; which makes innovation and breakthroughs possible..
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8285 on: October 05, 2025, 07:16:56 PM »
Richest country in the history of planet earth can’t have nice things. Story at 11.

We have lots of nice things. You want people to pay more taxes so our society can have more “free” things like education and healthcare. I’d like working people to keep more of their money and be about to choose how to spend it on healthcare and education. 🤷🏻‍♂️

My dear aunt, who was widowed young and never remarried, had a major stroke a couple of years ago. She didn’t have much. She had to move out of her rented duplex and into a nice newer assisted living facility. Her doctor bills are all covered, the facility is paid for by her SS checks (which cover a fraction of the actual cost) and she is allowed some spending money to keep each month. It’s not like they get thrown out on the street even in this system.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8286 on: October 05, 2025, 08:16:00 PM »


That’s one kid. Now throw in the incredible rising costs of healthcare. These costs are eating people up anyway, why not just pay it in taxes, and those people in the north shore might have to suffer without their 4th luxury SUV. And hedge fund billionaires might have to sell their 3rd summer home.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8287 on: October 05, 2025, 08:17:11 PM »
I know more than a few seniors who lived in poverty or near poverty.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8288 on: October 05, 2025, 08:18:23 PM »


That’s one kid. Now throw in the incredible rising costs of healthcare. These costs are eating people up anyway, why not just pay it in taxes, and those people in the north shore might have to suffer without their 4th luxury SUV. And hedge fund billionaires might have to sell their 3rd summer home.

Lot of admin and professors making money?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8289 on: October 05, 2025, 08:24:59 PM »
Lot of admin and professors making money?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Liberals to be exact…
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8290 on: October 05, 2025, 08:26:09 PM »


That’s one kid. Now throw in the incredible rising costs of healthcare. These costs are eating people up anyway, why not just pay it in taxes, and those people in the north shore might have to suffer without their 4th luxury SUV. And hedge fund billionaires might have to sell their 3rd summer home.

Tell your progressive and liberal buddies to give them up…
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8291 on: October 05, 2025, 08:31:29 PM »
LOL
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8292 on: October 05, 2025, 08:35:49 PM »
I love the default response of “greedy liberals and lazy educators.”

"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8293 on: October 05, 2025, 08:49:58 PM »
I love the default response of “greedy liberals and lazy educators.”



Where's the money going then?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8294 on: October 05, 2025, 08:59:09 PM »
Where's the money going then?

Lots of places, but probably not greedy, lazy libs.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.